*THE* Gen 5 Glock thread: First Impressions, Reviews and Thoughts

[Steve m]

Is there a single side slide release anyone is making yet?

[RJ]

Did anyone answer the ‘are the 10 Round Magazines ok’ question yet?

I missed it if so...

[GJM]

Gabe bit the bullet and picked up two G5/17 with Ameriglo sights today. :p

And, he likes them!

[Mr_White]

I've been kind of bored. I've been in a rut. Just trying to maintain. Not excited enough to really eke out improvement from where I am now. I'm usually very stable with equipment and stick with what I choose for years. If you gave me a wishlist item to apply to previous Glocks, I'd have asked for more mechanical accuracy. So I have been very interested in the Gen5 Glocks. I don't have any big shooting events coming up over the next couple of months. I have time to explore and build up again. I think it will help me refocus my interest and attention in shooting to change things around just a little bit. So yesterday, with those feelings bubbling under the surface, I grabbed up two Gen5 G17s with the Ameriglo sights.

They are really, really nice - easily the nicest stock iteration of the G17 IMHO. Buttery smooth action, great texture, good mag catch and other controls, I like that they have shored up the slide lock spring, trigger spring, and firing pin safety, the magwell is excellent, the trigger is among the best I have felt on a stock Glock, and the sights are very enjoyable to interact with. It's fun to use night sights again. I shot a few hundred rounds yesterday afternoon and it worked without issue (even with PMAG21s.) Hitting just below top edge at 25 yards with 124gr + P Gold Dot and 147gr HST. When I brought the distance to 7 yards, 1.8x Bill Drills, 1.3x Failures to Stop, and 1.2x/1.3x pairs to the head were falling right out of the gun. It is very attractive to me to have a completely stock gun that I want to shoot as much as my lightly-tuned Gen3 G34s (actually more, at the moment.)

Want to know how I know this was a good purchase for me? After training last night, and I was beat and tired, and got home after an 18 hour day, all I wanted to do was dry fire my Gen5s. :)

[flux]

Please don't take this as trolling, I am really curious if anybody heard anything if a gen 5 G26 being released? Or should I just suck it up and buy another G19..

[Totem Polar]

Please don't take this as trolling, I am really curious if anybody heard anything if a gen 5 G26 being released? Or should I just suck it up and buy another G19..

There’s infoin this thread and elsewhere, but the BLUF is: Glock reps in several regions have stated yes, but not until after the first of the year.

[CanineCombatives]

So now that I've got the G17/G19 gen 5 duo in my hands I can say with certainty that the scallop is a non issue on the 17 but a real annoyance on the 19, hopefully I wont notice it after running the first few hundred, not much more to add till I get at least a thousand cases on the deck, I see what everyone is saying about the trigger and all that yep it feels like a good street trigger out of the box, reset remains stronger than anything else out there with a click so pronounced you can hear it in the next room, I expect they will both run like glocks, the only curiosity for me will be this new barrel and tighter lockup, the P320 and APX have both been lasers out of the box compared to my previous gen glocks all with stock barrels so if it pulls even with them and the VP9 I'll be well stoked.

BTW I have the fed contract sights, .125 orange front on both.

[kitten_frenzy]

There’s infoin this thread and elsewhere, but the BLUF is: Glock reps in several regions have stated yes, but not until after the first of the year.

Any info on the G46's release to the US market :confused:

[philpac33]

I read this entire thread, off and on throughout the day. I’ve arranged to buy a 19.5 tomorrow. I’m excited to work it out!!

[HCM]

Any info on the G46's release to the US market :confused:

No. Don't hold your breath. The 46 is not even commercially available in Europe. It is being submitted for some German police trials - that is all. Anything else is speculation.

The 46 was designed to meet German LE requirements which exclude guns requiring the trigger to be pulled for disassembly. Glock has made many variations for foreign police contracts such as models with manual safeties which have never been made availibke in the U.S. commercial market.

[HCM]

Please don't take this as trolling, I am really curious if anybody heard anything if a gen 5 G26 being released? Or should I just suck it up and buy another G19..

As noted Glock has stated the next two Gen5's will be the 26 and 34. No time frames were given but SHOT or NRA show 2018 would be good guesses.

[Larry Sellers]

Just wanted to add a data point. I ran 250 rounds through my 19.5 yesterday and as others have said the cutout isn't a factor. The flared magwell that I thought was going to interfere with my grip actually makes it stronger. Absolutely impressed with the feel under recoil on the pistol.

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[Texaspoff]

So now that I've got the G17/G19 gen 5 duo in my hands I can say with certainty that the scallop is a non issue on the 17 but a real annoyance on the 19, hopefully I wont notice it after running the first few hundred, not much more to add till I get at least a thousand cases on the deck, I see what everyone is saying about the trigger and all that yep it feels like a good street trigger out of the box, reset remains stronger than anything else out there with a click so pronounced you can hear it in the next room, I expect they will both run like glocks, the only curiosity for me will be this new barrel and tighter lockup, the P320 and APX have both been lasers out of the box compared to my previous gen glocks all with stock barrels so if it pulls even with them and the VP9 I'll be well stoked.

BTW I have the fed contract sights, .125 orange front on both.

I think you will be pleasantly surprised by the 5th gen glocks. They have always been reliable etc etc, but lacked in the accuracy department compared to other pistol I own and carry, IE the 320 and APX, you and I have been travelling the same road for a while..:).

I'm not saying I am a crack marksman of anything, but my 5th Gen G19, runs with my 320 and APX with ease. I could pull some good accuracy out of my other glocks, but it took more work on my part than other platforms. With the 5th Gen, I can run it with out having to do anything extra on my part. I have quite a few years carrying glocks, and the 5th gen feel like a more refined version. It still has it quirks, and Glock may be slow, but at least they are headed in the right direction.

FWIW the cutout doesn't bother me at all on the 5th gen either, due to the flare of the mag well. I hated it on the 2nd gen guns, and was the only reason I moved all of mine out. It has been a non issue with the 5th gens. That was my only initial concern when I first saw them. It has been put to rest, and I'm calling the 5th Gen GTG.

The top was at 10 yards and the bottom was about 15

https://i.imgur.com/EAtIFEC.jpg

TXPO

[RJ]

Couple questions:

I’m about to get my Gen 5 G19, and am now looking for the usual accessories. Apologies if a I missed it but generally do the Gen 5s fit in Kydex holsters made for the Gen 4?

(I would like to track down a used lefty open top range holster for USPSA, and I wanted to submit a WTB thread, but I doubt there’d be many LH Gen 5 holster options yet.)

Second, been asked already but I did not see an answer: Do the Gen 4 / previous 10 round mags work about as well in Gen 5s?

[GJM]

Couple questions:

I’m about to get my Gen 5 G19, and am now looking for the usual accessories. Apologies if a I missed it but generally do the Gen 5s fit in Kydex holsters made for the Gen 4?

(I would like to track down a used lefty open top range holster for USPSA, and I wanted to submit a WTB thread, but I doubt there’d be many LH Gen 5 holster options yet.)

Second, been asked already but I did not see an answer: Do the Gen 4 / previous 10 round mags work about as well in Gen 5s?

Fit varies by individual holster pattern, but generally an open top OWB will accommodate a G5. If not, a little filing on the right side of the holster to make room for the ambi slide stop should make it fit. My mom nderstanding is that mags interchange, with the caveat that the G5 baseplates may not work on earlier Gen 26 magazine bodies without insertion issues.

[Kyle Reese]

Another 400 rounds down the pipe of my 17.5 this morning, bringing the round count to 2625 since 1 September. I continue to be impressed with this handgun.

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[rangerover]

Just wanted to add a data point. I ran 250 rounds through my 19.5 yesterday and as others have said the cutout isn't a factor.

For those who find the cutout to be an issue on the 19.5, Pearce makes a mag extension that “fills in” the cutout. Not sure how it works but it’s out there. Glockworks has them in stock for about $9 an extension.

[matt7184]

Questions for the folks that have been running the Gen 5 17s...do you still get Glock knuckle if you don't undercut the trigger guards with the Gen 5s?

[Gio]

Questions for the folks that have been running the Gen 5 17s...do you still get Glock knuckle if you don't undercut the trigger guards with the Gen 5s?

While the full size gen4's never really gave me Glock knuckle like the 19's did, my 19M/gen5 is significantly better for not causing Glock knuckle as bad.

[GJM]

No doubt influenced by Gabe, my wife became very interested in the G5 17/19 this week. Put 250 rounds through my 19 yesterday, and a similar amount through the 17 today. No stoppages, good ejection and excellent shooting performance. I am $1,200 worse off now, thanks to friend Gabe.

[CanineCombatives]

Just ordered a couple of those pearce grip enhancers, thanks for that tip I wasnt aware of those, if it fits up perfectly to the 19.5 I'll put them on all the 15 rounders.


Texaspoff, the APX is still the frontrunner for me, and when the compact arrives I'm sure this G19.5 will switch to a dog gun just like my gen4 was, that means I wear it for K9 training when I'm going to be rolling around getting filthy :)

[STI]

You guys are a bad influence - an Ameriglo 17 may or may not be on its way ...

[rangerover]

Just ordered a couple of those pearce grip enhancers, thanks for that tip I wasnt aware of those, if it fits up perfectly to the 19.5 I'll put them on all the 15 rounders.

I believe they were made for the Gen2’s. The cutout can’t be that much different. Can it?? Please let me know how they work. I think they also make a set for the 17’s

[El Cid]

Has anyone with Gen 5 guns had to modify their Safariland ALS holsters? Can they be easily altered to accommodate the ambi slide stop lever? I own a system of them and don't really want to have to buy more just for the new guns.

https://i.imgur.com/BMiokOY_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

[PearTree]

Has anyone with Gen 5 guns had to modify their Safariland ALS holsters? Can they be easily altered to accommodate the ambi slide stop lever? I own a system of them and don't really want to have to buy more just for the new guns.

https://i.imgur.com/BMiokOY_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=mediumI have not had to do any modifications to my ALS/SLS or regular ALS holster with my issued 17m. No hands on with a gen5, but I'm assuming they would fit the same.

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[El Cid]

I have not had to do any modifications to my ALS/SLS or regular ALS holster with my issued 17m. No hands on with a gen5, but I'm assuming they would fit the same.

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That's very good news. Some Feds I know had issues with their 19M's and ALS holsters. I looked at my Gen 4 G19 and it looks like it would be an issue. Trying to meet up with one who has one to test fit. They said they asked Safariland to make holsters that are compatible.

[PearTree]

That's very good news. Some Feds I know had issues with their 19M's and ALS holsters. I looked at my Gen 4 G19 and it looks like it would be an issue. Trying to meet up with one who has one to test fit. They said they asked Safariland to make holsters that are compatible.My agency issues the safariland 6360 als/SLS level 3 with light, 7377 and 6377 als with and without light all for the Glock 17m and none have had issues that I'm aware of. Maybe the 19m safariland holsters fit differently?

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[EJO]

My gen5 G17 and G19 both fit in my patrol 6365 holster and my SRT 6354 holster. No issues at all. Both are light bearing for what it’s worth.

[GJM]

I just tried my G5/17 in a Safariland 7TS, and it is tight compared to a Gen 3/4.

[El Cid]

Stopped by my buddy's and test fit his gun with my ALS DO holster (from the pic). It works and doesn't appear to inhibit the draw. But as GIM said - it is tight. When I get a gun I'll likely try sanding down the inside where it contacts the slide stop lever. Thanks everyone.

[STI]

Dunno if it's been mentioned here already, I think the rail is something like .02" lower making the nose slightly larger than before

[El Cid]

Dunno if it's been mentioned here already, I think the rail is something like .02" lower making the nose slightly larger than before

One of the changes was going to a 1913 spec rail instead of the Glock universal rail.

[CanineCombatives]

I am very thankful for that change, all lights now interchange among platforms without having to swap out the inserts.

[Texaspoff]

Has anyone with Gen 5 guns had to modify their Safariland ALS holsters? Can they be easily altered to accommodate the ambi slide stop lever? I own a system of them and don't really want to have to buy more just for the new guns.

https://i.imgur.com/BMiokOY_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

My 19.5 fit my ALS holsters fine, but the ambi release rubbed a bit. A little heat and a little tweaking and now it has perfect clearance.

TXPO

[WobblyPossum]

Finished my 2000 round challenge. 2118 rounds total with the only stoppages being the three already mentioned during the first 600 rounds when using Magpul magazines and aluminum cased ammo. Now I just need to qualify with it so I can start carrying it off duty. Also I need a Gadget.


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[BN]

I'm going to add another G-19. I was going to get a Gen 4 and make my older Gen 3 be a backup. Is there enough magic in the gen 5 that I should get in place of the Gen 4? Advantages of the Gen 4: holsters I already have will work, I know how to work on them, Gadget. What are the advantages of the Gen 5 that I should choose it instead of the Gen 4?

[Trukinjp13]

I'm going to add another G-19. I was going to get a Gen 4 and make my older Gen 3 be a backup. Is there enough magic in the gen 5 that I should get in place of the Gen 4? Advantages of the Gen 4: holsters I already have will work, I know how to work on them, Gadget. What are the advantages of the Gen 5 that I should choose it instead of the Gen 4?

