*THE* Gen 5 Glock thread: First Impressions, Reviews and Thoughts

[RJ]

The rear sight notch is further back to accommodate the optics cut, the MOS has front cocking serrations and does not have the gen 2 style front cut out of the mag well.

Ok, thanks HCM. I found an unboxing video online and didn't notice the lack of a cutout. (Doesn't really bother me either way).

Same plastic dovetail protectors on the MOS, I guess?

[HCM]

Ok, thanks HCM. I found an unboxing video online and didn't notice the lack of a cutout. (Doesn't really bother me either way).

Same plastic dovetail protectors on the MOS, I guess?

You can get them with standard NS or bolds. The bolds hasn’t over the back but it doesn’t hurt anything - they just don’t do witness an optic.

My 17.5 MOS came with bolds because that was the only configuration my blue label dealer had at the time. Looked goofy at first but they have grown on me.

[El Cid]

And anyway I have a zillion G19 mags.


This was your first mistake. ;)

I keep a handful of G19/26 mags around. But all my reloads are from 17rd, 19rd, or 24rd mags. You should’ve bought a zillion G17 mags. :-P

[TheNewbie]

Do all Gen 5 19s have the cutout?

[JBP55]

This was your first mistake. ;)

I keep a handful of G19/26 mags around. But all my reloads are from 17rd, 19rd, or 24rd mags. You should’ve bought a zillion G17 mags. :-P

This, I have the smaller magazines that came with my smaller Glocks but purchased quite a few 17 and 33 round magazines.
The 17 round magazines are carried as backup and the 33 round magazines are loaded and available in the doors of my vehicles and they work in any Glock I carry.

[StraitR]

Do all Gen 5 19s have the cutout?

19.5 MOS and 45/19X do not have the front cutout.

[HCM]

Do all Gen 5 19s have the cutout?

The 19.5 MOS does not. Neither do the 17.5 MOS nor the G45.

[TheNewbie]

I have a 45, and really like it. I would have likely got a 19, but even with small hands that cutout felt weird. No idea if it would have affected actually shooting the gun.

[TheNewbie]

With my G45s and 19Xs I have moved all my other glocks out, except for a 43 and one 2nd Gen 19 I kept for sentimental reasons. The 45s do everything for me better than my 19s. Yes the 19 may be slightly more concealable, but I have no issues with the 45 and carrying off duty. Despite opinion, I still feel like the 45 is effectively killing the 17. Once the 45MOS is released, I predict sales on the 17 will decline even further.

My wife, also an officer has carried a G17 for years, and after shooting my 45, she is even retiring her 17 and going with the 45. This was no small feat, as she absolutely hates change. She is also left handed and appreciates the controls on the 5th Gen Glocks.



TXPO

What holsters are you using for the G45?

I put a G45 in my 2014 made 7TS (als but no hood guard or hood) and while it works, the front serrations catch on the way out, and the gun does not "click" into place. It still retains the gun and the als has to be activated to remove it.

[Texaspoff]

What holsters are you using for the G45?

I put a G45 in my 2014 made 7TS (als but no hood guard or hood) and while it works, the front serrations catch on the way out, and the gun does not "click" into place. It still retains the gun and the als has to be activated to remove it.

Catching serrations was the issue that popped up when I was running 4th Gen 19FS in my 6360s. At the time, I just went back to standard 4th Gen guns to avoid the problem.

When I moved to the G45 I figured it would show up again but I wasn't giving up my G45s period, I was going to find a solution. :D

Safariland does know about the issue, and said they are working on an upgrade for the ALS for serrations.

What I did to solve the issue was use a piece of industrial strength velco the heavy duty stuff you can get at Home Depot or Lowes, and added it to the ALS lock opposite of the ejection port.

Trim the piece small enough to just fit on the ALS lock. It will be snug at first, but flattens out pretty quick. It creates just enough clearance that the serrations don't hang. The slide only hangs on that side, the ejection port side doesn't exhibit the issues. We have done this mod to a dozen holsters here and have no had a single issue with it.

Piece where the crappy red outline is.....Lol

https://i.imgur.com/dRjQGoa.jpg?2






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[pew_pew]

Shot my 45 for the first time today. It’s dope. The sights seem to track extra super easy for some reason. Have been debating milling it for an RMR but I don’t know. I like irons. Think I’ll just put some sights on it and an X300 and call it good.

Also really like these 24 round Glock mags. It’s actually not absurd to carry one as a backup like a 33rd.

[Larry Sellers]

I thought it was just me. It feels really good when running it.
Shot my 45 for the first time today. It’s dope. The sights seem to track extra super easy for some reason. Have been debating milling it for an RMR but I don’t know. I like irons. Think I’ll just put some sights on it and an X300 and call it good.

Also really like these 24 round Glock mags. It’s actually not absurd to carry one as a backup like a 33rd.

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[TheNewbie]

Catching serrations was the issue that popped up when I was running 4th Gen 19FS in my 6360s. At the time, I just went back to standard 4th Gen guns to avoid the problem.

When I moved to the G45 I figured it would show up again but I wasn't giving up my G45s period, I was going to find a solution. :D

Safariland does know about the issue, and said they are working on an upgrade for the ALS for serrations.

What I did to solve the issue was use a piece of industrial strength velco the heavy duty stuff you can get at Home Depot or Lowes, and added it to the ALS lock opposite of the ejection port.

Trim the piece small enough to just fit on the ALS lock. It will be snug at first, but flattens out pretty quick. It creates just enough clearance that the serrations don't hang. The slide only hangs on that side, the ejection port side doesn't exhibit the issues. We have done this mod to a dozen holsters here and have no had a single issue with it.

Piece where the crappy red outline is.....Lol

https://i.imgur.com/dRjQGoa.jpg?2






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Thank you!

Safariland has a 7TS option now for the G45, and it has a different SKU than an non Gen 5 7TS. However, I am unsure if it solves any issues with the serrations catching.

[HeavyDuty]

Thank you!

Safariland has a 7TS option now for the G45, and it has a different SKU than an non Gen 5 7TS. However, I am unsure if it solves any issues with the serrations catching.

Do you have that SKU? My Google-fu is weak.

[TheNewbie]

Do you have that SKU? My Google-fu is weak.

http://www.safariland.com/products/holsters-and-gear/holsters/duty-holsters/retention/model-7390-7ts-als-mid-ride-duty-holster-34843.html#dwfrm_holsterfinder_gunid=276445&dwfrm_holsterfinder_lightid=&dwfrm_holsterfinder_addonid=&dwfrm_holsterfinder_guntype=pistol&dwfrm_holsterfinder_manufacturer=Glock&dwfrm_holsterfinder_model=45&dwfrm_holsterfinder_barrellength=4.02&dwfrm_holsterfinder_caliber=9x19mm%2BParabellum&dwfrm_holsterfinder_haslight=&dwfrm_holsterfinder_lighttype=&dwfrm_holsterfinder_hasaddon=&dwfrm_holsterfinder_addontype=&prefn1=gunList&prefv1=276445&prefn2=lightListText&prefv2=none&prefn3=mountListText&prefv3=none&start=1


SKU: 1167522 PART: 7390-283-411


That is for the 7390 right hand.

If that doesn't work go to Safariland and use their holster finder section.

[RJ]

The 19.5 MOS does not. Neither do the 17.5 MOS nor the G45.

Thanks H.

Ok I think even though the G19.5 cut out does not bother me, the other changes, as well as the future option of an optic (even though I don't plan on one "now" pretty much put a G19.5 MOSat the top of my "what should I do with my GSSF coupon in 2019" list.

[TheNewbie]

Thanks H.

Ok I think even though the G19.5 cut out does not bother me, the other changes, as well as the future option of an optic (even though I don't plan on one "now" pretty much put a G19.5 MOSat the top of my "what should I do with my GSSF coupon in 2019" list.

The cut out does not bother you? I don't know how to ask this without sounding like a dude wearing tight jeans in truck stop bathroom, but what size hands do you have?

[RJ]

The cut out does not bother you? I don't know how to ask this without sounding like a dude wearing tight jeans in truck stop bathroom, but what size hands do you have?

No, it doesn’t. Size M gloves.


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[newyork]

Me neither


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[HCM]

The cut out does not bother you? I don't know how to ask this without sounding like a dude wearing tight jeans in truck stop bathroom, but what size hands do you have?

XXL gloves here and it doesn’t bother me either. Nor did it bother me on the Gen 2s.

[Leroy Suggs]

L -XL gloves and it does not bother me at all.
Gen 2 does not either.

[psalms144.1]

Size L gloves for me, and the cutout doesn't bother me even a little bit...

[HeavyDuty]

http://www.safariland.com/products/holsters-and-gear/holsters/duty-holsters/retention/model-7390-7ts-als-mid-ride-duty-holster-34843.html#dwfrm_holsterfinder_gunid=276445&dwfrm_holsterfinder_lightid=&dwfrm_holsterfinder_addonid=&dwfrm_holsterfinder_guntype=pistol&dwfrm_holsterfinder_manufacturer=Glock&dwfrm_holsterfinder_model=45&dwfrm_holsterfinder_barrellength=4.02&dwfrm_holsterfinder_caliber=9x19mm%2BParabellum&dwfrm_holsterfinder_haslight=&dwfrm_holsterfinder_lighttype=&dwfrm_holsterfinder_hasaddon=&dwfrm_holsterfinder_addontype=&prefn1=gunList&prefv1=276445&prefn2=lightListText&prefv2=none&prefn3=mountListText&prefv3=none&start=1


SKU: 1167522 PART: 7390-283-411


That is for the 7390 right hand.

If that doesn't work go to Safariland and use their holster finder section.

Thanks! I was looking on their e-commerce site.


The cut out does not bother you? I don't know how to ask this without sounding like a dude wearing tight jeans in truck stop bathroom, but what size hands do you have?

The 19.5 cutout drives me nuts. I have broad hands with fairly short fingers.

[TheNewbie]

Thanks! I was looking on their e-commerce site.



The 19.5 cutout drives me nuts. I have broad hands with fairly short fingers.



What bothers you about it?

[Ndbbm]

Very limited time on a 19.5, I don't care for the cut out but figured out I didn't notice it when shooting. It was just an uncomfortable edge while holding the gun.

[WobblyPossum]

I don’t notice the cut out in dry or live fire at all. I wear size M gloves (SKD PIG and Icebreaker brand gloves for a more specific measurement).

[O4L]

I thought the cut out on my 19.5 would bother me but I don't even notice it. I have XXL hands if that matters.

[Edster]

For how I grip a Glock, the cutout falls under the middle joint of my pinky. There's a bit of a gap between joint and grip anyway. I really don't notice it. I also get the point why Glock put it there.

I just scored my first indoor GSSF 500 with a 19 Gen 5. The improvement was almost totally due to figuring out a better trigger technique. Still, the gun sure didn't hurt.

I'm real interested in the model 45. Since I carry strong-side, the grip seems like it would print like a 17. That raises the question of what I am getting with a 45 in exchange for giving up the extra barrel of a 17 Gen 5. The 45 does balance nice, though. The longer grip and shorter frame seem to pull the center of gravity back towards the hand.

[Texaspoff]

The cutout on the 2nd gen 19/23 did bothered me quite a bit. So much so I moved up to the full size, until they deleted it.

On the 5th Gen 19 it didn't bother me due to the flared magwell.

My biggest personal complaint about the 19/23 is the length of the grip, specifically the backstrap. While it is good for concealment, it always felt too abbreviated for me.

I have always preferred the 17/22 grip length, so when the 19X/G45 came out, it was a no brainer for me to switch. I only own one 2nd G19 now and it's sentimental value is the only thing that has kept it in my safe. I have 19Xs and G45 now, and on 43.




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[HeavyDuty]

What bothers you about it?

The edge of the cutout falls right on the gripping surface of my pinky. It drove me nuts 25 years ago with my 23.2, too. I spent years chasing a fix until the Pearce baseplates were released. I’m not willing to use those anymore.

[pew_pew]

I’ve been waiting for a non cutout gen 5 19. Maybe I’ll just get a 26 and use those magpul 12 rd mags.

