Ruger LCR?

[Duelist]

Unfortunately no. If I remember I will bring it, some .38 and .357 ammo and borrow the range rental. I am sort of terrified of the .357 since it is pretty stout out of the SP101 and I am done after ten or so rounds.

If I make ever up your way, I'll bring my 28-2. You'll not be scared of .357 after that.

[LockedBreech]

Enel,

After my parents and brother owning a brace of LCRs for close to 10 years now and me borrowing them frequently, I have been firmly convinced of their excellence and toughness. Even after owning a no-lock 642 for a few years I still preferred the LCR. But even in ten years we never stressed them fractionally as hard as you did. Thank you for the always-invaluable data point that is a 2K test.

Once I've got my new job secure and relatively stable, I may have to treat myself to one next year: grab a .38+P version, blue Loctite the screws, and enjoy.

[Chuck Haggard]

I keep hearing that the LCRs are so much bigger than the S&Ws.

Not true. Optical illusion...

IMHO it's the grips, given the same or similar grips these guns are very close in size....




340 on top of a .38 LCR;
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both guns;
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LCR is actually slightly thinner in the cylinder;
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[spinmove_]

I keep hearing that the LCRs are so much bigger than the S&Ws.

Not true. Optical illusion...

IMHO it's the grips, given the same or similar grips these guns are very close in size....




340 on top of a .38 LCR;
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both guns;
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LCR is actually slightly thinner in the cylinder;
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How are you liking those Crimson Trace grips? Which would you go with, LCR or 642/442?


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[Chuck Haggard]

I really like the CT grips on my snubs, a lot.

I'm carrying a .38 LCR right now as my BUG, and shopping for the .357 version.

I think either the LCR or the 642 are quality choices.

[LockedBreech]

I really like the CT grips on my snubs, a lot.

I'm carrying a .38 LCR right now as my BUG, and shopping for the .357 version.

I think either the LCR or the 642 are quality choices.

I had the CT grips on both my brother's LCR and my personal LCP.

On the LCP, nightmare, I took them right off, the grip was too small and they took too much real estate.

On the LCR, they helped tremendously, I mean tremendously, with accuracy and speed. Totally agree that the CTs on the LCR are fantastic.

[WheelGunMan]

I have a LCR 357 that I have used as my EDC for the last two years with intermittent stand-ins from my SP101 which it replaced. I chose the LCR in .357 caliber for a number of reasons. First is that I own several other 357's and wanted to standardize. Secondly, I felt the sturdier stainless steel frame would ad durability and longevity to the firearm. And lastly, the additional few ounces gained would help with absorbing some recoil.

I've tried to put 50 rounds per month thru it every month practicing various techniques such as point shooting, one handed and off handed. I'm slowly becoming rather proficient with it and consider training an ongoing regimen.

By personal choice I only shoot .38 Special with it as I find .357 to be a little too dicey for my liking in this light weighted gun. Others mileage may vary. I feel by shooting the lighter load it strengthens my confidence in the guns handling.

I carry either IWB in a Kydex holster or in a Desantis pocket holster. I changed the grip to a Hogue boot grip to ease drawing and to conceal better.

I also own a LCR22WMR and a 3" LCRX22WMR which I shoot extensively. I have added a 9MM to my long list as I'm intrigued by the moon clips and the cheaper ammo.

I truly love the LCR platform and recommend it highly.

[Doc_Glock]

I keep hearing that the LCRs are so much bigger than the S&Ws.

Not true. Optical illusion...

IMHO it's the grips, given the same or similar grips these guns are very close in size....




340 on top of a .38 LCR;
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both guns;
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LCR is actually slightly thinner in the cylinder;
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Thanks for that Chuck.

[Doc_Glock]

I also want to add that going from the LCR to a Glock and vice versa is a cake walk as the grip angle is pretty similar.

[BillSWPA]

I had the CT grips on both my brother's LCR and my personal LCP.

On the LCP, nightmare, I took them right off, the grip was too small and they took too much real estate.

On the LCR, they helped tremendously, I mean tremendously, with accuracy and speed. Totally agree that the CTs on the LCR are fantastic.

Based on my experience with my Kel-Tec P3AT, a magazine extension really helps with the LaserGuard. I agree completely on the lack of grip space, and 1 1/2 fingers on the grip is not enough to keep the gun from sliding. However, with a grip extension, the LaserGuard significantly enhances the accuracy potential of the gun under lighting conditions in which the laser can be seen.

I have tried both +0 and +1 extensions, and ended up using the +0. While I dislike the idea of adding grip length without adding magazine capacity, the +1 extensions increased the amount of rattle of the cartridges in the magazine - npt the best way to be discreet. The +0 extensions also provide a more secure grip due to the short "hook" on the end.

[WheelGunMan]

FWIW I'd like to share a couple of thoughts on ammo out of the short barrel of an LCR.

It seems every article one reads regarding defensive ammunition two things stand out... the need for adequate bullet penetration and expansion to illicit quick damage to vitals to stop the threat. Penetration being the trump card over expansion. I believe FBI protocol is + 12”.

To achieve adequate penetration and expansion it requires a good amount of velocity...and velocity is compounded by barrel length. The LCR falls short on that front with it's 1.875 barrel length.

To increase velocity for short barrels a lot of ammo manufacturers have introduced the +p loads. This ammunition ramps up the velocity but introduces additional recoil to the mix. To counter that they reduced bullet weight and introduced the light bullet., This ammunition ramps up the velocity even more and eases recoil a bit.

To achieve greater expansion they utilize jacketed hollow points (JHP) but the pitfall here is by there very design they have a tendency to clog with denim and other material. They provide minimal or no expansion in their clogged state in many of the gel tests that I have viewed. Some manufacturers have added a plastic tip in the hollow point to eliminate the clogging and aid in expansion. These only work part of the time.

In my never ending quest for a satisfactory ammo for my short barreled guns I ran across one of the technological wonders that ammo manufacturers are introducing. I'm speaking specifically about the ARX (Advanced Rotation eXtreme) brand of ammo. It's a copper/polymer mix non-expanding frangible bullet that is high pressure injection molded. The claim to fame is that it has flutes cut into the bullet utilize the bullets rotation when entering the target (soft tissue) by producing hydraulic cavitation (Venturi effect). This cavitation creates a temporary wound channel on a par with heavier expanding lead bullets. The other notable feature is that rotates 180° during its forward motion to minimize over penetration. Pretty cool stuff! You can see it for yourself on http://mousegunaddict.blogspot.com/p/ammo-tests.html?m=1

It bumps the velocity up on the LCR 38 Special 77 grain to around 1050 FPS and the 9MM 80 grain to around 1350 FPS. The 357 86 grain comes in around 1500 FPS. That's some pretty respectable numbers for such a short barrel. So much so that I've made it my ammunition of choice for my LCR.

[Doc_Glock]

FWIW I'd like to share a couple of thoughts on ammo out of the short barrel of an LCR.

It seems every article one reads regarding defensive ammunition two things stand out... the need for adequate bullet penetration and expansion to illicit quick damage to vitals to stop the threat. Penetration being the trump card over expansion. I believe FBI protocol is + 12”.


Agree. The FBI specifies 12-18"


To achieve adequate penetration and expansion it requires a good amount of velocity...and velocity is compounded by barrel length. The LCR falls short on that front with it's 1.875 barrel length.


This is incorrect a bit, simply because revolver barrel lengths are measured differently from semi auto pistols. The LCR 9mm barrel length is actually comparable to the small single stack 9mm pistols such as the Glock 43 because semi autos include the chamber length and revolvers do not. Most chrono tests I have seen on the LCR 9mm actually show it moving a bullet 50-100 FPS faster than a comparable small 9mm.


