Beretta 1301 Tactical

[Clusterfrack]

Farstriker, like Dave J, I prefer the half-ghost ring. I'm back to using the OEM handguard after giving the Magpul/Aridus one a good try, and am very happy. For me, the OEM handguard has better ergos, and the M-Lok attachments to the plastic felt flimsy. It was easy to bend the plastic handguard by pulling on the WML or sling mount, and I couldn't get used to that.

[OldRunner/CSAT Neighbor]

Dave J said > "I prefer the RH mod if using an optic, and the full ghost ring if using the CROM by itself without a red dot. IMO, the half ring creates less visual clutter when you're using the red dot as your primary sight."


I can only speak to the Haught CROM w/ an AP but 100% on this from Dave > "the half ring creates less visual clutter when you're using the red dot as your primary sight"

[Not HighSpeed]

There are some on ebay and gunbroker but you will have to pay extra for them

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Thanks but, Yea....I don't need one that bad lol. Especially with all the effort I put in on notification emails lol. I'll get one in good time. Although I really did get texture on the OEM handgrip, so no rush.

[simplechamp]

Hey all, I've been reading through this thread for awhile and just registered. Picked up my first 1301 this morning from FFL.

Please forgive me if this topic has already been covered, I've browsed through quite a few pages but not all 400+!

So I purchased the 1301 Tactical LE. All the pictures I saw on seller website and even Beretta website show it with the aluminum (Nordic?) mag extension and barrel clamp. I was a little disappointed when I checked mine out this morning to find it has a polymer mag extension and barrel clamp.

Is this a recent change? Or they have been shipping like this for awhile? Is the gun still solid with the polymer mag extension or recommend switching it out with Nordic or other aluminum version? The plastic one just seems a little chincey to me.

[GearFondler]

Hey all, I've been reading through this thread for awhile and just registered. Picked up my first 1301 this morning from FFL.

Please forgive me if this topic has already been covered, I've browsed through quite a few pages but not all 400+!

So I purchased the 1301 Tactical LE. All the pictures I saw on seller website and even Beretta website show it with the aluminum (Nordic?) mag extension and barrel clamp. I was a little disappointed when I checked mine out this morning to find it has a polymer mag extension and barrel clamp.

Is this a recent change? Or they have been shipping like this for awhile? Is the gun still solid with the polymer mag extension or recommend switching it out with Nordic or other aluminum version? The plastic one just seems a little chincey to me.To my knowledge, you are the first person here to encounter a plastic mag extension... It sounds unpleasant. Can you post pics?

[zoduff]

Hey all, I've been reading through this thread for awhile and just registered. Picked up my first 1301 this morning from FFL.

Please forgive me if this topic has already been covered, I've browsed through quite a few pages but not all 400+!

So I purchased the 1301 Tactical LE. All the pictures I saw on seller website and even Beretta website show it with the aluminum (Nordic?) mag extension and barrel clamp. I was a little disappointed when I checked mine out this morning to find it has a polymer mag extension and barrel clamp.

Is this a recent change? Or they have been shipping like this for awhile? Is the gun still solid with the polymer mag extension or recommend switching it out with Nordic or other aluminum version? The plastic one just seems a little chincey to me.

It's actually pretty nice. I recently bought a 1301 tactical and my buddy liked it so much he bought an le model from arms unlimited, assume that's where you got yours. Anyway if you take off the extension you'll realize it's actually just a plastic cover and instead your mag tube goes all the way to the end of the barrel. Also we had to remove the spring retainer from his in order to fit 7 shells in the tube.

[zoduff]

Since the 509T comes with an RMR adapter I think it would work, but not sure if you'd have a cowitness with the sights or not.

My Crom is supposed to be delivered on Thursday and I have a 509t sitting here for it so I'll let people know what the co witness is like. Hoping for lower 1/3 but think there's a chance the rear will pretty much be completely blocked. If that's the case I'll just put a 507 or 508 on it.

[simplechamp]

To my knowledge, you are the first person here to encounter a plastic mag extension... It sounds unpleasant. Can you post pics?

LOL just my luck... I'll post some pics when I get home tonight.

[GJM]

Farstriker, like Dave J, I prefer the half-ghost ring. I'm back to using the OEM handguard after giving the Magpul/Aridus one a good try, and am very happy. For me, the OEM handguard has better ergos, and the M-Lok attachments to the plastic felt flimsy. It was easy to bend the plastic handguard by pulling on the WML or sling mount, and I couldn't get used to that.

I prefer the OEM handguard and butt stock. With a Nordic extension, I can mount a light and sling using the OEM handguard. The OEM configuration feels and handles better for me.

[HeavyDuty]

I prefer the OEM handguard and butt stock. With a Nordic extension, I can mount a light and sling using the OEM handguard. The OEM configuration feels and handles better for me.

I guess I can come out of the closet to say the same.

[Clusterfrack]

I prefer the OEM handguard and butt stock. With a Nordic extension, I can mount a light and sling using the OEM handguard. The OEM configuration feels and handles better for me.

I'm a big Magpul/Aridus stock fan. The shorter length of pull, and the grip work much better for me than OEM.

[simplechamp]

Here are some pics of the mag extension that came on my 1301 Tactical LE. It's a one-piece molded polymer extension and has some flutes on it. The barrel clamp is also molded polymer, it has QD sockets on both sides (no more small pic rail section like the Nordic has).

I'm trying to reserve my judgement as I haven't even shot it yet. For all I know it will be plenty sturdy and reliable. But at the same time I'm surprised and a little bummed to get this on a shotgun that is supposed to be one of the top dogs of semi-autos. I haven't heard of a polymer mag extension before. I could see getting this on a $400 whatever-brand Turkish shotgun, but not so much the Beretta. This has "cost saving measure" written all over it. Well, maybe it saved Beretta money but it didn't save me any! Have to shell out another $150 now if I want the Nordic extension.

https://i.postimg.cc/fbNp886t/20210727-180456.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/wvxPp7x9/20210727-180554.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/xCsZTnqM/20210727-180642.jpg

[GJM]

I'm a big Magpul/Aridus stock fan. The shorter length of pull, and the grip work much better for me than OEM.

I think a discussion of the OEM vs Magpul butt stock would be interesting.

[OldRunner/CSAT Neighbor]

I'm a big Magpul/Aridus stock fan. The shorter length of pull, and the grip work much better for me than OEM.

Agreed CF, even if it means I'm going against my belt/holster enabler.

[GJM]

Here are my thoughts.

I really like the Magpul stock on an 870, and have multiple 14 inch 870 shotguns with them. With the 870, there is no gas system to reduce recoil and the stock becomes a major part of reducing recoil with slugs (excluding Haught). With every shot on the 870, you end up holding the shotgun mostly with one hand while your other hand works the action. That makes the mini pistol grip on the Magpul helpful. Length of pull is also important, with shorter making it easier to work the pump.

The 1301 is gas, you have two hands on the shotgun, extreme short LOP is less important and perhaps even undesirable. Most importantly a Beretta shotgun handles like a dream, and putting the Magpul on degrades that feel for me. Every time I go between my Magpul 1301 and OEM 1301, I am reminded how much better the OEM stock makes the shotgun handle for me.

[Cory]

Here are my thoughts.

I really like the Magpul stock on an 870, and have multiple 14 inch 870 shotguns with them. With the 870, there is no gas system to reduce recoil and the stock becomes a major part of reducing recoil with slugs (excluding Haught). With every shot on the 870, you end up holding the shotgun mostly with one hand while your other hand works the action. That makes the mini pistol grip on the Magpul helpful. Length of pull is also important, with shorter making it easier to work the pump.

The 1301 is gas, you have two hands on the shotgun, extreme short LOP is less important and perhaps even undesirable. Most importantly a Beretta shotgun handles like a dream, and putting the Magpul on degrades that feel for me. Every time I go between my Magpul 1301 and OEM 1301, I am reminded how much better the OEM stock makes the shotgun handle for me.

Interesting. I have a 1301, and have the adapter but haven't made the swap to magpul yet. I'm using the OEM stock.

The shorter length of pull is something that normally comes with a slightly more squared up stance. Most of my time with a gauge is chasing turkeys, and I've always used a slightly more angled stance.

I wonder what I'll think of the magpul. I'll find out eventually.

[Farstriker]

Farstriker, like Dave J, I prefer the half-ghost ring. I'm back to using the OEM handguard after giving the Magpul/Aridus one a good try, and am very happy. For me, the OEM handguard has better ergos, and the M-Lok attachments to the plastic felt flimsy. It was easy to bend the plastic handguard by pulling on the WML or sling mount, and I couldn't get used to that.

I like the magpul but yeah don’t really need to hang a bunch of stuff off the front so more isn’t always better. Aridus stuff looks great though. I’m leaning the same way on the ghost ring, if I don’t like it I guess I’ll get a full ring.


I prefer the RH mod if using an optic, and the full ghost ring if using the CROM by itself without a red dot. IMO, the half ring creates less visual clutter when you're using the red dot as your primary sight. (FWIW, I have two 1301T's, one with a T-1 micro and the RH mod, the other has a CROM with the full ring & no optic.)


I'm torn on it as well. The Aridus forend makes sling/WML mounting easier and helps 922r compliance, but I honestly prefer the shape and texture of the OEM forend. No disrespect intended to Adam. His adapter setup is extremely clever and well made, but IMHO the Magpul Zhukov part isn't quite optimally shaped to begin with. I ended up stippling and grip taping my Zhukov forends, since I was unhappy with the lack of texture.

How’s the sight look with the t-1 turned off… still pretty bright through the tube to pick up the front sight?
I put talon wraps on mine and that helped, but im also thinking it’s a little oddly shaped for a fore end especially since im not working it like I would with a pump.


I'm a big Magpul/Aridus stock fan. The shorter length of pull, and the grip work much better for me than OEM.

That’s a big draw for me as well to the magpul stock, I like that lop adjustment.


Here are some pics of the mag extension that came on my 1301 Tactical LE. It's a one-piece molded polymer extension and has some flutes on it. The barrel clamp is also molded polymer, it has QD sockets on both sides (no more small pic rail section like the Nordic has).

I'm trying to reserve my judgement as I haven't even shot it yet. For all I know it will be plenty sturdy and reliable. But at the same time I'm surprised and a little bummed to get this on a shotgun that is supposed to be one of the top dogs of semi-autos. I haven't heard of a polymer mag extension before. I could see getting this on a $400 whatever-brand Turkish shotgun, but not so much the Beretta. This has "cost saving measure" written all over it. Well, maybe it saved Beretta money but it didn't save me any! Have to shell out another $150 now if I want the Nordic extension.

https://i.postimg.cc/fbNp886t/20210727-180456.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/wvxPp7x9/20210727-180554.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/xCsZTnqM/20210727-180642.jpg

That’s a cover, handled one today at my buddy’s shop. Comes right off, may even be better then a extension due to no transition inside the mag tube. You could possibly wrangle up just the clamp from Nordic and get the best of both worlds.

[simplechamp]

Well, I feel pretty dumb! Thanks for the info Farstriker, makes me feel better. Was going to pull it apart tonight but our 3 month old had other plans LOL.

Sorry all, promise I wasn't joining to troll against Beretta or anything. Was just really surprised to see that when all the pictures show the Nordic.

[nalesq]

I think a discussion of the OEM vs Magpul butt stock would be interesting.

I was quite happy with the OEM Beretta stock until I put an optic on the 1301. Then I wanted a tad bit more height on the comb, which prompted me to get the Magpul stock.

Besides the increase in comb height, I also find it slightly easier to hold the shotgun one-handed with the Magpul stock.


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[GJM]

I was quite happy with the OEM Beretta stock until I put an optic on the 1301. Then I wanted a tad bit more height on the comb, which prompted me to get the Magpul stock.

Besides the increase in comb height, I also find it slightly easier to hold the shotgun one-handed with the Magpul stock.


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Did you put the optic on the rail or use the Aridus mount?

[nalesq]

Did you put the optic on the rail or use the Aridus mount?

I used the Aridus mount with an Aimpoint Micro. I realized, however, that without the little bit of extra comb height, with my cheek weld, I was seeing more of the front sight assembly than desired. With the raised comb, the dot is still essentially centered (not that I’m all that worried about parallax at the distances I intend to use the 1301), but less of my sight picture is cluttered by the front sight assembly.


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[Doc_Glock]

I prefer the OEM handguard and butt stock. With a Nordic extension, I can mount a light and sling using the OEM handguard. The OEM configuration feels and handles better for me.

Magpul stock and OE handguard for me. The angle on the Magpul stock feels better to my wrist than OE.

But before messing with this stuff I should have remembered that Beretta knows a hell of a lot more about shotguns and shotgun ergos than me.

[Doc_Glock]

Most importantly a Beretta shotgun handles like a dream, and putting the Magpul on degrades that feel for me. Every time I go between my Magpul 1301 and OEM 1301, I am reminded how much better the OEM stock makes the shotgun handle for me.

Explain to me in small words what you mean by "handles like a dream'? What specific actions are involved in shotgun "handling" that are better OE?

[GJM]

Explain to me in small words what you mean by "handles like a dream'? What specific actions are involved in shotgun "handling" that are better OE?