[pew_pew]

Actually. Didn’t even think about putting a G45 slide on a gen 5 MOS 19. Hmm.

[TheNewbie]

I’ve been waiting for a non cutout gen 5 19. Maybe I’ll just get a 26 and use those magpul 12 rd mags.

Have they proven reliable?

[RJ]

I’ve been waiting for a non cutout gen 5 19. Maybe I’ll just get a 26 and use those magpul 12 rd mags.

I have a G26.5 I carry with a Glock 10+2 OEM extension.

I also bought a PMAG 12 rounder to try. There was not a lick of difference between them, shooting, near as I could tell. I gave away the PMAG in a Karma thread here.

[StraitR]

Do you have that SKU? My Google-fu is weak.

Only Rainman can make sense of Safariland's SKU's and part numbers. I'm pretty sure it's a running inside joke of some kind.

[HCM]

Only Rainman can make sense of Safariland's SKU's and part numbers. I'm pretty sure it's a running inside joke of some kind.

True. The Holster Ops web site is 1000% more user friendly and their telephonic customer Service is 1,000,000x better than Safariland.

[Texaspoff]

Only Rainman can make sense of Safariland's SKU's and part numbers. I'm pretty sure it's a running inside joke of some kind.

Yeah Safariland's will-fit and holster finder are a joke. Call them directly and talk with them. I have called them several times in the past asking about holster for a new handgun that they were already producing that didn't show up anywhere on their sites.



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[Sasage]

I have a G26.5 I carry with a Glock 10+2 OEM extension.

I also bought a PMAG 12 rounder to try. There was not a lick of difference between them, shooting, near as I could tell. I gave away the PMAG in a Karma thread here.Did you find the length of the mags inserted to be same size ?

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[RJ]

Did you find the length of the mags inserted to be same size ?

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I did not have the PMAG all that long, but as I recall there wasn’t much difference in length between the two, inserted, no.

[Gater]

I did not have the PMAG all that long, but as I recall there wasn’t much difference in length between the two, inserted, no.

I usually use 10 rounders and have no experience with the 26.5 to add to Rich's, but I had both out to the range recently with an older 26. They are pretty close...the Magpul is slightly shorter. Some pics from earlier discussion here:

https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?24135-Glock-26-pmag/page7

and here:

https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?23090-Black-Friday-is-gonna-be-expensive-(the-quot-official-quot-2016-Holiday-Deals-Thread)/page34

[pew_pew]

I’ve got some Truglo TFOs showing up today to try on the G45. Usually not my style. I like Ameriglo Defoors or something simple usually but wanted to try something different.

Planning on getting a gen 5 26 this week and I’m embarrassed to say, but I want to try some XS big dots on that.

[Clobbersaurus]

Copied this from my journal, thought members may want to see the wear on my G17 after 6K rounds.


12/23

250 rounds AE, 124g

That puts my Gen 5 right at 6,344 rounds. Some pics of the wear, which appears normal, and minimal. The slide finish is excellent and shows very minimal wear after almost daily dry practice and thousands of draws from the holster in the 8 months I have owned it.

http://i.imgur.com/rFhcwpD.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/BoJPJO4.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/wsd9pJM.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/5JDehYl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/7k9Owzg.jpg

Finish has mostly worn off both sides of the slide release.
http://i.imgur.com/VMhRWTN.jpg

The slide finish is amazing. Hardly any wear for the work it’s seen.
http://i.imgur.com/KYz3SOr.jpg

Just a few minor bright spots near the muzzle
http://i.imgur.com/nTkIxLk.jpg

Magwell is a little battered from thousands of reloads.
http://i.imgur.com/DKDcDPg.jpg

Needs to be detail stripped and cleaned. I have only cleaned it a couple times, and only just with a field strip and scrub.
http://i.imgur.com/2t6ypv6.jpg

[GJM]

This is what we call “honest wear.”

[Gater]

I may have missed this, but has anyone confirmed the presence of the breech face cut on a model other than the G45 at this point?

Edited to note: Doh! Yes, dfeder530 for one, in post 2479. So...does the 47021 ejector go along with the breech cut?

[Larry Sellers]

Yea. New 19.5 MOS has it. Throws brass a mile.

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[JBP55]

[QUOTE=Gater;826995]I may have missed this, but has anyone confirmed the presence of the breech face cut on a model other than the G45 at this point?

Edited to note: Doh! Yes, dfeder530 for one, in post 2479. So...does the 47021 ejector go along with the breech cut?[/QUOTE

The 3 Gen 5 Glocks I have starting with letters BH all have the new breech face cut. G19X/G19MOS/G45

[MDFA]

My new Gen 5 19 MOS. I added Ameriglo Suppressor Height Sights, and the CH Precision RMR MOS adapter plate, which fills in the gap at the front and rear of the standard MOS plates. I have the Vickers Slide Stop and Magazine Release on the way as well as Dawson Precision MOS Cowitness Suppressor Sights. I really like the Magwell and the front serrations more than I thought I would. It's more accurate and has a better trigger than my Gen 3 19.

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[JHC]

Worked out the 19X at 50 yards. Meh results. Beat it like a dog with my RTF2 G19 with KKM barrel. Then dropped that KKM barrel into the 19X and the Marksman barrel into the RTF2.

BOOM. Low strike flyer but four shot group just stupid. 6:00 hold on the head at 50 yards. I'll leave the KKM barrel in the 19X for a spell. Marksman barrel in the RTF2.

Interesting to me is that in each of my Gen 3 or 4s I put a KKM barrel in (3 19s and 3 17s) the KKM raised the POI such that I got .245 tall front sights to dial them in.

But swapping OEM Marksman barrel with KKM G19 barrel had the same POI in the 19X. I changed the OEM tritium set to HD's from another pistols with a .245 tall front and got a nice just on the top of the front post POI. I guess the Gen 5 tolerances are such that the KKM doesn't change that aspect vs Marksman barrel.


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[HCM]

Worked out the 19X at 50 yards. Meh results. Beat it like a dog with my RTF2 G19 with KKM barrel. Then dropped that KKM barrel into the 19X and the Marksman barrel into the RTF2.

BOOM. Low strike flyer but four shot group just stupid. 6:00 hold on the head at 50 yards. I'll leave the KKM barrel in the 19X for a spell. Marksman barrel in the RTF2.

Interesting to me is that in each of my Gen 3 or 4s I put a KKM barrel in (3 19s and 3 17s) the KKM raised the POI such that I got .245 tall front sights to dial them in.

But swapping OEM Marksman barrel with KKM G19 barrel had the same POI in the 19X. I changed the OEM tritium set to HD's from another pistols with a .245 tall front and got a nice just on the top of the front post POI. I guess the Gen 5 tolerances are such that the KKM doesn't change that aspect vs Marksman barrel.


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33897

That makes sense as the gen 5 marksman barrel’s tighter lock up is why the normally require a talker front sight.

[ASH556]

JHC what sights are you using on that 19X? Thanks in advance!

[JHC]

JHC what sights are you using on that 19X? Thanks in advance!

Heh heh heh

The too thick for precision Trijicon HD. ;) .245 tall front sight. Yellow/green.

[Balisong]

Heh heh heh

The too thick for precision Trijicon HD. ;) .245 tall front sight. Yellow/green.

That's damn impressive!

[Balisong]

Heh heh heh

The too thick for precision Trijicon HD. ;) .245 tall front sight. Yellow/green.

I had to come back to this. What's your secret for a group like that at 50 yards with those sights? I would think they'd totally obscure that head box. And they are the original HD right, not the newer thinner HDR or whatever it's called?

[JHC]

I had to come back to this. What's your secret for a group like that at 50 yards with those sights? I would think they'd totally obscure that head box. And they are the original HD right, not the newer thinner HDR or whatever it's called?

Standard HD
The headbox balanced on the post, centered on the post.
Other hits in head from other attempts

Mostly it's getting good presses right. Not sights.

Don't ask me for 10 😂

[STI]

What non boutique defense ammo are people getting best 25yd and up accuracy with? I keep shooting 147 HST and I wonder if I should broaden my horizons.

[JHC]

What non boutique defense ammo are people getting best 25yd and up accuracy with? I keep shooting 147 HST and I wonder if I should broaden my horizons.

My tastes run Fiocchi or S&B 115 from sgammo.com. Not defense loads obviously

[GAP]

What non boutique defense ammo are people getting best 25yd and up accuracy with? I keep shooting 147 HST and I wonder if I should broaden my horizons.

I find the 147 HST most accurate with the smaller 9’s and Gold Dot 124gr +p the most accurate with Glock 19 and up.

[JAD]

Of all the surveys I’ve done critical duty has had the most first place finishes. Runner up 9BP, tertiary to the old Ranger 127+P+.

[TC215]

A guy at work told me today that he was recently told by a Glock rep that all Gen 5 models will soon start shipping without the cutout. He’s on a list with the local blue label dealer to get the first couple that come in.

[Doc_Glock]

My tastes run Fiocchi or S&B 115 from sgammo.com. Not defense loads obviously

Both those are shooting amazingly for me and they are cheap.

[pew_pew]

Both those are shooting amazingly for me and they are cheap.

Both are good except 124g is best grain.

[Gio]

What non boutique defense ammo are people getting best 25yd and up accuracy with? I keep shooting 147 HST and I wonder if I should broaden my horizons.

I find Speer G2 to be exceptionally accurate.

[Clobbersaurus]

Taken from my training journal:

“I also did a couple mags WHO and SHO, which resulted in my first major malfunction with the Gen 5:

http://i.imgur.com/Yff7TEj.jpg

Hmmmmm. I honstly can’t remember when I last cleaned and lubed it. I also had a light strike today. The round lit off of the second try, so I wonder if it’s getting a bit gunky in the FP channel and under the extractor, (edit to add: which I have never cleaned). I also had the gun lock back with rounds still in the mag when doing call it and leave it. This has happened a few times now on that drill and I think it has to do with me pushing up on the slide lock lever with very aggressive movement. “

This pitsol has 7,244 rounds through it.

[HeavyDuty]

What’s the groupthink about whether Glock will eventually offer the 34.5 in a non-MOS version?

[JSGlock34]

What’s the groupthink about whether Glock will eventually offer the 34.5 in a non-MOS version?

I suspect they’ll get there, along with a 45 MOS. I think there is a market in the competition community for a G34 with the dovetail in the normal location and FCS.

But they do still have a G44 and G47 to release...I’d be surprised if one of these models didn’t hit shelves around the NRA show.

[RAM Engineer]

I suspect they’ll get there, along with a 45 MOS. I think there is a market in the competition community for a G34 with the dovetail in the normal location and FCS.

But they do still have a G44 and G47 to release...I’d be surprised if one of these models didn’t hit shelves around the NRA show.

What are the 44 and 47? I’ve checked out of this massive thread and don’t know what page to go back to for those details.

[johncorey]

A guy at work told me today that he was recently told by a Glock rep that all Gen 5 models will soon start shipping without the cutout. He’s on a list with the local blue label dealer to get the first couple that come in.

Have you/has anyone heard anymore on these hitting the shelves? GT seems to be utterly clueless about this, which makes me sad.

[JSGlock34]

What are the 44 and 47? I’ve checked out of this massive thread and don’t know what page to go back to for those details.

Glock hasn't announced the G44 or G47 yet. The G45 and G48 have already hit store shelves. The G46 exists and has been the subject of magazine articles but is intended for the European police market only.

There is speculation that the G44 is a rimfire.

[CalAlumnus]

Anyone know when the grey frame Gen 5s will be released? They're appearing in the Lipsey's catalog and at various online retailers, but out of stock everywhere. Looks like FDE is coming as well.

http://www.lipseys.com/itemdetail.aspx?itemno=GLPA1950203GF

[Kyle Reese]

Ive recently completed the excellent GLOCK Instructor Workshop in Smyrna,GA, utilizing my Gen 5 17. It gobbled through 1,000 rounds of 100 grain 9mm frangible without complaint. Total round count on my 17.5 since September 2017 is 12,525. I continue to be impressed with the Gen 5 GLOCKs....