To achieve greater expansion they utilize jacketed hollow points (JHP) but the pitfall here is by there very design they have a tendency to clog with denim and other material. They provide minimal or no expansion in their clogged state in many of the gel tests that I have viewed. Some manufacturers have added a plastic tip in the hollow point to eliminate the clogging and aid in expansion. These only work part of the time.

Not true at all.


In my never ending quest for a satisfactory ammo for my short barreled guns I ran across one of the technological wonders that ammo manufacturers are introducing. I'm speaking specifically about the ARX (Advanced Rotation eXtreme) brand of ammo. It's a copper/polymer mix non-expanding frangible bullet that is high pressure injection molded. The claim to fame is that it has flutes cut into the bullet utilize the bullets rotation when entering the target (soft tissue) by producing hydraulic cavitation (Venturi effect). This cavitation creates a temporary wound channel on a par with heavier expanding lead bullets. The other notable feature is that rotates 180° during its forward motion to minimize over penetration. Pretty cool stuff! You can see it for yourself on http://mousegunaddict.blogspot.com/p/ammo-tests.html?m=1

It bumps the velocity up on the LCR 38 Special 77 grain to around 1050 FPS and the 9MM 80 grain to around 1350 FPS. The 357 86 grain comes in around 1500 FPS. That's some pretty respectable numbers for such a short barrel. So much so that I've made it my ammunition of choice for my LCR.

Fast lightweight, frangible ammo is a gimmick, as is the marketing drivel promoted by ARX. I don't think any mainstream thinker in ballistics would recommend it for defensive purposes.

In .38, use wadcutters for minimum recoil and adequate penetration without expansion.

In 9mm, use any of the proven rounds on DocGKR's list. HST, Gold Dot and Ranger T comes to my mind.

[WheelGunMan]

Fast lightweight, frangible ammo is a gimmick, as is the marketing drivel promoted by ARX. I don't think any mainstream thinker in ballistics would recommend it for defensive purposes.

In .38, use wadcutters for minimum recoil and adequate penetration without expansion.

In 9mm, use any of the proven rounds on DocGKR's list. HST, Gold Dot and Ranger T comes to my mind.

I guess that makes me other than a mainstream thinker... whatever that is.

Then tell me why you think it's a gimmick...and as you say marketing drivel.

[mmc45414]

and it brings only 2.2oz extra @ 15.7oz.

Not for pocket carry, but for those that might want a little more control, a little less recoil, a little more velocity and a bit less blast, it might bridge a gap:
https://ruger.com/products/lcrx/specSheets/5431.html

I really like 3" barrels, including my SP-101.

[WheelGunMan]

and it brings only 2.2oz extra @ 15.7oz.

Not for pocket carry, but for those that might want a little more control, a little less recoil, a little more velocity and a bit less blast, it might bridge a gap:
https://ruger.com/products/lcrx/specSheets/5431.html

I really like 3" barrels, including my SP-101.
I have the LCRx 3" in .22 WMR and really enjoy it...holding out for when it comes out in .357.

[mmc45414]

holding out for when it comes out in .357.
Or maybe 9mm...

[BehindBlueI's]

I guess that makes me other than a mainstream thinker... whatever that is.

Then tell me why you think it's a gimmick...and as you say marketing drivel.

Short version? Because it sucks, and I've seen people shot with it. Messy, but shallow, wounds. It doesn't do well at all against bone strikes. How bad? An elementary school age girl's radius forearm bone will stop it dead in it's tracks. It is inferior to a standard wadcutter in every way except marketing. It lacks sufficient penetration, can't get through bone, and is thus very unlikely to get into the vitals for a physiological stop. The notion it somehow uses "cavitation" voodoo that looks neat in a gel block doesn't actually translate into doing the same work in living meat.

Longer version? Go the ammo subforum.

[Doc_Glock]

I guess that makes me other than a mainstream thinker... whatever that is.

Then tell me why you think it's a gimmick...and as you say marketing drivel.

I will walk my statements back a little. I finally got around to reading your link on mouseguns.

“I always start out skeptical when looking at a new bullet design. In my testing, the three calibers of ARX bullets tested have proven to penetrate to the lower end of our 12 to 18 inch expectation without any indication of exceeding the 18 inch penetration maximum. All recovered projectiles were perfectly formed and showed no indications of fracturing after impacting clothing barriers and gel testing media.”

I am glad to see the gel testing. I am also glad the bullets held together. I was under the mistaken impression they were frangible. They are lightweight bullets and do lightweight bullet things such as barely penetrate, but generate low recoil. They don’t expand and I don’t put a lot of faith in the bullet fluting or temporary stretch cavities. Essentially they act like poorly performing FMJs.

I think there are better options.

This wadcutter load has similarly low recoil and penetrates 18”
http://mousegunaddict.blogspot.com/2014/01/federal-gold-medal-match-38-special.html

This article also gives some good choices.

https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?4336-BUG-s-380-ACP-vs-38-Sp

[RJ]

This is related to my LCR .357, but also kinda a general ammo question.

I now work in a cubicle type environment where I can’t carry. So, since I bought the LCR, and it’s so darn convenient to throw into a pocket, I generally both leave the house and come back with it. I just store it in a discreet locked cable-type gun safe in the car during the day when I’m at work.

My question is on my ammo (158 gr Wadcutters) while it is in the car. It gets pretty hot here in FL, even though I have tint and use a sunshade.

Any potential heat-related problems here?

Should I replace the ammo in my LCR periodically while I’m in this mode?

Or is it a non-issue?

I really don’t want to have to pull my gun out if I need it and hear a click vs a bang.

Thanks.



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[BehindBlueI's]

Or is it a non-issue?


Non-issue.

[Stephanie B]

Fast lightweight, frangible ammo is a gimmick, as is the marketing drivel promoted by ARX.

It's just me, but I regard ARX and similar cartridges as being lubricated with snake oil.

I'm not interested in chasing the next great thing. I'll stick with Winchester Ranger 130gr +P in steel-framed snubbies, wadcutters in alloy-framed guns. I see no great need to change.

[mmc45414]

Or is it a non-issue?

Non-issue.
Think about how hot it was in the trailer when it was being shipped and stored.

[WheelGunMan]

It's just me, but I regard ARX and similar cartridges as being lubricated with snake oil.
Maybe that's what gives them their increased velocity! :)

For what it's worth...the frame on the LCR 357 is indeed steel. The grip frame and fire control housing is polymer. But I also carry a snub SP101 and I like it too.

[WheelGunMan]

and it brings only 2.2oz extra @ 15.7oz.

Not for pocket carry, but for those that might want a little more control, a little less recoil, a little more velocity and a bit less blast, it might bridge a gap:
https://ruger.com/products/lcrx/specSheets/5431.html

I really like 3" barrels, including my SP-101.

My LCR 357 weighs in a 17oz which helps some with recoil. I practice with .38 Special 130 grain FMJ..and finish the session with ARX 77 grain. It's like night and day difference on recoil.

I just picked up an LCRx in .22 mag and I can attest to it's accuracy. Great little shooter. I carry with me now when doing chores, mowing and brush hogging.

I'm holding out for Ruger to introduce in the .357...

[Chuck Haggard]

ARX is shitty plastic ball ammo. Hard pass.

If you store the gun in the little lock box under the driver seat then it shouldn't get as hot as it would in direct sunlight, etc.

I've heard of people storing guns and ammo in a small cooler in the trunk, not sure if that helps or not.

I know that Doc has addressed how hot ammo can get before there are issues, but I forget what that temperature is.

[WheelGunMan]

Or maybe 9mm...

Yep...I have a LCR 9MM on my long list.

[WheelGunMan]

ARX is shitty plastic ball ammo. Hard pass.
Ha! Good stuff! Never heard that one before. To each their own.

If you store the gun in the little lock box under the driver seat then it shouldn't get as hot as it would in direct sunlight, etc.