To me.
Better trigger
Feels better finger grooveless
Gen 4 holsters (slight mod for ambi release)
Gadget (hopefully coming soon!)
I get better accuracy
New finish seems better and looks good
Glock knuckle not as noticeable
Better trigger (worth mentioning twice)
Bone stock Glock just runs
No btf



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[Beat Trash]

I'm going to add another G-19. I was going to get a Gen 4 and make my older Gen 3 be a backup. Is there enough magic in the gen 5 that I should get in place of the Gen 4? Advantages of the Gen 4: holsters I already have will work, I know how to work on them, Gadget. What are the advantages of the Gen 5 that I should choose it instead of the Gen 4?

Better trigger. My stock, unfired Gen 5 trigger slightly better than other gen guns with polish job done to them.

Slightly better accuracy than my Gen 4's

No finger groves if they bother you the Gen 3-4's. (I am one of the few who doesn't have an issue with the finger groves either way.)

For me, the better trigger alone is worth it to go with the Gen 5. The slight increase in accuracy over the Gen 4's is a bonus.

I had one IWB holster made by JMCK that the right side slide stop rubbed on the holster. I heated up the area on the holster with my wife's hair dryer and using a flat head screw driver pushed out the offending lip of the holster. Modification to the holster took about 5 minutes.

[Steve m]

Question for those of you with a Gen 5 and a Gen 4. Why did you go with the Gen 5 over the Gen 4?

[M2CattleCo]

Much improved trigger. The upgraded other stuff is nice, but the trigger makes it worthwhile.

[Coal Train]

Question for those of you with a Gen 5 and a Gen 4. Why did you go with the Gen 5 over the Gen 4?
I have carried a Gen 4 for several years and picked up a Gen 5 because "new Glock." After shooting the Gen 5 a bit I prefer my Gen 4.

*The Gen 5 trigger is different but I don't know that it is better
*The Gen 5 finish is more slick and does not seem to be as durable as my older guns (at least on the barrel)
*The Gen 5 gun is slightly more difficult for me to control under recoil
*The Gen 5 seems to be slightly more mechanically accurate in slow fire but under any sort of timed drill I have more fliers with the Gen 5
*The Gen 5 in my hands has more erratic ejection than my Gen 4
*Then Gen 5 does not easily fit in most of my existing holsters

The differences between the two are slight and I could certainly live with either if it was my only option.

[Jared]

Question for those of you with a Gen 5 and a Gen 4. Why did you go with the Gen 5 over the Gen 4?

No finger grooves, better trigger. The other stuff is ok, not really a huge deal, but the removal of the finger grooves and the improved trigger feel seal it for me.

[Texaspoff]

Same here, I ran 4's for quite a while. Only complaint I ever had was the finish was easily damaged by my duty holsters. I could run them stock, but modified almost all of them, reductions, finger hump removals, etc, and a little trigger reworking. With the 5th Gens, my holsters haven't worn the finish at all. The factory 5th Gen trigger is good, better than all my 4th gen triggers, much smoother. The fingerhump removal is a good thing. fingerhumps fit my hand ok, but much prefer pistol without them. I am more accurate with my 5th gens, both in slow fire and running under speed. They fit all my duty holsters fine, had to clearance for the ambi release, but again was no big deal.

Both my 4th gen and 5th gen have been boringly reliable, not a single failure with any of them. No BTF with any of them either, both 4th and 5th.

I didn't run out and get rid of my 4th gen guns, most of them are modified to my liking anyway, but I won't be buying 4th gens any longer. The only mod I have done to my 5th gens was undercut the trigger guards. Other than that, I don't have to do anything to them to y work just as well for me.

TXPO

[john c]

I'm going to add another G-19. I was going to get a Gen 4 and make my older Gen 3 be a backup. Is there enough magic in the gen 5 that I should get in place of the Gen 4? Advantages of the Gen 4: holsters I already have will work, I know how to work on them, Gadget. What are the advantages of the Gen 5 that I should choose it instead of the Gen 4?

I've had a G19.5 for a couple of months. I've decided to sell my gen3 and gen4 pistols, and buy gen5s. The only previous generation Glock I'm keeping a gen2, for sentimental reasons. I need to caveat that I'm required to only carry bone stock Glocks, no polishing, etc. So the difference to me is noticeable and worth the difference.

[GJM]

I've had a G19.5 for a couple of months. I've decided to sell my gen3 and gen4 pistols, and buy gen5s. The only previous generation Glock I'm keeping a gen2, for sentimental reasons. I need to caveat that I'm required to only carry bone stock Glocks, no polishing, etc. So the difference to me is noticeable and worth the difference.


I agree, what distinguishes the Gen 5 is it’s ability to be run bone stock. I could easily replace all my Glock pistols with the G5 17 and 19, and a G4 26. Maybe even not the G26, if a G5/19 was cut down.

[PD Sgt.]

I agree, what distinguishes the Gen 5 is it’s ability to be run bone stock. I could easily replace all my Glock pistols with the G5 17 and 19, and a G4 26. Maybe even not the G26, if a G5/19 was cut down.

This is what I am finding as well, with the exception of the G26 which I have never been able to shoot to my satisfaction. I will probably keep a Gen 2 and Gen 3 around as loaners, but this is the first Glock I have not immediately felt the need to update with anything.

[kitten_frenzy]

Any of you use 147gr HST with your Gen 5s?

I've heard of a few people having issues with ammo that have longer OAL and a wider ogive. It's probably just some out of spec barrels but it's a bit concerning. I'll probably still buy one this week anyway hah.

https://www.glocktalk.com/threads/federal-hst-issue.1681072/

https://www.glockforum.com/threads/gen-5-19-problem.51552/ (https://www.glockforum.com/threads/gen-5-19-problem.51552/)

[Gray222]

Any of you use 147gr HST with your Gen 5s?

I've heard of a few people having issues with ammo that have longer OAL and a wider ogive. It's probably just some out of spec barrels but it's a bit concerning. I'll probably still buy one this week anyway hah.

https://www.glocktalk.com/threads/federal-hst-issue.1681072/

https://www.glockforum.com/threads/gen-5-19-problem.51552/ (https://www.glockforum.com/threads/gen-5-19-problem.51552/)

Shot about twenty the other day through a g5 19, no issues good groups.

[RJ]

Any of you use 147gr HST with your Gen 5s?

I've heard of a few people having issues with ammo that have longer OAL and a wider ogive. It's probably just some out of spec barrels but it's a bit concerning. I'll probably still buy one this week anyway hah.

https://www.glocktalk.com/threads/federal-hst-issue.1681072/

https://www.glockforum.com/threads/gen-5-19-problem.51552/ (https://www.glockforum.com/threads/gen-5-19-problem.51552/)

Out of the 150 rounds from a friend’s Gen G19 last month, I seem to recall perhaps 2 instances I had a round fail to chamber. It hung up at the feed ramp.

At the time I chalked it up to my less than enthusiastic racking of the slide.

My ammo was a mix of HST 147, GD 124, AE 124 FMJ and Freedom 115 new.

[Mike C]

Any of you use 147gr HST with your Gen 5s?

I've heard of a few people having issues with ammo that have longer OAL and a wider ogive. It's probably just some out of spec barrels but it's a bit concerning. I'll probably still buy one this week anyway hah.

https://www.glocktalk.com/threads/federal-hst-issue.1681072/

https://www.glockforum.com/threads/gen-5-19-problem.51552/ (https://www.glockforum.com/threads/gen-5-19-problem.51552/)

I can't speak to what others are experiencing but I have run 250 rounds of LE9T5 135gr +P bonded stuff and 250 rounds of P9HST2 147gr standard pressure and both of them work quite well. The P9HST2 groups amazingly well for me. I am running a gen 5 17 though not a 19 though I doubt that makes any difference.

[kitten_frenzy]

Hope you guys are right. Maybe it was just a bad reamer or something. I'll be picking it up a 19.5 Saturday :D

[Mitch]

I’ve got 100 147 gr HST through my gen 5 17 with no problems so far.


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[PensFan]

Any of you use 147gr HST with your Gen 5s?

I've heard of a few people having issues with ammo that have longer OAL and a wider ogive. It's probably just some out of spec barrels but it's a bit concerning. I'll probably still buy one this week anyway hah.

https://www.glocktalk.com/threads/federal-hst-issue.1681072/

https://www.glockforum.com/threads/gen-5-19-problem.51552/ (https://www.glockforum.com/threads/gen-5-19-problem.51552/)

Out of spec ammo most likely. Lead into rifling is tighter on the Gen5 and the chambers are SAAMI spec. More sensitive to ammo that is loaded long and out of SAAMI spec.

[Trukinjp13]

Any of you use 147gr HST with your Gen 5s?

I've heard of a few people having issues with ammo that have longer OAL and a wider ogive. It's probably just some out of spec barrels but it's a bit concerning. I'll probably still buy one this week anyway hah.

https://www.glocktalk.com/threads/federal-hst-issue.1681072/

https://www.glockforum.com/threads/gen-5-19-problem.51552/ (https://www.glockforum.com/threads/gen-5-19-problem.51552/)

Me and my friend have only ran 147 grn lawman and 147 grn hst. Never a failure. I have around 200 rounds of hst through mine and he has similar.


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[kitten_frenzy]

That's reassuring. When I get it, I'll do the plunk test with the ammo in my carry mags and call it good. Thanks!

[STI]

With this last news, I'm going to get a box each of the cheap steel ammo varieties as well as WWB and NATO seconds and function check with all those types after breaking it in on Federal 147 AE and HST. Relatively cheap peace of mind plus a fun experiment with POI/POA both elevation and windage. I want the 17 to be the boring, does everything gun I can count on for years.

[RJ]

With this last news, I'm going to get a box each of the cheap steel ammo varieties as well as WWB and NATO seconds and function check with all those types after breaking it in on Federal 147 AE and HST. Relatively cheap peace of mind plus a fun experiment with POI/POA both elevation and windage. I want the 17 to be the boring, does everything gun I can count on for years.

I’m with you.

I have a pending order with www.sgammo.com for the following try test in the 19.5 I’m purchasing shortly:

Federal American Eagle 115 grain FMJ ammo AE9DP

124 Grain FMJ Ammo by Magtech - 9B

Speer Gold Dot 124 grain Standard Pressure LE Hollow Point Ammo 53618

Sellier Bellot 115 grain FMJ ammo - SB9A

Speer Lawman 115 grain TMJ Ammo - 53650

[STI]

I’m with you.

I have a pending order with www.sgammo.com for the following try test in the 19.5 I’m purchasing shortly:

Federal American Eagle 115 grain FMJ ammo AE9DP

124 Grain FMJ Ammo by Magtech - 9B

Speer Gold Dot 124 grain Standard Pressure LE Hollow Point Ammo 53618

Sellier Bellot 115 grain FMJ ammo - SB9A

Speer Lawman 115 grain TMJ Ammo - 53650


Winner winner chicken dinner. If anyone knows of a weaker powderpuff load than Winchester White Box lemme know.

[GJM]

We have about 1,000 rounds of PMC 115 ball, which is about 129 power factor, through a G5 17 and 19 without issue. Been using Gold Dot 124+P as the JHP load, and it also works fine.

[kitten_frenzy]

I’m with you.

I have a pending order with www.sgammo.com for the following try test in the 19.5 I’m purchasing shortly:

Federal American Eagle 115 grain FMJ ammo AE9DP

124 Grain FMJ Ammo by Magtech - 9B

Speer Gold Dot 124 grain Standard Pressure LE Hollow Point Ammo 53618

Sellier Bellot 115 grain FMJ ammo - SB9A

Speer Lawman 115 grain TMJ Ammo - 53650

Doubt you'd have issue with those.
I'm more concerned about 147gr. hollowpoints. Longer OAL and larger ogive in combination with the tighter barrel dimensions and all.

[RJ]

Doubt you'd have issue with those.
I'm more concerned about 147gr. hollowpoints. Longer OAL and larger ogive in combination with the tighter barrel dimensions and all.

Agree, it’s a sample of ammo I might be buying by the case. I just want to know how it runs before placing an order.

I’ve been having some issues with severe rotator cuff tendonitus, and I believe it was exacerbated by my recent 150 rounds in a short time. My sense is the 147 gr rounds have a bit more kick to them so I think I will avoid them for training ammo.

[JSGlock34]

Doubt you'd have issue with those.
I'm more concerned about 147gr. hollowpoints. Longer OAL and larger ogive in combination with the tighter barrel dimensions and all.

FBI has run a great deal of 147 grain Speer G2 JHPs through their pistols. The 'Marksman' barrels appear optimized for the FBI duty loads to meet their accuracy requirements (or rather maximize the accuracy score during testing).

[JBP55]

Approximately 800 147gr American Eagle and 200 147+P HST plus quite a few 124gr American Eagle and 124gr HST through a Gen 5 G17 with zero issues.

[EJO]

500 rounds Winchester Ranger, 500 rounds Winchester 147 gr white box target load and 300 rounds American Eagle 147 gr though a gen5 G19 with zero malfunctions.