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[noguns]

Worked out the 19X at 50 yards. Meh results. Beat it like a dog with my RTF2 G19 with KKM barrel. Then dropped that KKM barrel into the 19X and the Marksman barrel into the RTF2.

BOOM. Low strike flyer but four shot group just stupid. 6:00 hold on the head at 50 yards. I'll leave the KKM barrel in the 19X for a spell. Marksman barrel in the RTF2.

Interesting to me is that in each of my Gen 3 or 4s I put a KKM barrel in (3 19s and 3 17s) the KKM raised the POI such that I got .245 tall front sights to dial them in.

But swapping OEM Marksman barrel with KKM G19 barrel had the same POI in the 19X. I changed the OEM tritium set to HD's from another pistols with a .245 tall front and got a nice just on the top of the front post POI. I guess the Gen 5 tolerances are such that the KKM doesn't change that aspect vs Marksman barrel.


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Would you say I could drop in a marksman gen 5 barrel or kkm in my rtf2 and have accuracy close to a gen 5?

I have two rtf2s I really like. I didn't realize the gen 5 barrel was compatible with the gen 3.

Thanks.

[JHC]

Would you say I could drop in a marksman gen 5 barrel or kkm in my rtf2 and have accuracy close to a gen 5?

I have two rtf2s I really like. I didn't realize the gen 5 barrel was compatible with the gen 3.

Thanks.

Can't say. I think multiple tolerances are tighter in Gen 5 guns but it would be worth a try to me. I've no idea what they cost or where you buy one.

Only G19s have that commonality as far as I know.

[RAM Engineer]

Has there been any talk of a Gen5 G26 MOS gun? I thought I had read that the Mk26 Mod 1 was a Gen4 G26 MOS, but I've never seen any factory MOS G26 guns in the wild. I'm to the point now where I want all my guns to at least be CAPABLE of mounting an optic without aftermarket milling.

[HeavyDuty]

There was a lot of buzz that the non-MOS 19.5 would have a running change to the same non-cutout gripframe as the MOS version. Has anyone heard more about this?

[OkieHeat]

There was a lot of buzz that the non-MOS 19.5 would have a running change to the same non-cutout gripframe as the MOS version. Has anyone heard more about this?

I saw one at a gun show this weekend.

[MRW]

According to a Glock rep I spoke with 2 weeks ago, the cutouts are going away. We didn't discuss when, or if it was limited to specific models. He said the feedback about the cutouts led to them being dropped.

[Magsz]

According to a Glock rep I spoke with 2 weeks ago, the cutouts are going away. We didn't discuss when, or if it was limited to specific models. He said the feedback about the cutouts led to them being dropped.

Was there any mention of the non MOS guns also getting the forward serrations?

[HeavyDuty]

I saw one at a gun show this weekend.


Time to start asking my local BL dealer, then. Thanks!

[MRW]

Was there any mention of the non MOS guns also getting the forward serrations?

I didn't think to ask. I'll see if I can find out.

[TC215]

Lipsey’s announced Gen5 17s and 19s with colored frames today, but they have the cut-out.

http://lipseys.com/itemdetail.aspx?itemno=GLPA1950203DE

El Cid

[OkieHeat]

Time to start asking my local BL dealer, then. Thanks!

I hope i did not miss speak. I have a glock 19.5 with cutout and was happy to see a 19.5 without cutout. But i do not remember seeing mos plate.

[El Cid]

Lipsey’s announced Gen5 17s and 19s with colored frames today, but they have the cut-out.

http://lipseys.com/itemdetail.aspx?itemno=GLPA1950203DE

El Cid

Excellent - thanks! Now it may be time to trade/sell some of the Gen 4 guns. I see they have gray and FDE. I know BFG was another wholesaler... can't recall who did OD green. They even offer it for the G26 Gen 5.

And the cutout doesn't bother me. I actually prefer it for one-hand manipulations.

Now if I can just pace myself.... lol!

[L-2]

For Post 2640,

Davidson's (aka galleryofguns.com) had/has OD Green; https://www.galleryofguns.com/genie/default.aspx?pg=mfg&mfg=Glock

Glockmeister had/has BattleFieldGreen.
https://www.glockmeister.com/Battlefield-Green/products/455/

Whether either are of these companies are the initial/sole distributors, I don't know. These colors seem to all be in Gen4 at these places.

[El Cid]

For Post 2640,

Davidson's (aka galleryofguns.com) had/has OD Green; https://www.galleryofguns.com/genie/default.aspx?pg=mfg&mfg=Glock

Glockmeister had/has BattleFieldGreen.
https://www.glockmeister.com/Battlefield-Green/products/455/

Whether either are of these companies are the initial/sole distributors, I don't know. These colors seem to all be in Gen4 at these places.

Thanks. Those are retailers. I'm pretty confident that Amchar is the wholesaler who gets Glock to do the OD and BFG runs. I'm sure it's only a matter of time before we see Gen 5's.

[L-2]

Thanks for the distributor name. I'd not previously even heard of the company.
Amchar's website indicates it's the exclusive distributor for the BFG color. I didn't research the O.D. color, however.

https://amchar.com/

[EVP]

People give Glock a lot of crap for the lack on innovation(I personally don’t care and if a company does something well, then they should keep doing it and make small incremental positive changes along the way, good on them)

But... Glock marketing and sales is genius, wait till enthusiasm dips and then release new colors and then a resurgence of interest and sales follows on nothing more then color. Good on them

[HCM]

Thanks. Those are retailers. I'm pretty confident that Amchar is the wholesaler who gets Glock to do the OD and BFG runs. I'm sure it's only a matter of time before we see Gen 5's.

Davidson’s is a wholesaler like Armchar. I beleive the Vickers Guns and the grey, OD and tan frames are Davidson’s exclusives.

[MSparks909]

What are the odds we see a G45 MOS “Tactical” with a factory threaded barrel anytime soon? I want a RDS capable Glock without sending the slide off to be milled and I’d prefer a factory turn-key option. Maybe NRA show?

[El Cid]

Davidson’s is a wholesaler like Armchar. I beleive the Vickers Guns and the grey, OD and tan frames are Davidson’s exclusives.

I didn’t know that. Thanks.

The tan (FDE) and Gray have been Lipsey’s exclusives but the LAV editions may be someone else. If only we could get them to work together I could have a Gen 5 RTF2 G34 in something other than black.

[PensFan]

I didn’t know that. Thanks.

The tan (FDE) and Gray have been Lipsey’s exclusives but the LAV editions may be someone else. If only we could get them to work together I could have a Gen 5 RTF2 G34 in something other than black.

OD, FDE, Grey (including LAV) have been Lipsey exclusives
BFG has been an Amchar exclusive

I wouldn't hold my breath on RTF2 in a Gen4 or Gen5 format.

[El Cid]

OD, FDE, Grey (including LAV) have been Lipsey exclusives
BFG has been an Amchar exclusive

I wouldn't hold my breath on RTF2 in a Gen4 or Gen5 format.

I’m not clicking “like” on your post because it makes me sad. Lol!

How about the 17L in a Gen 5 or colored frame? Other than RTF2 guns it’s my only Gen 3.

[HCM]

[QUOTE=El Cid;844475]I didn’t know that. Thanks.

The tan (FDE) and Gray have been Lipsey’s exclusives but the LAV editions may be someone else. If only we could get them to work together I could have a Gen 5 RTF2 G34 in something other than black

I may be confusing Linsey’s and Davidson’s but Davidson’s is their wholesale competitor and has their own exclusives.

[PensFan]

[QUOTE=El Cid;844475]I didn’t know that. Thanks.

The tan (FDE) and Gray have been Lipsey’s exclusives but the LAV editions may be someone else. If only we could get them to work together I could have a Gen 5 RTF2 G34 in something other than black

I may be confusing Linsey’s and Davidson’s but Davidson’s is their wholesale competitor and has their own exclusives.

Mostly what I've seen Davidson's do is send guns to cerakote shops to cerakote frames, slides, and barrels.

[10mmfanboy]

Grabagun already has gen 5 g19 and g17 in fde and grey frames.

[TC215]

This came today. I ended up selling my G48 and buying this instead. I’ve been wanting to buy another 19.5 (my current “back-up” 19 is a Gen3), but I may end up making this one my primary. I like the trigger much more than my early 19.5. Now I need to order a set of BOLD sights and another SCD.

http://i.imgur.com/5CV9HFI.jpg

[EJO]

Good looking gun, TC! I wish Glock would have continued with the slide treatment. I do enjoy the frame and slide on my 19X. Oh well, I'll still probably pick one up. I am glad to see they are still doing the cut out and no slide serrations.

[SW CQB 45]

This came today. I ended up selling my G48 and buying this instead. I’ve been wanting to buy another 19.5 (my current “back-up” 19 is a Gen3), but I may end up making this one my primary. I like the trigger much more than my early 19.5. Now I need to order a set of BOLD sights and another SCD.


I was issued a G17 Gen5 today for duty. The Glock night sights are not my favorite. I painted the rear tritium dots with flat black paint. I ordered a grip plug to clean up my mag changes. I removed the sharp edge on the front strap cut out.

What BOLD sights you going with?

I shot a Gen4 G17 last week with Ameriglo Hacks.....I did not think I would like them but they were fast. 25 and in are a plus, but beyond that.... it will be hard to be precise.

[TC215]

I was issued a G17 Gen5 today for duty. The Glock night sights are not my favorite. I painted the rear tritium dots with flat black paint. I ordered a grip plug to clean up my mag changes. I removed the sharp edge on the front strap cut out.

What BOLD sights you going with?

I shot a Gen4 G17 last week with Ameriglo Hacks.....I did not think I would like them but they were fast. 25 and in are a plus, but beyond that.... it will be hard to be precise.

https://www.gtdist.com/glock-ameriglo-bold-night-sights.html

I really like these. I preferred Heinie Straight 8’s for a long time, but my vision isn’t what it was 5 years ago, and I’ve found that the orange front sight really helps.

[spj]

I have the Hackathorn’s with the orange front sight on a G43 that I really like. I recently purchased a G5 G 19 with Glock night sights that I really like as well. Also picked up a G 45 at the same time. I put on a set of Trijicon HDs with the green dot. They hit about 5 inches high at 25 and I had to file down the rear sight. Like the hackathorns the best of the group. The g5 trigger was a big upgrade over my g4.

[EJO]

Thanks for the link TC, just ordered a couple more sets.

[SW CQB 45]

here is my new issue. Really nice bone stock trigger with my home jobber hacks. The orange will probably be short lived out of a 7360/7378.

https://i.imgur.com/2hy3budl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/99X4xsLl.jpg

[Magsz]

here is my new issue. Really nice bone stock trigger with my home jobber hacks. The orange will probably be short lived out of a 7360/7378.

https://i.imgur.com/2hy3budl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/99X4xsLl.jpg

You would be surprised. I have been using Ameriglo Bold sights for more than a year now in my 7360 and its holding up just fine. Im actually pleasantly surprised.

[Gun Mutt]

...I am glad to see they are still doing the cut out...

I've seen plenty of people (some of whom I genuinely respect) say they don't mind the cut out, but I'm pretty sure I've never seen it enthusiastically embraced. Just wanted to confirm it wasn't a typo or something.

[breakingtime91]

how is ejection on the glock 26 gen 5?

[HeavyDuty]

how is ejection on the glock 26 gen 5?

Mine ejects consistently and vigorously.

[ASH556]

I'm 1,333 rounds into my Gen 5 Glock experience with a pair of G45's. One is at 554 rounds and the other is at 779 (I've also got 573 Beretta rounds and a few hundred .22 rounds in the mix as well) since Jan 1 of 2019. Zero malfunctions or stoppages (as expected). I find them both more accurate and flatter tracking with an easier to manage trigger than my Gen 4 17's. Magwells also make for faster reloads. I see no downsides and have zero complaints.

[TC215]

I'm not crazy with the "drive the dot" sight picture on the Gen5's. The front sight for the BOLD's is .200". The BOLD front sight for the Gen4's is .180". Does anyone know if I install a .180" front sight on my Gen5 if it will change the POA/POI to the tip of the front sight blade? Or will it make the POI too high?