Shooting a shotgun at moving targets is all about target focused shooting. The purpose of the shotgun’s butt stock is to allow you to look at a target, quickly mount the shotgun, and make the pellets hit that spot. As a result, manufacturers spend a lot of effort on making their shotgun stocks ergonomic.

Combat shotguns bring other considerations into play, like needing shorter lengths of pull to accommodate body armor or efficiently operate a pump. That is how we sometimes end up with pistol grip stocks that make the shotgun look like an AR. I personally despise those stocks because I don’t think they are great with heavy recoil, and the pistol grip is constantly poking me when I carry a shotgun in the field. The Benelli M4 collapsing stock, for example, is perhaps my single least favorite shotgun stock ever made.

A fun test would be to set up a plate rack at ten yards, and some USPSA targets at 25 yards. My test would be six runs on the plate rack with shot, six snap shots with slugs at 25 yards to the ,owner A zone, and a three round group on the head at 25 yards with an OEM 1301 and a Magpul stocked 1301 and see what you learn. I haven’t done this test yet but will try to, sooner than later.

[Rubicon]

Hello all, new here.

I’ve had a 1301 for a little over a year. I have a gen 1 tactical, and saw mention of some of the gen 1 comp models being retrofitted with the gen 2 parts.

Has anyone confirmed that these do or do not work?

I ordered the two parts below as saw mention back a hundred or so pages that it may work and someone ordered the parts to try it. I didn’t see any post confirming one way or another.

https://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi/prod/c5g371

https://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi/prod/c5h273

If no one tried yet, I shall report back when I get the parts.

Love the shotgun, been on waitlist for quite some time for the aridus handguard and crom. Probably going to use a Mesa stock instead of magpul but unsure yet.





Gen 2 parts listed above DO in fact fit the Gen 1 tactical. No issues with function.


Anyone considering the mod above, it worked on my Gen 1 1301 tactical.

[Doc_Glock]

Shooting a shotgun at moving targets is all about target focused shooting. The purpose of the shotgun’s butt stock is to allow you to look at a target, quickly mount the shotgun, and make the pellets hit that spot. As a result, manufacturers spend a lot of effort on making their shotgun stocks ergonomic.

Combat shotguns bring other considerations into play, like needing shorter lengths of pull to accommodate body armor or efficiently operate a pump. That is how we sometimes end up with pistol grip stocks that make the shotgun look like an AR. I personally despise those stocks because I don’t think they are great with heavy recoil, and the pistol grip is constantly poking me when I carry a shotgun in the field. The Benelli M4 collapsing stock, for example, is perhaps my single least favorite shotgun stock ever made.

A fun test would be to set up a plate rack at ten yards, and some USPSA targets at 25 yards. My test would be six runs on the plate rack with shot, six snap shots with slugs at 25 yards to the ,owner A zone, and a three round group on the head at 25 yards with an OEM 1301 and a Magpul stocked 1301 and see what you learn. I haven’t done this test yet but will try to, sooner than later.

Thank you that is very helpful for putting things in context. And like I said before I am pretty sure Beretta has infinitely more experience building an ergonomic shotgun than me.

I have two pretty much identical 1301Ts and that test would be pretty easy to set up if I convert one back to full OE.

[Farstriker]

Has anyone tried to mount a rear sight from a m4 on the beretta? Looks like it’s the same form factor just don’t know if the sizing and hole spacing is the same.

[zoduff]

Holosun 509t on aridus crom doesn't work. Completely blocks rear sight

[zoduff]

Thank you that is very helpful for putting things in context. And like I said before I am pretty sure Beretta has infinitely more experience building an ergonomic shotgun than me.

I have two pretty much identical 1301Ts and that test would be pretty easy to set up if I convert one back to full OE.
Pistol grip stocks are just as useful on tactical shotguns as they are on AR15s. We're not shooting sporting clays with our 1301t... There's a bunch of Fudds in this thread

[HeavyDuty]

Pistol grip stocks are just as useful on tactical shotguns as they are on AR15s. We're not shooting sporting clays with our 1301t... There's a bunch of Fudds in this thread

Aren’t you cute! Let me get my popcorn…

[OldRunner/CSAT Neighbor]

Aren’t you cute! Let me get my popcorn…

No doubt HD, this could be entertaining.

[GJM]

Aren’t you cute! Let me get my popcorn…

If the point of his post was to get noticed, it succeeded. Hopefully he elaborates and it stimulates good discussion. Conversely, if it starts to feel like a recent revolver thread, let’s cut it off, as the 1301 is a legendary PF thread full of great information, that we don’t want derailed or degraded.

[Coolcraigster26]

Does anyone know if Aridus is still releasing another batch of handguards this week or did I miss out again? Maybe today? I dont have Facebook or any other social media so I dont know if they have posted anything about it again and last go around I didn't even get the "back in stock" email.

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[Farstriker]

Does anyone know if Aridus is still releasing another batch of handguards this week or did I miss out again? Maybe today? I dont have Facebook or any other social media so I dont know if they have posted anything about it again and last go around I didn't even get the "back in stock" email.

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I feel ya, I’ve been on The email notifications for a quick minute. I’m waiting on a stock adapter and not willing to pay the $170+ on eBay. If I had a spare I wouldn’t screw someone with that pricing so I’m not going to support it either. Free market sure, I’d rather support the manufacturer or retailer at that point.

[Coolcraigster26]

I feel ya, I’ve been on The email notifications for a quick minute. I’m waiting on a stock adapter and not willing to pay the $170+ on eBay. If I had a spare I wouldn’t screw someone with that pricing so I’m not going to support it either. Free market sure, I’d rather support the manufacturer or retailer at that point.Yeah it's frustrating. I wish they would just let you place a backorder so you can get a place in line and stop having to fight to be one of the first ones when they get released. Then they can just fill the orders as they go.

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[Coolcraigster26]

Yeah it's frustrating. I wish they would just let you place a backorder so you can get a place in line and stop having to fight to be one of the first ones when they get released. Then they can just fill the orders as they go.

Sent from my SM-G960U1 using TapatalkI know you don't want overpay but there are stock adapters on gunbroker for $135... just FYI. Best price I've seen other than directly from Aridus

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[rob_s]

I prefer the OEM handguard and butt stock. With a Nordic extension, I can mount a light and sling using the OEM handguard. The OEM configuration feels and handles better for me.

That's reassuring. I think we are built somewhat alike. I don't have my 1301 yet but I was dreading another fiddle-fart black hole of unobtanium parts...

[Flyboytim]

The new GG&G QD mount for the Beretta 1301, a nice piece of kit. They also make them for other popular shotguns. Although rounded, if you rest your thumb on it during shooting, it will hurt. 😳 Swapped around to the other side, it faces forward instead of to the rear, so it would be less of an issue. It’s thick enough to not allow the mag cap or extension to fully seat, so you must load the magazine to capacity and check that the rounds will feed. The Nordic extension is quite forgiving in that regard, so I had no issues.

I’m removing it for staging, but may use it for outside use including training sessions. Review complete:

[Flyboytim]

I also bought these. I don’t recommend…

[Farstriker]

I also bought these. I don’t recommend…

Chewed bubblegum? 🤣

[Farstriker]

Back in stock

https://gunprime.com/products/beretta-1301-tactical-12-ga-semi-auto-18-barrel-j131t18c

[Flyboytim]

Chewed bubblegum? 🤣
Probably would work better…. 😜

[HeavyDuty]

I also bought these. I don’t recommend…

Are those the Nordic ones? Mine could still use a little more trimming, but they aren’t like that:

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[Farstriker]

Probably would work better…. 😜

All joking aside do these clamps move around that much on the barrel and extension on the 1301 or are you just trying to save it from showing any wear? I haven’t seen an issue on my jm pro 930 and it’s seen north of 2k rounds and been broken down and cleaned a few times.

[GearFondler]

All joking aside do these clamps move around that much on the barrel and extension on the 1301 or are you just trying to save it from showing any wear? I haven’t seen an issue on my jm pro 930 and it’s seen north of 2k rounds and been broken down and cleaned a few times.The clamp won't move enough to notice it visually but it will quickly and definitely eat up the finish on both the barrel and the extension. If that doesn't bother you then don't worry about it.

[Flyboytim]

All joking aside do these clamps move around that much on the barrel and extension on the 1301 or are you just trying to save it from showing any wear? I haven’t seen an issue on my jm pro 930 and it’s seen north of 2k rounds and been broken down and cleaned a few times.

I was trying to avoid wear, which I already have anyway, mainly from installation and removal. If you have no wear issues, just leave them. If you did, I’d just recommend using duct tape and trimming it around the clamps, sticky side toward the clamp of course. I added masking tape when I first got the clamps, but it didn’t help much.

[Flyboytim]

Are those the Nordic ones? Mine could still use a little more trimming, but they aren’t like that:

75006

They are the Nordic gaskets. Here’s a picture from underneath and it looks more like your picture. The blue color is some blue masking tape I put on when I first got them. Didn’t help much:

[RancidSumo]

I bought the gasket too and trimmed it to fit. Huge waste of time. It makes it such a PITA to deal with. Currently I’m just leaving the clamp off but will probably throw away the gasket and put it back on eventually.

[Coolcraigster26]

I bought the gasket too and trimmed it to fit. Huge waste of time. It makes it such a PITA to deal with. Currently I’m just leaving the clamp off but will probably throw away the gasket and put it back on eventually.Well damn. I just ordered some of those gaskets...

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[Flyboytim]

Well damn. I just ordered some of those gaskets...

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I’ve been home recovering from a full hip replacement. I have the time, inclination, and money to try a few things on my current project gun, my Beretta 1301 Tac. I posted this with reticence since I’m not proud of the purchase, but I’ll take one for the team. Hopefully it will keep someone from making a similar error.

[HeavyDuty]

I’m ok with the gaskets after minor trimming. The only reason I’m using the clamp is to provide a light mount, if I find a different solution I like it will probably come off.

[OlongJohnson]

I'm thinking some chunks of hockey or gaffer tape stuck to the rings might be a better option if it doesn't slip under recoil. Thinner so it doesn't change the effective ID of the clamp as much and not going to squeeze out due to textile reinforcement.

[Coolcraigster26]

I’m ok with the gaskets after minor trimming. The only reason I’m using the clamp is to provide a light mount, if I find a different solution I like it will probably come off.You could mount the light on Aridus handguard. That would let you eliminate the clamp.

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[Coyote41]

Pistol grip stocks are just as useful on tactical shotguns as they are on AR15s. We're not shooting sporting clays with our 1301t... There's a bunch of Fudds in this thread

While I don’t think a traditional stock makes one a fudd, this is something I have pondered as well. I’d love it if someone with exoerience could explain why a pistol grip stock (not pistol grip only) is bad on a shotgun.


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[Ed L]

I prefer the OEM handguard and butt stock. With a Nordic extension, I can mount a light and sling using the OEM handguard. The OEM configuration feels and handles better for me.


That's reassuring. I think we are built somewhat alike. I don't have my 1301 yet but I was dreading another fiddle-fart black hole of unobtanium parts...

I completely agree with GJM about preferring the OEM handguard. And I agree with the pain-in-the-assness of trying to obtain parts.

I prefer the Magpul stock because of the wider and thicker recoil pad and because it allows you to make the gun more compact. I much prefer the pistol grip of the Magpul stock for the way that it makes the gun feel and handle over that of the standard stock. However, I shot the gun before I had the Magpul stock installed and it was completely usable in that configuration.

Below is a quick picture I snapped of my 1301 with the Magpul stock installed and the OEM stock below the gun for comparison. The magpul stock in the picture has all of the spacers removed for comparison of how it can shorten the gun, but I run the gun with a single spacer installed in the Magpul stock. Once I imported the picture to my computer for editing and posting, I realized that the gun wasn't straight but decided to just use the photo for expediency sake.

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My gun came with the factory +2 magazine extension which I greatly prefer for a defensive shotgun. It does not increase the length of the gun or do anything notable to its weight or balance characteristics, and brings me up from a gun with a 5 round magazine to one with a 7 round magazine. Since we are talking about a gun that has a magazine capacity of only 5 rounds, I would rather have an additional round or two. Having said that, a Beretta 1301 with a 5 round magazine is certainly usable, but if I bought one that had the 5 round capacity I would try to get the Nordic 2 round magazine extension kit that does not exceed the length of the length of the barrel.

[DDTSGM]

While I don’t think a traditional stock makes one a fudd, this is something I have pondered as well. I’d love it if someone with experience could explain why a pistol grip stock (not pistol grip only) is bad on a shotgun.

Not 'bad' just maybe not all around as effective is some folk's minds.

One of the first reasons that I would mention is safety manipulation for the Mossberg, or any other shotgun with a topside receiver safety.

Another reason is the prevalence of folks who use shotguns for both SD and sporting use. Many folks do fine with the traditional stock in both roles. Rules of clay games pretty much preclude tactical stocks. In my personal experience, I'm quicker from the kinda international ready with a conventional stock than a tactical stock, mounted low ready, not much different; walking the field mounted ready (think Rhodesian Ready) conventional stock.