[Trukinjp13]

Agree, it’s a sample of ammo I might be buying by the case. I just want to know how it runs before placing an order.

I’ve been having some issues with severe rotator cuff tendonitus, and I believe it was exacerbated by my recent 150 rounds in a short time. My sense is the 147 gr rounds have a bit more kick to them so I think I will avoid them for training ammo.

I am curious to try 115 grn through her. Because she shoots pretty soft with the 147. I have switched to 147 grn for carry so I am trying to just run 147 primarily for target also. The tests I have seen I was very impressed with 147 hst.




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[kitten_frenzy]

Not sure if this is of interest to anyone else, but out of curiosity I asked Glock if they could refinish in nDLC and they said no.

"We cannot refinish in the nDLC at all. Please note that if you modify your slide it will take it out of warranty." (The slide modification is referring to RMR milling)

[Trukinjp13]

Not sure if this is of interest to anyone else, but out of curiosity I asked Glock if they could refinish in nDLC and they said no.

"We cannot refinish in the nDLC at all. Please note that if you modify your slide it will take it out of warranty." (The slide modification is referring to RMR milling)

Well shit. Thanks for that information.

But if they can not refinish it, how would they warranty it anyways???


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[kitten_frenzy]

Well shit. Thanks for that information.

But if they can not refinish it, how would they warranty it anyways???




Hah, no idea.
I was hoping to get the slide milled for an RMR and then send it in for refinishing in the factory finish, but no dice.

[Beat Trash]

I am curious to try 115 grn through her. Because she shoots pretty soft with the 147. I have switched to 147 grn for carry so I am trying to just run 147 primarily for target also. The tests I have seen I was very impressed with 147 hst.

I took my new Glock 19.5 to our range to try it out. Our current training ammunition is WWB 115 gr. The recoil impulse from this ammunition in my gun was extremely soft. I shot two magazines, one slow and one rapid with my arms locked in and watching the ejection as I shot. The ejection pattern was consistent throughout both magazines. I found this impressive as I'm not personally convinced of the QC and consistency of the WWB 115 gr loading.

[Jeep]

I took my new Glock 19.5 to our range to try it out. Our current training ammunition is WWB 115 gr. The recoil impulse from this ammunition in my gun was extremely soft. I shot two magazines, one slow and one rapid with my arms locked in and watching the ejection as I shot. The ejection pattern was consistent throughout both magazines. I found this impressive as I'm not personally convinced of the QC and consistency of the WWB 115 gr loading.

You observation on WWB is the same as mine--there seems to be a wide variability that raises questions about QC. But like your's, my Gen 5 G19 seems to eject everything fed to it consistently. It is, in my experience at least, a very impressive pistol.

[Trukinjp13]

Hah, no idea.
I was hoping to get the slide milled for an RMR and then send it in for refinishing in the factory finish, but no dice.

I have been wanting to get mine milled as well. I like the factory finish and the tone. Depressing.


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[Mr_White]

I am one week in with these Gen5 G17s, and I gotta say, I am thoroughly impressed. I'm really enjoying these.

[Mr_White]

Here's a little work from yesterday shooting a hanging tennis ball on the move with the Gen5 G17. Did pretty well walking. Running, I couldn't hit it consistently at all. The one hit on the run at the end of the video is the only one I got! On the walk it was pretty good though.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2HApzPTwOo

[kitten_frenzy]

Try cartwheels next!

[RJ]

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[Kram]

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Welcome to the darkside, Rich! Looking forward to your impressions and updates to your journal.

[PensFan]

I never understood why do people open the box upside down? :cool:

[Kyle Reese]

Another 400 rounds downrange this morning from my 17.5, bringing the total round count to 3025.

I continue to be impressed with the Generation 5 Glocks, and think that these are the best striker fired handgun extant.

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[RJ]

I never understood why do people open the box upside down? :cool:

Probably because I’m left handed. :cool:

I think I read somewhere lefties almost always flip through magazines back to front. I know I do. :)

[JHC]

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"You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile."

[LOKNLOD]

I never understood why do people open the box upside down? :cool:

It's the direction of the latches. Seriously. Most folks assumption is that latches flip up and are attached to the lid. Instead the Glock boxes flip down.

[ER_STL]

Here's a little work from yesterday shooting a hanging tennis ball on the move with the Gen5 G17. Did pretty well walking. Running, I couldn't hit it consistently at all. The one hit on the run at the end of the video is the only one I got! On the walk it was pretty good though.

Given that most people couldn't hit a tennis ball at that distance with a static stance and a two-handed grip, that was still some impressive shooting.

[RJ]

It's the direction of the latches. Seriously. Most folks assumption is that latches flip up and are attached to the lid. Instead the Glock boxes flip down.

Woah.

That is exactly what I did.

[STI]

1911 test - no mag in gun. Totally stock. Below test run during rounds 50-60 on new 17.

Alternated three rounds 147 HST, three rounds 147 American Eagle. Then 6 more HST.

All AE stovepiped, some horizontally.

All HST functioned and ejected and none fell out mag port as best as I could tell.

In total, all of the first 109 rounds on the gun were function perfect with non-troublesome ejection, ignoring the three American Eagle no-mag rounds mentioned above. I've never been this accurate at distance or able to shoot the center out of a 1" box at 7yds with a group before. I'll also say that stock Ameriglo night sights shooting the above-mentioned Federal 147 loadings were top of blade POI at every distance I could shoot them at up to the end of the 12yd indoor range. Very very happy, and will keep putting rounds through it.

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[Hambo]

It's the direction of the latches. Seriously. Most folks assumption is that latches flip up and are attached to the lid. Instead the Glock boxes flip down.

So even the box is special.

[Mr_White]

Given that most people couldn't hit a tennis ball at that distance with a static stance and a two-handed grip, that was still some impressive shooting.

Thanks! I guess to clarify my previous post, I've never been able to hit the tennis ball on the run consistently. That doesn't have anything to do with the Gen5 - it wasn't any different with Gen3. I think on the run the wobble zone is significantly bigger than the tennis ball. Walking it's doable.

[Beat Trash]

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It seems like only yesterday that you were showing us a picture of your Walther PPS. Welcome to the dark side...

[RJ]

It seems like only yesterday that you were showing us a picture of your Walther PPS. Welcome to the dark side...

I keep telling my wife, “This is the last Pistol, I promise”.

She doesn’t believe me anymore. :cool:

No, seriously I am liking the feel of the G19 Gen 5.

I did some more manipulations yesterday comparing it to my P30SK. There is not a lot of physical size difference, and hardly any weight difference, between them:

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[Totem Polar]

Thanks! I guess to clarify my previous post, I've never been able to hit the tennis ball on the run consistently. That doesn't have anything to do with the Gen5 - it wasn't any different with Gen3. I think on the run the wobble zone is significantly bigger than the tennis ball. Walking it's doable.
Can you try progressively stepping up one or two sizes to test the theory? I’d bet that by the time you got to a softball-sized whiffle ball, there’d be plastic everywhere. Besides your Glocks, I mean.


ETA: here ya go

https://www.amazon.com/Softball-Sized-Wiffle-Countertop-Display/dp/B000AOATXO

[kitten_frenzy]

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Picked mine up today.
I did the plunk test with various boxes of 147gr HST.
All fell into the chamber fine. Some wouldn't fall back out without a wiggle. These same rounds wouldn't rotate freely when in the chamber.
So far...
50 147gr HST
100 147gr FMJ Freedom Munitions (weak as hell)
100 124gr Geco (more like +p)
No issues. At 10 yards, I put 5 into one ragged hole which is good enough for me.
One thing I've noticed is that if you press on the R slide stop while pulling the trigger, you get that distinct wall before the break. If not, the wall is more vague.

Sending it out to Jagerwerks for RMR milling on Monday!

[Trukinjp13]

https://i.imgur.com/qXmeWdC.jpg
Picked mine up today.
I did the plunk test with various boxes of 147gr HST.
All fell into the chamber fine. Some wouldn't fall back out without a wiggle. These same rounds wouldn't rotate freely when in the chamber.
So far...
50 147gr HST
100 147gr FMJ Freedom Munitions (weak as hell)
100 124gr Geco (more like +p)
No issues. At 10 yards, I put 5 into one ragged hole which is good enough for me.
One thing I've noticed is that if you press on the R slide stop while pulling the trigger, you get that distinct wall before the break. If not, the wall is more vague.

Sending it out to Jagerwerks for RMR milling on Monday!

Have you used jagerworks before? Im close to igfs and was thinking of taking it to them. Still waiting on a call to tell me when I can drop it off though.....


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[kitten_frenzy]

Have you used jagerworks before? Im close to igfs and was thinking of taking it to them. Still waiting on a call to tell me when I can drop it off though.....


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Nope. This is the first time I'm getting slide work done. Currently, my RM06 is sitting on a dovetail mount on top of my G26.
Jagerwerks is the cheapest I've been able to find the specific combo I want (universal cut, dovetail in front of RMR, cover plate, black nitride refinish). I also put front radius serrations on my order... still cheaper than IGFS.
I'm indecisive as hell so I didn't want to have the slide milled for my specific RMR (like ATEI, Primary Machine). I'm hoping it doesn't matter as much with the type 2.

I just finished the 25c trigger job and threw in a reduced power FPSP spring. Significantly better than my 26.4 and on par with my 19.3. Love this thing!
Edit: just used a scale on the trigger. 4.75lb when pulled from the bottom.

[Mr_White]

Can you try progressively stepping up one or two sizes to test the theory? I’d bet that by the time you got to a softball-sized whiffle ball, there’d be plastic everywhere. Besides your Glocks, I mean.


ETA: here ya go

https://www.amazon.com/Softball-Sized-Wiffle-Countertop-Display/dp/B000AOATXO

I would think the wiffle balls would break into bits too. Tennis ball stays together. I could just move closer to change the proportion instead of sticking with seven yards like I have, since there's no debris issue with tennis balls.
Or do an experiment with the SIRT on continuous discharge to more easily observe the wobble zone.

[Trukinjp13]

Nope. This is the first time I'm getting slide work done. Currently, my RM06 is sitting on a dovetail mount on top of my G26.
Jagerwerks is the cheapest I've been able to find the specific combo I want (universal cut, dovetail in front of RMR, cover plate, black nitride refinish). I also put front radius serrations on my order... still cheaper than IGFS.
I'm indecisive as hell so I didn't want to have the slide milled for my specific RMR (like ATEI, Primary Machine). I'm hoping it doesn't matter as much with the type 2.

I just finished the 25c trigger job and threw in a reduced power FPSP spring. Significantly better than my 26.4 and on par with my 19.3. Love this thing!
Edit: just used a scale on the trigger. 4.75lb when pulled from the bottom.

Gotcha. Atei does a universal rmr cut. Igfs is a decent drive from my house and seemed like good pricing for a mill. I am not getting a refinish though. And dovetail in factory spot.


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[CDFIII]

I would think the wiffle balls would break into bits too. Tennis ball stays together. I could just move closer to change the proportion instead of sticking with seven yards like I have, since there's no debris issue with tennis balls.
Or do an experiment with the SIRT on continuous discharge to more easily observe the wobble zone.

They actually make bigger tennis balls for dogs. I think any local chain pet store would have them. I have a few softball sized ones laying around for my GS.

[Mike C]

Or do an experiment with the SIRT on continuous discharge to more easily observe the wobble zone.

Mr_White that is an awesome idea. Have you done this before with other types of movement for dry fire?

[kitten_frenzy]

Gotcha. Atei does a universal rmr cut. Igfs is a decent drive from my house and seemed like good pricing for a mill. I am not getting a refinish though. And dovetail in factory spot.


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How are you going to prevent it from rusting?

[Trukinjp13]

How are you going to prevent it from rusting?

Bluing seems to work well. I have also been told of a coating/paint you can put on. (Can not remember name)Its just bare metal. Also its covered and sealed once coated.


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[Mr_White]

Mr_White that is an awesome idea. Have you done this before with other types of movement for dry fire?

I've done it before, but it has been so long I am fuzzy on the exact results. There is a demo I do in one particular class where I use a blue gun with laser grips to show the wobble zone while I move all tall and clompy to make this giant spastic wobble zone, compared to a tight one with low gliding smooth steps. The latter is good for a maybe a palm size area at 7 yards or a tad bigger. I think running it's good for about an 8 inch circle or thereabouts. It would make a good video illustration though, maybe I should do that.

[Mike C]

I've done it before, but it has been so long I am fuzzy on the exact results. There is a demo I do in one particular class where I use a blue gun with laser grips to show the wobble zone while I move all tall and clompy to make this giant spastic wobble zone, compared to a tight one with low gliding smooth steps. The latter is good for a maybe a palm size area at 7 yards or a tad bigger. I think running it's good for about an 8 inch circle or thereabouts. It would make a good video illustration though, maybe I should do that.