I've heard of people storing guns and ammo in a small cooler in the trunk, not sure if that helps or not.

I know that Doc has addressed how hot ammo can get before there are issues, but I forget what that temperature is.
I have a console gun safe in my vehicle and an additional one under the seat. I've stored ammo in it year round with no adverse effects. I pull it and replace it once a year and use the old in my practice regimen. Have never had any adverse effects.

[RJ]

Think about how hot it was in the trailer when it was being shipped and stored.

Copy.

Beyond this last comment, I’ll let the thread get back to Ruger LCRs: I bought a couple calibrated remote T/RH sensors for work for an application a few months ago. I might grab one and leave it in the car at work over the next few weeks to see how hot, exactly, it gets.

https://www.omega.com/pptst/OM-70_SERIES.html

[Radar Love]

Tangentially related, but might be of interest...I was looking up info on Ruger's patents and found the one for the LCR's fire control housing: https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/62/60/53/64efa18d769274/US20090044436A1.pdf

[LSP552]

This has been, IMO, a typical PF technical thread. Outstanding detail and direct knowledge and experience. I have been pondering another j-frame but this thread really makes me want a .38 LCR instead.

[Jared]

This has been, IMO, a typical PF technical thread. Outstanding detail and direct knowledge and experience. I have been pondering another j-frame but this thread really makes me want a .38 LCR instead.

This is coming from a fan of the old school Smith's, but I really really like my 357 LCR. Matter of fact, I need to get off my ass and order a Dark Star holster for mine.

[Gun Mutt]

Do LCR's still have an internal lock? My google-fu really sucks and I can't find a 2018 answer to this question.

[Bigghoss]

Do LCR's still have an internal lock? My google-fu really sucks and I can't find a 2018 answer to this question.

No. Not sure when but they stopped that a few years ago.

[Gun Mutt]

I had an LCR a many, many years ago, but I only shot it a few times and sold it for what I had in it. Like Mickey Knox said of his previous thoughts on key lime pie, I'm a different man than I was then, so perhaps it's time to give the LCR a fresh chance...probably 8 shot .22LR trim. Now, what grips? Why isn't there an LCR picture thread?

[RJ]

Matter of fact, I need to get off my ass and order a Dark Star holster for mine.

Yes; yes you do. ;)

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[Totem Polar]

Why isn't there an LCR picture thread?

Because they make a Glock look like Gal Gadot by way of comparison? Nothing against the poly Rugers function-wise, but hoo boy; fugly stick.

[LockedBreech]

Because they make a Glock look like Gal Gadot by way of comparison? Nothing against the poly Rugers function-wise, but hoo boy; fugly stick.

Beauty is in the eye of the gun holder, specifically the metal part of the Smith J-frames that stings your hand, which is nice and covered with rubber by the LCR. Having owned both, LCR all day, no disrespect to the 642.

I don’t need a supermodel, just thiccness in the right places.


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[Totem Polar]

Having owned both, LCR all day, no disrespect to the 642.


Nothing wrong with preferring the LCR; a gun designed to be carried a lot, and looked at a little.

I love the running gear in my wife’s jeep too, especially in winter. I don’t need a picture thread of the undercarriage though.

:D

[Jared]

Yes; yes you do. ;)

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Ok Rich, it's funny you quoted a 3 month old post of mine...... because I finally got off my ass and ordered that holster last week, haha.

ETA: once the holster gets here, the last 38 J frame is leaving for a 38 LCR, and I'm probably sending a spare pump shotgun down the road to get the 22 LR version.

[Polecat]

Almost resurrected this one on my own, thanks guys. Just got a 9mm for steal. Bought my .327 back last week and LLOVEE that thing!! My .327 wont shoot .32 ACP’s at all. The .32 mag is the bomb.

I am trying the 9mm again. I didn’t like it first time around, but I am gonna spend more time with it, just cause ammos cheap, easy reloads. I’ll give it a “shot.”

Does the absence of the lock allow you to replace the hammer spring without full dissasembly?

[Willard]

Yes; yes you do. ;)

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What type of snap caps are those? Might need to pick up some to replace my A-Zooms. Thanks.

[RJ]

What type of snap caps are those? Might need to pick up some to replace my A-Zooms. Thanks.

I believe it was these:

ST Action Pro - .38 Spl Action Trainer Dummy Round - 6 Rounds

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004JJC2N6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_MlUiCbYZ208FJ


Since purchase I’ve learned the primer pocket is not filled in, so if you want them as a cushion for Dry Practice, they might not be the best choice. They work for me for learning to manipulate my LCR (I’m pretty new to revolvers and the LCR is my first one).

[RJ]

Does the absence of the lock allow you to replace the hammer spring without full dissasembly?
Enel might know, he had/has a 9mm LCR I believe.


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[Doc_Glock]

Enel might know, he had/has a 9mm LCR I believe.


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I do not know.

[jandbj]

https://www.gunsprings.com/RUGER/LCR,%20LCRx/cID3/mID52/dID458

I find this most interesting for the possibility/probability that someone HeadHunter will now swap a 10lb spring into the rimfire for a test drive.

[Gun Mutt]

Because they make a Glock look like Gal Gadot by way of comparison? Nothing against the poly Rugers function-wise, but hoo boy; fugly stick.

I don't totally disagree, but then again, I look at the right LCR, with the right grips, at just the right angle, and I get a little Deckard OG Blade Runner vibe off of them.

Anyway, my point was more about what a great resource that j-frame picture thread is...holsters, grips, finishes, sights, loading devices, it's all been covered in there. So c'mon, ugly it up a little in here.

What's the scoop on Hogue boot grips? Am I reading that they have different inserts available?
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Are these no groove Hogue's the same length as the OEM grips?
33565

Is anyone running the Hogue G10's?
33566

And when is @VZ Grips going to offer something for the LCR? Did I miss it?

[Bigghoss]

Are these no groove Hogue's the same length as the OEM grips?
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Those are standard on the LCRx3" models. They are longer than the finger groove grips, you should be able to get your whole hand on them.

[Gun Mutt]

Thanks, that's what my eyes were telling me, but I couldn't find anything specific on Hogue's site.

[MK11]

The Hogue boot grips reduce the profile of the LCR considerably and make it close to the same size as a stock 442/642. The sides seem like a slick synthetic that doesn’t bind up in your pocket or snag on your clothes while the rear retains some cushion, although that is more theoretical than practical. Shooting with the boot grips can be brutal.

[mmc45414]

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I have several J-frames and an SP-101 and I would still like to have one set up like this to try.

[Gun Mutt]

Fine, P-Fuck it, ordered one in .22LR...and some Hogue G10's...and another @DSG...P-Fucking place is expensive.

Now, where's the thread that tells me what .22LR ammo for this snubbie?

[awp_101]

The youngest boy has been carrying a .38 LCR snub for about 3 years and has been perfectly happy with it. He bought it new and the transfer bar has rattled from the moment he took it out of the box. Outside of that he’s had no complaints. I upgraded him to a PHLster City Special for Christmas from an Uncle Mikes (cursed be the name).

[Buckeye63]

My LCR of choice is my LCR357 with Bantam boot grips ... Weighs 16 oz on my scales with these grips , easier to conceal and makes pocket carry possible..
I carry Underwood 38Spl +P 125gr Gold dot or Remington 357mag Golden Saber ... The 357 mag is a bit spirited in this handgun with 357 mag ammo , but the Golden Saber doesn't buck as bad as most ... 33600

[peterb]

Now, where's the thread that tells me what .22LR ammo for this snubbie?

For reliability and penetration, I’d start with CCI MiniMag solids.

http://cci-ammunition.com/products/detail.aspx?use=5&loadNo=0030

[Doc_Glock]

Those are standard on the LCRx3" models. They are longer than the finger groove grips, you should be able to get your whole hand on them.