For pump action shotguns, push - pull with a conventional stock is more intuitive. Both of the wrists and forearms kind of doing the same thing, and in alignment while doing so. With the pistol grip stock, you aren't aligned as well, and the vertical pull from the support hand differs from the push with the strong hand.

I'm left-handed, and I'm bone-on-bone in the left wrist from an accident. After I recovered and was able to work the range again (I also broke the bottom end) I began teaching with a tactical stock 870, as soon as I was able, I ditched the tactical stock and went to a conventional stock, even though it was not nearly as comfortable to use. For me the manipulations were kind of impeded by the tactical stock's pistol grip. I recently bought a Magpul SGA, and I think it will hit the sweet spot for me, at least.

Those are just my personal observations, other folks may have different experience.

[Greg Bell]

I too prefer the factory furniture. If you guys are running a light on the nordic extension rail how are you activating it? Are you attaching a pressure pad somewhere?

I was thinking a Streamlight Protac with a pressure pad threaded through the stock and hack a hole in the left side and mount the pad there. That would be a pretty good setup.


Is there any chance or word about Streamlight or Surefire coming out with an integrated light? These guns seem fairly popular.

[Farstriker]

I too prefer the factory furniture. If you guys are running a light on the nordic extension rail how are you activating it? Are you attaching a pressure pad somewhere?

I was thinking a Streamlight Protac with a pressure pad threaded through the stock and hack a hole in the left side and mount the pad there. That would be a pretty good setup.


Is there any chance or word about Streamlight or Surefire coming out with an integrated light? These guns seem fairly popular.

If your not afraid to rattle can an AR then some 3m body tape should be no problem to stick a pressure pad on your stock either.. just saying.

Kinda starts getting into tools vs shiny toy philosophy when it comes to what works works.

[Standard]

I ditched the clamp on my Nordic ext and have been using the GGG sling/picatinny mount on the left side. That lets me eliminate the pressure pad and activate the light with my thumb, which I prefer for simplicity's sake.
I'm also still using the factory furniture. The Aridus/Magpul stuff looks nice, but I don't think the gain in performance is worth the money for me personally.

[Flyboytim]

I too prefer the factory furniture. If you guys are running a light on the nordic extension rail how are you activating it? Are you attaching a pressure pad somewhere?

I was thinking a Streamlight Protac with a pressure pad threaded through the stock and hack a hole in the left side and mount the pad there. That would be a pretty good setup.


Is there any chance or word about Streamlight or Surefire coming out with an integrated light? These guns seem fairly popular.

I posted about my choice a few weeks back, the Surefire Scout Pro Mini. I dislike pressure switches and have long enough arms to allow for the use of the standard switch, even with the light mounted even with the muzzle. This light is 500 lumens, uses the Nordic Picatinny rail on their barrel/mag clamp, and has passed firing tests admirably. Also, I like how it snugs up to the barrel. Hope this helps.

[Greg Bell]

I posted about my choice a few weeks back, the Surefire Scout Pro Mini. I dislike pressure switches and have long enough arms to allow for the use of the standard switch, even with the light mounted even with the muzzle. This light is 500 lumens, uses the Nordic Picatinny rail on their barrel/mag clamp, and has passed firing tests admirably. Also, I like how it snugs up to the barrel. Hope this helps.


That's a killer setup. What are you doing with the sling?

[Flyboytim]

That's a killer setup. What are you doing with the sling?

Thanks. It took the release of the Pro Mini to make it all happen.
There are 3 options for a forward sling mount with the stock forend. One is to put the QD mount that comes with the Nordic kit on the right side of the gun. For most right handed shooters, this makes the gun twist to the outside when carrying it on the sling and is not good. Left handers have the light on the wrong side too.
Second option is the one I picked. It is to take off the light when you want to run the sling and put the Nordic QD in place of the Picatinny. I don’t stage the gun with a sling at home, nor do I use a light when I use a sling, so this works for me.
Third option is to use a GG&G (or similar) QD mount on the left side as pictured. If I need this setup for some future unknown reason, I have it available. I should add that the pictured mount works with the light activation for me, with or without the sling attached to the mount.

[Coolcraigster26]

Aridus handguards are in stock!!! Hurry up

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[Triggs75]

Aridus handguards are in stock!!! Hurry up

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I got the email notification this morning as well. Ordered!! Thank you

Chad

[Coolcraigster26]

I got the email notification this morning as well. Ordered!! Thank you

ChadYeah I just wanted to notify anyone on this thread because my brother also signed up for the email notification but did not receive an email this morning. Kinda weird. Glad you got one. Im sure the sharks will move in soon and buy a bunch to sell on eBay for $400. That really pisses me off!!!!

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[Flyboytim]

That's a killer setup. What are you doing with the sling?

Oooops! I forgot a 4th option. You can attach the sling to the mag tube with just the forward loop of the sling. No metal attachments to clang around too.

[ssb]

Yeah I just wanted to notify anyone on this thread because my brother also signed up for the email notification but did not receive an email this morning. Kinda weird. Glad you got one. Im sure the sharks will move in soon and buy a bunch to sell on eBay for $400. That really pisses me off!!!!

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Ordered. Thank you!

[Coolcraigster26]

I see alot of people talk about 922r compliant. Alot say they don't worry about it. I dont really know much about it. So this is my current Beretta 1301T.

Aridus stock adapter with Magpul SGA
Nordic +2 extension
Aridus handguard ordered this morning

Also in stalled Aridus RMR CROM and Aridus Q-DC but don't think these parts have anything to do with 922r.

Will this be 922r compliant?
Do I need to replace the factory follower that works absolutely fine?

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[OlongJohnson]

I am not a lawyer, but here's most of what I know about that. Others have different opinions, apparently.

https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?10177-Beretta-1301-Tactical/page230&p=709490#post709490

[Flyboytim]

I am not a lawyer, but here's most of what I know about that. Others have different opinions, apparently.

https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?10177-Beretta-1301-Tactical/page230&p=709490#post709490

BTW, this information has helped me immensely to understand this confusing law. I agree with this opinion too, obviously. On my 1301 T Gen 2, I went the only way I can see to go to reach compliance, the Briley Match Trigger. Is this trigger group an advantage over the one on the gun from Beretta? You can feel and measure the difference, but it’s not enough to do on its own. The Beretta trigger is nice. My Briley was more consistent in weight measured by my digital trigger scale, and slightly better all around.

The issue of compliance crops up when you add the magazine extension and move the gun from one of 5 round maximum “sporting purposes” to one of more than 5 rounds total. The way I read the regulations, it’s exactly the same as if you lopped off the end of the barrel and now had a Short Barrel Shotgun. Will you be stopped at the range by an overzealous ATF officer? Doubtful. I see the issue if you have this gun as one of your home/self defense weapons AND simultaneously the bad luck of needing it to save your life in a shooting. Even then, it would take an overzealous District Attorney with a low case prosecution record and high ambitions, who also noticed the weapon you used was illegal under federal firearms regulations, to be an issue. At that point, you would be wishing you had bought all the required and correct parts to “Americanize” the gun.

Similar to registering your SBS with the ATF, the law allows for you to reconfigure the gun with American parts in order to comply with the law against importing “combat style” shotguns and rifles. It costs more than a $200 tax stamp too, oddly enough. 😳 But at least there’s an out. How Langdon and others, including how Beretta imports the LE version and sells it to non-LE customers, stay within the law is a mystery to me, but I’m happy they do.

[OlongJohnson]

I look at it as the Briley trigger costs less than an hour of a good lawyer's time.

[GyroF-16]

Speaking of Langdon Tactical…
I’ll just leave this here.
https://www.langdontactical.com/ltt-1301-shotgun/

Showing in stock.

[Coolcraigster26]

What do you gain by buying the LTT-1301 vs buying a stock 1301 and adding parts yourself? Don't you end up with the same thing?

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[RancidSumo]

What do you gain by buying the LTT-1301 vs buying a stock 1301 and adding parts yourself? Don't you end up with the same thing?

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Same thing, less work, same money, a lot less headache.

FWIW on the 922r compliance, I have a LTT gun but I plan to add the Briley trigger soon. This is a HD gun for me and I don't want any questions on whether it is legal if I ever have to use it. I stopped by their shop the other day and it sounded like it would be a relatively quick turnaround.

[Coolcraigster26]

Same thing, less work, same money, a lot less headache.

FWIW on the 922r compliance, I have a LTT gun but I plan to add the Briley trigger soon. This is a HD gun for me and I don't want any questions on whether it is legal if I ever have to use it. I stopped by their shop the other day and it sounded like it would be a relatively quick turnaround.So Langdon says the LTT-1301 is "922r compliant".... and stated they had paperwork from the ATF saying that its 922r compliant. Soooo....???

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[RancidSumo]

So Langdon says the LTT-1301 is "922r compliant".... and stated they had paperwork from the ATF saying that its 922r compliant. Soooo....???

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Check out the post OlongJohnson linked and the discussion in that thread.

[Coolcraigster26]

Check out the post OlongJohnson linked and the discussion in that thread.Yeah gonna try to read it this evening. Looks like alot. Lol

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[23JAZ]

I tried the Aridus side saddle on a buddy’s gun and as a lefty I didn’t like it at all. It interfered with my trigger finger. I ended up modifying a six shot Velcro backed card I had laying around. Any other lefties have this issue?
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[OldRunner/CSAT Neighbor]

I tried the Aridus side saddle on a buddy’s gun and as a lefty I didn’t like it at all. It interfered with my trigger finger. I ended up modifying a six shot Velcro backed card I had laying around. Any other lefties have this issue?
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Discovered it back in 2016ish when I added the QDC. I adapted by placing my aft 2 (slug) rds. brass up, crimped end flush w/ the bottom of the QDC enclosure so plenty of room for my trigger finger.

[Triggs75]

I tried the Aridus side saddle on a buddy’s gun and as a lefty I didn’t like it at all. It interfered with my trigger finger. I ended up modifying a six shot Velcro backed card I had laying around. Any other lefties have this issue?
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Yup same here. Wish I knew before I bought one. Now I have a new one sitting in my drawer. Will sell at what it cost me just have not gotten around to putting it up for sale yet.

I went with a 5 round Velcro from frown coat tactical

Nice looking stick by the way. Can’t wait to get my handguard delivered to put mine together

Chad

[GJM]

We had the 1301 out with us yesterday on a ridge hike here in AK. I got my wife to carry the shotty and the pack!

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[Clusterfrack]

...I got my wife to carry the shotty and the pack!


That is great. I have not been able to load mine up with that much gear.

[Coolcraigster26]

Which domed follower are you guys using?
I see a few companies make them.

Freedom fighters
GG&G (stainless)
Carrier comp

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[trajiiic]

Which domed follower are you guys using?
I see a few companies make them.

Freedom fighters
GG&G (stainless)
Carrier comp

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GG&G for me. No real reason other than it's American and red. No issues with stock tube and spring with any load thus far.

[Coolcraigster26]

GG&G for me. No real reason other than it's American and red. No issues with stock tube and spring with any load thus far.Damn... thats the most expensive one.

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[Standard]

All of this 922r nonsense makes me just want to stick with the stock tube and no extension. I guess I'm more afraid of an overzealous DA than needing 8 vs 6 rounds.

[NoLock]

Would a vang comp follower work?

[Coolcraigster26]

Anyone know about how many posts back the follower discussion was?

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[Farstriker]

Which domed follower are you guys using?
I see a few companies make them.

Freedom fighters
GG&G (stainless)
Carrier comp

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Check out phase 5 green blue or red and worked well in three of my guns.

https://phase5wsi.com/low-drag-high-visibility-12-gauge-shotgun-follower-12gsf.html

[Clusterfrack]

GG&G for me. No real reason other than it's American and red. No issues with stock tube and spring with any load thus far.

I have that one, but was unable to load 7 shells with the spring length I was using for the OEM follower. The GGG follower is sitting in a drawer waiting for me to have time to trim the spring.

[Standard]

Since buying the GGG sling/light mount, I removed the front clamp and rail. Decided to go a little further and try out a back-to-basics setup that puts my mind at ease re:922(r). I actually like it a lot. I'm going to use it like this for a bit and see how it goes. Ghost loaded, I have 7 rounds in the gun, which I feel pretty comfortable with.
https://i.imgur.com/4FKna1Kl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/7vAHQ4Pl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Akh699Sl.jpg

[Doc_Glock]

Since buying the GGG sling/light mount, I removed the front clamp and rail. Decided to go a little further and try out a back-to-basics setup that puts my mind at ease re:922(r). I actually like it a lot. I'm going to use it like this for a bit and see how it goes. Ghost loaded, I have 7 rounds in the gun, which I feel pretty comfortable with.
https://i.imgur.com/4FKna1Kl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/7vAHQ4Pl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Akh699Sl.jpg

Did you get six rounds in the OE mag tube? If so how?

[Standard]

Did you get six rounds in the OE mag tube? If so how?

No, 5 in the tube, 1 on the lifter, 1 in the chamber.

[GearFondler]

Did you get six rounds in the OE mag tube? If so how?He's talking about a full Ghost Load... 5 in the tube, 1 on the lifter, 1 in the chamber. Not something any SME would recommend but functionally it works, it's just seen as a safety issue leaving a round chambered.