I was thinking this would be good for demo purposes but mainly I am thinking about when I couldn't get to an outdoor range where I can really move. Feed back while shooting on the move without having to be at the outdoor club, (obviously there is no full substitution for live fire but this could be a great training aid). It looks like my excuse of not having a Sirt or weapon mounted laser for my semi autos just got blown out of the water. I think I am going to have to play with this, hopefully it doesn't have any negative effects. I do recall your carry position comparison video, were you using a Sirt pistol for that or a laser with a constant on? It is crazy I have never thought of incorporating movement with a laser for dry practice I've done a fair bit of dry fire before with my J frames using the laser as feedback for the trigger work but the movement never crossed my mind. Thank you for the great idea Gabe!

[Mr_White]

That Rule 2 Comparison video was with the SIRT with the trigger taped back so the laser stayed on, and for the purpose of that video, it was also important that the laser came out of the bore and let the gun fit in the holster.

For observing or practicing shooting on the move, I think there are a few moving parts there. If you just want a laser to illustrate the wobble zone visually, the cheapest thing to do is get a couple dollar laser pointer and tape it onto the gun. Once you get a sense of the wobble zone though, if you are practicing shooting on the move with iron sights, I think you are going to need to pay attention to the iron sights. Maybe you can also pay attention to the laser but I tend to think you'll want to get it out of there except for initial or periodic looks at your wobble zone.

[RJ]

Lefty specific question: Should I consider swapping the mag release over? Do Glocks have any issues with this?

I use the slide stop on the right hand of the slide a lot to lock back, something I liked about the Gen 5.

Normally I use my left hand middle finger to hit the mag release after changing my grip. Sub optimal I know but it works for me I guess. I’ve gotten used to right handed pistols. I even did this on my VP9.

Just looking for thoughts to steer me in the right direction as it relates to this Gen 5. Absent advice, I guess I’ll swap it over and see if I can make it work with my thumb.

[Mr_White]

Lefty specific question: Should I consider swapping the mag release over? Do Glocks have any issues with this?

I use the slide stop on the right hand of the slide a lot to lock back, something I liked about the Gen 5.

Normally I use my left hand middle finger to hit the mag release after changing my grip. Sub optimal I know but it works for me I guess. I’ve gotten used to right handed pistols. I even did this on my VP9.

Just looking for thoughts to steer me in the right direction as it relates to this Gen 5. Absent advice, I guess I’ll swap it over and see if I can make it work with my thumb.

I would. It's certainly worth trying, and easy to change back if you don't like it.

[Beat Trash]

Rich, it's stupid easy to switch out. So I would give it a try.

When my agency switched to the M&P pistol from the 5046's several of our left handed officers had the magazine release button switched over on their new M&P's, because they could. About 75% of them switched back because when under stress of training, the button was in the "wrong place". Too much time with muscle memory dealing with things. New left hand showers who have their gun switched from day one prefer using their thumb.

So I would try switching out the magazine release and try it for a couple of shooting sessions. You can always change it back if you want.

[JTPHD]

I am one week in with these Gen5 G17s, and I gotta say, I am thoroughly impressed. I'm really enjoying these.

Gabe, have you noticed any performance differences as a dedicated G34 user transitioning to a 17? Do you have a preference for one over the other?

[JTPHD]

Lefty specific question: Should I consider swapping the mag release over? Do Glocks have any issues with this?

I use the slide stop on the right hand of the slide a lot to lock back, something I liked about the Gen 5.

Normally I use my left hand middle finger to hit the mag release after changing my grip. Sub optimal I know but it works for me I guess. I’ve gotten used to right handed pistols. I even did this on my VP9.

Just looking for thoughts to steer me in the right direction as it relates to this Gen 5. Absent advice, I guess I’ll swap it over and see if I can make it work with my thumb.

Rich, as a fellow lefty, I leave all of my mag releases on the left side. Unless there are dexterity concerns, your reloads will be just as fast as a RH shooter. With the Glocks Gen4s, I initially had more issues with the slight ledge on the left side of the magazine tube getting caught on the frame more than where the mag release is located (corrected with dry fire). My suggestion is to grab a shot timer and video your reloads before spending time switching parts.

[Mr_White]

Gabe, have you noticed any performance differences as a dedicated G34 user transitioning to a 17? Do you have a preference for one over the other?

The Gen 5 has a definitively better grip texture to me than the Gen 3.

The semi extended mag catch on my Gen 3 is a little better than the standard on the Gen 5, but hopefully I can get an extended for the 5.

The mag well on the 5 is hands down better than the 3.

The big difference is the trigger. In the Gen 3, I had a minus connector and 5 lb striker spring, and the Gen 5 is stock, but with a pretty darn nice stock trigger. That's definitely more challenging, though it's still not what I'd consider a difficult trigger. I probably can pull the easier one a little better and more consistently, but I'm doing lots of dry practice centered on trigger work with the 5.

I'm definitely not as deeply attuned to the 5 as the 3 but it's coming right along. And it's worth recognizing that all these posts, desire to discuss, and most importantly desire to practice, is coming from the excitement of working with the 5. So right now the 5 is just the ticket.

[JTPHD]

Thanks for your response, Gabe. I always appreciate your insight and observations. I've been eyeing a 34.4, but I like the idea that a Gen 5 provides more of a rolling break with a stock trigger. Ultimately, I'll probably end up buying both to compare for a few months.

[GJM]

My wife’s G5 17 and 19 with Ameriglo sights arrived today. Both pistols had their rear sight slightly offset right. More on that later.

Took them to the range, and my wife pulled them out of the boxes and started shooting as is. This was her first group with the 17 at 20 yards with PMC 115.

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Then she repeated the same at 25 yards.

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Then she shot five rounds of 124 Gold Dot +P at 17 and 22 yards.

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Then she shot the 19 at 17 yards.

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Then she shot Gold Dot out of the 19.

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Then she shot the 17 at 40 yards, applying some Kentucky windage by holding left side of the head.

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She proclaimed both pistols, but especially the 17 to be absolute lasers, giving her confidence to shoot heads at longer distances than her other Glock pistols with iron sights. She loves the Ameriglo sights. She is a left handed shooter and I will center the rear sights on both pistols. Gabe commented his pistols had rear sights slightly right and we wonder whether Glock is setting them up for right hand shooters. :)

Glock sure seems to have done it right with the G5 pistols!

PS: the darn software has the orientation off, but know she shot the targets as you would expect!

[EricM]

Rich_Jenkins - One other consideration is your grip and whether there's any chance of that interfering with the mag release if you leave it on the left side. Specifically where the middle finger of your left hand passes under the button, though potentially also where the tips of your right hand index and middle fingers end up, depending on your grip. I'm a lefty and a PX4 or M&P 2.0 is an absolute no-go for me without reversing the mag release, hard to even get through a mag without inadvertently dropping it. That said, I don't specifically recall encountering that problem with a Glock...my Gen 4/5s are currently reversed, but I have a few Gen 3s too and haven't had an issue (though I also do not run extended mag releases on the Gen 3s). Just something to check. However unlikely it may be, also consider while in the holster whether the mag release would be more likely to be accidentally bumped by something on your body side or in the outside world.

[RJ]

Rich_Jenkins - One other consideration is your grip and whether there's any chance of that interfering with the mag release if you leave it on the left side. Specifically where the middle finger of your left hand passes under the button, though potentially also where the tips of your right hand index and middle fingers end up, depending on your grip. I'm a lefty and a PX4 or M&P 2.0 is an absolute no-go for me without reversing the mag release, hard to even get through a mag without inadvertently dropping it. That said, I don't specifically recall encountering that problem with a Glock...my Gen 4/5s are currently reversed, but I have a few Gen 3s too and haven't had an issue (though I also do not run extended mag releases on the Gen 3s). Just something to check. However unlikely it may be, also consider while in the holster whether the mag release would be more likely to be accidentally bumped by something on your body side or in the outside world.

Thanks.

I tried my right hand and using the thumb to release the mag.

(Thinking being well if my right hand could do it, my left hand being similar I could determine this without swapping the release twice)

No go. My Marco Rubio hands can’t reach the release. So I think I’ll just keep the release on the left side and get on with life.

That’s a good point about bumping the release as a lefty. That happened twice to me with my Walther PPS M2. As you know it’s non swappable.

[psalms144.1]

First range session for me today (I know I swore I'd wait a year or two, but you all jedi mind tricked me). Thoughts and observations:

1. Accuracy - shoots SLIGHTLY tighter than my Gen4 G19, when I don't yank the trigger
2. Sights - I got the Ameriglos, because, you know, Ameriglo! I think I prefer the Proglo Yellow Square front/Amber Operator rear set on my Gen4 - there's a LOT of light on either side of that front sight for my tastes. At 15 and 25 yards, I found myself "fishing" in the rear sight window trying to get the front centered. Mine are also clearly regulated for 147s, our issued 124+P equivalent ball shot LOW at 25 yards - VERY low. Also, first head shots with the new pistol were perfectly centered in the head box - exactly where I wanted them. I thought - "Wow, finally a Glock that doesn't shoot left!" Then I checked the rear sight and saw that the good folks at Smyrna had already placed a pretty noticeable right lean on the sights for me...
3. Grip cut out - absolutely no issue for me
4. Ambi slide release - I'd get rid of it if I could. I had two instances of premature slide lock back from my strong hand "leaning" on the bottom of it with a high grip. Both on the first round out of a magazine - my hand might still be extra "high" because of my high "feel steel" index until sights are on target
5. Trigger - love the "rolling break," wish it were a tiny bit heavier. When doing full speed runs from the holster at close range, I had one "wow that was early" discharge (sights on target, but thought I was just starting the trigger press) - of course, this was shooting with gloves.
6. Reliability - 300 rounds, no issues, straight out of the box.
7. Ejection - consistent and reliable WITH THE GEN5 MAGAZINES. Using some earlier G17 magazines, I had four or five ejections which were wonky - one HARD into my eye pro, one to the left, the rest onto my right forearm or shoulder.

All in all, a decent pistol. A couple hundred more rounds through it with duty ammo and I'll probably retire my now 5-year-old Gen4 to "training gun" standing.

[GJM]

2163121632I centered the rear sight on my wife’s G5 17 and 19 this morning, and we got to the range this afternoon. That did the trick, and now the pistols are POA/POI. Here is her 19 with five shots each at 15 and 20 yards.

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This is her 17 at 40 yards with one shot called left.

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One thing she did notice was her trigger finger was sore, she thinks from the trigger safety, something she doesn’t experience with her G3/4 pistols. Anyone else experiencing this?

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I shot my G5 17 with HD sights, and it is dead on at 25 yards with Gold Dot 124+P. All our G5 pistols eject forcefully, and have been 100 percent reliable so far.

[spinmove_]

2163121632I centered the rear sight on my wife’s G5 17 and 19 this morning, and we got to the range this afternoon. That did the trick, and now the pistols are POA/POI. Here is her 19 with five shots each at 15 and 20 yards.

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This is her 17 at 40 yards with one shot called left.

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One thing she did notice was her trigger finger was sore, she thinks from the trigger safety, something she doesn’t experience with her G3/4 pistols. Anyone else experiencing this?

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I shot my G5 17 with HD sights, and it is dead on at 25 yards with Gold Dot 124+P. All our G5 pistols eject forcefully, and have been 100 percent reliable so far.

I get the Glock trigger safety indent on my trigger finger from every single Glock I’ve ever fired. I have somewhat of a light callous built up there from having worked with it so much. It does wear on me after a while though.

EDIT: If I'm being completely honest. With a Glock, there's a number of high wear points on my hand that have become "hot spots" during my time working with the platform. "Glock knuckle" being the most prominent. Then there's the trigger dingus indent on my trigger finger. Next there's a wear point/callous at the base of my thumb that gets some "love" after more extended sessions as well. If I'm doing a lot of dry fire during the week, I start to feel it there as well. The Glock is a great pistol, but dammit if it doesn't physically wear on me after a while due to how my hands fit the gun.


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[JBP55]

First range session for me today (I know I swore I'd wait a year or two, but you all jedi mind tricked me). Thoughts and observations:

1. Accuracy - shoots SLIGHTLY tighter than my Gen4 G19, when I don't yank the trigger
2. Sights - I got the Ameriglos, because, you know, Ameriglo! I think I prefer the Proglo Yellow Square front/Amber Operator rear set on my Gen4 - there's a LOT of light on either side of that front sight for my tastes. At 15 and 25 yards, I found myself "fishing" in the rear sight window trying to get the front centered. Mine are also clearly regulated for 147s, our issued 124+P equivalent ball shot LOW at 25 yards - VERY low. Also, first head shots with the new pistol were perfectly centered in the head box - exactly where I wanted them. I thought - "Wow, finally a Glock that doesn't shoot left!" Then I checked the rear sight and saw that the good folks at Smyrna had already placed a pretty noticeable right lean on the sights for me...
3. Grip cut out - absolutely no issue for me
4. Ambi slide release - I'd get rid of it if I could. I had two instances of premature slide lock back from my strong hand "leaning" on the bottom of it with a high grip. Both on the first round out of a magazine - my hand might still be extra "high" because of my high "feel steel" index until sights are on target
5. Trigger - love the "rolling break," wish it were a tiny bit heavier. When doing full speed runs from the holster at close range, I had one "wow that was early" discharge (sights on target, but thought I was just starting the trigger press) - of course, this was shooting with gloves.
6. Reliability - 300 rounds, no issues, straight out of the box.
7. Ejection - consistent and reliable WITH THE GEN5 MAGAZINES. Using some earlier G17 magazines, I had four or five ejections which were wonky - one HARD into my eye pro, one to the left, the rest onto my right forearm or shoulder.