I just shot my standard 9mm LCR with these grips and it made the gun much more tolerable. It still sucks to shoot though.

[vaspence]

Fine, P-Fuck it, ordered one in .22LR...and some Hogue G10's...and another @DSG...P-Fucking place is expensive.

Now, where's the thread that tells me what .22LR ammo for this snubbie?

I also like the Mini Mags but the Stingers shoot just as well. I only have my two LCR .22lrs to compare, but I find extraction of a full cylinder of empties a lot easier with the nickel cased Stingers.

[Polecat]

Enel, just curious have you shot any 147, 158gr subsonic stuff in it?

[Bigghoss]

I just shot my standard 9mm LCR with these grips and it made the gun much more tolerable. It still sucks to shoot though.

I bought one of those grips but it makes the gun very un-pocketable which is what I got it for. I haven't shot my 9mm LCR yet. I have a .357 but I stick to .38+p.

[Gun Mutt]

Love this .22! Fixed my Hogue's today...big, pic heavy post brewing, ran out of time this weekend.

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[RJ]

I took my LCR out of the safe this morning and noticed this sound when shook. I don’t remember it doing this before.

https://youtu.be/_yNjEC7wXa8

Thoughts?

Trigger press appears to feel normal. It is hard to determine where the origin of the sound is, but it appears to be centered on the area just behind the cylinder release latch. I get the same sound if the trigger or cylinder is held still.

[Hi-Point Aficionado]

That'd be your transfer bar. All LCRs rattle. I'm currently vegging out next to mine and gave it a quick shake to confirm it's the same familiar sound.

[RJ]

That'd be your transfer bar. All LCRs rattle. I'm currently vegging out next to mine and gave it a quick shake to confirm it's the same familiar sound.

Phew!

Love my LCR. I was freaking out my usual "go walk the dog" option had an issue. :)

[Polecat]

You guys are a bunch of enablers. I decided to buy another a 9mm LCR. Not as bad as I thought way back when I had my first. Anyway, just the price of 9mm, moonclips, better ejection, pushed me over the edge. Now, pondering getting rid of my .327 and .38, as they are kind of redundant.

[Gun Mutt]

DSG

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Fricke Zach

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[willie]

I took my LCR out of the safe this morning and noticed this sound when shook. I don’t remember it doing this before.

https://youtu.be/_yNjEC7wXa8

Thoughts?

Trigger press appears to feel normal. It is hard to determine where the origin of the sound is, but it appears to be centered on the area just behind the cylinder release latch. I get the same sound if the trigger or cylinder is held still.;

I have had all models of Smith revolvers produce a similar rattle when shaken. In Smiths, there is a separate piece serving as a hammer block. It rides in a groove within the side plate. Double action competitors would routinely remove it in an attempt to make the action smoother. But back to your revolver. I suspect that you are hearing movement from a similar part found in Smiths. Note that in these, all do not rattle.

You guys with the LCR's have been creating a most informative and interesting thread. You have fine weapons.

[Gun Mutt]

Bringing this discussion over here from the J-Frame Picture thread (https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?26954-J-frame-picture-thread/page43).

Over the weekend, I was thinking of doing the exact mods to my DSG for my LCR as in the picture below.

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Orionz06: "What issue are you having with the LCR? Adding a wing to a snubby holster may have some negative affects as it increases the ability of the belt to force the gun into the body as it rotates the grip in. A Tuckstrut would be the preferred method to give a little boost in concealment should there be some printing. Foam may be a better intermediate step too."

I obviously very much like the DSG clip holster or I wouldn't own 3 of them and recommend them to others, so none of what I'm going to say is criticism, just my experience with my gun on my body. My j-frame DSG works like a charm and while I'd seen mods like this before, I didn't see where I needed it for my 442. My LCR .22LR is dimensionally close to my 442, close in weight, too, but the LCR carries very differently. The LCR feels ridiculously light by comparison and the while the Hogue G10's I have on it don't extend past the grip screw, they are notably longer than the j's grip frame.

Herein lies the rub, I actually think the DSG clip works too well in this instance. The strong, wide, flat surface area of the clip overwhelm the light weight of the LCR and as it pulls the cylinder in tighter to my belt, that in turn pulls the grip away from my body. The bottom 2/3 of my grip doesn't even make contact with my fairly flat belly. When the holster is straight up and down on my belt, it rides significantly higher than my j-frame does. However, since I wear it on a 1.5" Graith every day, it regularly shifts to cant the butt closer to the belt line as I move around. No big deal with a j-frame, but with my LCR's longer grip straying away from my body, it can print worse than a G19 under the wrong shirt.

I think a 1.5" DCC clip would keep the LCR more vertical and allow me to run the holster a little lower while eliminating the inward push against the cylinder. The Tuckstrut would pull the grip into my belly nicely.

[23JAZ]

Bringing this discussion over here from the J-Frame Picture thread (https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?26954-J-frame-picture-thread/page43).

Over the weekend, I was thinking of doing the exact mods to my DSG for my LCR as in the picture below.

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Orionz06: "What issue are you having with the LCR? Adding a wing to a snubby holster may have some negative affects as it increases the ability of the belt to force the gun into the body as it rotates the grip in. A Tuckstrut would be the preferred method to give a little boost in concealment should there be some printing. Foam may be a better intermediate step too."

I obviously very much like the DSG clip holster or I wouldn't own 3 of them and recommend them to others, so none of what I'm going to say is criticism, just my experience with my gun on my body. My j-frame DSG works like a charm and while I'd seen mods like this before, I didn't see where I needed it for my 442. My LCR .22LR is dimensionally close to my 442, close in weight, too, but the LCR carries very differently. The LCR feels ridiculously light by comparison and the while the Hogue G10's I have on it don't extend past the grip screw, they are notably longer than the j's grip frame.

Herein lies the rub, I actually think the DSG clip works too well in this instance. The strong, wide, flat surface area of the clip overwhelm the light weight of the LCR and as it pulls the cylinder in tighter to my belt, that in turn pulls the grip away from my body. The bottom 2/3 of my grip doesn't even make contact with my fairly flat belly. When the holster is straight up and down on my belt, it rides significantly higher than my j-frame does. However, since I wear it on a 1.5" Graith every day, it regularly shifts to cant the butt closer to the belt line as I move around. No big deal with a j-frame, but with my LCR's longer grip straying away from my body, it can print worse than a G19 under the wrong shirt.

I think a 1.5" DCC clip would keep the LCR more vertical and allow me to run the holster a little lower while eliminating the inward push against the cylinder. The Tuckstrut would pull the grip into my belly nicely.

what you’re describing is exactly the issues I had. The clip was so wide the butt of the gun printed and it tilted down. After switching to just the one thin DCC clip the printing stopped and the ride height increased just enough so my knuckles wouldn’t rub my VGW belt. Then adding the wing fixed the tilting issue. It’s a great holster but my modifications made it perfect for me.
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what you’re describing is exactly the issues I had. The clip was so wide the butt of the gun printed and it tilted down. After switching to just the one thin DCC clip the printing stopped and the ride height increased just enough so my knuckles wouldn’t rub my VGW belt. Then adding the wing fixed the tilting issue. It’s a great holster but my modifications made it perfect for me.
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Is this the correct clip? https://discreetcarryconcepts.com/Tenicor-T1-HLR-Discreet-Gear-Clip%E2%84%A2-1-5-belt-*Available-with-the-Tenicor-VELO-holster-exclusively-at-Tenicor-com*-p108882825

What did you do for the foam pad?

[23JAZ]

Is this the correct clip? https://discreetcarryconcepts.com/Tenicor-T1-HLR-Discreet-Gear-Clip%E2%84%A2-1-5-belt-*Available-with-the-Tenicor-VELO-holster-exclusively-at-Tenicor-com*-p108882825

What did you do for the foam pad?
Yes that’s the clip. I used a flat 1/4” neoprene foam pad.