[ASH556]

I'm not crazy with the "drive the dot" sight picture on the Gen5's. The front sight for the BOLD's is .200". The BOLD front sight for the Gen4's is .180". Does anyone know if I install a .180" front sight on my Gen5 if it will change the POA/POI to the tip of the front sight blade? Or will it make the POI too high?

https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?34680-Gen-5-Glock-sight-survey

Depends on the rear height. .256 Ameriglo rear hits just below tips of blades with .180 front at 25yds.

[Larry Sellers]

I'm not crazy with the "drive the dot" sight picture on the Gen5's. The front sight for the BOLD's is .200". The BOLD front sight for the Gen4's is .180". Does anyone know if I install a .180" front sight on my Gen5 if it will change the POA/POI to the tip of the front sight blade? Or will it make the POI too high?


I believe (emphasis on believe) that a 42/43 front sight is .190, that may be what you seek.

[TC215]

https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?34680-Gen-5-Glock-sight-survey

Depends on the rear height. .256 Ameriglo rear hits just below tips of blades with .180 front at 25yds.


I believe (emphasis on believe) that a 42/43 front sight is .190, that may be what you seek.

Thank you both, I appreciate it. Looks like the BOLD rear sight is .267.

[JHC]

I'm not crazy with the "drive the dot" sight picture on the Gen5's. The front sight for the BOLD's is .200". The BOLD front sight for the Gen4's is .180". Does anyone know if I install a .180" front sight on my Gen5 if it will change the POA/POI to the tip of the front sight blade? Or will it make the POI too high?

I don't like drive the dot either. On my 19X and G45 I just cannibalized standard Glock HD sets with .245 tall fronts. POI is just over the top of the front post.

Here I was holding the bottom of the credit card at 25 with the 19X in timed fire cadence

35295

I threw one Mike

[JBP55]

I'm not crazy with the "drive the dot" sight picture on the Gen5's. The front sight for the BOLD's is .200". The BOLD front sight for the Gen4's is .180". Does anyone know if I install a .180" front sight on my Gen5 if it will change the POA/POI to the tip of the front sight blade? Or will it make the POI too high?

Should raise the POI slightly less than 3" at 25 yards which I prefer. I run the Gen 4 height sights on all my Gen 5 Glocks.

[SW CQB 45]

You would be surprised. I have been using Ameriglo Bold sights for more than a year now in my 7360 and its holding up just fine. Im actually pleasantly surprised.

We got a bad batch of overly tight Safariland 7378 with a TLR1 using Gen 5 G17.

An officer brought me one and we used my piece and ran it through 4 different holsters.... well over 25 draws. I checked my front sight paint job.... still looks good.

I hope to qual with it on Friday.

[EJO]

I've seen plenty of people (some of whom I genuinely respect) say they don't mind the cut out, but I'm pretty sure I've never seen it enthusiastically embraced. Just wanted to confirm it wasn't a typo or something.

No typo, you read it right.

[EJO]

how is ejection on the glock 26 gen 5?

No problem on mine. Ejection is strong, consistent and has never thrown it back at my face. Ejects much better than my old gen4 26.

[EJO]

I'm not crazy with the "drive the dot" sight picture on the Gen5's. The front sight for the BOLD's is .200". The BOLD front sight for the Gen4's is .180". Does anyone know if I install a .180" front sight on my Gen5 if it will change the POA/POI to the tip of the front sight blade? Or will it make the POI too high?

TC, it will and it is what I run on all my gen5 guns.

[JodyH]

Just curious if anyone else can feel the orange follower mags doing their thing under recoil?
I've felt it with both my orange follower 45 and orange follower 26 mags.
I shoot, it feeds, then I feel the magazine spring and rounds inside the mag rearrange themselves under recoil.
I don't remember feeling this prior to the Gen5 mags.
It doesn't do it all the time, and is usually when i'm about halfway through the magazine.
:confused:

[ASH556]

Just curious if anyone else can feel the orange follower mags doing their thing under recoil?
I've felt it with both my orange follower 45 and orange follower 26 mags.
I shoot, it feeds, then I feel the magazine spring and rounds inside the mag rearrange themselves under recoil.
I don't remember feeling this prior to the Gen5 mags.
It doesn't do it all the time, and is usually when i'm about halfway through the magazine.
:confused:

I've not noticed this. However, I do have an orange follower mag that regularly fails to drop.

[Larry Sellers]

Just curious if anyone else can feel the orange follower mags doing their thing under recoil?
I've felt it with both my orange follower 45 and orange follower 26 mags.
I shoot, it feeds, then I feel the magazine spring and rounds inside the mag rearrange themselves under recoil.
I don't remember feeling this prior to the Gen5 mags.
It doesn't do it all the time, and is usually when i'm about halfway through the magazine.
:confused:Yes. I've had the same sensation with the new production gen 4 magazines as well. Same magazines that will hold 18 rounds.

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[RJ]

I'm not crazy with the "drive the dot" sight picture on the Gen5's. The front sight for the BOLD's is .200". The BOLD front sight for the Gen4's is .180". Does anyone know if I install a .180" front sight on my Gen5 if it will change the POA/POI to the tip of the front sight blade? Or will it make the POI too high?

I’m still figuring out how to shoot, mind, but I have 0.180” high fronts on my G19.5, use a drive the dot picture and generally get PoI = PoA. 25 yd with LM 115, for an example.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190220/33b1fa1c11d6c42e3c90711467de1151.jpg

Same close in. I can most times drill a 1” square at 5 yd; same sight picture.

I’ve heard it varies with person to person and gun to gun, but like I said, I’m pretty new to shooting.


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[Joe Mac]

Just curious if anyone else can feel the orange follower mags doing their thing under recoil?
I've felt it with both my orange follower 45 and orange follower 26 mags.
I shoot, it feeds, then I feel the magazine spring and rounds inside the mag rearrange themselves under recoil.
I don't remember feeling this prior to the Gen5 mags.
It doesn't do it all the time, and is usually when i'm about halfway through the magazine.
:confused:

Not sure if this is the same issue, but in the past year on the range I've seen several instances in which students had new production Glock mags with clunky feeding or failures to feed. Each time I have traced the problem to the plastic tab on the inside front of the mag (about 3/4" down), where the plastic inserts into the steel mag body -- i.e. a bit too much plastic there, interfering with the follower (or perhaps grabbing at bullet noses). A few strokes with a file, or simply scraping away the excess plastic with the tip of a blade, has cured the problem in short order.

I've seen this 3-4 times in the past year, to the point that I now probe this spot with a punch on any new mags I buy.

[SW CQB 45]

Ready to qual on Thursday... weather permitting

https://i.imgur.com/c6dK5sKl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/D4cTT81l.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/YKN1Wsxl.jpg

[ST911]

Not sure if this is the same issue, but in the past year on the range I've seen several instances in which students had new production Glock mags with clunky feeding or failures to feed. Each time I have traced the problem to the plastic tab on the inside front of the mag (about 3/4" down), where the plastic inserts into the steel mag body -- i.e. a bit too much plastic there, interfering with the follower (or perhaps grabbing at bullet noses). A few strokes with a file, or simply scraping away the excess plastic with the tip of a blade, has cured the problem in short order. I've seen this 3-4 times in the past year, to the point that I now probe this spot with a punch on any new mags I buy.

A bit of plastic (flashing?) at those seams isn't uncommon, and usually wears away on its own. If it splinters a bit over time, it can be trimmed.

Not unique to the gen5 mags.

[SW CQB 45]

I qualed with my Gen5 G17 and almost pulled one out from 25 yards. I need to get used to it as it seems to have a left drift with centered factory painted night sights.

Course of Fire
25 yards 5 shots from behind cover
15 yards 10 shots w/mag change
7 yards 5 shots 5 seconds
7 yards 10 shots w/mag change 20 seconds
5 yards 5 R/H and 5 L/H
3 yards 2 shots from a level 3 duty holster 3 seconds

https://i.imgur.com/8p3lrjLl.jpg

A co-worker was with me and I shot his Gen4 G17 with Hackathorns. Man that front sight is wide with a huge rear notch. I shot the same target and shot 5 from the 25 at the head. The front sight dam near covered the entire head at that distance. I recall my sights being left and right of center when it off.... shows on the head.

The rest of the 45 rounds, I aimed at low center of the target. His gun shoots good, but the Hacks are challenging at 25 yards.

https://i.imgur.com/NuA7y0dl.jpg

[Moshjath]

KKM is ready with their Gen 5 Roland Special comped barrels. I ordered mine over the phone yesterday.

[JHC]

I qualed with my Gen5 G17 and almost pulled one out from 25 yards. I need to get used to it as it seems to have a left drift with centered factory painted night sights.

Course of Fire
25 yards 5 shots from behind cover
15 yards 10 shots w/mag change
7 yards 5 shots 5 seconds
7 yards 10 shots w/mag change 20 seconds
5 yards 5 R/H and 5 L/H
3 yards 2 shots from a level 3 duty holster 3 seconds

https://i.imgur.com/8p3lrjLl.jpg

A co-worker was with me and I shot his Gen4 G17 with Hackathorns. Man that front sight is wide with a huge rear notch. I shot the same target and shot 5 from the 25 at the head. The front sight dam near covered the entire head at that distance. I recall my sights being left and right of center when it off.... shows on the head.

The rest of the 45 rounds, I aimed at low center of the target. His gun shoots good, but the Hacks are challenging at 25 yards.

https://i.imgur.com/NuA7y0dl.jpg

That's nice shooting!

FWIW and YMMV - and I just saw this in spades last weekend - If I try to "stage" a 25 yard precision shot with the 19X or G45 oh lordy left snatcheroo. If I keep the trigger moving (GJM pushed this hard a year or two ago and I ignored it at the time) and it straightens out.

[SW CQB 45]

That's nice shooting!

FWIW and YMMV - and I just saw this in spades last weekend - If I try to "stage" a 25 yard precision shot with the 19X or G45 oh lordy left snatcheroo. If I keep the trigger moving (GJM pushed this hard a year or two ago and I ignored it at the time) and it straightens out.

Thanks

I parked my 1911 and going to use issued Glocks for now.

That is interesting... definitely going to try it out.

[JHC]

Thanks

I parked my 1911 and going to use issued Glocks for now.

That is interesting... definitely going to try it out.

Ohhh you said that word. 1911 :D I was shooting them when GJM first made the pitch on a very good thread he started. I didn't pay a ton of attention as I was quite self-satisfied with my results shooting 1911s with very crisp triggers and staging at the wall of my Gen 3/4 Glocks. That changed, most abrubtly when I shit the bed shooting Sunday - then remembered that advice driving home analyzing WTF just happened, then got back out Monday to confirm with the new way.

[JHC]

Thanks

I parked my 1911 and going to use issued Glocks for now.

That is interesting... definitely going to try it out.

Found it. Much longer ago than I thought. I think this where it started. https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?4942-Glock-shooting-rolling-the-trigger/page2

[Larry Sellers]

That's nice shooting!

FWIW and YMMV - and I just saw this in spades last weekend - If I try to "stage" a 25 yard precision shot with the 19X or G45 oh lordy left snatcheroo. If I keep the trigger moving (GJM pushed this hard a year or two ago and I ignored it at the time) and it straightens out.This in spades. If I run the trigger with a constant motion as GJM suggests my 25 yard scores increase.

I'll try and run it this afternoon and see how it pans out

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[ASH556]

^^all true!

[Bucky]

KKM is ready with their Gen 5 Roland Special comped barrels. I ordered mine over the phone yesterday.

Will there be as high a demand, putting aside the “marksman barrel”.

[Larry Sellers]

Considering a set of the hackathon Ameriglo sights for my G45...

The GL-433 model

Anyone have experience with these on a gen 5? I'd be getting the gen 4 (.180 front sight) for my pistol.

Thanks!

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[Blackbag]

Has anyone been able to confirm if Regular Gen 5 17’s and 19’s are available without the magwell cut out? Thanks.

[JSGlock34]

Considering a set of the hackathon Ameriglo sights for my G45...