All in all, a decent pistol. A couple hundred more rounds through it with duty ammo and I'll probably retire my now 5-year-old Gen4 to "training gun" standing.

#5. As you know replacing your connector with an OEM 5.5# connector will add approximately 8oz. to the trigger pull weight.

[Mitch]

I shot my G5 17 with HD sights, and it is dead on at 25 yards with Gold Dot 124+P. All our G5 pistols eject forcefully, and have been 100 percent reliable so far.

I've had the exact same experience with my Gen 5 17. 100% reliable and ejection greatly improved from the Gen 4s I had. Shoots POA/POI to the tip of the front sight (Trijicon HDs) at 25 yards with 124 +P Gold Dot and is retarded accurate. Seems to like 115 Lawman and 124 +p gold dots more than 147 gr ammo, but all quality ammo I've tried has grouped well. Russian steel case has been reliable but not very accurate at 25 yards. Whatever, it's cheap shit so I won't hold that against the gun. Once I finish up my last case of that stuff I doubt I'll buy any more.

My next purchase will be a Gen 5 19. I hope it shoots 147 gr HST as well as my 17 shoots the gold dots (mostly because I have a decent stock of it), but as long as the 19 is as reliable and accurate as my 17 I'll be extremely happy. At that point the Gen 5s will be pretty much all I can ask for in a carry gun.

[STI]

Tore down the G5G17 and G3G26 side by side tonight because engineer.

Notes:

Rear pin is noticeably plastic and lightweight on G5. Further examination shows G3 is likely plastic too, just G5 feels really lame. Dunno what to say besides it was noticeable. Didn't try to cross swap G3 and G5 unfortunately.

95% confident trigger shoe is identical, some simple measurements confirm it. The pin to the trigger bar has a different, brighter finish on G5. Hopefully lower friction coating?

Break of G17G5 with NP3 minus connector felt more spongey and worse than the stock G5 connector. Put stock G5 connector back in.

Slide racking force felt significantly lower with G17G5. Breech face travel to frame stops was 0.18 more than G26G3. Dunno if that's a normal 17 to 26 thing?

You really can't put G17G5 slide back on unless you push the firing pin towards the the breech face and depress the firing pin block safety.

It's significantly more difficult to press the G5 trigger/recoil block pin back into the frame compared to the G3. Holding the new ambi slide release down while pressing the trigger pin back in helps.

That's about all for now.

[kitten_frenzy]

It took about two hours, but I finally got the crisp break I like with all stock parts (except for the lighter FPSP spring). 4lb 9 oz when pulled from the bottom.
Risky, especially since spare parts aren't available yet, but now I'm finally happy with it.

[Bucky]

One thing she did notice was her trigger finger was sore, she thinks from the trigger safety, something she doesn’t experience with her G3/4 pistols. Anyone else experiencing this?


It certainly seems at some point, Glock trigger safeties became more uncomfortable. Perhaps they're using a new mold?? My older Glocks don't bother me, but my newer models, including Gen 4s and a real late model Gen 3, seem to need the corners broken on them before any long time range sessions.

Just my experience / observation for what it's worth. :)

[JBP55]

It certainly seems at some point, Glock trigger safeties became more uncomfortable. Perhaps they're using a new mold?? My older Glocks don't bother me, but my newer models, including Gen 4s and a real late model Gen 3, seem to need the corners broken on them before any long time range sessions.

Just my experience / observation for what it's worth. :)

Easy to fix in a few minutes with emery cloth or a pocket knife.

[Bucky]

Easy to fix in a few minutes with emery cloth or a pocket knife.

True. And I have. But still...

[GJM]

Definite roughness on all of our G5 pistols. Understand there is a new mold. Took some light abrasive to the face of the trigger safety, and all seems well now.

[Mike C]

Definite roughness on all of our G5 pistols. Understand there is a new mold. Took some light abrasive to the face of the trigger safety, and all seems well now.

I thought it was just me, you aren't at all concerned about the disengagement of the safety? The tab is definitely rough and is causing a callous to build as a result. It is almost as if it juts out just a smidge too far.

[spinmove_]

I thought it was just me, you aren't at all concerned about the disengagement of the safety? The tab is definitely rough and is causing a callous to build as a result. It is almost as if it juts out just a smidge too far.

I’ve had to take some sandpaper to my smooth faced triggers as well just to tone down the sharp edges on the trigger tab. I’m considering taking sandpaper to it again to reduce how much that tab juts out from the trigger face. Going through one magazine like that isn’t bad. Going through 100 rounds or more starts tenderizing the meat beneath the skin.

My G17 Gen2 doesn’t seem to have this problem. Something tells me it either received the same treatment during its PD days or Glock changed the molds at some point.


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[Mr_White]

Definite roughness on all of our G5 pistols. Understand there is a new mold. Took some light abrasive to the face of the trigger safety, and all seems well now.


I thought it was just me, you aren't at all concerned about the disengagement of the safety? The tab is definitely rough and is causing a callous to build as a result. It is almost as if it juts out just a smidge too far.

I have been noticing this a little too. Compared my Gen5 G17 to a Gen3 G34 last night and with the trigger held all the way to the rear, the safety on the trigger is sticking out a tiny bit further on the Gen5. My hands are covered with calluses already, so I don't think I care.

[STI]

Is there any good practice for "barrel break-in" on a new Glock?

[Larry Sellers]

Is there any good practice for "barrel break-in" on a new Glock?Not sure if serious.....

Shoot it?

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[STI]

Not sure if serious.....

Shoot it?

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Put it in "air quotes" because I really don't know, plus I generally buy used guns and I don't wanna do things any more wrong than I have to. Make all the fun of me you want :)

Second case coming so I'll take your good advice!

[Larry Sellers]

Put it in "air quotes" because I really don't know, plus I generally buy used guns and I don't wanna do things any more wrong than I have to. Make all the fun of me you want :)

Second case coming so I'll take your good advice!Shoot it, you'll be glad you did!!

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[Mike C]

I have been noticing this a little too. Compared my Gen5 G17 to a Gen3 G34 last night and with the trigger held all the way to the rear, the safety on the trigger is sticking out a tiny bit further on the Gen5. My hands are covered with calluses already, so I don't think I care.

That's what I get for riding the cushy HK train for so long. No calluses, :(. The gun is still sweet though despite my minuscule gripe, I will definitely be picking up a few more of them. Glock smashed it out of the park with these ones. They are just excellent in every way really, they are so good they make me look like I can actually shoot worth a crap. I'm hitting some of my fasted reloads, bills, F2S, F.A.S.T. and other PR's with the G5. Even despite working with a TDA gun in my spare time which I find absolutely shocking. I am finding the Gen5 trigger to be much more forgiving of error in trigger press than previous models. Not sure if it is the trigger characteristics or an over all improvement in me. It's always great to pick something up that sparks a serious interest and breaks you out of the rut, which I have been sitting in for some time. It does not at all surprise me to seeing these guns getting such favorable marks with everyone who spends time with them.

[Gio]

I have been noticing this a little too. Compared my Gen5 G17 to a Gen3 G34 last night and with the trigger held all the way to the rear, the safety on the trigger is sticking out a tiny bit further on the Gen5. My hands are covered with calluses already, so I
don't think I care.

I have not found the same to be true on my M's. I don't have a gen5 to compare to, but I wonder if the gen5's and M's have a different mold for the trigger shoe.

[RJ]

I’m glad you guys said something about the trigger.

I looked at mine after Dry Practice. The safety *was* a bit proud of the trigger face. I really didn’t want to remove any material but I slowly rubbed it with 220 grit paper and that seemed enough to break whatever corner or edge I was feeling. Much better now.

[matt7184]

I have been noticing this a little too. Compared my Gen5 G17 to a Gen3 G34 last night and with the trigger held all the way to the rear, the safety on the trigger is sticking out a tiny bit further on the Gen5. My hands are covered with calluses already, so I don't think I care.

Same experience for me. Took a bunch of G5 17 out of a dealers stock to see which was worse but they were all equally bad in regards to the dingus compared to the Gen 3s and 4s.

[Mitch]

I’ve honestly not noticed anything on my trigger, but BJJ has destroyed my fingers so I️ may not be the best person to comment on it.


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[Mr_White]

I have been noticing this a little too. Compared my Gen5 G17 to a Gen3 G34 last night and with the trigger held all the way to the rear, the safety on the trigger is sticking out a tiny bit further on the Gen5. My hands are covered with calluses already, so I don't think I care.


Same experience for me. Took a bunch of G5 17 out of a dealers stock to see which was worse but they were all equally bad in regards to the dingus compared to the Gen 3s and 4s.


I have not found the same to be true on my M's. I don't have a gen5 to compare to, but I wonder if the gen5's and M's have a different mold for the trigger shoe.

I didn't say that very well - what I really meant was that I could feel the safety on the Gen5, more than on the Gen3, when I held the trigger all the way to the rear. I couldn't tell any difference by looking. And it's a non-issue for me.


That's what I get for riding the cushy HK train for so long. No calluses, :(. The gun is still sweet though despite my minuscule gripe, I will definitely be picking up a few more of them. Glock smashed it out of the park with these ones. They are just excellent in every way really, they are so good they make me look like I can actually shoot worth a crap. I'm hitting some of my fasted reloads, bills, F2S, F.A.S.T. and other PR's with the G5. Even despite working with a TDA gun in my spare time which I find absolutely shocking. I am finding the Gen5 trigger to be much more forgiving of error in trigger press than previous models. Not sure if it is the trigger characteristics or an over all improvement in me. It's always great to pick something up that sparks a serious interest and breaks you out of the rut, which I have been sitting in for some time. It does not at all surprise me to seeing these guns getting such favorable marks with everyone who spends time with them.

Gotta agree with you Mike! I really like these guns.

[Steve m]

How is the holster fit with the Gen 5, are y'all having to modify your existing holsters to fit?

[Texaspoff]

How is the holster fit with the Gen 5, are y'all having to modify your existing holsters to fit?

I had to work over all of my duty and off duty holsters, they are all kydex and have a snug fit. Just had to heat a little area on the right side to clear the ambi slide release. Now the gun would work in all of them without the modification, but I gave it a little clearance so as not to touch the slide release. It was my OCD kicking in about rubbing the finish off. :)

TXPO

[psalms144.1]

How is the holster fit with the Gen 5, are y'all having to modify your existing holsters to fit?Here's what works and doesn't for me:

No problems:
X-Concealment model "C"
Alessi CQC
Mitch Rosen 5JR Express
Safariland ALS with light
Serpa (don't judge - it was issued!)
FIST IWB #1K (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1K)

Problems:
Safariland ALS NO LIGHT - right side slide release drags slightly both holstering and drawing on the lining of the holster - workable, and looks like it would "wear in" fine
JMCK IWB#3 - OLDER MODEL - holsters with slight resistance from right side slide release lever, and lever catches on the "lip" of the mounting hardware "hump" on draw. I understand Tony's molding all his GLOCK kydex now to accommodate the right hand slide release

[Trukinjp13]

I also did not really notice the dingus. But I am a mechanic and my fingers get pretty beat up daily. Also no shooting mine for a bit. Slide is in route to atei. I am debating a second 19.5 if I can swing it.

I really like this gun.


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[RJ]

How is the holster fit with the Gen 5, are y'all having to modify your existing holsters to fit?

My LH Blade Tech OWB Range Holster has no issues. Mitch Rosen indicated their leather Upper Limit OWB Holster had no issues for the Gen 5.

[Steve m]

Thanks to all for the replies,
For my Gen4/3 G-19's I currently use JMCK AIWB Claw 2.5m, regular AIWB as well as a raven concealement and Ghost/x-concealement for IDPA. I don't want to mess up my holsters by dremeling on them.

[Tony Mayer]

Thanks to all for the replies,
For my Gen4/3 G-19's I currently use JMCK AIWB Claw 2.5m, regular AIWB as well as a raven concealement and Ghost/x-concealement for IDPA. I don't want to mess up my holsters by dremeling on them.

Steve m, you can send the holster back to me with $15.00 in the box and I can adjust it to fit your Gen 5. Thanks

[kitten_frenzy]

I had to work over all of my duty and off duty holsters, they are all kydex and have a snug fit. Just had to heat a little area on the right side to clear the ambi slide release. Now the gun would work in all of them without the modification, but I gave it a little clearance so as not to touch the slide release. It was my OCD kicking in about rubbing the finish off. :)

TXPO

The finish on mine have completely worn off already. I think the finish lasted about 1 day lol.

[Kyle Reese]

Is there any good practice for "barrel break-in" on a new Glock?Shoot it and run a bore snake through it once or twice a year?