[JimCunn]

" Or can a 147-grain 9mm get a decent speed from a sub-2" barrel?"

I have converted three Airweight 637-2 J-frames to 9mm, using titanium .38Sp/.357Mag cylinders to get the weight down to 12.5oz and reaming for 9x19mm and moonclips.

9mm 147gr jhp chronos 946fps for 292 ft-lbs in a 1-7/8" J-frame conversion. Recoil is brisk.

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Yes that’s the clip. I used a flat 1/4” neoprene foam pad.

Actually now that I’ve looked at it more I think you have the MOD 4.

[Doc_Glock]

" Or can a 147-grain 9mm get a decent speed from a sub-2" barrel?"

I have converted three Airweight 637-2 J-frames to 9mm, using titanium .38Sp/.357Mag cylinders to get the weight down to 12.5oz and reaming for 9x19mm and moonclips.

9mm 147gr jhp chronos 946fps for 292 ft-lbs in a 1-7/8" J-frame conversion. Recoil is brisk.

Oh lord that must be painful to shoot.

On the LCR note. Played with the one in the safe last night. After a couple thousand rounds it is no worse for wear and has a seriously nice DA pull.

[JimCunn]

Not bad, really.
I'm one of those lucky souls who isn't particularly recoil sensitive.
For practice sessions, it only takes about a minute and a half to switch to the titanium .38Sp/.357Mag cylinder and shoot .38Sp wadcutters. Weight remains 12.5oz. That's a lot milder experience.

[Gun Mutt]

Now, pondering getting rid of my .327 and .38, as they are kind of redundant.

Let me know if you decide to sell the .327, I've been pondering posting a WTT; my 442pc-tune for LCR .327.

Colder weather saw me carrying my G19 daily, so holster mods for the LCR just kind of fell by the wayside. I was cleaning out one of my gear drawers and ran across some extra velcro and pads I'd gotten in trades, so I decided to see what kind of difference it made with the DSG holster. Turns out, quite a bit and all of it good. I ran the thicker pad the first day and switched to the thinner for the last two days.

It had become my habit to shelve the G19 when I got home from work and wear the LCR in a Zach around the house for the evening. The DSG is so damn comfy now, I've literally had it on from the time I put pants on in the morning until I take them off at night. Eliminates even the thought of a hot spot and nicely pushes the grip into my Adonis like (:rolleyes:) abs.

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[Gun Mutt]

Anyone ever notice that the retention on their DSG AIWB snub rig has loosened up a little over time? I had, so I emailed Tom thinking at best my holster would be taking a trip to the mother ship and I'd be without it for a while. Nope, Tom patiently explained that the extra post and screw that comes with the holster can be put in the empty hole under the trigger guard and tightened like any other retention screw.

Worked like a charm, thanks Tom@DSG!

I installed mine with the screw head to the rear of the holster for easy access while I play with tuning the tension:

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[Gun Mutt]

So I'm back to the Tamers that came on my LCR and slowly removing the finger groove and outer edges with a dremel and emery cloth. I liked the Hogue G10's to an extent, but they're just too long for my edc needs...might as well carry my G19. The Hogue boot grip is decent for what it is, I definitely need to stipple the slick sides a bit, but for deepest concealment, like in a belly band under a tucked in shirt, I can see their merit.

What I'd really like is a set of G10's from VZ, but alas, they've no plans to make them for the LCR at this time. If you're a fan of VZ grips, maybe take a moment and give them a gentle push to put in the design time. Contact VZ link here (https://vzgrips.com/contacts).
#vzlcrgrips (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=vzlcrgrips)

[Polecat]

Cant wait to see these modified hogues

[Buckshot]

Stippling the Boot Grip made them 200% more effective for me. I'm not a stippler, but I did it in under 10 minutes (prolly shows, too). This old LCR (1rst year model) has travelled with me many years now and has been a great snub. It is the most UNmodified carry gun I own (front sight & chamfered cyl - that's it), & that is saying something for a gunsmith. 37692

[spinmove_]

Stippling the Boot Grip made them 200% more effective for me. I'm not a stippler, but I did it in under 10 minutes (prolly shows, too). This old LCR (1rst year model) has travelled with me many years now and has been a great snub. It is the most UNmodified carry gun I own (front sight & chamfered cyl - that's it), & that is saying something for a gunsmith. 37692

That’s actually pretty slick. How well does that grip handle felt recoil? Can you get at least 2 fingers on it?


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[Polecat]

Buckshot, can you show a sighted view of that front sight? Is that a Novak?

Thank,
Dave

[Polecat]

How did you stipple that? That looks pretty good!

[BehindBlueI's]

Buckshot, can you show a sighted view of that front sight? Is that a Novak?

Thank,
Dave

This is the Novak:

https://loungecdn.luckygunner.com/lounge/media/sights-comparison-1-1.jpg

https://www.luckygunner.com/lounge/snub-nose-sights-matter/

Note for POA/POI match you have to align the dot with the tops of the rear sight, try to center the circle and you'll be aiming quite low.

[Buckshot]

Sorry for posting & then disappearing there!
Yes, it is a Novak & BehindBlueI's is dead-on as to the sight picture. I think of it like a shotgun bead - I want to see the entire FO rod or white outline (I've used both) visible in the rear trough.
I used one of the inexpensive kits kits from OT Defense that I bought for my previous journeyman who wanted to try his hand at stippling. It's the first thing I ever stippled & took about 5 minutes.

[Buckshot]

That’s actually pretty slick. How well does that grip handle felt recoil? Can you get at least 2 fingers on it?


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1 1/2 fingers - I have biggish hands! But they are fully functional for me with stippling-easily 150% better & stays planted under recoil. The boot grips soften recoil as well as the stock grips for me. I've got arthritis in my thumbs & wrists and the other options I tried in wood, G10 & nylon were intolerable for me through a reasonable practice session. I'm pretty much stuck using some sort of Goodyears on any revolver that recoils worse than a 38 Spl K frame if I want to shoot more than a dozen rounds or so.

[RJ]

Question for the brain trust.

I have a Ruger LCR model 5450 chambered in .357. I only shoot .38 wad cutters through it. I really really like it.

Is there any down side to trading it in for a LCR model 5401, chambered in .38 special/+p?

I figure the most significant benefit is almost 4 ozs in weight savings; which since I pocket carry it, would be a good thing for me.

But maybe I’m missing something. TIA.

Rich


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[wvincent]

If you shoot it much, you might miss those 4 ounces. I find the fun meter starts going down hill after about 25 rounds with mine.

[Hizzie]

Question for the brain trust.

I have a Ruger LCR model 5450 chambered in .357. I only shoot .38 wad cutters through it. I really really like it.

Is there any down side to trading it in for a LCR model 5401, chambered in .38 special/+p?

I figure the most significant benefit is almost 4 ozs in weight savings; which since I pocket carry it, would be a good thing for me.

But maybe I’m missing something. TIA.

Rich


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But that’s also 4 less ounces soaking up recoil. That will make Shooting it less pleasant. No free lunch.

[RJ]

But that’s also 4 less ounces soaking up recoil. That will make Shooting it less pleasant. No free lunch.

Yeah.

I might just buy the 5401 and compare them back to back. The wad cutters are not, really a load with a huge amount of recoil.

I mean, at this point I have shot the 5450 enough to where I’m very comfortable with it. So, shooting the 5401 will be just enough to confirm POI, but after that it will only get fired a cylinder or three a month.

Thanks guys.

[mmc45414]

The 5401 is one of the cheapest quality guns out there, just get one and decide later.

You could just leave the 357 in your gun bag so it always is there with you at the range.

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[Jared]

Question for the brain trust.