The GL-433 model

Anyone have experience with these on a gen 5? I'd be getting the gen 4 (.180 front sight) for my pistol.

Thanks!

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I thought the Hackathorn combination is a .140 front with a .180 rear notch. Personally I find that to be too wide a rear notch. Among Ameriglo options for the GEN5 I'd go with the Agent or Bold sights before the Hacks.

I wish either Trijicon or Ameriglo offered a tighter notch to pair with their thinner high-vis sights. My preferences these days run to a hi-vis .120-.125 front sight matched with a .140-.150 wide rear notch - I'm getting excellent results with the Wilson Combat-Vickers rear sight and Ameriglo Pro-Glo front combination.

[johncorey]

I spoke with Glock HQ last week about the cut on the front of the grip, and the information given to me, was that for the time being, only the MOS models will be released without it. The standard 17s/19s will continue to have the cut.

My interpretation was that they most likely have so many produced/allotted, but clearly in the future a shift is possible.

[Blackbag]

I spoke with Glock HQ last week about the cut on the front of the grip, and the information given to me, was that for the time being, only the MOS models will be released without it. The standard 17s/19s will continue to have the cut.

My interpretation was that they most likely have so many produced/allotted, but clearly in the future a shift is possible.

Thank you, kind sir!

John

[JAH 3rd]

I have a Glock 21 Gen 3 on which I installed the Hackathorn set from AmeriGlo. The front post and rear notch are wider than most sights. These sights are not for target shooting, but for me, I got them for easy sight acquisition. These eyes aren't getting any younger. I like them and do for me what I want. I know you were asking about the 45, just wanted to share my experience with them.

[LockedBreech]

I caved and put a G45 with Ameriglos on order at my local gun shop. Prices are 5-10% in excess of online but they're super nice and a great local outfit with fishing gear too.

I am glad for Glock's variety these days, because the 45 fits me like a glove. The snappy G19 sight radius I like so much, the new accurate barrel, nice trigger, and nice finish, front serrations, my favorite kind of night sights, and a longer grip for my big fat hand.

I still intend to stick with my M2.0s for carry and HD, but I wanted a Gen5 Glock and the 45 checks more of my boxes than any other model they currently make.

[Doc_Glock]

I caved and put a G45 with Ameriglos on order at my local gun shop. Prices are 5-10% in excess of online but they're super nice and a great local outfit with fishing gear too.

I am glad for Glock's variety these days, because the 45 fits me like a glove. The snappy G19 sight radius I like so much, the new accurate barrel, nice trigger, and nice finish, front serrations, my favorite kind of night sights, and a longer grip for my big fat hand.

I still intend to stick with my M2.0s for carry and HD, but I wanted a Gen5 Glock and the 45 checks more of my boxes than any other model they currently make.

You will love it. It’s amazing IMO.

[Blackbag]

I caved and put a G45 with Ameriglos on order at my local gun shop. Prices are 5-10% in excess of online but they're super nice and a great local outfit with fishing gear too.

I am glad for Glock's variety these days, because the 45 fits me like a glove. The snappy G19 sight radius I like so much, the new accurate barrel, nice trigger, and nice finish, front serrations, my favorite kind of night sights, and a longer grip for my big fat hand.

I just did the same thing today. The 48 and 43X are not approved yet for sale in my state. I really liked the balance of the 45. I really hope it turns out to be a good decision.

[TC215]

Has anyone been able to confirm if Regular Gen 5 17’s and 19’s are available without the magwell cut out? Thanks.

I spoke with a reliable source yesterday that said Glock will not continue to produce two different frames (regular Gen5 vs. MOS) and will be going to the MOS/no cut-out frame across the board in the not-so-distant future.

[Beat Trash]

I spoke with a reliable source yesterday that said Glock will not continue to produce two different frames (regular Gen5 vs. MOS) and will be going to the MOS/no cut-out frame across the board in the not-so-distant future.

Excellent news.

I've been wanting to buy another Gen5 G19. But after shooting my G45, I am holding off until I can get a Gen5 G19 without the frame cutout, as well as the grove cutout in the slide that the G45 has, that aids in ejection of the cases.

[WobblyPossum]

I guess I’m one of the few that likes the frame cut out. I like the idea a lot for one handed malfunction clearances.

[Blackbag]

I spoke with a reliable source yesterday that said Glock will not continue to produce two different frames (regular Gen5 vs. MOS) and will be going to the MOS/no cut-out frame across the board in the not-so-distant future.

Thank you sir!

[Bucky]

I spoke with a reliable source yesterday that said Glock will not continue to produce two different frames (regular Gen5 vs. MOS) and will be going to the MOS/no cut-out frame across the board in the not-so-distant future.

Doesn’t Glock still need to make the FBI M models, and isn’t the cutout a requirement?

[Duelist]

I guess I’m one of the few that likes the frame cut out. I like the idea a lot for one handed malfunction clearances.

Easy enough to do yourself. Lots simpler process than filling it in.

[Leroy Suggs]

Unless I look :cool: at it I don't know it's there on my G19.5.
So the cutout makes no difference for me.

[TC215]

Doesn’t Glock still need to make the FBI M models, and isn’t the cutout a requirement?

I believe changes can be made, but I’m not sure how that works. There are others here that would know, though. I know the bureau originally had non-railed Professionals, then switched to the railed model, so I believe it could be done. HCM might know.

[HCM]

I believe changes can be made, but I’m not sure how that works. There are others here that would know, though. I know the bureau originally had non-railed Professionals, then switched to the railed model, so I believe it could be done. HCM might know.

It would necessitate a contract change. It’s possible but the bureau would have to agree to it and my understanding is the Bureau wants the cut out for stripping mags during one handed manipulations.

Glock makes what, 60,000 guns a month ? If they can keep making Gen 3s for CA and SOCOM contracts they can keep making cut out frames for the GOV contracts. The FBI, DEA, ATF AND US DOS are all transitioning to the 9mm M models, I’m sure USMS will follow suite soon if they are not already. More than enough business to keep Ms rolling off the line as is.

[EJO]

I guess I’m one of the few that likes the frame cut out. I like the idea a lot for one handed malfunction clearances.

You are not alone. I'll wait for the haters to sell their used 17 and 19 with cut out when they upgrade to the non cut out version.

[SW CQB 45]

my issued G5G17 came with factory Glock night sights. I am not a fan of 3 dot sights.... and the dept wont pay for aftermarket sights.

I decided to try something cheap as it was my cost.... just change the front to F/O

I ordered a .115W .160T Dawson Precision to match my .135" notch factory Glock rear tritium that I painted black.

They were qualifying some officers today and I jumped in to check POA POI

I have always staged my trigger for the 25 yards shots (just 5 rounds) and decided to try keeping the trigger moving. 4 shots felt really good and it was the last shot when the gun fired my sights were left of center. Damn.... I jacked that one up.

ALL ME :mad:

https://i.imgur.com/m1j1YiPl.jpg

I need some work on the 25 yard press. The neck shot was an up close double tap when I messed up the draw from concealment and had to press the trigger hard and fast to make the time.

[TC215]

I'm not crazy with the "drive the dot" sight picture on the Gen5's. The front sight for the BOLD's is .200". The BOLD front sight for the Gen4's is .180". Does anyone know if I install a .180" front sight on my Gen5 if it will change the POA/POI to the tip of the front sight blade? Or will it make the POI too high?


I believe (emphasis on believe) that a 42/43 front sight is .190, that may be what you seek.


Should raise the POI slightly less than 3" at 25 yards which I prefer. I run the Gen 4 height sights on all my Gen 5 Glocks.

To follow up on this-- I ended up putting Gen4 BOLDs (.180 front sight) on my new FDE 19.5. The POI is a little higher than I'd like with the .180.

I called Ameriglo today to see if I could get a .190 BOLD front sight. I was told that they had the G43 BOLD sight that is .190, as mentioned above, but that it was thinner than the standard front sights. He went to check if they had any in stock, and when he came back, he told me that he found the thin .190 BOLD sight, and also a standard-width .190 BOLD front sight that he didn't realize they had. I ordered one and will try it out soon.

[fwrun]

I have noticed with my 19.5 that my Vogel-esque grip screws with the slide release. If I draw and fire as I typically would, the slide fails to lock back on the last round 75-80%+ of the time. I was relatively used to this in previous gens but the fatter slide release on this guy makes it more common.

I know Vogel uses trimmed 33rd Springs in his Production mags to make slide lock more common for him, so I am going to try a G17 spring in the 19 mag. All 15 seat just fine, and I will report back on Tuesday with the results.

The second bad result of the chunkier slide release- if I cheat my grip when shooting further distance to make the trigger pull easier, It will prematurely lock back. This has only happened a couple times during untimed long distance shots, but it’s a reminder to firmly grasp it.

[Mike C]

TC215 did you by chance get the part number/sku from them for the standard width .190 BOLD front? Thanks!

[TC215]

TC215 did you by chance get the part number/sku from them for the standard width .190 BOLD front? Thanks!

I did not, but when it comes in I'll get it for you.

[fwrun]

I have noticed with my 19.5 that my Vogel-esque grip screws with the slide release. If I draw and fire as I typically would, the slide fails to lock back on the last round 75-80%+ of the time. I was relatively used to this in previous gens but the fatter slide release on this guy makes it more common.

I know Vogel uses trimmed 33rd Springs in his Production mags to make slide lock more common for him, so I am going to try a G17 spring in the 19 mag. All 15 seat just fine, and I will report back on Tuesday with the results.

Update on the G17 magazine spring in the G19: During drills at the range today, the slide locked back every time with the longer spring. I ordered a couple more 17 springs from the LGS to put in my gen 5 mags. This may be a long term solution for me, and eases what is my only real gripe about the Gen 5 guns.

[TC215]

TC215 did you by chance get the part number/sku from them for the standard width .190 BOLD front? Thanks!

GL-212-190-ORC

[Mike C]

GL-212-190-ORC

Big thank you Sir.

[1Rangemaster]

I’ll leave a little contribution here, FWIW:
Procured a new Gen5G19MOS today, and mounted Dead Air “Switch Sights” on it in anticipation of putting a dot sight on in the future, and perhaps a suppressor setup.
Shot a few drills: 2”Dot Challenge, Dot Torture and the “Super Test”. Dots @ 3 yards(should go to 5 next).
Ammo: 147 WW fmj, 150gr. “Syntech” and 115 S&B ball.
No stoppages/malfs; ejection strong and consistent to 4 o’clock. I thought the trigger to be one of the better Gen5 triggers I’ve worked-little”creep” at the end of the stroke, but not detrimental.
Results:20/20 on “Challenge”;49/50 on Torture-I pushes one left shooting hand only-on me. 288/300 on “Super Test”which is pretty good for me.
Sights were”drive dot” in closed configuration, did not check flipped up.
This one is a keeper, I do believe!
For my use, I had extended slide slide stop lever installed and a Vickers/Tango Down slide plate-no issues.

[Greg]

Well, the fine folks in Smyrna shipped my first Gen5 pistol to me - a Glock 17. (Made in Austria) I won this one at a GSSF match (I think it was Reno) ~ 5 months seems to be then normal wait time for prize Glocks.

I've already put a 10-8 rear sight on it and a Dawson tritium front - hope to try it out on Friday.

Initial thoughts:

I keep thinking of lopping off the right side slide release lever. :cool:
The trigger feels an awful lot like a stock Gen4 trigger with a Gen3 trigger bar swap
I like the magwell
Digging the lack of finger grooves



I waited less than 2 years so that officially makes me an early adopter :cool:

[JBP55]

Well, the fine folks in Smyrna shipped my first Gen5 pistol to me - a Glock 17. (Made in Austria) I won this one at a GSSF match (I think it was Reno) ~ 5 months seems to be then normal wait time for prize Glocks.

I've already put a 10-8 rear sight on it and a Dawson tritium front - hope to try it out on Friday.

Initial thoughts:

I keep thinking of lopping off the right side slide release lever. :cool:
The trigger feels an awful lot like a stock Gen4 trigger with a Gen3 trigger bar swap
I like the magwell
Digging the lack of finger grooves



I waited less than 2 years so that officially makes me an early adopter :cool:


All of the Gen 5 Glocks I own have a much better trigger than the one you described.