[Standard]

He's talking about a full Ghost Load... 5 in the tube, 1 on the lifter, 1 in the chamber. Not something any SME would recommend but functionally it works, it's just seen as a safety issue leaving a round chambered.

Correct. I don't typically leave a round chambered, just staying the maximum capacity of the gun in this configuration. Obviously with the extension I'd have +2

[trajiiic]

Damn... thats the most expensive one.

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I was already getting the GG&G mounts so I figured I'd pick it up to test since nobody else on this forum seemed to have had one at the time. I also like GG&G as a company. The other followers mostly work fine from my understanding so I wouldn't worry about which one you have to get, because they all work as intended.

[trajiiic]

I have that one, but was unable to load 7 shells with the spring length I was using for the OEM follower. The GGG follower is sitting in a drawer waiting for me to have time to trim the spring.

Interesting.

The stock follower and GG&G would load 5 in the stock tube with stock spring will all shells tested except for the Federal FC with the spring retaining cap in place. Once the cap was removed I was able to get 5 Federal FC in the tube with both followers.

My current config is stock spring, stock tube, spring retaining cap removed, GG&G follower, Comp pro style lifter. 5 Federal FC 8 Pellet in the tube, 1 ghost loaded, OSEOG velcro 5 round shingle on receiver, OSEOG velcro 5 round shingle on the Beretta butt stock. 5+1 with 10 attached to the gun.

[Farstriker]

Interesting.

The stock follower and GG&G would load 5 in the stock tube with stock spring will all shells tested except for the Federal FC with the spring retaining cap in place. Once the cap was removed I was able to get 5 Federal FC in the tube with both followers.

My current config is stock spring, stock tube, spring retaining cap removed, GG&G follower, Comp pro style lifter. 5 Federal FC 8 Pellet in the tube, 1 ghost loaded, OSEOG velcro 5 round shingle on receiver, OSEOG velcro 5 round shingle on the Beretta butt stock. 5+1 with 10 attached to the gun.

Where were you able to find a comp pro style lifter?… been looking high and low and haven’t seen any.
Any kind of issues with the gg&g follower in drills? Binding in particular.

[Quasimojo45]

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Only waiting on the stock adaptor piece of the scavenger hunt now.

Just fired another 25 slugs today, working the RDS. I can't remember the last time I enjoyed a firearm as much as this one.

[Coolcraigster26]

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Only waiting on the stock adaptor piece of the scavenger hunt now.

Just fired another 25 slugs today, working the RDS. I can't remember the last time I enjoyed a firearm as much as this one.Is that a +1 extension on mag tube? Looks longer than stock but shorter than +2. I want to see one of these marine finish 1301's look like fixed up like an LTT1301.

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[Coolcraigster26]

Is that a +1 extension on mag tube? Looks longer than stock but shorter than +2. I want to see one of these marine finish 1301's look like fixed up like an LTT1301.

Sent from my SM-G960U1 using TapatalkNevermind. I see now its a light. Sorry... must have had a brain fart. I really like the silver and black contrast. Looks sweet.

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[Not HighSpeed]

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Only waiting on the stock adaptor piece of the scavenger hunt now.

Just fired another 25 slugs today, working the RDS. I can't remember the last time I enjoyed a firearm as much as this one.


Also, is that a 507k2 on there or a 507c? Something else entirely?

Any issues with it being "too tall" on the rail? How is your sight picture and what kind of co-witness are you finding works with it?

[Coolcraigster26]

Got my handguard this morning. Just missing surefire light. Cant decide if I'm going to install barrel clamp or not. Aesthetically I like the barrel clamp but I dont wanna ruin the finish on my barrel. Also when I install the clamp the gap between the barrel and extension is larger than the clamp so it pulls the barrel and extension closer to each other. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210806/2e677ec4e27df6f37366b069fa493695.jpg

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[Rubicon]

Got my Aridus handguard. Love it. Really didn’t like the feel nor look of the factory handguard.

Definitely some flex to it in the rear half of the handguard like others said. Doesn’t bother me though.

With the Gen 2 latch assembly in my Gen 1 and the Aridus handguard, Surefire scout light and Esstac shell holders I’m really digging this shotgun.

Interestingly enough, the front mlok slot with the scout light charges the front sight when I activate the light. (Using The new surefire scout light with that mlok included mount).

Wish the Nordic gaskets were out sooner as my barrel has no finish left under the clamp, so it’s just staying on.

Now to wait for a CROM…. All coming together.

[Quasimojo45]

Nevermind. I see now its a light. Sorry... must have had a brain fart. I really like the silver and black contrast. Looks sweet.

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Actually both, a +1 extension and a TLR-7 light on a GG&G pic/sling mount.

[Quasimojo45]

Also, is that a 507k2 on there or a 507c? Something else entirely?

Any issues with it being "too tall" on the rail? How is your sight picture and what kind of co-witness are you finding works with it?

507C on the CROM and I love it, does Co-Witness with sights but honestly my eyes have trouble picking up the rear sight these days. The Holosun cures my eyesight problem beautifully. :cool:

[Coolcraigster26]

Got my Aridus handguard. Love it. Really didn’t like the feel nor look of the factory handguard.

Definitely some flex to it in the rear half of the handguard like others said. Doesn’t bother me though.

With the Gen 2 latch assembly in my Gen 1 and the Aridus handguard, Surefire scout light and Esstac shell holders I’m really digging this shotgun.

Interestingly enough, the front mlok slot with the scout light charges the front sight when I activate the light. (Using The new surefire scout light with that mlok included mount).

Wish the Nordic gaskets were out sooner as my barrel has no finish left under the clamp, so it’s just staying on.

Now to wait for a CROM…. All coming together.Are you using surefire pro series? Thats what I've been thinking about going with. Can you post pic of your setup with this light?

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[Rubicon]

Are you using surefire pro series? Thats what I've been thinking about going with. Can you post pic of your setup with this light?

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Certainly.

Sorry for the poor photo. terrible lighting inside my house.

I no longer have the packaging so I’m not entirely sure what model it is. I believe it’s a pro, but it’s the current 1000 lumen scout light. The bulb is a ke2-b and it just says Surefire scout light and Surefire’s website on the push button, no specific model info like my x300. (Burns on housing are from a Surefire Warcomp from a different rifle)

The shell carrier is upside down as well, oops. Also it’s not a esstac it’s an SOE one, mistakingly said it was esstac in earlier post.

Please excuse the abomination of a rear sling mount. The factory mount does not work for me and tips the shotgun upside down. Will be switching to a mesa or magpul stock in future but this is working for me for now.

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ETA:
https://www.surefire.com/products/illumination/weapon-lights/scout-light-pro/

That’s the light I have. Comes with the 2 mounts, lower profile and can be canted left or right which I really like. Fits nicely in between the rail sections of a quad rail. Haven’t had any issues with screw backing out after a few thousand rounds of 5.56 if loktited. Will see how I like it long term on the 1301. This might be its new home.

Now I need another light…

[GearFondler]

Also when I install the clamp the gap between the barrel and extension is larger than the clamp so it pulls the barrel and extension closer to each other.

Read the installation instructions carefully and you will see that issue is addressed. You have to leave the tube a few turns loose instead of tightening it all the way into the magazine nut... That leaves a little wiggle and allows the clamp to fit properly. And yeah, that solution is fucking stupid but it's what they did instead of just making a better fitting clamp.

[Coolcraigster26]

Read the installation instructions carefully and you will see that issue is addressed. You have to leave the tube a few turns loose instead of tightening it all the way into the magazine nut... That leaves a little wiggle and allows the clamp to fit properly. And yeah, that solution is fucking stupid but it's what they did instead of just making a better fitting clamp.I tried this. It didn't give enough movement. It still pulled down on the barrel quit a bit

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[Coolcraigster26]

Certainly.

Sorry for the poor photo. terrible lighting inside my house.

I no longer have the packaging so I’m not entirely sure what model it is. I believe it’s a pro, but it’s the current 1000 lumen scout light. The bulb is a ke2-b and it just says Surefire scout light and Surefire’s website on the push button, no specific model info like my x300. (Burns on housing are from a Surefire Warcomp from a different rifle)

The shell carrier is upside down as well, oops. Also it’s not a esstac it’s an SOE one, mistakingly said it was esstac in earlier post.

Please excuse the abomination of a rear sling mount. The factory mount does not work for me and tips the shotgun upside down. Will be switching to a mesa or magpul stock in future but this is working for me for now.

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ETA:
https://www.surefire.com/products/illumination/weapon-lights/scout-light-pro/

That’s the light I have. Comes with the 2 mounts, lower profile and can be canted left or right which I really like. Fits nicely in between the rail sections of a quad rail. Haven’t had any issues with screw backing out after a few thousand rounds of 5.56 if loktited. Will see how I like it long term on the 1301. This might be its new home.

Now I need another light…Awesome. Thanks for pic. Looks really good. Im probably gonna go with the pro after seeing yours.

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[Rubicon]

Awesome. Thanks for pic. Looks really good. Im probably gonna go with the pro after seeing yours.

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I’d definitely recommend it, I like that I don’t feel the need for a pressure switch with this light either. The ability to rotate it left or right makes it very workable and fairly natural for my thumb to push the button.

Not sure on your clamp dilemma. I was using the rail and the sling mount on it before so I felt I needed it. Now that I’m not using either and removed both from the clamp, it doesn’t really serve a purpose except complicate takedown.

Not thrilled with the finish wear on the barrel, however, even though all my stuff gets scratched since I’m awful at keeping my stuff pristine.

[Triggs75]

Handguard received :)

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[GearFondler]

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I've been waiting to see someone install a limbsaver on the 1301T... Cool.

[Coolcraigster26]

Trying to figure out my light situation. Either going with surefire mini scout pro or regular scout pro. Also trying to decide if i want a pressure pad or not. I like the idea of not having to move my hand from the handguard to activate light with the pressure pad. Whats yalls opinion?

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[RancidSumo]

Had my first failure of any kind on my 1301 today on the last round of 50 Rio buckshot I ran through it today. Last round (fed from the tube) did not fully come up to be pushed into the chamber. It stopped about half way up and was jammed into the receiver. Pushing up on the lifter sorted it.

Hopefully it's just the low quality ammo - always get nervous though when any gun has a feeding issue.

[Farstriker]

Had my first failure of any kind on my 1301 today on the last round of 50 Rio buckshot I ran through it today. Last round (fed from the tube) did not fully come up to be pushed into the chamber. It stopped about half way up and was jammed into the receiver. Pushing up on the lifter sorted it.

Hopefully it's just the low quality ammo - always get nervous though when any gun has a feeding issue.

Did you take apart the gun and clean and lube when you got it?

[RancidSumo]

Did you take apart the gun and clean and lube when you got it?

Not when I first got it, but I've done that once since then (~75-100 rounds ago).

[Farstriker]

Not when I first got it, but I've done that once since then (~75-100 rounds ago).

I gave mine a good wipe down and quick coat of lube. I’ve shot 1100 rounds of buck, target, various 3” loads and some slugs as of today. No issues. I had some old mystery rounds kicking in an ammo can and noticed some bulging on the cases, fed them sum bitches anyways. Noticed a little slower “slam” home of the bolt but everything went. Anything funky going on with old ammo maybe? Did the round that went off before your malfunction seem normal compared to everything else you shot? See if you can recreate the issue with dummy loads and short stroking the bolt maybe? Seems odd with how the timing of the lifter is tied to the bolt. Let us know though, I’m curious.

[Coolcraigster26]

Handguard received :)

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ChadI noticed your running Briley charging handle... been thinking about getting one. How do you like it compared to the factory plastic charging handle? Factory one just feels and seems cheap to me.

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[Triggs75]

I noticed your running Briley charging handle... been thinking about getting one. How do you like it compared to the factory plastic charging handle? Factory one just feels and seems cheap to me.

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That is why I changed it. I like it a lot, it is a solid fit and feels good. I have one on my other beretta shotgun as well so I like the same feel also.

Chad

[Coolcraigster26]

That is why I changed it. I like it a lot, it is a solid fit and feels good. I have one on my other beretta shotgun as well so I like the same feel also.

ChadWell here goes another $50... Thanks. Lol

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[GJM]

This thread is so long, I am not sure if it has already been covered, but what are the recommended lubrication spots on a 1301?

[mmc45414]

Well here goes another $50... Thanks. Lol

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I also like mine on my Extreama, and it is one thing I would probably swap on the 1301 that is probably in my future.

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[RancidSumo]

This thread is so long, I am not sure if it has already been covered, but what are the recommended lubrication spots on a 1301?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o2dOyVfdEI - Start at 6:30

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ogp1v8z5dU - Doesn't get into it as much but does show a bit.

Bottom line appears to be just lube up the bolt where it contacts the carrier, the outside of the carrier, and the rails inside the receiver. Keep it out of the piston.

[GJM]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o2dOyVfdEI - Start at 6:30

Bottom line appears to be just lube up the bolt where it contacts the carrier, the outside of the carrier, and the rails inside the receiver. Keep it out of the piston.

Thanks for posting this!

I am embarrassed to say I have never done that level of cleaning. Am I alone?