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[Beat Trash]

Thanks to all for the replies,
For my Gen4/3 G-19's I currently use JMCK AIWB Claw 2.5m, regular AIWB as well as a raven concealement and Ghost/x-concealement for IDPA. I don't want to mess up my holsters by dremeling on them.

I have a JMAK IWB #3 that the right side slide release would hand up ever so slightly on the lip of the holster. I took a large common screwdriver and my wife's hair dryer. Putting the hair dryer on high, i heated up the spot on the holster where the slide release was hitting the holster. Laying the holster on a flat surface, I then used the flat part of the screw driver to press out the portion of the holster that needs modification. Took about 5 minutes to fix and you can not tell by looking at the holster that it's been modified.

Tony is willing to alter his holsters for $15, which is an excellent example of customer service. I'm sure that a large portion of the $15 is just to cover the cost of return shipping. I decided not to take Tony up on the offer and send my holster in to be modified only because I use this holster daily. And I didn't want to be without it for a week or two until I got it back from him.

I also own an OWB #1 from JMAK. It did not need any modification when I inserted my new Glock 19.5.

[Caesar]

I held out as long as I could but my resistance was futile. I bought a 19.5 with the Ameriglo sights today. Like any respectable pistol forum member, I applied some lube and went to the range. I shot 300 rounds of a mixture of Winchester White Box and Blazer 115 gr. No stoppages, malfunctions, or btfs but did have a few cases with weak ejection. The dribblers were with the Blazer rds that felt like real powder puffs.

Trigger pull felt a little heavier compared to my g19 gen4’s with minus connectors and gen 3 triggers when dry firing but noticed no practical differences when shooting. The cut out on the front strap didn’t bother me when shooting which was nice since i can feel it otherwise.

Accuracy was excellent for a plastic gun with no soul. Inside 25 yards, rounds hit where I put the dot on the front sight.

I’m a lefty and feel the gun industry, until relatively recently, has discriminated against left handed shooters forcing me to shoot right handed guns (I need a safe place ��). So I’ll need some reps to get used to the slide release/stop on the right side. I had one instance of the slide not locking back due to my grip. Nevertheless, I look forward to not having to release the slide with the index finger of my support hand.

Between the gun store and the range, I went to Academy to buy ammo. With a loaded mag and empty chamber, I comfortably Mexican carried through the store. The crease in my crotch greatly preferred the bevel on the front of the slide versus the blocky previous generations.

Overall, it’s an excellent gun and surpassed my expectations.

[pangloss]

I bought a 19.5 with the Ameriglo sights (0.140" wide front) earlier this week using my GSSF purchase coupon. Today I took it to the range for the first time and shot 180 rounds of Aguila 124 gr and 20 rounds of Speer 124 gr +P Gold Dots. The ejection from my pistol is extraordinarily uniform. Empties always go to 4:00, except for the last round out of the mag that goes in a high arc to 5:00. I like the trigger on this pistol much more than my Gen 2/3/4 guns. The older guns seem like bad copies of Gen5 pistols, even though I was completely satisfied with my Gen4 pistols up until this morning. I was at the public range so all shooting had to be from 7 yards, as getting the other shooters there to move back to 15 or 25 would have been impossible. At 7 yards with these loads, POA is POI at the top of the sight. I'm extremely pleased and will probably set about selling some Gen3/4 guns to fund more Gen5's if I still like the pistol this much after another few hundred rounds.

I recently bought a G43, and if I hadn't, I might not have bothered with the Gen5 pistol. However, once I found out how much I liked the G43 and then saw that the Gen5 pistols basically have a G43 trigger (at least as regards the striker block safety geometry), getting the Gen5 seemed like the obvious thing to do.

EDIT: The pistol fits perfectly in my new Dark Star Gear holster. It also fits in the Mastermind Tactics AIWB that I received via one of the Karma threads. It fits in my Fricke Archangel, but the right side slide lock rubs pretty hard against the holster. I need to dremel out a tiny bit of material. I also have an AIWB holster from KSG Armory that the pistol fits in, but it just doesn't seem right. I'm not sure what the problem is. Similarly, the OWB Blade-Tech that I have for IDPA matches doesn't seem to fit properly. It'll hold the pistol, but it's hard to get the pistol in and out.

[JBP55]

Pangloss, Compare the height of the Gen 5 slide to the Gen 4 slide. Could possibly be the issue with some holsters.

[pangloss]

Pangloss, Compare the height of the Gen 5 slide to the Gen 4 slide. Could possibly be the issue with some holsters.

I measured a 19.4 at the point where the rail starts (nearest the trigger). According to my cheap caliper, the distance from the bottom of the dust cover to the top of the slide at this point is 1.544". The same spot on the 19.5 measures 1.574". I guess 0.03" in a tightly fitted holster is enough to make a difference. Thanks for the suggestion to take that measurement, JBP55.

[TheNewbie]

Here's what works and doesn't for me:

No problems:
X-Concealment model "C"
Alessi CQC
Mitch Rosen 5JR Express
Safariland ALS with light
Serpa (don't judge - it was issued!)
FIST IWB #1K (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1K)

Problems:
Safariland ALS NO LIGHT - right side slide release drags slightly both holstering and drawing on the lining of the holster - workable, and looks like it would "wear in" fine
JMCK IWB#3 - OLDER MODEL - holsters with slight resistance from right side slide release lever, and lever catches on the "lip" of the mounting hardware "hump" on draw. I understand Tony's molding all his GLOCK kydex now to accommodate the right hand slide release


Is the ALS a 6360? I wonder how the new 7ts models would work.

[STI]

Another 200 rounds of 147 AE through.

One more 1911 ejection test, this time a full 18 rounds fired no mag. One stovepipe, two ejected down magwell, one ejected into my forehead, and the other 14 ejected normally.

[HCM]

Is there any good practice for "barrel break-in" on a new Glock?

No barrel break in is only a thing in the long range precision rifle world an even there it is divisive.

Basically some barrel makers recommend a break in procedure and some don't. Those that don't, claim barrels which require a break in procudure are not fully lapped / finished - basically saying those barrel makers who recommend breaking periods are trying to get the customer to do their job by final finishing the bore via a kabuki dance break in procedure.

None of which has any application to pistols, service rifles or hunting rifles, just shoot them.

[psalms144.1]

Is the ALS a 6360? I wonder how the new 7ts models would work.

The light bearing holster is a 6377. Non light bearing is a 6378

[kitten_frenzy]

Another 200 rounds of 147 AE through.

One more 1911 ejection test, this time a full 18 rounds fired no mag. One stovepipe, two ejected down magwell, one ejected into my forehead, and the other 14 ejected normally.

Damn. Mine was way worse than that. Over half of the casings went into the magwell or stovepiped. Tried the non-LCI SLB and it didn't change anything. I ordered an HRED but won't be able to test it out until my slide gets back from jagerwerks.

[Trukinjp13]

Im not trying to be a Dick here. But why does the 1911 ejection test always come up, when we are not talking about 1911s? The design is completely different. I guess I fail to see how it truly carries over? I have seen these tests on guns with thousands of rounds through them. With perfect function through every one. They have failed the test though. So therefore were shit? Yet they function correctly in the environment they were designed to.


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[JHC]

Im not trying to be a Dick here. But why does the 1911 ejection test always come up, when we are not talking about 1911s? The design is completely different. I guess I fail to see how it truly carries over? I have seen these tests on guns with thousands of rounds through them. With perfect function through every one. They have failed the test though. So therefore were shit? Yet they function correctly in the environment they were designed to.


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I know I know. It's gotten ingrained here though and I sort of enjoy it now. ;)

[kitten_frenzy]

Im not trying to be a Dick here. But why does the 1911 ejection test always come up, when we are not talking about 1911s? The design is completely different. I guess I fail to see how it truly carries over? I have seen these tests on guns with thousands of rounds through them. With perfect function through every one. They have failed the test though. So therefore were shit? Yet they function correctly in the environment they were designed to.


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I'm just testing ejection in the worst possible scenario because I'm scared of brass eating away at my RMR :(

[Trukinjp13]

I'm just testing ejection in the worst possible scenario because I'm scared of brass eating away at my RMR :(

You get your slide sent out yet?


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[45dotACP]

I'm just testing ejection in the worst possible scenario because I'm scared of brass eating away at my RMR :(The nice thing about modern double column mags is that they seem more effective at using the mag to help eject the round or just don't have the issue that 1911s have. Namely that the last round can be dragged into the magazine and destroy it in addition to death jamming your gun.

I have never seen that occur with a Glock, in spite of the fact that the extractor has very slight tension.

As for concerns about your RMR glass...I guess I'd probably be worried about consistent extraction as well so it doesn't chip the sight. But at that point, the 10-8 test probably isn't the best diagnostic. Video of extraction and ejection with the mag in place seems more appropriate.

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[kitten_frenzy]

You get your slide sent out yet?


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Yep! Mailed it out early last week to Jagerwerks. I went with the black nitride refinishing so I probably won't get it back until Christmas time.

[Trukinjp13]

Yep! Mailed it out early last week to Jagerwerks. I went with the black nitride refinishing so I probably won't get it back until Christmas time.

Ill probably have mine back before then, Ill let you know how mine is.


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[JBP55]

Im not trying to be a Dick here. But why does the 1911 ejection test always come up, when we are not talking about 1911s? The design is completely different. I guess I fail to see how it truly carries over? I have seen these tests on guns with thousands of rounds through them. With perfect function through every one. They have failed the test though. So therefore were shit? Yet they function correctly in the environment they were designed to.


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AMEN!

[vandal]

I’m hitting left with my Gen 5 G19, Ameriglo rear centered in the slide and front straight. 3” left at 15y. Don’t have this issue with my Gen 3s. Don’t know if I have to adjust to the different trigger, if the large grip backstrap is changing my trigger press, or if it’s the gun. Thoughts?


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[Gray222]

I’m hitting left with my Gen 5 G19, Ameriglo rear centered in the slide and front straight. 3” left at 15y. Don’t have this issue with my Gen 3s. Don’t know if I have to adjust to the different trigger, if the large grip backstrap is changing my trigger press, or if it’s the gun. Thoughts?


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It has become increasingly apparent to me that every glock I have shot over the years needs to have its own zero.

Simply putting the sights in the middle and saying its perfect doesn't fit the bill because of the variables of barrel vs type of ammo vs elevation/temp.

[WobblyPossum]

It has become increasingly apparent to me that every glock I have shot over the years needs to have its own zero.

Simply putting the sights in the middle and saying its perfect doesn't fit the bill because of the variables of barrel vs type of ammo vs elevation/temp.

Like Kyle Defoor says, pistols need to be zeroed just like rifles. My G19-5 is zeroed for windage with the rear sight centered. I’ll be buying a second one early next year and I can’t tell you for sure that it will also be zeroed for me with the rear site centered.


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[SilentSc0rch]

Well, I convinced myself that I needed a third 19 so naturally why would I not want to try the new FBI gun? Some notes:

- As others have mentioned, finger-blasting one at the gun store doesn't quite do it justice. The trigger and ergos feel better when it's actually in use.
- I never dove into the Gen4s so I don't have a baseline of comparison, but side by side my Gen5 shot noticeably softer than my Gen3.
- It fits my M3 Tactical appendix holster without the need for modifications!
- I have tiny hands so I didn't even notice the cut-out at the front of the grip.
- I like the new lip on the front of the mags more than the orange follower.

Question for you guys: when you take the slide off of the frame and pull the striker back so that the firing pin safety is engaged, does it then give you a hard time when putting the slide back on the frame? I'm guessing this is because of the redesigned internals.

[Steve m]

has anyone removed the right side safety on the Gen 5 yet?

[vandal]

I am accustomed to making small adjustments when zeroing using my sight pusher.

But I haven’t had a glock (in the 20 or so I’ve had) that began “off” that much. But I also haven’t had one with this trigger (except my G43) or one with the ability to properly (I think) fit my big hands.

Then there’s the reports of Gen5s arriving with the rear sight already pushed right, and an email from Glock saying they did that deliberately... I wonder what’s up.


Like Kyle Defoor says, pistols need to be zeroed just like rifles. My G19-5 is zeroed for windage with the rear sight centered. I’ll be buying a second one early next year and I can’t tell you for sure that it will also be zeroed for me with the rear site centered.


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[Mitch]

It has become increasingly apparent to me that every glock I have shot over the years needs to have its own zero.

Simply putting the sights in the middle and saying its perfect doesn't fit the bill because of the variables of barrel vs type of ammo vs elevation/temp.


Like Kyle Defoor says, pistols need to be zeroed just like rifles. My G19-5 is zeroed for windage with the rear sight centered. I’ll be buying a second one early next year and I can’t tell you for sure that it will also be zeroed for me with the rear site centered.


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I️ have Trijicon HDs on my Glock now that I’d like to change out, except they’re perfectly zeroed and I️ don’t want to take the time to do that again when there’s something in place that works. I️ keep coming back to, “oh screw it, they’re fine I️ guess.”


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[KevH]

Anyone running a Grip Force Adapter on a 19.5?