[Greg]

All of the Gen 5 Glocks I own have a much better trigger than the one you described.

Have you tried a Gen4 with a Gen3 trigger bar swapped into it?

I've dry fired the Gen5 less than 50 times so maybe it'll change with use (very likely). I'm quite used to "the wall" and it is less pronounced on this Gen5.

[JBP55]

Have you tried a Gen4 with a Gen3 trigger bar swapped into it?

I've dry fired the Gen5 less than 50 times so maybe it'll change with use (very likely). I'm quite used to "the wall" and it is less pronounced on this Gen5.

I have done many dozens of Glock trigger jobs and a Gen 3 trigger bar in a Gen 4 Glock is not even close to what I prefer.
I detail strip my pistols, clean, polish and change parts as needed before firing. Due to age and disabilities I prefer a lighter trigger pull on my Range Only Glocks.

[tcphoto]

This arrived yesterday and I cannot wait to christen it at the range. It’s my first Glock and was motivated after my stepbrother showed me his G19 Gen4.37803

[Duelist]

G19x:

I bought this last week b/c it was a lightly used example for $100 less than what the store was selling a new one for, so nearly $200 under MSRP, I graduate this week for the second time from a Master’s program, and I’d been telling myself for a year that I couldn’t have one “because I’m still in school” but that I could have one for graduation. A week early is close enough, right?

Grip messing around stuff: ended up putting the large beavertail on it for now. Beretta 92a1 with G10 Stoner CNC full checkered grips gives me easy 360 contact. Most other things don’t. I end up with gaps one handed, especially on the sides, so I decided to try to make the Glock grip as big as possible.

120 rounds - NATO ball, Barnaul, S&B
What a nice, easy gun to shoot! Accurate, completely reliable for the limited shooting I did today. It even lit off 6 Barnaul light strikes the Beretta wouldn’t fire last time out.

First, I did a big happy stupid mag dump at 5 yards. One big ragged hole in the middle of the target (a few outside the ragged hole). I almost never do that, because what drill is that? Grip and trigger stamina, probably. But I had a good time doing it once. 20 rounds in the gun is cool.

Really, a nice gun. Just need a SCD and maybe a better comp-type holster, and I’ll use it this summer for whatever matches I do. Won’t probably seduce me away from my Beretta infatuation, but is much more congruent with my EDCs which are baby Glocks - 26 and 42.

[Greg]

I've barely shot mine - maybe 60 rounds.

We had so much @#+*ing snow this year I developed tennis elbow from shoveling (My snowblower doesn't fit everywhere)

It's getting better but I can't clamp my support hand down and use an isosceles stance. Might have to try a Weaver stance and the old push/pull.

[BangBang]

Really happy with my Gen 5 G17. Compared to my other non Gen 5 Glocks, I really like it. I installed a Apex trigger/connector and Ameriglo Agent sights and am perfectly happy with it. Shoots really good. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190510/d7022f7f74e1ed5cc4367c0c800120d4.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190510/3e7f2a3b66bd924c91913d9b7aedc514.jpg

[tcphoto]

I made it out to the range and shot my G17 Gen5 MOS. It's my first Glock and I found out quickly that I shot it a little low and left. After making a few adjustments in grip and stance I was able to place shots better. I don't intend to mount a sight but it's nice to have the option later.

[BangBang]

I made it out to the range and shot my G17 Gen5 MOS. It's my first Glock and I found out quickly that I shot it a little low and left. After making a few adjustments in grip and stance I was able to place shots better. I don't intend to mount a sight but it's nice to have the option later.

Mine shot low as well, until I replaced the sights. After some research about the factory sights and I don’t remember the exact details I read that a lot of the Gen 5 shot low with the rear being 6.1???? Mine was that. If the MOS option was available when I got mine no doubt I would have went that route.

[tcphoto]

Yes, I was motivated by the AmeriGlo sights, the lack of cutout and less than 100 rounds through it for $500. I'll shoot it again with my neighbor, a retired State Trooper and see what he thinks. I'm new to firearms so each time out is a learning experience.

[JBP55]

Mine shot low as well, until I replaced the sights. After some research about the factory sights and I don’t remember the exact details I read that a lot of the Gen 5 shot low with the rear being 6.1???? Mine was that. If the MOS option was available when I got mine no doubt I would have went that route.

Correct.

[Guinnessman]

Sorry if this was answered earlier in the thread.

Is there any reason to pay the extra money for Gen 5 Mags over the Gen 4? $5 a mag is a lot when buying in bulk.;)

This is going to be for a Glock 45. Thanks!

[Clobbersaurus]

Sorry if this was answered earlier in the thread.

Is there any reason to pay the extra money for Gen 5 Mags over the Gen 4? $5 a mag is a lot when buying in bulk.;)

This is going to be for a Glock 45. Thanks!

I find Gen 5 mags much harder to seat on a closed slide when full. I much prefer older Gen mags. Gen 5 baseplates are nice though.

[L-2]

Sorry if this was answered earlier in the thread.

Is there any reason to pay the extra money for Gen 5 Mags over the Gen 4? $5 a mag is a lot when buying in bulk.;)

This is going to be for a Glock 45. Thanks!

My opinion is "no", the Gen5 mags are not worth $5 more.
Prudent shopping is always advised.
Gunmagwarehouse https://gunmagwarehouse.com/brands/glock currently has the Gen5 mags the same price as the older versions at $24.99, which may be beaten at the right time and place, depending on sales, shipping, availability, of course.

I found the Gen5 floorplate to be of minimal use should I need to strip out a mag; I found the orange-colored follower to be of no use as the follower soon gets dirty and dark, plus my mags are always loaded anyway, which covers up the follower.

[Guinnessman]

Thank you for the replies!

FYI I just found Gen 5 Mags at GT Distributors for $21.99 and in stock. Brownells has the same price on Gen 4 Mags, but they are back ordered.

My goal is to stock up in 2019 since it’s not an election year.

[Crow Hunter]

Does anyone know if the breech face ejection aid notch is present (or will be in the future) on the non-MOS models?

I have seen a couple of MOS G19s that have the notch but I haven't seen a "standard" version that does.

[JTQ]

Does anyone know if the breech face ejection aid notch is present (or will be in the future) on the non-MOS models?
If they've found it aids ejection, I wonder if it would appear on other generations still in production such as the Gen 3 and Gen 4 guns?

[fwrun]

The only “standard” version I’ve seen with the notch is the G45

[ralph]

Excellent news.

I've been wanting to buy another Gen5 G19. But after shooting my G45, I am holding off until I can get a Gen5 G19 without the frame cutout, as well as the grove cutout in the slide that the G45 has, that aids in ejection of the cases.

Without going though all 270 + pages of this thread, could someone explain the groove cutout in the slide, thar Beat Trash was talking about in the quote, or better yet show pics? I haven't been following this thread very much, so, I'm a bit behind the curve..I've got a new Gen5, G19 that has probably less than 500rnds on it, I've had for about a year, now. Was thinking about taking it for a spin, and see how she does..

[RJ]

Without going though all 270 + pages of this thread, could someone explain the groove cutout in the slide, thar Beat Trash was talking about in the quote, or better yet show pics? I haven't been following this thread very much, so, I'm a bit behind the curve..I've got a new Gen5, G19 that has probably less than 500rnds on it, I've had for about a year, now. Was thinking about taking it for a spin, and see how she does..

Try this link, it should go to post 2482, dated 10/29/18, which has a picture of the new breech cut:

https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?27410-*THE*-Gen-5-Glock-thread-First-Impressions-Reviews-and-Thoughts&p=805188&viewfull=1#post805188

[ralph]

Try this link, it should go to post 2482, dated 10/29/18, which has a picture of the new breech cut:

https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?27410-*THE*-Gen-5-Glock-thread-First-Impressions-Reviews-and-Thoughts&p=805188&viewfull=1#post805188


Thank you!! It appears that mine is probably an earlier gen 5, as it does not have this feature..

[RJ]

Thank you!! It appears that mine is probably an earlier gen 5, as it does not have this feature..

Mine too.

FWIW my early mismatch nose G19.5 is over 4K rounds, still shoots great. I finally put ten in the black over about 45 seconds at 10 yards last week. Not a huge deal for most here but for me it was a signal accomplishment.

I don’t recall a malfunction. She ain’t pretty but I bet my life on my Glock.

[JBP55]

Thank you!! It appears that mine is probably an earlier gen 5, as it does not have this feature..

The oldest Glock I have with this feature is a BHNK. None of my Glocks starting with BG or earlier had the new breech cut.

[ralph]

The oldest Glock I have with this feature is a BHNK. None of my Glocks starting with BG or earlier had the new breech cut.

Ok, the serial number on mine starts with BG..

[Trukinjp13]

Sorry for asking something that has been discussed. I just can not find it. What is a RELIABLE way to drop the trigger pull weight. I thought I had read changing striker spring and something else? Mine is a early gen 5 and the trigger is not great. The 19x I owned had a superb trigger and the newer g17 also had a better trigger.

I do not really want to change shoes and stuff. But would like to clean the trigger up a wee bit and shave weight if possible. Please do not say shoot it. It has plenty of rounds through it. It has not gotten worse. It just was never great from the start.


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[EJO]

Sorry for asking something that has been discussed. I just can not find it. What is a RELIABLE way to drop the trigger pull weight. I thought I had read changing striker spring and something else? Mine is a early gen 5 and the trigger is not great. The 19x I owned had a superb trigger and the newer g17 also had a better trigger.

I do not really want to change shoes and stuff. But would like to clean the trigger up a wee bit and shave weight if possible. Please do not say shoot it. It has plenty of rounds through it. It has not gotten worse. It just was never great from the start.


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My department only allows factory components so for me that means a factory minus connector. I don’t have the option to change out springs but I’ve been very happy with the minus connector from Glock. Might give it a try.

[L-2]

For Post#2744, each part which moves during a Glock trigger pull may need to be scrutinized. Anything could be causing a different/bad/rough trigger-pull compared to another Glock which feels better.

Some parts to examine:
-trigger w/trigger bar
-trigger mechanism housing
-connector
-firing pin safety
-firing pin
-channel liner
-firing pin spring cups
-firing pin spring

Lubrication between the trigger bar and connector seems to be left out of many Youtube videos I've seen. Accordingly, ensure that interface is lubed.

The two which I've initially missed over the years is the trigger mechanism housing and firing pin spring cups.

[BigT]

Sorry for asking something that has been discussed. I just can not find it. What is a RELIABLE way to drop the trigger pull weight. I thought I had read changing striker spring and something else? Mine is a early gen 5 and the trigger is not great. The 19x I owned had a superb trigger and the newer g17 also had a better trigger.

I do not really want to change shoes and stuff. But would like to clean the trigger up a wee bit and shave weight if possible. Please do not say shoot it. It has plenty of rounds through it. It has not gotten worse. It just was never great from the start.


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Mine all have at least a factory minus connector and a 5lb striker spring. Competition only guns get more but I'm happy with that set up in a carry gun. Its proven reliable in tens of thousands of rounds in multiple pistols. Mostly rounds with S&B or Fiochi primers. So I'm confident it will set off anything I would choose to carry.

[ST911]

Sorry for asking something that has been discussed. I just can not find it. What is a RELIABLE way to drop the trigger pull weight. I thought I had read changing striker spring and something else? Mine is a early gen 5 and the trigger is not great. The 19x I owned had a superb trigger and the newer g17 also had a better trigger. I do not really want to change shoes and stuff. But would like to clean the trigger up a wee bit and shave weight if possible. Please do not say shoot it. It has plenty of rounds through it. It has not gotten worse. It just was never great from the start. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

If reliability matters, stick with OEM components.
Option: a set of 19X or M internals.
Option: order a quantity of OEM fire-control related parts and swap each until you find the best combination.