[Jason M]

Thanks for posting this!

I am embarrassed to say I have never done that level of cleaning. Am I alone?

You are not. I need to get around to doing this soon.

[GJM]

You are not. I need to get around to doing this soon.

The Beretta video says to clean the 1301 every time you fire it. That obviously is not something I am willing to do, and if really was necessary, I would just rely on my Benelli M2 shotguns and not look back. Anyone have a realistic PM schedule for the 1301?

[Doc_Glock]

Thanks for posting this!

I am embarrassed to say I have never done that level of cleaning. Am I alone?

I thought you just bought a new gun when one got dirty?

My highest round count 1301T is right around 600 rounds. I disassembled, cleaned and oiled it around 500 rounds. It didn't need it at that point though.

EDIT: I see I also cleaned and oiled it at 300 and added some oil at 430, six months later.

I think the most important PM for the 1301 is to check optics screws as they can definitely come loose.

[Coolcraigster26]

Damn... I just cleaned mine and oiled the piston. Guess I need to disassemble again and clean the oil out.

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[GJM]

The LTT Instagram has a 1301 disassembly and maintenance video up.

[RancidSumo]

The LTT Instagram has a 1301 disassembly and maintenance video up.

I don't have Instagram - is it the same vid as the second one I linked this morning?

[Exiledviking]

LTT cleaning video. https://youtu.be/5ogp1v8z5dU

[Farstriker]

This thread is so long, I am not sure if it has already been covered, but what are the recommended lubrication spots on a 1301?

The real debate is oil vs grease! :D

[msstate56]

Thanks for posting this!

I am embarrassed to say I have never done that level of cleaning. Am I alone?

Having owned a 1301 since they were first released years ago, no you are not alone. My cleaning regimen is to wipe the receiver and bolt down with a paper towel and re-lube. Maybe once a year pull a bore snake through the barrel a couple times. I’ll hose the trigger group out with gun scrubber or similar occasionally.

My A400 duck gun gets the same treatment about every other year.

[TCinVA]

The real debate is oil vs grease! :D

Once folks understand that grease is just oil with a binder, and that the oil component creeps, evaporates, and moves leaving nothing but the binder behind that debate usually stops, too. Shotguns are not a great idea for grease because they typically shoot very dirty and the binder will just sit around and collect crud turning it into a lapping compound. No es bueno.

If you need lubrication that doesn't float out when the gun gets submerged in water, grease works. (That's why the M1 Garand called for grease) Short of that, stick to a proper oil.

What I do for cleaning the gun:

Remove barrel, remove bolt assembly, remove piston. Wipe down bolt assembly with a blue towel and some Amsoil firearms cleaner. Use a typical Brownells plastic scrub brush with some of the same firearms cleaner on the recesses where the bolt lugs lock into the barrel extension. Use the still slightly wet brush to scrub the gas piston and the gas piston's housing. Dry the piston and housing thoroughly. (Occasional efforts to de-lead may be necessary if you shoot a lot of slugs)

Once a year or so I'll take the trigger plate out and clean inside the receiver usually using a spray solvent or something to blow a lot of that crud (unburned powder, other debris) out of there.

Cleaning the bore:

Brownell's chuckable shotgun cleaning rod and a tornado brush with a little BoreTech shotgun blend. I usually clean the bore once a year or when my patterns start to get weird.

Lubrication:

I put a drop or two of Amsoil gun lube (made from genuine group 4 base stock) on the neck of the bolt, on the raceway the cam pin rides in, and a drop on each of the bolt lugs. I put a drop on each of the forend welds of the bolt carrier as they ride inside the receiver and experience some friction. (The armorer's manual calls for lubricating these points) I'll also put a drop anywhere else that's shiny from wear.

I put a couple of drops on the recoil spring so it moves freely. (The armorer's manual calls for this, too)

Suitable lubricants:

Use something that doesn't suck or leaves behind sticky residues. RemOil evaporates if you look at it funny. Slip2000 works great...and no, you don't need the EWL stuff. Regular ol' Slip works beautifully.

I personally use Amsoil gun lube, but I put it into individual needler bottles so it lasts a ridiculously long time.

[TCinVA]

Having owned a 1301 since they were first released years ago, no you are not alone. My cleaning regimen is to wipe the receiver and bolt down with a paper towel and re-lube. Maybe once a year pull a bore snake through the barrel a couple times. I’ll hose the trigger group out with gun scrubber or similar occasionally.

My A400 duck gun gets the same treatment about every other year.

One of the benefits of buying a Beretta semi-auto is that they come from hunting guns that aren't treated even that well. A friend tells me he regularly gets guns in for service that were purchased more than a decade and a half ago that were taken out of the box and directly into the field where they shot hundreds of rounds for a bird season and were then shoved in a closet or a truck until the next season, wash-rinse-repeat with absolutely no cleaning and hardly ever any lubrication. And the reason the guns come back is because the stock is broken, or the gun won't cycle because there's a dead lizard inside the action that the owner didn't know about.

The 1301 is remarkably unconcerned with downright abusive lack of maintenance.

Obviously it will give its best and longest service when properly maintained, but it's not one of those finicky guns that will shut down if you didn't clean it after the last time you shot. It's the honey badger of semi-auto shotguns. Gives zero fucks.

[GearFondler]

or the gun won't cycle because there's a dead lizard inside the action that the owner didn't know about.

That's just fucking lazy... The least they could do is store it in the shed so a few bugs find their way inside to feed the lizard.

[Trigger]

Yeah, I knew trap-shooters that would clean their semi-auto once a year with kerosene or gasoline. Maybe 500 rounds a week, 25000 per year. The guns ran pretty well.

[Coolcraigster26]

Almost done with my 1301T build and been looking for Federal LE133 for a while now since that seems to be the go to for 00 buckshot defensive rounds. Every now and then I see the LE132 9 pellet in stock. Is the LE133 discontinued? How does the Hornady Critical Defense 8 pellet compare? Currently its loaded up with standard buckshot. Patterns ok but nothing like the flite control.

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[rob_s]

While the A300 Outlander Synthetics (https://www.beretta.com/en-us/a300-outlander-synthetic/) that my wife and I shoot for Sporting Clays aren’t a direct 1:1 for the 1301, they are similar (as I understand it) and neither has ever been cleaned. My wife’s gun is probably up to at least 500 rounds (thinking of 100 shells/game, she’s shot more than 5 games) and mine has to be more than double that. I think I may have once dripped some 10+ year old (bottle doesn’t even look like the ones on their website) Slip 2000 EWL (https://www.slip2000.com/slip2000_ewl.php) on the carrier, through the ejection port, at one point. I did have the gun apart once to paint the furniture, so I probably wiped the internals down at that time just to keep them from getting my hands too dirty.

[Unobtanium]

Once folks understand that grease is just oil with a binder, and that the oil component creeps, evaporates, and moves leaving nothing but the binder behind that debate usually stops, too. Shotguns are not a great idea for grease because they typically shoot very dirty and the binder will just sit around and collect crud turning it into a lapping compound. No es bueno.

If you need lubrication that doesn't float out when the gun gets submerged in water, grease works. (That's why the M1 Garand called for grease) Short of that, stick to a proper oil.

What I do for cleaning the gun:

Remove barrel, remove bolt assembly, remove piston. Wipe down bolt assembly with a blue towel and some Amsoil firearms cleaner. Use a typical Brownells plastic scrub brush with some of the same firearms cleaner on the recesses where the bolt lugs lock into the barrel extension. Use the still slightly wet brush to scrub the gas piston and the gas piston's housing. Dry the piston and housing thoroughly. (Occasional efforts to de-lead may be necessary if you shoot a lot of slugs)

Once a year or so I'll take the trigger plate out and clean inside the receiver usually using a spray solvent or something to blow a lot of that crud (unburned powder, other debris) out of there.

Cleaning the bore:

Brownell's chuckable shotgun cleaning rod and a tornado brush with a little BoreTech shotgun blend. I usually clean the bore once a year or when my patterns start to get weird.

Lubrication:

I put a drop or two of Amsoil gun lube (made from genuine group 4 base stock) on the neck of the bolt, on the raceway the cam pin rides in, and a drop on each of the bolt lugs. I put a drop on each of the forend welds of the bolt carrier as they ride inside the receiver and experience some friction. (The armorer's manual calls for lubricating these points) I'll also put a drop anywhere else that's shiny from wear.

I put a couple of drops on the recoil spring so it moves freely. (The armorer's manual calls for this, too)

Suitable lubricants:

Use something that doesn't suck or leaves behind sticky residues. RemOil evaporates if you look at it funny. Slip2000 works great...and no, you don't need the EWL stuff. Regular ol' Slip works beautifully.

I personally use Amsoil gun lube, but I put it into individual needler bottles so it lasts a ridiculously long time.

Ive had very good luck with extremely light, temperature insensitive greases like Black Rifle Balm. I like them because I shoot Benellis. M4, specifically. That said, the 1301 has aluminum on steel rails/receiver, and a rotating bolt with cam pin, also. I have found these greases excell at preventing wear for steel on aluminum, and reliability is preserved just as with a high quality clp.

[trajiiic]

Where were you able to find a comp pro style lifter?… been looking high and low and haven’t seen any.
Any kind of issues with the gg&g follower in drills? Binding in particular.

Sorry, I've been busy as of late with a move.

I purchased the comp pro lifter directly from Beretta right when they came out. I happened to to on their web store and saw it for sale. I'm sorry to hear that they aren't available because it's actually a really cool part.

No problems to report with the GG&G as of yet. However, I haven't done anything serious since installing it. I just shot trash in the back yard, haha. As I said, I've been busy.

[trajiiic]

It would seem that the 1301 carbon fiber charging handle is discontinued? I saw it in stock when i purchased the comp pro lifter but it's no longer listed on Beretta's web store. I was curious about that CH, but went with Briley instead because it was in stock at the time I made the CH purchase.

[Doc_Glock]

Thank you that is very helpful for putting things in context. And like I said before I am pretty sure Beretta has infinitely more experience building an ergonomic shotgun than me.

I have two pretty much identical 1301Ts and that test would be pretty easy to set up if I convert one back to full OE.

Coming back to the Magpul vs OE Beretta stock conversation... I don't think the question will ever be adequately addressed at least by me.

I took the OE stock out intending to install it on one of my two sample last night and then I remembered that for a while I did have one with the Magpul and one with the Beretta stock, and I preferred the Magpul, but I never actually shot them back to back, just dry handling.

Then I realized how much a pain it is to swap this thing on and off.

Then I started to contemplate the many drop and cast adjustments available for the Beretta stock and my head started to spin.

Then I mounted the shotgun with Magpul stock a bunch of times with eyes closed and generally when I opened them I had the red dot in the center of my vision or close enough that I think I will just use the straight 'Murican style Magpul and be happy. This is using a CROM with direct mounted Aimpoint.

I still think there is nothing at all wrong with keeping this shotgun totally stock. It is a great package out of the box.

[Coolcraigster26]

Anyone ordered a follower from Carrier Comp lately? I placed my order about 3 days ago. Confirmation email said they would call me within 2 days for payment. Then I scrolled down a little farther and it says please call or email to arrange payment. I emailed them yesterday but they have not responded. Anyone know how this wierd process works?

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[OldRunner/CSAT Neighbor]

Originally it was call only for purchase which is what I did a yr/2 ago.

[Exiledviking]

Anyone ordered a follower from Carrier Comp lately? I placed my order about 3 days ago. Confirmation email said they would call me within 2 days for payment. Then I scrolled down a little farther and it says please call or email to arrange payment. I emailed them yesterday but they have not responded. Anyone know how this wierd process works?

Sent from my SM-G960U1 using TapatalkThey're known for being slow. I believe it took them 5 days, IIRC, to call my friend last month after he ordered a follower and spring from them. But, they're known for quality stuff and they do deliver.

[StraitR]

Just picked up a 1301T, took a stab at finding some parts, and feel like I got lucky and found the Nordic kit in stock for a good price. Never used these guys, but order placed. If anyone else is looking, it said 5+ in stock last I looked.

https://littlecreektrading.com/nordic-beretta-1301-tactical-kit/

[ssb]

Just picked up a 1301T, took a stab at finding some parts, and feel like I got lucky and found the Nordic kit in stock for a good price. Never used these guys, but order placed. If anyone else is looking, it said 5+ in stock last I looked.

https://littlecreektrading.com/nordic-beretta-1301-tactical-kit/

That’s the last piece of the 1301 puzzle for me. Thanks!

[Coolcraigster26]

The last piece of the puzzle for me is finding federal flight control...

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[mmc45414]

Then I started to contemplate the many drop and cast adjustments available for the Beretta stock and my head started to spin.
There are really only two options for each side. I have a 391 that I have had for at least twelve years, probably longer, and for all this time I thought it was complicated and never looked into it, I shot it OK. Recently I have been using it for three gun, and one day a friend commented that all my hits were high (I never really ever patterned the thing), so I checked out the adjustments. And it really is just Cast On or Cast Off (Right or left hand) and more or less drop. I switched mine and have been making better hits, including shooting it at skeet (with a Nordic +5 tube on it...) and breaking a couple of 25/25 rounds.