I have a Ruger LCR model 5450 chambered in .357. I only shoot .38 wad cutters through it. I really really like it.

Is there any down side to trading it in for a LCR model 5401, chambered in .38 special/+p?

I figure the most significant benefit is almost 4 ozs in weight savings; which since I pocket carry it, would be a good thing for me.

But maybe I’m missing something. TIA.

Rich


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I have, and use, both. 357 with 38's for range use and belt carry, 38 model for the pocket. I need to get a set of the Hogue boot grips or Eagle Secret Service grips for the 38. I friggin love the LCR family (4 in total, the other two are 22's) so much that I'm down to one J frame, and it's an older model 63.

[wvincent]

I have, and use, both. 357 with 38's for range use and belt carry, 38 model for the pocket. I need to get a set of the Hogue boot grips or Eagle Secret Service grips for the 38. I friggin love the LCR family (4 in total, the other two are 22's) so much that I'm down to one J frame, and it's an older model 63.

How much do the Hogue boots help with pocket carry? I have the CTC and it is not happening.

[SAWBONES]

I've said this before, but as one who had the unrealistic optimism to hope for the "ultimate compromise" in light weight plus maximal potency in a CCW gun, and who accordingly tested all available premium commercial .357 Magnum loads (20-50 rounds each, in bullet weights from 110gr to 158gr) in my two S&W 340PDs about ten years ago, I can say from experience that ".357 is not an optimal solution" in these little lightweight guns.

The better .38 Special loads proved more accurate than any of the .357 loads, with the Gold Dot Short Barrel .38 Special+P JHP coming out on top, which load of course also had less felt recoil than any of the .357 rounds.

So... IMNSHO, if you're going to carry a short-barrel lightweight 5-shot revolver, get one in dedicated .38 Special configuration if you can, rather than .357.

Why put up with the longer cylinder holes' fouling and the effectively-longer bullet jump from cylinder to forcing-cone, when shooting .38 Special+P is both probably a bit more accurate and faster for follow-up shots?

I think most guys who buy .357 Magnum rather than .38 Special lightweight snubby revolvers imagine that they're "maximizing their options", but then they never shoot anything through them but .38 Special loads, so in the case of the LCR, unless you really do want the extra weight of the .357, I'd get the dedicated .38 Special version, and that's what I have indeed done (two LCRs, both .38 Special), in fact almost all my .38 Special "snubby" revolvers are made of alloys, while all my .357 revolvers are solid steel.

The dedicated .38 Special version will be both lighter to carry and easier to clean, and maybe a bit more accurate.

[BehindBlueI's]

My .357 will hold 2" groups at 7y free hand with both standard pressure and +P .38 loads. I don't know how much more accurate a .38 only would be, but I figure it's immaterial for me and my uses.

[Jared]

How much do the Hogue boots help with pocket carry? I have the CTC and it is not happening.

I can't say for sure as I don't have a set yet. Need to get off my ass and order some. I have read reports that they help a lot as compared to the factory grips. For $25, I figure it's worth a shot.

[ratter75]

I can't say for sure as I don't have a set yet. Need to get off my ass and order some. I have read reports that they help a lot as compared to the factory grips. For $25, I figure it's worth a shot.

The hogue boot grip works 100% better for pocket carry than the normal grip. And it still has the gel insert to tame recoil. For pocket carry it is a win-win.

[eb07]

So I modified my boot grip for carry. I like it much better that way,. Modified for my hand. Using a dremel. I figure if I messed it up it's only 20 bucks. Works fine for pocket carry too.

However I went back to the j frame. The LCR trigger was too long and while better out of the box, I occasionally had short strokes when running and gunning. Once I had my j frame gone over by Nelson Ford, the trigger is great. I prefer the j frame but carry the LCR 357 occasionally. I put a lot of rounds downrange on both of them to come to that conclusion.


https://i.postimg.cc/htX1F440/IMG-20190609-185811.jpg


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[ratter75]

So I modified my boot grip for carry. I like it much better that way,. Modified for my hand. Using a dremel. I figure if I messed it up it's only 20 bucks. Works fine for pocket carry too.

However I went back to the j frame. The LCR trigger was too long and while better out of the box, I occasionally had short strokes when running and gunning. Once I had my j frame gone over by Nelson Ford, the trigger is great. I prefer the j frame but carry the LCR 357 occasionally. I put a lot of rounds downrange on both of them to come to that conclusion.


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Notice any difference size-wise in your pocket between the two?

Sold my LCR a while back. Going to grab either another LCR, or a 442/642.

[eb07]

Notice any difference size-wise in your pocket between the two?

Sold my LCR a while back. Going to grab either another LCR, or a 442/642.

Yes LCR is a little longer and taller so the naturally the grip is closer to the pocket opening. With shorter pockets J frame is still gone. LCR bulges a bit at pocket opening.

I only pocket carry in my deep pocket shorts anymore, mostly it's AIWB so that is a moot point for me but yes the LCR is slightly longer and taller so it makes a difference.

[jandbj]

Did not even know this existed...
https://www.tacticalwholesalers.com/XS-Sight-Systems-Standard-Dot-Org-Ruger-LCR-22-Only-RP-0014N-1N_p_160721.html

[Holmes375]

Did not even know this existed...
https://www.tacticalwholesalers.com/XS-Sight-Systems-Standard-Dot-Org-Ruger-LCR-22-Only-RP-0014N-1N_p_160721.html

For the rimfire LCRs only.

[willie]

My lgs in Waco has a like new .38 Spl in the box. It was offered to me for $200 cash out the door. Has pink grips. Anybody else in the region would get same price if I introduced them. I checked it out. 100% ok. Pm me if I can help.

[Jamie]

Did not even know this existed...
https://www.tacticalwholesalers.com/XS-Sight-Systems-Standard-Dot-Org-Ruger-LCR-22-Only-RP-0014N-1N_p_160721.html

Me either. Thank you as this is what I want for my .22 LCR to match the sights I have on my .38.

[jandbj]

Me either. Thank you as this is what I want for my .22 LCR to match the sights I have on my .38.
Precisely the reason I posted it.

I may “need” another LCR22 for this very reason. It can keep the 43c & 63 3” company.

I may have rimfire revolver issues. :cool:

[Holmes375]

Precisely the reason I posted it.

I may “need” another LCR22 for this very reason. It can keep the 43c & 63 3” company.

I may have rimfire revolver issues. :cool:

Understood ;)

[RJ]

Me either. Thank you as this is what I want for my .22 LCR to match the sights I have on my .38.

Jamie apologies if I missed it, but what sights do you have on your .38?

[RJ]

The Ruger Hogue Bantam / Boot Grip Item #19927 $29.95 from Ruger arrived.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190726/4ceb970de477ccf620fb99839585a3c0.jpg

I had to ah gently but firmly tap it home with my BF dead blow hammer. It was very snug. The original retaining screw was a T10 I noticed. The screw that came with the boot grip had a slotted end. The grip appears similar to the original at first glance, but it is significantly thinner and less brawny, especially near the butt. Feels nice in the hand, as well as the pocket.


Which is convenient because my order of 200 Federal Gold Medal 38 Special 148 gr Wadcutters ($19.95 / 50 plus shipping from TargetSportsUSA: https://www.targetsportsusa.com/federal-gold-medal-38-special-ammo-148-grain-match-wadcutter-gm38a-p-1187.aspx ) arrived today as well.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190726/40aa034ad0d6775f4061502f2f3c74ec.jpg

Range trip Sunday. :cool:


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[Jared]

Did not even know this existed...
https://www.tacticalwholesalers.com/XS-Sight-Systems-Standard-Dot-Org-Ruger-LCR-22-Only-RP-0014N-1N_p_160721.html

It’s an XS sight, so I went straight to their website. They have them in stock, models for the 22/9mm guns and 38/357 models. Excellent find, thank you!