[Trukinjp13]

Mine all have at least a factory minus connector and a 5lb striker spring. Competition only guns get more but I'm happy with that set up in a carry gun. Its proven reliable in tens of thousands of rounds in multiple pistols. Mostly rounds with S&B or Fiochi primers. So I'm confident it will set off anything I would choose to carry.

Thank you, I believe this is what I had read before.


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[TCB]

On the recommendation of a buddy who has been competing with Glocks for many years he suggested to leave the gun stock except for the plunger and striker springs (replaced with TTI). I lightly Flitz polished the factory parts that interface and put the springs in, the results were very good.

[Trukinjp13]

Ordered factory Glock minus connector and a 5lb striker spring. Also ordered a factory extended mag release. I am done with the Vickers mag release, it sucks as far as I am concerned.

Thanks for the suggestions.


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[Bere09]

I have 1 Gen 5 34 and 1 Gen 5 17 that had horrible triggers. I have 3 Gen 5 34s and 3 Gen 5 17s in total, so I was able to swap parts back and forth to isolate the issue. The two Gen 5 Glocks with horrible triggers had frames so tight where the connector housing sat that the end of the trigger bar would rub against the frame where it interacted with the connector. I used some sandpaper to take away some material/smooth out the frame in that spot and it did the trick. I'll take some pictures tomorrow to explain what I'm talking about.

[Leroy]

I am preferential to a stock Gen 3 trigger. To make my Gen 5 feel like a Gen 3 I left the dot connector in, installed Wolff reduced FPBS and 5# striker spring. No issues with light primer strikes and reduced take up travel weight. Trigger still breaks around 5+ pounds I think.

[JBP55]

Ordered factory Glock minus connector and a 5lb striker spring. Also ordered a factory extended mag release. I am done with the Vickers mag release, it sucks as far as I am concerned.

Thanks for the suggestions.


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Polish all trigger components as well.

[Bere09]

I have a quick video that I'm working on uploading now.

[HeavyDuty]

I have a quick video that I'm working on uploading now.

Any luck? I’m interested in seeing what you came up with.

[Bere09]

Still Trying

[Bere09]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6zgirtG4JI

[vcdgrips]

Late to the party re the trigger- OEM is the way to go. 5.5 lbs TRS with a OEM "minus" connector. Dry fire and live fire. Some "sets" feel better than others. I heard a rumor that Team Glock would mix and match components until they had GTG extra sets, the would bag those sets together and swap them out wholesale as needed. FWIW.


Re the mag release: I have had excellent results with reducing, texturing and contouring a factory extended release.

[Bere09]

Late to the party re the trigger- OEM is the way to go. 5.5 lbs TRS with a OEM "minus" connector. Dry fire and live fire. Some "sets" feel better than others. I heard a rumor that Team Glock would mix and match components until they had GTG extra sets, the would bag those sets together and swap them out wholesale as needed. FWIW.


Re the mag release: I have had excellent results with reducing, texturing and contouring a factory extended release.

Vogel has mentioned before that he does this as well. Mix and match triggers and housings with different connectors until he gets the feel he likes.

[modrecoil]

I don't know if others are seeing this but the slide finish on my G34.5 is wearing much faster than older generation Glocks I own. Wish I could say it's because of all the holster work I've done, but I've done 5X more work with my Gen4 G19 with a fraction of the finish wear. Same brand of Kydex holster

[HeavyDuty]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6zgirtG4JI

Great info - thank you for posting this! Lol at the talking while holding the flashlight in your mouth.

[TCinVA]

I don't know if others are seeing this but the slide finish on my G34.5 is wearing much faster than older generation Glocks I own. Wish I could say it's because of all the holster work I've done, but I've done 5X more work with my Gen4 G19 with a fraction of the finish wear. Same brand of Kydex holster

I bought my 17 MOS back in February and I've already got a couple of spots where I'm down to silver. I don't think it is going to be a problem in the long term, but it's definitely interesting.

[Bere09]

Great info - thank you for posting this! Lol at the talking while holding the flashlight in your mouth.

Only the highest production values!

[L-2]

Regarding Posts 2761 & 2763, I suspect there are a couple of things which come to mind.
-Glock has probably changed slide finishes/treatments a few times over the years;
-any individual Glock's slide finish may vary vs. another example.

I've got a G34Gen4 from 2016 and its slide's finish was wearing-off as the others were describing, with abrasions and down-to-silver in spots from holster wear.

I actually thought a, then-new, Blade-Tech holster was causing the problem as I'd never seen or heard of wear like this previously (sorry Blade-Tech for suspecting your holster 3 years ago, but then again, you never responded anyway).

I don't have this specific Glock with me at the moment (it's 300 miles away in a different state) or I'd post a photo.

[EVP]

I don't know if others are seeing this but the slide finish on my G34.5 is wearing much faster than older generation Glocks I own. Wish I could say it's because of all the holster work I've done, but I've done 5X more work with my Gen4 G19 with a fraction of the finish wear. Same brand of Kydex holster


I honestly feel the opposite.

I think my gen 4 wore a lot faster then my gen 5. I think the gen 5 finish is a step up from the gen 4s.

[BWT]

I honestly feel the opposite.

I think my gen 4 wore a lot faster then my gen 5. I think the gen 5 finish is a step up from the gen 4s.

Sample of one - my Glock 19 Gen 4 had chipped off finish (ETA: when NIB).

My Gen 4 Glock 17 was the slick one and worked great.

I prefer the Gen 5’s in every way.

[modrecoil]

I bought my 17 MOS back in February and I've already got a couple of spots where I'm down to silver. I don't think it is going to be a problem in the long term, but it's definitely interesting.

Yeah, it's odd. Here's a photo. The G19.4 on the right has seen at least 15K rounds, multiple courses, and lots of holster work. Finish is in great shape. The G17.2 in the middle was bought used and endured considerable abuse. The G34.5 on the left was bought in April and has seen no more than 3K rounds and a couple of hundred presentations, at most. I know slide length and cant variances will cause wear in different spots but it seems excessive.
39560

[VT1032]

Wow, that's crazy... I've had the exact opposite experience. I found the chalky gen 4 finish to scratch or rub off really easily, while the finish on my gen 5s has been bombproof. What holster have you been using that in? Has the g19 been used in the same holster?

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[modrecoil]

Wow, that's crazy... I've had the exact opposite experience. I found the chalky gen 4 finish to scratch or rub off really easily, while the finish on my gen 5s has been bombproof. What holster have you been using that in? Has the g19 been used in the same holster?

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[Trukinjp13]

Installed the Wolff 5# striker spring and Glock minus connector. Trigger is lighter and the break feels crisper. Cleaned and greased trigger bar. Very happy to do the install.

Also installed extended factory Glock magazine. Works better than tango down for me.


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[fwrun]

Crisp break.

Minus connector.

:confused: something doesn’t seem right, unless a crisp break means “rolling”

[Trukinjp13]

Crisp break.

Minus connector.

:confused: something doesn’t seem right, unless a crisp break means “rolling”

Hence, I said crisper. As in compared to my stock trigger. The trigger has a less staged feel to the break. My trigger was one of the worst gen 5 guns I have had and shot of friends. My gun is also a older one. I am excited now.


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[Casual Friday]

I'm a fan of the changes they made for the gen 5s. I went with a pair of G17s, one for carry, one for shooting, dryfire, competition. I have big chungus hands, I wear 2XL gloves, so the 19 size guns have always been borderline too short for my liking. The front scallop cutout thingamabob on the gen 5 G19 aggravated the shit out of me, so going with the G17 was an easy choice for me. It's there, but doesn't bother me like the 19 did.

While I'm far from a trigger diva, I find the gen 5 trigger to be night and day better than previous generations, at least for me.

I loved my gen 2 Glocks back in the day, 3's and 4's I was meh over because of the finger grooves, see reference to big chungus hands above, so the deletion of the finger grooves was a welcome change for me.

The flared magwell is also a nice addition, it seems to make a difference to me, how much I'm not sure but I like it, it feels less like a square peg in a round hole.

I find the grip texture to be juuuuust right. Aggressive enough to where I don't feel like I need to stipple or add skateboard tape to a few areas, but not so aggressive that it is irritating to carry.

Last but not least. The "marksman" barrel. I know it's not a direct comparison, but compared to a gen 4 G19, beyond 15 yards and definitely at 25, I'm more accurate with the gen 5 G17. Is it the 1/2" of sight radius, the smoother trigger, the barrel improvements, or a combination of all three? I'd say probably the latter, but I can definitely see an improvement.

Only thing I need to do is send Tom_Jones some money for a couple Gadgets.

[Mjolnir]

Yeah, it's odd. Here's a photo. The G19.4 on the right has seen at least 15K rounds, multiple courses, and lots of holster work. Finish is in great shape. The G17.2 in the middle was bought used and endured considerable abuse. The G34.5 on the left was bought in April and has seen no more than 3K rounds and a couple of hundred presentations, at most. I know slide length and cant variances will cause wear in different spots but it seems excessive.
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You know why you’re having this issue???

See that grip tape on the left side of that Model 34?

As the sand loosens where do you think it falls or deposits?

Look inside your kydex holster.

You’re sanding down to the metal.


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[modrecoil]

You know why you’re having this issue???

See that grip tape on the left side of that Model 34?

As the sand loosens where do you think it falls or deposits?

Look inside your kydex holster.

You’re sanding down to the metal.


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Thanks for the suggestion. I considered that possibility, but that's not it. Holster is clean. I've used skate tape for years. Same tape and holster with my Sig X-Five and Steyr L9 before it. Same with the CZ that came before that.

[Mjolnir]

Thanks for the suggestion. I considered that possibility, but that's not it. Holster is clean. I've used skate tape for years. Same tape and holster with my Sig X-Five and Steyr L9 before it. Same with the CZ that came before that.

I’ve scratched a few like yours on one side like yours. Some got eaten up others did not. They were HK pistols.

Refinished, and grip tape removed, new holsters where necessary and the issue never arose again.

Be careful.


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[Greg Bell]

I picked up my second one to give it another try. My first one, an early model, had the trigger turn to crap around 1500-2k rounds. I picked up a 19 mos this time. 800 rounds of various ammo, mostly TULA steel (but also IMI, HST and Hydra Shocks). I put one of the crimson trace units on it and zeroed it with 147 HST. Everything seems to be running good so far with no mf.

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[JHC]

Yeah, it's odd. Here's a photo. The G19.4 on the right has seen at least 15K rounds, multiple courses, and lots of holster work. Finish is in great shape. The G17.2 in the middle was bought used and endured considerable abuse. The G34.5 on the left was bought in April and has seen no more than 3K rounds and a couple of hundred presentations, at most. I know slide length and cant variances will cause wear in different spots but it seems excessive.
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G34 with flames! Pretty neat IMO.

[fpnunes]

I picked up my second one to give it another try. My first one, an early model, had the trigger turn to crap around 1500-2k rounds. I picked up a 19 mos this time. 800 rounds of various ammo, mostly TULA steel (but also IMI, HST and Hydra Shocks). I put one of the crimson trace units on it and zeroed it with 147 HST. Everything seems to be running good so far with no mf.

I saw that thread over at M4C, Greg and almost ditched my G19.5 because of it. I've since picked up a 19.5 MOS and a 17.5 MOS. Both have been great guns with no discernible wear in the trigger components and much nicer trigger pulls than my older gen 4s. I bought them because everyone should own a G19 (and a G17 for a range toy ;))

[Greg Bell]

I am the same way. I try to keep one of each type of gun in my stable. My favorite is my Beretta followed closely by my 1911. But I do like to keep competent with all the regular gun systems.

Hopefully they have the trigger nonsense sorted out. If not, I guess I will buy an apex at some point.

[Trukinjp13]

Ran three boxes of ammo through it to test new trigger setup. 2 separate 115grn ball and 1 147grn American eagle. Also ran 50 more round of 147 hst my carry ammo. The trigger is very much improved from two simple parts. Wolff 5# striker spring and Glock minus connector. Still running stock trigger bar.