I still think there is nothing at all wrong with keeping this shotgun totally stock. It is a great package out of the box.
And I probably will when I get one. Probably add a sling and maybe a light. And I will set the cast and drop the same as the 391 I have shot ten thousand times :cool:

[Coolcraigster26]

How are you guys attaching a Matchsaver to the Aridus handguard. You just buy individual mlok nuts and bolts and attach to mlok slot? Or do they offer a mlok version of the matchsaver?

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[Coolcraigster26]

Just got my modlite and my 508T. I think she is done... other than im still trying to find Federal flight control! And sorry for the crappy pics. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210823/eb9505c49dcdf0effd98ed5899fce9c6.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210823/4b55c1dbf690b126f04c1c17b7e9a03b.jpg

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[StraitR]

I was just able to purchase a stock adapter from Adam. Probably won't last long before the POS scalpers buy them up.

https://www.aridusindustries.com/products/asa-1301-stock-adapter/

ETA: No other parts were showing in stock for me at time of purchase. Although I just happened to look and find them in stock prior to checking emails, I did receive a notification email for the adapter.

[GJM]

There are really only two options for each side. I have a 391 that I have had for at least twelve years, probably longer, and for all this time I thought it was complicated and never looked into it, I shot it OK. Recently I have been using it for three gun, and one day a friend commented that all my hits were high (I never really ever patterned the thing), so I checked out the adjustments. And it really is just Cast On or Cast Off (Right or left hand) and more or less drop. I switched mine and have been making better hits, including shooting it at skeet (with a Nordic +5 tube on it...) and breaking a couple of 25/25 rounds.


And I probably will when I get one. Probably add a sling and maybe a light. And I will set the cast and drop the same as the 391 I have shot ten thousand times :cool:

Can you describe what pieces come installed on the 1301 and what you would change, based on your 391 stock experience?

[mmc45414]

Can you describe what pieces come installed on the 1301 and what you would change, based on your 391 stock experience?If yours came with the pieces, there is a plastic shim between the reciever and stock. And the metal piece the stock bolt goes through. The nomenclature is cryptic, but it is basically just high or low.

The proper way would be to shoot a pattern board, but I just went offa my buddy who was RO saying all my hits were high on the target, so I just switched the stock to the lower of the two settings.

Have since been shooting it at skeet. Last week I shot 23/25/21/22, that last round was a mental brain fart. I guess the +6 tube is an effective swing weight.

ETA: Lots of YouTube out there on what shim does what and how to change it.

[GJM]

If yours came with the pieces, there is a plastic shim between the reciever and stock. And the metal piece the stock bolt goes through. The nomenclature is cryptic, but it is basically just high or low.

The proper way would be to shoot a pattern board, but I just went offa my buddy who was RO saying all my hits were high on the target, so I just switched the stock to the lower of the two settings.

Have since been shooting it at skeet. Last week I shot 23/25/21/22, that last round was a mental brain fart. I guess the +6 tube is an effective swing weight.

ETA: Lots of YouTube out there on what shim does what and how to change it.

Do you have a 1301 Tactical or Competition with a vent rib?

[mmc45414]

Do you have a 1301 Tactical or Competition with a vent rib?I have a 391 Xtrema with a rib, but I looked at the manual on the www and I think it is the same.

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[mmc45414]

Have since been shooting it at skeet. Last week I shot 23/25/21/22, that last round was a mental brain fart.
Typo, I sold myself short, I shot 23/25/24/22. Had a good night going till the last round.

Earlier I was in a hurry, what I meant to say is that I think the 1301 stock is the same and uses the same shims. If you do not have them Midwest sells them.



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[JM Campbell]

I was just able to purchase a stock adapter from Adam. Probably won't last long before the POS scalpers buy them up.

https://www.aridusindustries.com/products/asa-1301-stock-adapter/

ETA: No other parts were showing in stock for me at time of purchase. Although I just happened to look and find them in stock prior to checking emails, I did receive a notification email for the adapter.

I have one if you need it. I ordered 2 when beretta USA website had a sale last year.


ETA: fast read of your post didn’t realize you were able to get one, so if anyone else needs one hit me up via PM.

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[StraitR]

I have one if you need it. I ordered 2 when beretta USA website had a sale last year.


ETA: fast read of your post didn’t realize you were able to get one, so if anyone else needs one hit me up via PM.

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Appreciate the kind gesture.

Still after a CROM (either) and Zhukov handguard kit if anyone wants to part with one.

[Dub_yu]

I have one if you need it. I ordered 2 when beretta USA website had a sale last year.
I will take it if you still have it. I've been waiting over a month and unfortunately missed out on this last batch. Sooo mad

ETA: fast read of your post didn’t realize you were able to get one, so if anyone else needs one hit me up via PM.

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[mmc45414]

Can you describe what pieces come installed on the 1301 and what you would change, based on your 391 stock experience?
Home now from a motorcycle trip, still had the 1301 manual on my desktop.
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[JM Campbell]

****UPDATE*****Adapter is spoken for.


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[Vorvon]

New 1301 owner. Loving it so far. Does anyone have a breaching attachment for their 1301 tactical? Looking for one that fits with the 1301. Any advice/suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you.

[Farstriker]

New 1301 owner. Loving it so far. Does anyone have a breaching attachment for their 1301 tactical? Looking for one that fits with the 1301. Any advice/suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you.

Are you talking about an extended choke with little stabby bits? Or something else?

[Vorvon]

Are you talking about an extended choke with little stabby bits? Or something else?

Yes, that's exactly what I'm talking about. It seems like I have to find one that fits the Optima HP choke.

[GearFondler]

Yes, that's exactly what I'm talking about. It seems like I have to find one that fits the Optima HP choke.My 1301T shipped to me with an extended, threaded choke that I was told was for a breaching attachment. I didn't want an inch of threaded chrome sticking past the muzzle so I called Beretta and they shipped me the correct flush fit choke. Here's a picture of it if it helps you out in any way. I have no idea what the actual Breaching attachment looks like or where to get one.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210902/a54be6d80fa0671a1075d59b403f3d57.jpg

[Farstriker]

Yes, that's exactly what I'm talking about. It seems like I have to find one that fits the Optima HP choke.

We moved away from attaching anything at the end of our shotgun systems and just used a 3” hold off with cylinder bore barrels for both the 590’s and m1014. Plenty of stuff out there though if your looking for that “tactical” look.. carlsons and the like.

FYI it with gunk up with crap from wadding and field debris which is very un-tactical and lame.
Non ported extended chokes have some merits in my opinion.

[Vorvon]

We moved away from attaching anything at the end of our shotgun systems and just used a 3” hold off with cylinder bore barrels for both the 590’s and m1014. Plenty of stuff out there though if your looking for that “tactical” look.. carlsons and the like.

FYI it with gunk up with crap from wadding and field debris which is very un-tactical and lame.
Non ported extended chokes have some merits in my opinion.

That's good advice. I don't want to mess with a good thing. Gonna keep the stock choke. Thank you. Yesterday, I went to my local store to get help with removing the stock bolt to put on the Magpul SGA, and lo and behold, the store actually had a Nordic Components extension on the shelf. That was the final piece of my upgrades to the 1301. Until Aridus puts out a new round of RMR CROMs. LOL

[HeavyDuty]

Just got an email from Beretta - are they rebooting the reboot?

76798

[StraitR]

Curious. Must be using US made parts for 922r compliance to add the factory extended tube. Either way, nice to see it continue to evolve, even though I just bought one two weeks ago. :p

ETA: Appears to be news - SKU J131TT18C - Standard Stock and J131TP18C for PG Stock

https://www.beretta.com/en-us/1301-tactical-skd/

[Risto]

Ok ok. I’m gonna get one. Can’t find any locally. Is there a recommended site to buy online? (I read a lot of this threat but not all of it)

[OlongJohnson]

Curious. Must be using US made parts for 922r compliance to add the factory extended tube.

Yeah, I was wondering about that. Would be cool if e_stern would come in and enlighten us. Presumably, if they can do that and sell it to non-LE, there should be a supply of US-made parts that someone might be able to buy for an earlier gun to make it compliant.

Beretta was very clear that the guns sold with extensions several years ago were intended for LE sales only, although some distributors didn't bother to stay inside that particular fence.

[PGT]

https://i.imgur.com/mhL8e83h.jpg

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[GJM]

My wife was up a few minutes before me this morning, and came to me and said “hey, a bear got into the trash overnight, grab your 1301 and go clear the area before I go out and clean it up.” The bear or bears had dragged a contractor garbage bag about 100 yards off near a tree.

[Clusterfrack]

My wife was up a few minutes before me this morning, and came to me and said “hey, a bear got into the trash overnight, grab your 1301 and go clear the area before I go out and clean it up.” The bear or bears had dragged a contractor garbage bag about 100 yards off near a tree.

Mine would have said, “grab your 1301 and go clean it up.”

[LittleLebowski]

Do we want a new thread for the next Gen 1301?

https://www.beretta.com/en-us/1301-tactical-skd/

[OldRunner/CSAT Neighbor]

Do we want a new thread for the next Gen 1301?

https://www.beretta.com/en-us/1301-tactical-skd/

When did the 7rd. tube become standard & after 10K pages don't ya think it's time?

[Cory]

When did the 7rd. tube become standard & after 10K pages don't ya think it's time?

They sent out an email yesterday, or the day before about it.

[StraitR]

Epic multi-year threads packed with searchable info is a hallmark of PF.

[Inkwell 41]

According to an Instagram exchange with Beretta USA, the updated 1301 Tactical’s are assembled in the US. I didn’t get any more information from them about it.

[GJM]

5 PF bucks to the first person who gets one of the new model.

[JEC]

I’ll be shooting both sample guns this weekend. They did a great job on these.

[OlongJohnson]

According to an Instagram exchange with Beretta USA, the updated 1301 Tactical’s are assembled in the US. I didn’t get any more information from them about it.

It doesn't matter where they're assembled. It matters where the parts are made.

[UNK]

It doesn't matter where they're assembled. It matters where the parts are made.

Absolutely OJ. The hundred dollar question is are they compliant or not. I wouldnt buy one till I knew for sure. Thats what has kept me from buying one. The additional cost of 922r compliance for just an extended magazine.

[mmc45414]

It doesn't matter where they're assembled. It matters where the parts are made.I wonder how specific the law is about defining manufacturing. Just like 80% guns, if Beretta drills some holes in the fire control group parts that are already stamped, does that define the parts being "made" here?...

Lemme know if this option results in anyone wanting to make me a deal on the current model. I have been thinking of keeping one five shot, for svelte simplicity and potentially more broadly permissive interstate travel. I might be ready about the time these become more available.

[GJM]

What are the differences with the latest Gen besides the extended magazine tube?

[Inkwell 41]

@Olong and UNK



I have no dog in the 922R fight and I don't work for Beretta. I only passed on information provided to me via an Instagram post. I took it no further than that. If anyone wants to determine the details of how Beretta is doing this, I suggest contacting Beretta.

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@Olong and UNK



I have no dog in the 922R fight and I don't work for Beretta. I only passed on information provided to me via an Instagram post. I took it no further than that. If anyone wants to determine the details of how Beretta is doing this, I suggest contacting Beretta.

Good info Inkwell thanks for posting it.

[Farstriker]

Stock adapters in stock


https://www.bigtexordnance.com/product/aridus-industries-asa-1301-stock-adapter/

[Troy C]

Stock adapters in stock


https://www.bigtexordnance.com/product/aridus-industries-asa-1301-stock-adapter/

my hero.

[Greg Bell]

I installed my Crom mount (with Haught mod) and a 6.5 MOA RMR I got for cheap. I got it zeroed at 50 Yards with Ranger Low Recoil Slugs and it patterned perfectly at 30 feet and still sub paper plate and dead on at 25 yards. This thing is DEFINITELY my favorite shotgun ever (finally, my old 870 has slipped to second). I actually had a previous version of this shotgun about 10 years ago and a benelli super 90 but this thing is amazing. Not only is it super fast, if feeds everything from fancy Buckshot to Wal Mart garbage gauge.

Be forewarned. I probably should edit this down but I am too lazy tonight. LOL



https://youtu.be/EvXvHwwdnyU

[BWT]

I installed my Crom mount (with Haught mod) and a 6.5 MOA RMR I got for cheap. I got it zeroed at 50 Yards with Ranger Low Recoil Slugs and it patterned perfectly at 30 feet and still sub paper plate and dead on at 25 yards. This thing is DEFINITELY my favorite shotgun ever (finally, my old 870 has slipped to second). I actually had a previous version of this shotgun about 10 years ago and a benelli super 90 but this thing is amazing. Not only is it super fast, if feeds everything from fancy Buckshot to Wal Mart garbage gauge.

Be forewarned. I probably should edit this down but I am too lazy tonight. LOL



https://youtu.be/EvXvHwwdnyU

I enjoyed it and your channel. 100% right about forum discussions. We both hail from a different forum and it eventually did get to the point (for me) that I was like “Why bother? It’s an echo chamber and talking down to people is the norm. We know everything and there’s nothing new worth discussing.” I’ll get off my soapbox and just say I enjoyed your content and humor.