[kitten_frenzy]

I’m hitting left with my Gen 5 G19, Ameriglo rear centered in the slide and front straight. 3” left at 15y. Don’t have this issue with my Gen 3s. Don’t know if I have to adjust to the different trigger, if the large grip backstrap is changing my trigger press, or if it’s the gun. Thoughts?


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May be grip differences. Doesn't the geometry of the Gen4 bar cause the trigger to break sooner than the Gen3? That may play a significant role, too.

[CDFIII]

Well... ran 300rds. of Federal AE 147gr. today through my Gen. 5 19(#1) And around 75rds. through Gen. 5 19 (#2) today. Both guns had no issues with this round. Also split a box of 50rd. 147gr. HST between the two and all is well. So far both guns have cycled everything from 115-147gr.

[vandal]

Maybe it was just a bad day. Had it out again today and when I did my part it shot straight. The indoor range I use has horrible lighting on most the bays, and tends to have a lot of smoke. So maybe just s poor sighting day. Or I am getting used to the trigger.


May be grip differences. Doesn't the geometry of the Gen4 bar cause the trigger to break sooner than the Gen3? That may play a significant role, too.




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[MVS]

I'm just testing ejection in the worst possible scenario because I'm scared of brass eating away at my RMR :(

My RMR has been on my Gen3 for about 7 years and 70,000 rounds or thereabouts. It has taken quite a beating from a gun that was one of the BTF guns.

[HCM]

I’m hitting left with my Gen 5 G19, Ameriglo rear centered in the slide and front straight. 3” left at 15y. Don’t have this issue with my Gen 3s. Don’t know if I have to adjust to the different trigger, if the large grip backstrap is changing my trigger press, or if it’s the gun. Thoughts?


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You said you are using the Large grip. The Medium grip for the Gen 4:5 is the equivalent of the Gen 3 grip.

[Kyle Reese]

Extended range session this evening. 2 hours, 550 rounds. Worked the reduced head box on the excellent USMS qual target at 15/20/25, as well as Bill Drills at distance. I continue to be very impressed with the 17.5.

Total rounds thru this pistol since September is 3575.


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[vandal]

Yes one of my reasons for getting Gen5 was to try the larger grip. My fingers are long enough that wrapping around a Gen3 I struggle to get much meat from my support hand on the grip.


You said you are using the Large grip. The Medium grip for the Gen 4:5 is the equivalent of the Gen 3 grip.




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[HCM]

Yes one of my reasons for getting Gen5 was to try the larger grip. My fingers are long enough that wrapping around a Gen3 I struggle to get much meat from my support hand on the grip.

I have XXL hands too but I've found the med grip works best on my Gen 4's and 5s.





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[Nephrology]

I’m hitting left with my Gen 5 G19, Ameriglo rear centered in the slide and front straight. 3” left at 15y. Don’t have this issue with my Gen 3s. Don’t know if I have to adjust to the different trigger, if the large grip backstrap is changing my trigger press, or if it’s the gun. Thoughts?


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Try the M. sized backstrap.

[Trukinjp13]

Ordered a 1000 rounds of federal
147 grn and a owb holster for her. Patiently waiting the return of my slide. Also got a steel torso needs to get mounted.


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[Ballistic_RT]

Does anyone know:
A) If the gen 5 magazine floorplates are backwards compatible?
B) If there is a place to buy the gen 5 floorplates alone?

[M2CattleCo]

The Gen5 floorplates will fit the Gen3-4 mags (same body). Call Glock, they may sell you some, the Gen 3-4 ones are $2/ea.

[Mitch]

Are there any differences between the springs and followers (other than color) with Gen 5 or Gen 4 mags?


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[CLaw]

Has anyone been able to find spare Gen 5 recoil springs anywhere? I have heard some say that the G19 is the same recoil spring between Gen 4 and 5, but I haven't been able to find a place to confirm the info.

[L-2]

For Post#1231,
The G19Gen5 recoil spring assembly (RSA) is #39310; a G19Gen4 is #8703.

I bought my spare G19Gen5 RSA directly from Glock using its parts order form downloadable from this Glock webpage:
https://us.glock.com/customer-service/downloadable-materials

The G19Gen5 RSA seemed to be a bit longer than the G19Gen4 RSA part.

Glock's parts ordering system tends to be old-school, so allow ~month before receiving the part after faxing (yes FAXING) in your order.

[Trukinjp13]

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Well. I did a undercut on mine. First time I have tried that. Need to clean up the leftover sharpie marks under her. But it feels really good and I did not go crazy.


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[PensFan]

Are there any differences between the springs and followers (other than color) with Gen 5 or Gen 4 mags?

No. Same tube and spring.

[1Rangemaster]

From a GLOCK ARMORER Course:
The Gen5 floor plates(FBI spec) should not be installed on G26 magazines. The extended lip will prevent the G26 mag from seating and
Locking in the mag well

[Steve m]

Picked up a Gen 5 G-19 last week, put Dawson chargers on it, grip plug in it. The trigger is smoother to me than my other gen 4s or Gen 3s. I did cut off the right side ambi safety. As far as holster fit. Holsters with no issues, X-Concealment OWB, JMCK AWIB both regular and 2.5 claw version, Raven Concealment Phantom, Trex arms, Safariland ALS for G-17 no issues, ALS for G-17 with surefire x300 no issues. The following holsters DO NOT FIT, Comptac paddle, for G-19 or G-17, Blade tech (Older OWB for G-17) Fobus for G-19, and older Safariland with bail release (sorry cant remember model #). The pistol looked like it was binding in area above trigger guard. even after I removed the right side ambi safety still do dice on fitting the above holsters. Magazines look good, I can't tell a difference using them to dry fire and practice reloads. So far no issues with any of my legacy magazines fitting. In dry fire the trigger is smooth, I do like the new finish better. To me the pistol almost feels as if it already has thousands of rounds through it and the parts have worn together. I have not shot it at the range yet, hopefully this weekend.

[STI]

Wish you could get spare trigger return springs, can't find in the Glock ordering list

[L-2]

For Post#1237,
Part #33854 is the trigger mechanism housing for a Gen5 and comes with the trigger spring installed.

Gen5 parts are still hard to get other than by Glock Armorers directly from Glock. It can take a month to get a parts order delivered after faxing in the order.

[kitten_frenzy]

For Post#1237,
Part #33854 is the trigger mechanism housing for a Gen5 and comes with the trigger spring installed.

Gen5 parts are still hard to get other than by Glock Armorers directly from Glock. It can take a month to get a parts order delivered after faxing in the order.

I don't have a fax machine. Do they accept telegrams?

[El Cid]

even after I removed the right side ambi safety still do dice on fitting the above holsters.



has anyone removed the right side safety on the Gen 5 yet?

You keep saying safety. Can we presume you're talking about the slide stop lever? Or do you have one of the MHS guns?

[L-2]

For Post 1239,
Here's Glock's contact page: https://us.glock.com/customer-service/contact-us
I've no experience with telegrams.

[Texaspoff]

Well I will say I like the USA version every bit as much as my Austrian versions. :)

https://i.imgur.com/cixmRS4.jpg

TXPO

[kitten_frenzy]

Well I will say I like the USA version every bit as much as my Austrian versions. :)

https://i.imgur.com/cixmRS4.jpg

TXPO

For some reason I expected your personal gun to have super elaborate frame work done.

[M2CattleCo]

I need another Gen5 19, I'm holding out until I see a USA made one. Or an FDE. Or green. Or all of 'em.

[Steve m]

EL Cid,

Sorry for the confusion, yes I meant to say the slide stop lever.

[Trukinjp13]

For some reason I expected your personal gun to have super elaborate frame work done.

I imagine he is a undercut and call it good lol


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[Ballistic_RT]

Now that the gen 5 has been out for a bit. Does anyone have any measurable performance data between the gen 4 and 5? Is the increase in cost really there? Yes there are no finger grooves, and yes it has ambi slide stop (as a lefty i always made it work before), but what other design differences and tweaks are the gen 5 providing us? Is there a true performance increase? Would someone be better off with a gen 4 and buying a agency magwell, removing the grooves, and just doing work with it? I ask because i held a G17 gen 5 and just from fondling liked it more than the gen 4 at its base state. Just wondering if its truly worth it.

[RJ]

(Finally) Shot my G19.5 with Defoor Steel Sights. I was on a quiet lane and was able to use my timer for The Test strings.

I brought, but forgot to install, the larger backstraps. It seems to shoot fine without, so I’m going to leave it set up as a S Size Grip (I have M hands for a guy).

I Shot 134 mixed rounds of various Speer GD124+p, AE124, Champion 115, PMC 115, and Lawman 115.

No malfunctions. No BTF I was aware of. Brass piled behind me on the weak side. Trigger seemed fine. Smooth even. Recoil seemed unremarkable.

Gun was accurate, providing I did my job. Surprisingly accurate. A 2X on a B8 at 25 yards is pretty good for me.

With my current sights, it seems to shoot “cover the dot” sight picture, with all the ammo I shot. I guess I’ll keep doing that. I could not see the orange color I’d painted the front sight. It appeared black in the light I was in. There was a nice amount of light side to side though, so whatever the width to notch ratio it is, it seems to work for me. I’ll be interested to compare it to cardboard at my next USPSA match (planned 12/5).

Scored targets were: FYL at 5 yards: 7/10 (did that twice). 25 yd slow fire: 44-2X. USPSA Metric Target Head Box 15cmx15cm at 10 yards: 10/10 in the Box.

I finished with “The Test” with a score of 79-2X.

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So far so good. I yanked many shots, and I knew they were misses. Going to work some one round dry press drills in future.

Need a Gadget and order my EDC holster, but I think for me this pistol is gtg.

[PensFan]

Wish you could get spare trigger return springs, can't find in the Glock ordering list

I'm curious as to why you would want or need one.

The two highest wear parts in previous generations were the trigger springs, firing pin and firing pin safeties (engagement area). Those points of failure no longer exist in Gen5 (and G42/G43).

I've seen Gen4 and Gen5 RSA's last and continue to function well beyond what most average shooters are likely to ever reach in round count. That doesn't mean that you shouldn't replace the RSA now and then.

So, other than an RSA the only part I would carry in my kit would be an spare slide lock spring. Mainly because people launch and lose them all the time.

[STI]

How does one order a slide lock spring? Or slide lock with the spring?

[PensFan]

How does one order a slide lock spring? Or slide lock with the spring?

If you're a Glock armorer you can order just about every Gen5 part. Non armorers would have to go to an outside source. https://us.glock.com/customer-service/downloadable-materials (https://us.glock.com/customer-service/downloadable-materials) part number 39567

[Texaspoff]

For some reason I expected your personal gun to have super elaborate frame work done.


Honestly I find the 5th Gen works well for me in it factory configuration, of course I do undercut the trigger guards, and the one pictured will go under the knife this weekend. Other than that, the things are GTG as they sit. Glock keeps creeping closer and closer to putting me out of business. If they ever decide to loose the hump, I suspect there will be a ton of used Glocks on the market. I know some folks aren't to happy with the 5th gens and love their 3 and 4's but, the 5th are a step in the right direction. A lot of people din't like the 4th Gens when they came out, me included, but I came around after the new designed parts were vetted. I have three 5th gens, well two now, just sold one, and my duty 19.5 has been put through the ringer. After 3500 rounds without a malfunction, or much of a cleaning, I retired my modified 4th Gen's and have been carrying the 5's. The USA one I just picked up will take the place of the backup 19.5 I just sold. I just wanted one that said USA on it. :)


TXPO

[45dotACP]

I tried out a Gen 5 17 just today.

Does want. The mag well is badass, the slide lock doesn't need an extended one and the stock trigger is pretty good. Just with the standard dovetail protectors, I turned in similar groups as my G34 with Warren tactical sights and a WC drop in barrel.

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[STI]

The two highest wear parts in pother than an RSA the only part I would carry in my kit would be an spare slide lock spring. Mainly because people launch and lose them all the time.

I think I found a place and ordered every spring in the gun minus FPB for $30. Now let's see what comes in the mail.

[Greg Bell]

I’m liking mine but the trigger seems to be getting worse. There is a sort of light binding during the squeeze that seems to be getting worse.

[M2CattleCo]

I’m liking mine but the trigger seems to be getting worse. There is a sort of light binding during the squeeze that seems to be getting worse.

My 43 started doing that around 4100-4200 rounds until it would not fully reset.

If these 19s and 43s end up like that, I'll be sick. I sold off a great fleet of 9mm 239s and 226s to go Glock.

[breakingtime91]

My 43 started doing that around 4100-4200 rounds until it would not fully reset.

If these 19s and 43s end up like that, I'll be sick. I sold off a great fleet of 9mm 239s and 226s to go Glock.

So not a huge antidote to add but a guy was at my hometown gun store and was discussing that same issue with his 43. Can you let me know when you find out what it was?

[M2CattleCo]

So not a huge antidote to add but a guy was at my hometown gun store and was discussing that same issue with his 43. Can you let me know when you find out what it was?



I don't think I will. I called Glock, told them what it did, the round count, and the rep cut me off and said send it in, it'll be totally rebuilt.

I'm thinking about having Robar do all the metal internal parts in NP3+ when I get it back.