Glock factory extended mag release is working quite well over the tango down. Magpul 15 rnd mags are hit and miss on dropping free. Only use them for range use anyways. Interesting thing happened in a string of fire. The tangodown grip plug/tool dropped out of the gun. I was about halfway through the mag and noticed something fall. I pressed on and found out after. So now I have had failures with tangodown +2 for my g43. This plug falling out of the g19 and the tango down mag release being subpar. Not very impressed with tango down plastic Glock parts.

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[Guinnessman]

After several range rentals, followed by some coon fingering at the dealer, I finally broke down and bought a Glock 45. I have only put 100 rounds thru the gun, on a range where I could not draw. Here are my initial thoughts:

This gun has the best OEM Glock trigger I have tried. It’s smooth with a nice roll, without the hard Glock wall of the past.

The medium beaver tail grip combined with no finger grooves fits my hand well. This gun tracks very well in my hands. Too early for a good comparison to the competition, but my early impressions are very favorable. I like the grip texture.

It’s a nice soft shooter and very accurate. I am anxious to get this to a “Real” range so I can draw and use my damn timer.:p

[wvincent]

After several range rentals, followed by some coon fingering at the dealer, I finally broke down and bought a Glock 45. I have only put 100 rounds thru the gun, on a range where I could not draw. Here are my initial thoughts:

This gun has the best OEM Glock trigger I have tried. It’s smooth with a nice roll, without the hard Glock wall of the past.

The medium beaver tail grip combined with no finger grooves fits my hand well. This gun tracks very well in my hands. Too early for a good comparison to the competition, but my early impressions are very favorable. I like the grip texture.

It’s a nice soft shooter and very accurate. I am anxious to get this to a “Real” range so I can draw and use my damn timer.:p

I'm just shy of 2000 rds, only hiccup was I had 1 mag "stick". I was down loading HST's to switch to range ammo, and the follower stuck after 1 round coming out. Sharp rap on the baseplate, and all was well. Ran that magazine all afternoon, no repeats.
It does have a great trigger. Just pull, no staging and it is so revolver like. Except for adding a SCD, I've been running it box stock.
Amazingly, it is fairly easy to AIWB.
Hey JHC, are you still still using your G45 for edc? How is it working out for you.

[JHC]

I'm just shy of 2000 rds, only hiccup was I had 1 mag "stick". I was down loading HST's to switch to range ammo, and the follower stuck after 1 round coming out. Sharp rap on the baseplate, and all was well. Ran that magazine all afternoon, no repeats.
It does have a great trigger. Just pull, no staging and it is so revolver like. Except for adding a SCD, I've been running it box stock.
Amazingly, it is fairly easy to AIWB.
Hey JHC, are you still still using your G45 for edc? How is it working out for you.


Its as great as ever but it is spending a lot of time locked up. Not seeing much use for some months as I've been immersed into shooting my 9mm Operator (Lipsey's gun tuned by Dave Sams and now this CQB Elite - OMG!) The G48/43X are the Glocks I've shot most consistently for some months just to say current on them since I'm mostly carrying the 43X.


The G45 didn't fail in any manner. I just swooned for the slim 43X. The 45 is my favorite standard frame gun. Two weeks ago I took it along just because I hadn't for so long and I was so into the CQB that I only fired about 10 rounds through the G45. Yet three of those were the one run of F2S @ 7 yards that ripped off in 1.77 clean. I was like damn that's a nice pistol.

But these 1911s . . . last 3 rounds of .45 last Sunday from 40 yards. I can't leave them alone.

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And this is just my hare-brained theory but as I shoot 1911 a lot, I don't sense as large a transition to shoot the "slimline" 43X/48 as I do the standard Glocks.

[wvincent]

JHC, cool! Sounds like someone has the fever, the 1911 fever.

[JHC]

JHC, cool! Sounds like someone has the fever, the 1911 fever.

I caught it in '81, it went into remission somewhere in the mid '90s and now a more virulent "high end" strain has caught me up.

#Godsgun (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=Godsgun)

[wvincent]

I caught it in '81, it went into remission somewhere in the mid '90s and now a more virulent "high end" strain has caught me up.

#Godsgun (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=Godsgun)

40 yds? Damn, that is awesome, however I suspect the "trigger actuator" is dialed in pretty tight.
The problem with the "high end" strain is sometime's the "treatment" can be fairly costly, including trips to the Wilson Combat "clinic".

[Thy.Will.Be.Done]

Yeah, it's odd. Here's a photo. The G19.4 on the right has seen at least 15K rounds, multiple courses, and lots of holster work. Finish is in great shape. The G17.2 in the middle was bought used and endured considerable abuse. The G34.5 on the left was bought in April and has seen no more than 3K rounds and a couple of hundred presentations, at most. I know slide length and cant variances will cause wear in different spots but it seems excessive.
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I think there's a possible explanation here with simple physics. Longer slide length (leverage advantage) along with smaller contact area (hard corner vs rounded on G17/G19) equal high force applied to the contact area. Mix in some random grit that may have found it's way into the holster and I can see why it may do that, hard to say without looking in person though. I would contact Glock personally, see what they have to say.

[mrozowjj]

I was debating starting a new thread but I was wondering what kind of accuracy everyone was having from their Gen 5 guns?

I bought a G45 recently MOS model I intended to use in USPSA but I couldn't get a zero on the dot. I thought maybe the dot was busted so I pulled it off but I was still getting like 8" at 25 yards. That seems like a problem to me but I'm not sure if that's just standard. I remember my Gen 4 Glock 17 doing better than that but I sold that one years ago so I don't know for sure.

I'm going to take my Gen 5 19 out this weekend but I'm hoping someone else can weigh in on it.

And before everyone blames me I was getting 3" @ 25 out of my CZ Shadow 2 with the same ammo. I know I can't compare the Shadow 2 to a Glock as far as accuracy but I'm saying that because it makes me relatively certain it's not me.

[JodyH]

I was debating starting a new thread but I was wondering what kind of accuracy everyone was having from their Gen 5 guns?

I bought a G45 recently MOS model I intended to use in USPSA but I couldn't get a zero on the dot. I thought maybe the dot was busted so I pulled it off but I was still getting like 8" at 25 yards. That seems like a problem to me but I'm not sure if that's just standard. I remember my Gen 4 Glock 17 doing better than that but I sold that one years ago so I don't know for sure.

I'm going to take my Gen 5 19 out this weekend but I'm hoping someone else can weigh in on it.

And before everyone blames me I was getting 3" @ 25 out of my CZ Shadow 2 with the same ammo. I know I can't compare the Shadow 2 to a Glock as far as accuracy but I'm saying that because it makes me relatively certain it's not me.

I'm right at 80-85% hits on a 8" plate at 50Y with all my Gen5's (19, 19X, 19X, 45, all currently fitted with iron sights) at around a 1 shot per second pace. (I despise punching paper for accuracy).
I'm rarely surprised by a miss, when I miss I know it the instant the gun fires and know where the bullet is going.
When I have my SRO on the 19X i'm 95-100% and again any misses are "called" and are shooter error.
2"-3" @ 25Y slow fire would not be an unrealistic expectation.

[mrozowjj]

I'm right at 80-85% hits on a 8" plate at 50Y with all my Gen5's (19, 19X, 19X, 45, all currently fitted with iron sights) at around a 1 shot per second pace. (I despise punching paper for accuracy).
I'm rarely surprised by a miss, when I miss I know it the instant the gun fires and know where the bullet is going.
When I have my SRO on the 19X i'm 95-100% and again any misses are "called" and are shooter error.
2"-3" @ 25Y slow fire would not be an unrealistic expectation.

That's kind of what I was expecting.

[JodyH]

That's kind of what I was expecting.
Check for uneven wear marks on the locking block and barrel locking lug.
I'd also look over the barrel crown for a ding.

[Xhado]

I was debating starting a new thread but I was wondering what kind of accuracy everyone was having from their Gen 5 guns?


With a G19.5 MOS I've shot a 100/8X B8 @25.

Normally its a 96-98

[BigT]

I was debating starting a new thread but I was wondering what kind of accuracy everyone was having from their Gen 5 guns?

I bought a G45 recently MOS model I intended to use in USPSA but I couldn't get a zero on the dot. I thought maybe the dot was busted so I pulled it off but I was still getting like 8" at 25 yards. That seems like a problem to me but I'm not sure if that's just standard. I remember my Gen 4 Glock 17 doing better than that but I sold that one years ago so I don't know for sure.

I'm going to take my Gen 5 19 out this weekend but I'm hoping someone else can weigh in on it.

And before everyone blames me I was getting 3" @ 25 out of my CZ Shadow 2 with the same ammo. I know I can't compare the Shadow 2 to a Glock as far as accuracy but I'm saying that because it makes me relatively certain it's not me.


2" at 25 yards with a couple Gen5's with the right ammo.

[mrozowjj]

2" at 25 yards with a couple Gen5's with the right ammo.

What kind of ammo are you using for that?

[EJO]

Glock 45 MOS using the irons. Ten rounds at 25 yards. I was shooting 115 grain blazer aluminum or winchester white box, I don’t recall which. For sure Glock’s are more accurate than I am.

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[HCM]

I was debating starting a new thread but I was wondering what kind of accuracy everyone was having from their Gen 5 guns?

I bought a G45 recently MOS model I intended to use in USPSA but I couldn't get a zero on the dot. I thought maybe the dot was busted so I pulled it off but I was still getting like 8" at 25 yards. That seems like a problem to me but I'm not sure if that's just standard. I remember my Gen 4 Glock 17 doing better than that but I sold that one years ago so I don't know for sure.

I'm going to take my Gen 5 19 out this weekend but I'm hoping someone else can weigh in on it.

And before everyone blames me I was getting 3" @ 25 out of my CZ Shadow 2 with the same ammo. I know I can't compare the Shadow 2 to a Glock as far as accuracy but I'm saying that because it makes me relatively certain it's not me.

The Gen 5 guns have normally been exceptionally accurate, 2-3” guns at 25 yards with good ammo. I have shot 100-4x with a Gen 5gun and RMR.

Need to eliminate variables-

What ammo are you using ? Start by trying quality factory ammo.

If you are getting the same results with HST, gold dot, AE, Lawman etc then have a second know skilled shooter shoot the gun.

If they get the same results something is wrong with the gun, just call Glock and send it back.

[BigT]

What kind of ammo are you using for that?
I do about 95% of my shooting with reloads.

[TC215]

https://i.imgur.com/PNb92WM.jpg

Can’t tell if the cut-out is gone or not.

[Gater]

https://i.imgur.com/PNb92WM.jpg

Can’t tell if the cut-out is gone or not.

Hoping for that breech face cut...

[Gater]

No cut out. Credit entirely due to guy on another site who mentioned the 360 viewer on Glock's site. Fingers crossed on the breech face cut...






ETA link: https://us.glock.com/en/pistols/g19-gen5-fs-us

[steve]

Great news on the 19 Gen5 with no cut out. I traded my 19 Gen5 because of the cut out and look forward to the new one.

[Wake27]

No cut out. Credit entirely due to guy on another site who mentioned the 360 viewer on Glock's site. Fingers crossed on the breech face cut...






ETA link: https://us.glock.com/en/pistols/g19-gen5-fs-us

Finally. I would’ve prioritized a new 19 over the 45 if this had been available last week. Not that they care since they got my money anyways.

ETA - between the new coating and the ATEi serrations on my EDC, my hand slipped like crazy while front running the G45 so I looked like a chump in the store.

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[TC215]

No cut out. Credit entirely due to guy on another site who mentioned the 360 viewer on Glock's site. Fingers crossed on the breech face cut...






ETA link: https://us.glock.com/en/pistols/g19-gen5-fs-us

Unless I’m missing something on their website, looks like the new models with FCS will be replacing the standard Gen5 models.

[WobblyPossum]

Unless I’m missing something on their website, looks like the new models with FCS will be replacing the standard Gen5 models.

That’s what it looks like to me as well. I approve of the FCS becoming standard but I’m sad to see the frame cutout go.

[Up1911Fan]

That’s what it looks like to me as well. I approve of the FCS becoming standard but I’m sad to see the frame cutout go.

Hell of a lot easier to add the frame cutout than FCS.

[RONK]

Does anyone have any part numbers for the new configurations yet?Thanks.