[mmc45414]

So, here is my 391 Xtreama. I bought it with the intent of doing some waterfowl hunting that I never did, but I have shot a bunch of skeet and sporting clays targets and a handful of birds. But I started doing three gun a year or so ago and started throwing parts at it, and then I started grinding on it, then I drilled holes in it. So this is how you start with a gun you paid $1000 for and make it worth about $500 by adding $600 in accessories and grinding on it for maybe ten hours in order to save fifteen seconds a month:

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It is a 28" gun that has:
+6 Nordic Tube
Beretta Bolt Release
Briley Bolt Handle
LPA Sights
Nordic (red) Follower (the factory follower, with a hole in it, did look a lot like the base of a shell)
Briley Cokes: CYL, LM & IM

But the main modification is grinding the loading port, this obviously detracts from the resale value, but I figure that is my wife's problem:

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This would be a crappy job if it were professionally done, but I am fairly happy with it for having done it myself. It is asymmetrical because the serial number on the receiver is in the way, but the angle I will be holding it at should not be a big deal, and I am not all that fast at it (yet?...) anyway. The gray dot is where I kept trying to grind out a nick, until I figured out there was are weight reduction voids in the casting, so I drilled it out to make it a little rounder and filled it with JB Weld. All of this is the facilitate the quad/twin (probably just twins for me, short fingers) loading methods that are really, IMO, shenanigans but you gotta do what ya gotta do.

The LPA sights also required drilling three holes in the receiver, but if I ever remove them the gun will still be perfectly functional. I also took advantage of the adjustment in the stock, and I raised it back up to the higher position so now I am in a pretty good spot behind the higher sights.

I drifted my way through three Nordic tubes and tried it with and without the clamp. I think the Extreama is not exactly the same as the 3" guns, but I had a tube that held total 9+1, and this was nice because preloading for division capacity (nine) meant I could fill the tube and when I got to the line I could chamber a round without adding a Barney Bullet. But then I tried a slightly shorter tube that gave me 8+1, because the thing feels so different (I have probably fired 10k through the gun) with the tube. But the very next match the organizers called an audible and suspended my 9+1 limit for that day. Plus one technique is to top off after the beep so you can maybe keep the gun mounted and complete the stage. So now I have the +6 that runs all of the way to the end of the barrel. I also struggled with the clamp, it is heavy way out there, and does pull the tube out of alignment. The first time I used it with the +6 the follow jammed up while I was preloading, and I had to scurry around and get a wrench to take it off before it was my turn. So I moved the clamp farther back, but then it was shifting, so I dabbed a little blue thread locker under it (it was handy, RTV would be a better solution), but I decided to just take it off so I need to clean up the residue.

I have been participating in this thread, sorta like the guy with the metric cruiser bike at the back of the group of his friends on Harleys, but thought I might post some pics. I will get a 1301T someday... :cool:

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thetruthaboutguns.com/berettas-new-and-enhanced-1301-tactical-shotgun/amp/

We are proud to introduce the newest additions to the Beretta 1301 Family. We have heard the feedback from our customers and spent the time to determine how to make the 1301 Tactical 922(R) compliant and offer our customers the magazine capacity that they have been requesting for years with a factory 7+1 capacity magazine tube and a new MLok compatible barrel clamp with dual integral QD Sling swivels. The new pistol grip offering with a Mesa Tactical pistol grip stock allows for greater control and easier manipulation at the user level. We are very excited to bring these new offerings to the market,” Erik Stern, Tactical and Pro Shop Product Manager, said.

[Clusterfrack]

^^^this is an excellent development.

Thanks e_stern!

[rob_s]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thetruthaboutguns.com/berettas-new-and-enhanced-1301-tactical-shotgun/amp/

We are proud to introduce the newest additions to the Beretta 1301 Family. We have heard the feedback from our customers and spent the time to determine how to make the 1301 Tactical 922(R) compliant and offer our customers the magazine capacity that they have been requesting for years with a factory 7+1 capacity magazine tube and a new MLok compatible barrel clamp with dual integral QD Sling swivels. The new pistol grip offering with a Mesa Tactical pistol grip stock allows for greater control and easier manipulation at the user level. We are very excited to bring these new offerings to the market,” Erik Stern, Tactical and Pro Shop Product Manager, said.


^^^this is an excellent development.

Thanks e_stern!

Totally agree!

The older I get, the less fiddle-fart I want, and the happier I am with products that offer me a turn-key solution.

I’m just not that special.

[JHC]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thetruthaboutguns.com/berettas-new-and-enhanced-1301-tactical-shotgun/amp/

We are proud to introduce the newest additions to the Beretta 1301 Family. We have heard the feedback from our customers and spent the time to determine how to make the 1301 Tactical 922(R) compliant and offer our customers the magazine capacity that they have been requesting for years with a factory 7+1 capacity magazine tube and a new MLok compatible barrel clamp with dual integral QD Sling swivels. The new pistol grip offering with a Mesa Tactical pistol grip stock allows for greater control and easier manipulation at the user level. We are very excited to bring these new offerings to the market,” Erik Stern, Tactical and Pro Shop Product Manager, said.

Very cool young Stern! :D

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2021/09/15/berettas-enhanced-1301/

[OlongJohnson]

The question (almost) everybody immediately asked is how it's 922(r) compliant. It's starting to get annoying that no information coming from Beretta regarding the new versions includes that info. Something like, "We are now making these four parts in the U.S."

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The question (almost) everybody immediately asked is how it's 922(r) compliant. It's starting to get annoying that no information coming from Beretta regarding the new versions includes that info. Something like, "We are now making these four parts in the U.S."

I agree. I would like specifics. They also should offer a package for people who want to upgrade their current 1301’s. At cost not normal Beretta accessory price.

[Sharkbite]

I agree. I would like specifics. They also should offer a package for people who want to upgrade their current 1301’s. At cost not normal Beretta accessory price.

^^^^^this x's 1000^^^^^^^ Bought a gen 1-- 3 weeks ago. In for info.

[John Hearne]

I'm amused that my resistance to the siren's song of 1301 purchase has effectively been rewarded. But, now my resistance seems futile.

[GJM]

The straight stock variant of the new mode seems to be available on GB and elsewhere for about a $75 premium over the existing models.

[OlongJohnson]

I agree. I would like specifics. They also should offer a package for people who want to upgrade their current 1301’s. At cost not normal Beretta accessory price.

I don't really think that's a reasonable ask. Moderately discounted from typical individual parts pricing as a "922(r) Compliance Kit" would be nice (especially with awesome sale pricing on major holidays), but asking them to retrofit fully functional shotguns that were bought by people who knew full well the status of them if they did their research without making any additional profit isn't really in the same book as wanting them to continue in business.

Just speculating, it seems logical that the hammer, trigger, disconnector and follower would make the kit. Those are probably the easiest parts on the list to get made in the U.S. It should be under $100 msrp, based on Browning's prices for similar items. Doesn't have to be made by Geissele or Briley. If Black Friday made it $50-70, that would be stellar for the user community and still very profitable for Beretta.

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I don't really think that's a reasonable ask. Moderately discounted from typical individual parts pricing as a "922(r) Compliance Kit" would be nice (especially with awesome sale pricing on major holidays), but asking them to retrofit fully functional shotguns that were bought by people who knew full well the status of them if they did their research without making any additional profit isn't really in the same book as wanting them to continue in business.

Just speculating, it seems logical that the hammer, trigger, disconnector and follower would make the kit. Those are probably the easiest parts on the list to get made in the U.S. It should be under $100 msrp, based on Browning's prices for similar items. Doesn't have to be made by Geissele or Briley. If Black Friday made it $50-70, that would be stellar for the user community and still very profitable for Beretta.

At one hundred I wouldn't complain if I was an owner. I was envisioning a several hundred price tag.

[Farstriker]

It’s the same gun as the gen 2’s with a factory tube and clamp.
Loading port is the same and the safety and bolt release are the same.
A one piece tube with a plastic cover and clamp may be better in the long run then the Nordic setup. I know for those folks that complain about the finish on the barrel getting scratched it must seem like the best thing ever.

I’m interested to see it come to market with a magpul stock with berettas grip texture on it and a 3” comp pro lifter straight from the factory. That would be the cats meow.

[backtrail540]

Enhanced models showing up already?

https://www.budsgunshop.com/product_info.php/products_id/139777/beretta+usa+j131tt18c+1301+tactical+12+ga+3+7%2b1+ 1850+black+anodized+recbarrel+black+fixed+stock+wi th+ghost+ring+sights+&+

[David S.]

Ok ok. I’m gonna get one. Can’t find any locally. Is there a recommended site to buy online? (I read a lot of this threat but not all of it)

There's a well equipped one in the P-F classifieds.

[Coal Train]

Enhanced models showing up already?

https://www.budsgunshop.com/product_info.php/products_id/139777/beretta+usa+j131tt18c+1301+tactical+12+ga+3+7%2b1+ 1850+black+anodized+recbarrel+black+fixed+stock+wi th+ghost+ring+sights+&+

Yes. Yes they are….

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[Coal Train]

It feels pretty handy. The forearm texturing is nice, almost “sticky.” I am hoping it has an MLOK mount on the barrel clamp for a light but I can’t tell from looking at it. Box says “Made in USA” but the receiver and barrel are stamped “Made in Italy” Hoping with the shortened stock and the lighter weight that the wife can use it to keep people off the lawn. She has an A400 lite compact she is getting familiar with for clays so the manual of arms should be similar enough. Going to try it out soon with reduced power buckshot so see how it runs. Will likely put some type of red dot on it. If I can figure out a plug limiter for it I will likely put it to use on Thunder Chickens.

I have had really terrible luck with Beretta shotguns of late so I am hoping this one runs as advertised. Excited to try it. We are in the process of moving so I hope I can at least get to cycle it a few times over the weekend.

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[SW CQB 45]

YAY.... my 1301LTT shipped today. Hopefully mid next week in my hands!

[OldRunner/CSAT Neighbor]

It feels pretty handy. The forearm texturing is nice, almost “sticky.” I am hoping it has an MLOK mount on the barrel clamp for a light but I can’t tell from looking at it. Box says “Made in USA” but the receiver and barrel are stamped “Made in Italy” Hoping with the shortened stock and the lighter weight that the wife can use it to keep people off the lawn. She has an A400 lite compact she is getting familiar with for clays so the manual of arms should be similar enough. Going to try it out soon with reduced power buckshot so see how it runs. Will likely put some type of red dot on it. If I can figure out a plug limiter for it I will likely put it to use on Thunder Chickens.

I have had really terrible luck with Beretta shotguns of late so I am hoping this one runs as advertised. Excited to try it. We are in the process of moving so I hope I can at least get to cycle it a few times over the weekend.

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Coal Train is the gen2 forearm texturing diff. from the gen 1’s? Asking as I’m w/ my holster enabler amigo as we both like the OEM forearm just fine or better than the MP Zhukov as that def. needs stippling IMO.

[Farstriker]

Coal Train is the gen2 forearm texturing diff. from the gen 1’s? Asking as I’m w/ my holster enabler amigo as we both like the OEM forearm just fine or better than the MP Zhukov as that def. needs stippling IMO.

Same gun as the gen 2’s only has a different tube and clamp.
The “new” LE model just has a different stock on it.
The gen 2 LE made in the last year that I have seen ( Jan and March production) have come with threaded chokes.

Next week a “new” 1301 is coming in and I am going to fully take it apart to see if there are any markings or discernible differences in parts inside the receiver or any other part of the gun.

[Greg Bell]

Oh man! I really hope they make that stock furniture available.

[Coal Train]

Coal Train is the gen2 forearm texturing diff. from the gen 1’s? Asking as I’m w/ my holster enabler amigo as we both like the OEM forearm just fine or better than the MP Zhukov as that def. needs stippling IMO.
This one seems more grippy than the last 1301 I handled but I'm not sure if that was a Gen 1 or Gen 2.

[GearFondler]

[MENTION=13270]better than the MP Zhukov as that def. needs stippling IMO.

Like this?

I did it myself but it was a pain in the ass because the polymer Magpul uses is full of fiberglass which does not play well with the stippling iron. I ended up with an aggressive texture which is what counts, but I struggled to keep any kind of pattern or definition. This is probably why you don't see this service offered anywhere.
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[Rex G]

Yes. Yes they are….

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Interesting. An electrically-rechargeable shotgun?

Very green. :)

[GearFondler]

Interesting. An electrically-rechargeable shotgun?

Very green. :)We're not there yet... That's just for the tac light and RDS.

[Andy in NH]

I ended up with an aggressive texture which is what counts, but I struggled to keep any kind of pattern or definition.

I think that looks great and agree that functionality > aesthetics.

[SW CQB 45]

I dont have my 1301LTT yet, and not sure if this will help.....

but in 2013 I bought a police trade in 870P. The stock was rough so I cut it down a bit. I wanted a light on it, so went with MagPul forend. I felt it was too slippery for a pump....so I added grip tape to the magpul forend and then lightly painted it with Aervoe to closely match the stock.

1000% improvement.
https://i.imgur.com/F6SOva2h.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/zo4oSRlh.jpg

[SW CQB 45]

Like this?