[58thunderbird]

My 43 started doing that around 4100-4200 rounds until it would not fully reset.

If these 19s and 43s end up like that, I'll be sick. I sold off a great fleet of 9mm 239s and 226s to go Glock.

Any idea of round count when it would not reset and did it fail to fire?

[M2CattleCo]

Any idea of round count when it would not reset and did it fail to fire?

Never a FTFire or any other malfunction. It still resets, but the trigger does not go all the way forward and is getting harder and grittier. I noticed this the last time I shot it, the round count is a little over 4200. Not much dry fire at all, but has been carried a lot, in very dusty, sandy conditions. I thought it was just dirty so I detail stripped and cleaned it, did not improve a bit. I swapped connectors, no change, swapped slides from a properly functioning 43, no change. Something is amiss in the 43's frame.

If it's a wear issue, I'm thinking that Robar's NP3 or NP3+ plating may fix the issue, or at least prolong the life of the parts.

[58thunderbird]

Wonder if trigger spring a issue? Looks like TYR is still under 4K and that's the highest round count I could find, but I probably missed somebody searching thread.

[Greg Bell]

https://youtu.be/Xnuob8Q-tRM

This shows what I’m talking about

[breakingtime91]

https://youtu.be/Xnuob8Q-tRM

This shows what I’m talking about

oh boy. not great.

[Doc_Glock]

https://youtu.be/Xnuob8Q-tRM

This shows what I’m talking about

An issue with the striker channel liner? Assuming the Gen 5 still uses one.

[M2CattleCo]

Exactly what my 43 did.

[M2CattleCo]

An issue with the striker channel liner? Assuming the Gen 5 still uses one.

My 43 shows no change when swapping slides with a different one.

[Doc_Glock]

My 43 shows no change when swapping slides with a different one.

So that points to something in the lower.

[Leroy Suggs]

Could it be a failure to lube here?

22068

[Kyle Reese]

Just spitballing here, but is it possible that the portion of the cruciform which locks in to the new G5 Trigger spring is working itself out of the notch that it is supposed to sit in? So far, and knock on wood, I’ll hit 4000 rounds tomorrow with my 17.5, and the trigger is still great.


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[Kyle Reese]

Could it be a failure to lube here?

22068

I was thinking that, too. Could there be galling on the connector? I make it a point to put a generous helpingTW25 or Slide Glide on the connector.


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[kitten_frenzy]

That's what my Glock kinda looked like when I had run it dry and the connector/trigger bar started grinding.

If not that, maybe that little plastic rod that holds the trigger spring and trigger bar retainer tab?

[M2CattleCo]

Could it be a failure to lube here?

22068


Just spitballing here, but is it possible that the portion of the cruciform which locks in to the new G5 Trigger spring is working itself out of the notch that it is supposed to sit in? So far, and knock on wood, I’ll hit 4000 rounds tomorrow with my 17.5, and the trigger is still great.


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No on both counts in my case. I'll run one dirty, but never dry.

[Biggy]

I believe my Gen 5 G19 has had the same issue a few times. It is like the trigger is binding somewhere and the pull gets really heavy. I took mine apart and took the trigger bar assembly out, got a real small screwdriver and gently made sure the new style trigger spring assembly was not out of position or binding anywhere, reassembled everything making sure the the trigger bar cruciform went under the trigger spring retainer or whatever it is called and the problem went away. If that doesn't correct it check your striker safety plunger/ spring for smooth operation.

[Trukinjp13]

Has anyone heard of this in the FBI guns? I think they may have different coated internals (maybe??). Also seems like their have been a lot of rounds ran through theirs in the tests.

Have their been any other high round tests done on a gen 5?


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[JHC]

Just shy of 200 rounds on a 19. Trigger sure is different than anything I've shot in a Glock. Smooth, consistent rolling break. I measure 6-6.5 lbs. Takes a lot of work on my part to keep five in the B8 black at 25 yards. In fact I haven't managed to yet. I dunno. I'm preferring a Gen 3 or 4 at this early stage.

[HCM]

Has anyone heard of this in the FBI guns? I think they may have different coated internals (maybe??). Also seems like their have been a lot of rounds ran through theirs in the tests.

Have their been any other high round tests done on a gen 5?


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No. And yes, they have a different coating on the internals, black DLC like the slide.

[HCM]

Just shy of 200 rounds on a 19. Trigger sure is different than anything I've shot in a Glock. Smooth, consistent rolling break. I measure 6-6.5 lbs. Takes a lot of work on my part to keep five in the B8 black at 25 yards. In fact I haven't managed to yet. I dunno. I'm preferring a Gen 3 or 4 at this early stage.

You have to shoot it like a DA revolver trigger.

[JHC]

You have to shoot it like a DA revolver trigger.

Absolutely

[Tensaw]

You have to shoot it like a DA revolver trigger.

Could you expand on what this means, please? Press straight through? What about shooting off the reset? Thanks.

[Kyle Reese]

Extended range session today, and got 600 rounds of CCI Blazer Brass 115 grain FMJ down the pipe from my 17.5. I have not yet encountered trigger phenomenon described by others in this thread. Round count to date is 4175.

[ranger]

Just shy of 200 rounds on a 19. Trigger sure is different than anything I've shot in a Glock. Smooth, consistent rolling break. I measure 6-6.5 lbs. Takes a lot of work on my part to keep five in the B8 black at 25 yards. In fact I haven't managed to yet. I dunno. I'm preferring a Gen 3 or 4 at this early stage.

I am in the same boat. I bought a Gen 5 G19 with plans to become my EDC. Stock except I replaced the sights. I have put about 500 rounds through it - much of those rounds at 15 to 25 yards at plate rack to work on my control. 100% reliable. I am confident that G19.5 is fine but I have to fight a left impact result. All me I am sure.

[HCM]

Could you expand on what this means, please? Press straight through? What about shooting off the reset? Thanks.

Press straight through with with steady pressure - rolling through the trigger just like you were shooting a double action revolver. When I think of rolling the trigger I literally see a DA revolver with the cylinder turning or “rolling” as the trigger is pulled straight through.

IME shooting off reset is bullshit. It’s a range gimmick. I let the trigger all the way out maintaining contact with the trigger then prep as appropriate. Flip and press can work too depending on the type of trigger you are running.

[GJM]

I am in the same boat. I bought a Gen 5 G19 with plans to become my EDC. Stock except I replaced the sights. I have put about 500 rounds through it - much of those rounds at 15 to 25 yards at plate rack to work on my control. 100% reliable. I am confident that G19.5 is fine but I have to fight a left impact result. All me I am sure.


Based on the two G5 pistols my wife got, and the two Gabe got, it appears Glock is sending the Ameriglo sights out with a slight right deflection of the rear sight.

[WobblyPossum]

Based on the two G5 pistols my wife got, and the two Gabe got, it appears Glock is sending the Ameriglo sights out with a slight right deflection of the rear sight.

This was not the case with my G19. I’ll be picking up another one at the start of the year. I’ll report back if the rear sight isn’t centered.


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[Kyle Reese]

Press straight through with with steady pressure - rolling through the trigger just like you were shooting a double action revolver. When I think of rolling the trigger I literally see a DA revolver with the cylinder turning or “rolling” as the trigger is pulled straight through.

IME shooting off reset is bullshit. It’s a range gimmick. I let the trigger all the way out maintaining contact with the trigger then prep as appropriate. Flip and press can work too depending on the type of trigger you are running.Concur on all counts, HCM. I cringe when I hear instructors advocate shooting from reset.

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[JHC]

I am in the same boat. I bought a Gen 5 G19 with plans to become my EDC. Stock except I replaced the sights. I have put about 500 rounds through it - much of those rounds at 15 to 25 yards at plate rack to work on my control. 100% reliable. I am confident that G19.5 is fine but I have to fight a left impact result. All me I am sure.

Oh yeah its me too. I'm all for them digging it but with God knows how much prior Glock volume and a slew of them in the armory . . . You know where I'm going. ;)

[JHC]

Press straight through with with steady pressure - rolling through the trigger just like you were shooting a double action revolver. When I think of rolling the trigger I literally see a DA revolver with the cylinder turning or “rolling” as the trigger is pulled straight through.

IME shooting off reset is bullshit. It’s a range gimmick. I let the trigger all the way out maintaining contact with the trigger then prep as appropriate. Flip and press can work too depending on the type of trigger you are running.

I don't shoot from reset. And DA wheelgun shooting is a riot. This is indeed similiar. But it's a lot shorter stroke than my J, K, and N frames.

This is great advice for those set on mastering this trigger. I'm busy mastering my 1911s and maintaining adequacy with my Gen 3s, and Gen 4s. ;)

[YVK]

I measure 6-6.5 lbs. Takes a lot of work on my part to keep five in the B8 black at 25 yards. In fact I haven't managed to yet.


From a personal experience and as a personal opinion only, if it says Glock on a slide and it has 6.5 lbs pull, it is not anything I care to shoot B8 at 25 yards with.

[M2CattleCo]

I'm still liking my Gen5 19s more and more. I took 1st out of 9 shooting Limited Minor this morning with it, one guy in open beat me for the overall. Those PCCs sure make the match results look bad though!

All I did was 10-8 sights. Has not been detail stripped yet.

[psalms144.1]

Based on the two G5 pistols my wife got, and the two Gabe got, it appears Glock is sending the Ameriglo sights out with a slight right deflection of the rear sight.To call the right offset of the rear sight "slight" on my Gen5 G19 would be the grossest understatement. It's not COMPLETELY pushed over to the right edge of the dovetail, but it's close.

Of course, it shoots pretty straight, so...

[GJM]

To call the right offset of the rear sight "slight" on my Gen5 G19 would be the grossest understatement. It's not COMPLETELY pushed over to the right edge of the dovetail, but it's close.

Of course, it shoots pretty straight, so...

The joke is they should ship left and right hand models. Since my wife is left handed, the right deflected sight didn’t help her. :p

[Trukinjp13]

Press straight through with with steady pressure - rolling through the trigger just like you were shooting a double action revolver. When I think of rolling the trigger I literally see a DA revolver with the cylinder turning or “rolling” as the trigger is pulled straight through.

IME shooting off reset is bullshit. It’s a range gimmick. I let the trigger all the way out maintaining contact with the trigger then prep as appropriate. Flip and press can work too depending on the type of trigger you are running.

This all of this. I could never shoot a striker as good as a good da trigger. Hence I love the gen 5 trigger. Also I agree on the reset. If I am shooting really slow I will not let it all the way out. But actual shooting. I pay no attention. I wished my px4cc had a shorter reset at first. I was really going slow and focusing on getting used to it. But when I actually ran the gun out of a holster. Reset meant absolutely nothing.


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[Fordtough25]

I've got over 1500 through my g19.5 now, still 0 malfunctions!! It's my favorite yet and have been carrying it without issue for a good while now.

[Trukinjp13]

Does anyone know if ordering a trigger bar from the m series is possible?


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[vandal]

Just finished a 2-day Defoor pistol class using Gen 5 G19. First time shooting it in decent light (my indoor range sucks). Bold sights are basically centered and I didn't have any problem with horizontal alignment.

Overall I think we fired about 600 rounds over two days, maybe a bit more.

Day 1 I used the G19 with the Large grip backstrap installed hoping that it would allow more space to get my big hands on the gun. It did, but the bigger hump caused other problems. #1 I had a hard time getting a grip on the gun without my hand being high enough that I got slide tracks. #2 was I was hitting low which was the opposite of what I expected.

For Day 2 I switched to the med size grip which I think someone here posted is equivalent to the Gen 3 grip size I'm used to. Less slide bite, and rounds are hitting where I expected (not low anymore). However the distances were shorter.

Overall pros: No brass to face at any time. No malfunctions at any time. I think my reloads were smoother.

Overall cons: Glock Gen 5 beavertail does not seem as wide as a Grip Force adapter on a Gen 3 so it's easier to get slide bite with Gen 5. After 600 rounds I have a nice sore spot on my firing hand little finger from the frontstrap cutout.

My major lessons learned: if you want to go and learn technique, stick with equipment that you've already been accustomed to. I assumed shooting the Gen 5 would be only a minor change from my Gen 3's but I underestimated the differences. Also to carry the Gen 5 I had to use a different holster to accommodate the ambi slide stop. I thought the holster was going to be pretty similar to my normal CCW JMCK but discovered that it was different enough to mess with my draw. Fighting my equipment while also trying new grip and trigger techniques is too much. Too many variables, too few controls!

I was able to mod the JMCK to accept the Gen 5 in my hotel room the night of D1 using my Leatherman... +1 point! Sliced my finger doing so... -2 points.

[RJ]

Measly 40 more rounds (174 total) through my G19.5 today, 0 malfunctions.

Out of curiosity I did the 1911 ejection test. Which as I understand, you chamber 1 Round then remove the magazine.

5 / 5 rounds ejected 3-5 feet to my right from 2 o’clock to 4 o’clock.

[Ballistic_RT]

Does anyone have a lead as to when the rest of the 9mm line of Gen 5s will be released? Hoping to add a 17, 34, and 26 to the stable.