[RJ]

So after weighing the options I ordered a Novak Mega Dot White Tritium front sight from Brownells:

http://www.brownells.com/handgun-parts/sights/front-sights/ruger-lcr-mega-dot-tritium-night-sight-sku662000096-41993-78379.aspx

Should arrive next week, looking forward to trying it out.

[Jamie]

Jamie apologies if I missed it, but what sights do you have on your .38?

Sorry to be so long in replying. Busy work week!

I have the XS Dot sights on my .38. I really like them. I purchased the gun locally from one of the local/regional forums and he had placed them on the gun.

I ran XS Big Dot's on a couple of Glocks for several years and appreciate their ease of acquisition.

btw...I received my Bantam grips in the mail yesterday and will be putting them on in a short while. Now I just need a day off to hit the range!

I also ordered the XS Orange Dot for my .22 LCR thanks to jandbj

[Holmes375]

So after weighing the options I ordered a Novak Mega Dot White Tritium front sight from Brownells:

http://www.brownells.com/handgun-parts/sights/front-sights/ruger-lcr-mega-dot-tritium-night-sight-sku662000096-41993-78379.aspx

Should arrive next week, looking forward to trying it out.

I had that sight on an LCR several years ago and quite liked it. Bet you will too.

I'm a fan of the XS Dots but I liked the profile of the Novak front sight better. Maybe just the familiarity with square things... ;)

[Totem Polar]

So, I went into my favorite LGS today, and lo and behold, there was a LNIB original recipe 13.5 oz .38 LCR. 3 bills. Sweet trigger. I’ll pick it up whenever WA state’s new retrograde background check retardery decides I can. I guess I’ve officially begun the shift over to the LCR for my 2" 5-shot needs.

[ekrauos]

I've said this before, but as one who had the unrealistic optimism to hope for the "ultimate compromise" in light weight plus maximal potency in a CCW gun, and who accordingly tested all available premium commercial .357 Magnum loads (20-50 rounds each, in bullet weights from 110gr to 158gr) in my two S&W 340PDs about ten years ago, I can say from experience that ".357 is not an optimal solution" in these little lightweight guns.

The better .38 Special loads proved more accurate than any of the .357 loads, with the Gold Dot Short Barrel .38 Special+P JHP coming out on top, which load of course also had less felt recoil than any of the .357 rounds.

So... IMNSHO, if you're going to carry a short-barrel lightweight 5-shot revolver, get one in dedicated .38 Special configuration if you can, rather than .357.

Why put up with the longer cylinder holes' fouling and the effectively-longer bullet jump from cylinder to forcing-cone, when shooting .38 Special+P is both probably a bit more accurate and faster for follow-up shots?

I think most guys who buy .357 Magnum rather than .38 Special lightweight snubby revolvers imagine that they're "maximizing their options", but then they never shoot anything through them but .38 Special loads, so in the case of the LCR, unless you really do want the extra weight of the .357, I'd get the dedicated .38 Special version, and that's what I have indeed done (two LCRs, both .38 Special), in fact almost all my .38 Special "snubby" revolvers are made of alloys, while all my .357 revolvers are solid steel.

The dedicated .38 Special version will be both lighter to carry and easier to clean, and maybe a bit more accurate.

If we wanted a dedicated .38 AND the extra weight, could we install a .38 cylinder in a 357 frame? eBay has lots of 38 cylinders listed

[SAWBONES]

I don't think so, as cylinders in dedicated .38 Special guns are typically slightly shorter than .357 Magnum cylinders, I believe, so if you put a too-short cylinder into a frame whose cylinder opening is over-long for it, there'll be an open gap between the cylinder face and the forcing cone.

(I don't have either a .38 Special or .357 revolver nearby at present, so I can't measure the differences, but that's my guess.)

[ekrauos]

I just measured LCR 357. Cylinder length about 1.56"

[snubasaurus]

My .38 & .22LR. The .38 is my EDC with Winchester Super X 148gr WCs. I carried J frames for years before I got the .38 around 7-8 years ago. If I could only keep one it would be that one. Its the most practical, easy to carry (pocket), easiest to shoot accurately carry piece Ive ever experienced.
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[Old Virginia]

I started shooting the LCR9mm about 5 years ago. Heard all the nonsense of crimp jump etc. I was a terrible shot with one. But for me that was a challenge. Started shooting that gun on a regular basis and fell in love with it. Just a fun gun to shoot. This side of Pleasant before going over and can shoot a lot of rounds in one session. Typically load up about 40 moon clips before a range session. (Ruger moon clips suck, I buy mine for Speedbeeze). I love moon clips, fast, easy to load, easy to carry. I love the 9mm, like the ballistics, recoil is on the mild side, like the ballistics, and Love the cost. Especially since I love shooting the gun. The 327 was not for me. My God that thing is loud and ammo cost a fortune in comparison.
The crip jump is a non issue. Yes some cheap crap will do this, but you quickly find out what works with no problem. I had a discussion with the Ruger Tech one day and he asked me what ammo I preferred. I said American Eagle and a Lot of Fiocchi. He said, Fiocchi is what they use to test the guns.
I was shooting this gun so often that I went out and bought a LCR22. NOW that turned out to the ONE very fun gun to shoot. I love taking it to the range. Love 8 fast shots at multiple targets.

I can say enough good thinks about the LCR9mm. Just a lovely snub nose revolver that once learned is easy to shoot and as accurate as you want to make it.

Here is a Great Link about the LCR9mm! A lot of good facts. http://mousegunaddict.blogspot.com/search?q=lcr+9mm

https://i.imgur.com/0OPluvK.jpg?3

[Doc_Glock]

I love the 9mm, like the ballistics, recoil is on the mild side,

I too found the 9mm accurate, reliable and easy to load, but feel I must provide a counterpoint as I find the recoil extremely annoying. So much so, I haven't shot it much since I tested it with 2,000 rounds. Every time I take it to the range I am done in less than 50. I am a bit recoil sensitive and don't have a ton of experience with a ton of stuff besides 9mm autos to take it for what it is worth.

[ekrauos]

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.38 cylinder drops right into a 357 frame. Gap is about the same to my eye, rotates and locks up just the same. My 357 is 2011 manufacture, the 38 cylinder is 2017 I think. A great example of modern manufacturing and the tolerance they acheive.

I will take it to the range soon I hope.

[jandbj]

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.38 cylinder drops right into a 357 frame. Gap is about the same to my eye, rotates and locks up just the same. My 357 is 2011 manufacture, the 38 cylinder is 2017 I think. A great example of modern manufacturing and the tolerance they acheive.

I will take it to the range soon I hope.

This makes me wonder about getting a 9mm cylinder in a 38 frame... airlight-ish 9mm thoughts.

I apparently need a 12 step program to stop buying new guns...
LCRx 3” 38 found a new home with me this week. Couldn’t pass it up for $319 out the door. And it’ll be a nice companion for the Puma lever gun and the 77/357 and the Contender SBR... and so it continues.

[GearFondler]

This makes me wonder about getting a 9mm cylinder in a 38 frame... airlight-ish 9mm thoughts.


Ruger specifically put the 9mm in the steel .357 frame for safety... Dropping it in an alloy frame .38 seems like asking for a prosthesis. JMHO.

[jandbj]

Ruger specifically put the 9mm in the steel .357 frame for safety... Dropping it in an alloy frame .38 seems like asking for a prosthesis. JMHO.

Maybe, maybe not... bear in mind S&W made exactly one 942, IIRC. Only reason they didn’t go into production was excessive recoil. And we have at least one member here with 3 9mm 637’s.

[RJ]

Ok I figured this was the best place to get some advice.

Been shooting since 2014 or so, have taken a few training courses etc. I picked up a Ruger LCR .357, and then last year traded down to a LCR .38 because I was only shooting wadcutters. I have been having mixed results lately at the range, and so it occurred to me I have not, really, gotten any instruction in shooting a snub-nosed revolver. At all.