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210918/08a8267145968b7a6225f00fc11e1211.jpg

Nice job!!!

looks grippy.

what is the fabric on the top side of the barrel for?

[GearFondler]

Nice job!!!

looks grippy.

what is the fabric on the top side of the barrel for?Sigh... Good eye.

So here's the deal with that.

Recently I've seen a few people mount some type of hand stop to the side of a shotgun foregrip to facilitate better control and I wanted to try it for myself.
I started with an AR vertical hand grip and cut it down shorter and mounted it on the 1301. The tape is automotive wiring tape used to protect wires from engine heat... I added some of it to the barrel so that if my new hand position shifted enough to allow my thumb to touch the hot barrel I wouldn't get too badly scorched.
I tried this all out at the range last week and was pleasantly surprised with the results. Push-Pull transitioned from something I needed to remember into something that naturally occured.
The simple repositioning of my hand from under the fore end to the side in kind of a modified C grip completely changed the dynamics... I felt much stronger and much more in control of the recoil. That position just works better with the bones and muscles in my support arm. I'm dummy-far from being an expert but it seems to me the only real reason we place our support hand under the fore grip of a shotgun is to run the pump action. I don't need that with an auto so why be slaved to it? I'm not going to stick with a less efficient method than necessary in fear that it may one day initially screw me up if I grab a pump gun.
It's not perfect in that it's kind of ugly, it's slightly in the way of my right hand from transitioned shooting, and it's just large enough to make toggling the light not 100% natural... It takes a slight reach with my thumb which is not ideal.
Basically it's a work in progress, but I feel the concept is sound until someone smarter and with better training tells me why it's dumb/wrong/gonna get me kilt in da streetz. A slightly smaller solution would be better but it needs to stay large enough to spread out the recoil through the whole hand so it doesn't just batter my thumb to death... In that regard this one is ideal. I didn't even think about it as I was shooting... I was just like "why haven't I done this sooner?".

Everyone feel free to laugh, praise, advise or instruct...
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[JSGlock34]

Is the 'oversized' loading port (in the advertisement below) an actual change to the receiver? Otherwise everything else is more or less a parts swap for 922R compliance, right?
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[Andy in NH]

Everyone feel free to laugh, praise, advise or instruct...

Bravo Zulu for experimenting!

[SW CQB 45]

You can probably take your horizontal grip down further if needed.

.25” or more to minimize width.

[GearFondler]

You can probably take your horizontal grip down further if needed.

.25” or more to minimize width.It's not actually hollow or I would. I cut it down and then finished it with a belt grinder... The belt grinder heated the plastic (zytel maybe?) to melting and it scabbed over the hollow grip and hardened again. I said fuck it and left it like that... keeps the wasps out of it, lol.
If I could lower the whole grip about 3/8 - 1/2" it would be ideal but I'm stuck with the M-lok slots already there and cutting new lower slots is a no-go because the piston underneath is in the way.

[Lon]

Saw one of the new 1301 Tacticals today. Pretty nice. I couldn’t tell for sure if the mag clamp would take MLOK or not. The shop wanted full retail for it, but they only got it in a couple days ago.

[Rex G]

Sigh... Good eye.

So here's the deal with that.

Recently I've seen a few people mount some type of hand stop to the side of a shotgun foregrip to facilitate better control and I wanted to try it for myself.
I started with an AR vertical hand grip and cut it down shorter and mounted it on the 1301. The tape is automotive wiring tape used to protect wires from engine heat... I added some of it to the barrel so that if my new hand position shifted enough to allow my thumb to touch the hot barrel I wouldn't get too badly scorched.
I tried this all out at the range last week and was pleasantly surprised with the results. Push-Pull transitioned from something I needed to remember into something that naturally occured.
The simple repositioning of my hand from under the fore end to the side in kind of a modified C grip completely changed the dynamics... I felt much stronger and much more in control of the recoil. That position just works better with the bones and muscles in my support arm. I'm dummy-far from being an expert but it seems to me the only real reason we place our support hand under the fore grip of a shotgun is to run the pump action. I don't need that with an auto so why be slaved to it? I'm not going to stick with a less efficient method than necessary in fear that it may one day initially screw me up if I grab a pump gun.
It's not perfect in that it's kind of ugly, it's slightly in the way of my right hand from transitioned shooting, and it's just large enough to make toggling the light not 100% natural... It takes a slight reach with my thumb which is not ideal.
Basically it's a work in progress, but I feel the concept is sound until someone smarter and with better training tells me why it's dumb/wrong/gonna get me kilt in da streetz. A slightly smaller solution would be better but it needs to stay large enough to spread out the recoil through the whole hand so it doesn't just batter my thumb to death... In that regard this one is ideal. I didn't even think about it as I was shooting... I was just like "why haven't I done this sooner?".

Everyone feel free to laugh, praise, advise or instruct...
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Valid experiment! I might rather not add width to a gun, but, in this case, the light and side saddle add width to that side of the weapon, so, if the hand stop/grip enhances your handling, well, good work, sir!

Meanwhile, I continue to try to resist all of this Beretta-oriented enabling. (I transitioned from an 870P, back to a Benelli, for police duty, in 2016, and added a second Benelli, after I retired, in 2018.)

[314159]

I'm curious about the effectiveness and longevity of the wiring tape on the barrel. I've burned my fingers a few times on a hot barrel. I'll chip in for the aloe lotion if you'll touch test the bare portion versus the taped next session...

[GearFondler]

I'm curious about the effectiveness and longevity of the wiring tape on the barrel. I've burned my fingers a few times on a hot barrel. I'll chip in for the aloe lotion if you'll touch test the bare portion versus the taped next session...
Since we've already both been there/done that I'm not sure a repeat is necessary, lol. If the tape fails I'll just come up with another idea.

You can probably take your horizontal grip down further if needed.

.25” or more to minimize width.Your suggestion caused me to reconsider my earlier reply. Plus I wanted to make the whole thing a bit less butt-ugly.
I shorted it up some more and gave it a little angle for extra tacticool points and then noted how thick the walls of the grip actually were. This gave me some material to work with so I ground down the top section to give my thumb so more room to reach. It works better now and doesn't require as much effort to hit the toggle switch.
It's still kind of ugly, but maybe now it's a cool ugly versus the exploding hernia it was.

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[Bergeron]

I love a good experiment, and pleased to hear about the difference the your handstop makes in push-pull technique.

[SW CQB 45]

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tacticool points given.

looks much better and hey if it works (to improve follow up shots and keeping your from getting burned) A+ for creative thinking.

now if you could store and retain a single slug round in the hole.... thats the ticket (HA... just kidding)

[Andy in NH]

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:D

[GearFondler]

One more mod to finish it off as I never know when to quit, lol.

I still wasn't totally happy with activating the light toggle so I decided to add an extension to it. I pondered multiple ways to accomplish this with reliability being my primary concern. I finally settled on using epoxy putty with screws inside it to fully anchor it in place, molding the epoxy around the screws. Now it's perfect if not exactly sexy.
Try not to drool on your keyboards... [emoji23]

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[SW CQB 45]

One more mod to finish it off as I never know when to quit, lol.

I still wasn't totally happy with activating the light toggle so I decided to add an extension to it. I pondered multiple ways to accomplish this with reliability being my primary concern. I finally settled on using epoxy putty with screws inside it to fully anchor it in place, molding the epoxy around the screws. Now it's perfect if not exactly sexy.
Try not to drool on your keyboards... [emoji23]



we are in the same boat. I have a 92LTT and extremely large hands and long fingers. My thumb was ever so slightly catching the slide stop and preventing slide lock.

I looked for thicker grips as I felt the factory LTT grip was thinned in the thumb area. But I liked the grip....so I went GearFondler method and it worked. I little dab (blk RTV) will do ya. Just enough to reposition my thumb.

https://i.imgur.com/UCqURqsh.jpg

[pistolzone]

Looks like Beretta is reintroducing the TX-4 Storm, under the name "1301 Tactical:"

http://www.gunsholstersandgear.com/2013/10/29/beretta-1301-tactical-shotgun/

Need it.:p

[John Hearne]

But I liked the grip....so I went GearFondler method and it worked. I little dab (blk RTV) will do ya. Just enough to reposition my thumb.


I did something similar when making the move from a thumbs forward to thumbs high grip. I did a class at Thunder Ranch with this grip panel and 1000 rounds. It only took a week of immediate painful correction to fix my grip.

[destruya]

One more mod to finish it off as I never know when to quit, lol.

I still wasn't totally happy with activating the light toggle so I decided to add an extension to it. I pondered multiple ways to accomplish this with reliability being my primary concern. I finally settled on using epoxy putty with screws inside it to fully anchor it in place, molding the epoxy around the screws. Now it's perfect if not exactly sexy.
Try not to drool on your keyboards... [emoji23]

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While it certainly looks like you have self-done modifications well in hand, I'd be remiss in not posting this for those who might wish to follow your lead who aren't as patient with remolding plastic: https://www.phlsterholsters.com/shop/arc-enhanced-wml-switches/

The TLR-1 HL kit comes with a "one long, one short" and "two long" switches to replace the stock switches.

Also, glad I found this forum - I'm picking up my Gen 2 1301T tonight. Also waiting on my Aridus adapter from the Big Tex drop but it's been annoyingly delayed going through Houston for what I can only assume are weather-related reasons. =/

Does anyone know if the stock +2 extension on the former Gen 2s is the Nordic part, or is it some Beretta-approved knockoff? I know I have a Gen 2, not a new "Gen 2.1."

[SW CQB 45]

my 1301LTT came early.

Very impressed with it. I went with the CROM RMR but no side saddle. I have quite a few side saddles that I will use with velcro.

the MagPul forend is slick. after I figure out what I will mount on it and how I will support hand hold it... grip tape will be applied.

this dude is light.

[destruya]

So...

I'm a little confused. I just took delivery of my 1301T tonight, and was curious about adding a choke, and the gun *came* with a choke key, but it appears that the barrel is 1) un-threaded, and 2) no notches are visible.

My SKU is J131T18N2LE, with the standard stock (as I want a shotgun that *looks* like a shotgun >.>), not the Mesa Tactical Urbino. Is this one that has a fixed internal choke?

EDIT: Answered my own question, it has a fixed (and non-removable) OBHP-IC choke.

[GearFondler]

While it certainly looks like you have self-done modifications well in hand, I'd be remiss in not posting this for those who might wish to follow your lead who aren't as patient with remolding plastic: https://www.phlsterholsters.com/shop/arc-enhanced-wml-switches/

The TLR-1 HL kit comes with a "one long, one short" and "two long" switches to replace the stock switches.


I didn't realize the Arc switches were available for the TRL, so that's cool, but I needed a wider switch rather than a longer one... I needed it to stick up further to make it easier for my thumb to swipe across it. But thanks for the info!

[Unobtanium]

How does the TLR hold up to 12ga recoil? Does it shoot loose over time, or nah? How long and how many full power rounds on that?

[OlongJohnson]

Also waiting on my Aridus adapter from the Big Tex drop but it's been annoyingly delayed going through Houston for what I can only assume are weather-related reasons. =/

More likely the post office being the post office. The tropical storm a week ago was a big nothing in Houston. Kids got called back to outdoor band practice in the afternoon.

[scw2]

I saw arms unlimited (https://www.armsunlimited.com/Beretta-1301-Tactical-Semi-Auto-12-GA-Shotgun-p/j131tp18nle.htm) selling a pistol grip version with mag tube extension for $1350. I believe it's an older model based on comments, and not the new release discussed a few days ago in this thread.

[BobM]

More likely the post office being the post office. The tropical storm a week ago was a big nothing in Houston. Kids got called back to outdoor band practice in the afternoon.

Well, band kids are tougher than other kids

[destruya]

I saw arms unlimited (https://www.armsunlimited.com/Beretta-1301-Tactical-Semi-Auto-12-GA-Shotgun-p/j131tp18nle.htm) selling a pistol grip version with mag tube extension for $1350. I believe it's an older model based on comments, and not the new release discussed a few days ago in this thread.

Yeah, if it's not showing the new M-LOK barrel clamp, it's the "Gen 2," not the "Gen 2+."

To echo others, one can only hope they ~eventually~ sell that clamp by itself.

[GearFondler]

How does the TLR hold up to 12ga recoil? Does it shoot loose over time, or nah? How long and how many full power rounds on that?I don't shoot mine nearly as often as I wish and I've pulled the TLR multiple times for various reasons so I don't have a long run of full power loads through it to answer your question.
I can say that with the large slotted knob my TLR has I can really torque it down tight so I don't expect any trouble but it's on a 12g... Pretty much anything can eventually shoot loose which is why I witness mark every screw on the 1301.

[Unobtanium]

I don't shoot mine nearly as often as I wish and I've pulled the TLR multiple times for various reasons so I don't have a long run of full power loads through it to answer your question.
I can say that with the large slotted knob my TLR has I can really torque it down tight so I don't expect any trouble but it's on a 12g... Pretty much anything can eventually shoot loose which is why I witness mark every screw on the 1301.

My tlr vir 2 arrived. It went straight onto my .22 pistol. Just not what I want on a gauge. Will continue using my m300v and aiming passive.