My hands are size M. I have the standard grips that come on the LCR .38. I have experimented a bit and settled on the grip pictured below as the one that seems most "natural" to me. In dry practice, I don't see much jump in the front sight. Shooting, I am able to pass a 5x5 drill typically with 4/5 or 5/5.

Of course, I don't know what I don't know, so if anyone would like to take a look at this grip, and let me know if you see anything obviously wrong with it, please let me know? TIA.

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[OlongJohnson]

My thumbs may be a lot longer, but shooting that way habitually is a good way to pick up a J frame and end up with a thumb adjacent to the cylinder gap. I got cured of it when I tried a .357 in my 640-1. Fortunately only soot embedded in my skin, not lead.

Jerry has a "How to shoot a revolver" video that's worth watching.

[RJ]

Jerry has a "How to shoot a revolver" video that's worth watching.

This one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEHNZFTfSD8

[OlongJohnson]

It's been awhile, but I think that's the one.

[RJ]

This one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEHNZFTfSD8

GRabbed a freeze frame. Mr, Miculek must have big hands, I’m not sure I could do this.

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[Totem Polar]

Ok I figured this was the best place to get some advice.

Been shooting since 2014 or so, have taken a few training courses etc. I picked up a Ruger LCR .357, and then last year traded down to a LCR .38 because I was only shooting wadcutters. I have been having mixed results lately at the range, and so it occurred to me I have not, really, gotten any instruction in shooting a snub-nosed revolver. At all.

My hands are size M. I have the standard grips that come on the LCR .38. I have experimented a bit and settled on the grip pictured below as the one that seems most "natural" to me. In dry practice, I don't see much jump in the front sight. Shooting, I am able to pass a 5x5 drill typically with 4/5 or 5/5.

Of course, I don't know what I don't know, so if anyone would like to take a look at this grip, and let me know if you see anything obviously wrong with it, please let me know? TIA.

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You’ve got pretty decent mitts, and shorter (relatively) thumbs, so you can do the striker-fire grip and make it work.

That said, with compact wheelies, I like to have the strong hand totally in contact with the grip, with the thumb locked down, and the support hand acting in adjunct—sort of like a second TQ on a bleed—to help stop energy leaks.

But don’t take my word for it; take Darryl’s:

[Lex Luthier]

You’ve got pretty decent mitts, and shorter (relatively) thumbs, so you can do the striker-fire grip and make it work.

That said, with compact wheelies, I like to have the strong hand totally in contact with the grip, with the thumb locked down, and the support hand acting in adjunct—sort of like a second TQ on a bleed—to help stop energy leaks.

But don’t take my word for it; take Darryl’s:

This is exactly (no really, exactly) what I was taught circa 1988 via the training staff at the San Francisco Sheriff's Dept.
it's not hard- I watched the same training officer impart the info successfully to my then-70+ year-old moderately arthritic grandmother in the mid 1990s. I shot with her several times after that and she had no trouble keeping the grip properly on a 2" barrel model 36 with Pachmayr compact grips.

[JHC]

GRabbed a freeze frame. Mr, Miculek must have big hands, I’m not sure I could do this.

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That's how I shoot wheelies and my digits are longish but they're nothing like his. I would not use a thumbs forward grip as on a semiauto.

[jetfire]

Ok I figured this was the best place to get some advice.

Been shooting since 2014 or so, have taken a few training courses etc. I picked up a Ruger LCR .357, and then last year traded down to a LCR .38 because I was only shooting wadcutters. I have been having mixed results lately at the range, and so it occurred to me I have not, really, gotten any instruction in shooting a snub-nosed revolver. At all.

My hands are size M. I have the standard grips that come on the LCR .38. I have experimented a bit and settled on the grip pictured below as the one that seems most "natural" to me. In dry practice, I don't see much jump in the front sight. Shooting, I am able to pass a 5x5 drill typically with 4/5 or 5/5.

Of course, I don't know what I don't know, so if anyone would like to take a look at this grip, and let me know if you see anything obviously wrong with it, please let me know? TIA.

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Your grip is fine. I hold my LCR with my thumbs forward, and my j-frame, and my 10mm GP100, etc. You missed the giant forum discussion that Darryl and I had about revolver grip methods a while back.

[Chuck Whitlock]

You’ve got pretty decent mitts, and shorter (relatively) thumbs, so you can do the striker-fire grip and make it work.

That said, with compact wheelies, I like to have the strong hand totally in contact with the grip, with the thumb locked down, and the support hand acting in adjunct—sort of like a second TQ on a bleed—to help stop energy leaks.

But don’t take my word for it; take Darryl’s:

This.


Your grip is fine. I hold my LCR with my thumbs forward, and my j-frame, and my 10mm GP100, etc. You missed the giant forum discussion that Darryl and I had about revolver grip methods a while back.

This would be a good one for you to peruse and chew on, Rich.

Not that you can't, but you don't have to shoot all guns the same way. Although in both instances you pull the trigger and the bullet comes out of the barrel, the internal and external mechanics are different between your Glocks and LCR. IIRC, DB states in that thread that he had an epiphany when an instructor told him, "That Glock isn't a 1911..quit trying to shoot it like one.", or words to that effect.

[Clusterfrack]

I don’t shoot revolvers much, but when I do I use the same grip as for other handguns. Why? Because my index is driven primarily by my support hand, and secondarily by my strong hand. That’s why CZs, Glocks, and even the LCR all index similarly for me.

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https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200224/80337f7109f496716af7effad906a564.jpg

[JHC]

This is not how I grip a revo but it’s how I grip Glocks. YMMV

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[RJ]

OlongJohnson Sidheshooter Lex Luthier JHC jetfire Chuck Whitlock Clusterfrack much appreciate the replies.

I'll also go track down that revolver thread with Nyeti and read up. I coulda missed that for sure; I wasn't quite sure what these "Ree-Voll-Verr" things were when I started shooting, but now I have one. :)

Appreciate the pointers.

Hokay, one follow up, I stumbled (honest) on these grips for the LCR being sold by Amazon. Can one of you guys tell me, would I be wasting my money buying a set of these? I will be honest and admit that a big part of the attraction is they look cool. I just wonder being kinda hard (G10 is basically plastic, right?) maybe the discomfort would increase. OTOH I only shoot Federal GMM wad cutters to protect my mincy office worker hands.

Thoughts?

https://www.amazon.com/Pachmayr-61242-Tactical-Pistol-Checkered/dp/B06Y25BR56/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=ruger+lcr+grips&qid=1582584121&s=sporting-goods&sr=1-2

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[OlongJohnson]

I checked out a set of Pachmayr Renegade laminate grips for a K frame recently. I liked the overall profile in side view, but they were way too square in horizontal cross section, and thick with a somewhat exaggerated palm swell. Would have needed a lot of work to be right. The bigger pic on Amazon looks like these may be similar.

[Chuck Whitlock]

Can one of you guys tell me, would I be wasting my money buying a set of these? I will be honest and admit that a big part of the attraction is they look cool. I just wonder being kinda hard (G10 is basically plastic, right?) maybe the discomfort would increase. OTOH I only shoot Federal GMM wad cutters to protect my mincy office worker hands.

Thoughts?

What would be your definition of "wasting your money"?

The mission drives the gear train, so what do you think buying these will accomplish for you?

Personally, I don't think the purchase will be a "waste", even if you wind up not caring for them. The Tamer grips that came on your LCR are your only frame of reference, so by comparing and contrasting different styles and types of grips you can begin to get a feel for what fits you best, and what you like and dislike. This is one of the benefits of revolver stocks...to be able to be tailored to the individual. $55 isn't a huge wad of money, and if you were so inclined, you could reshape them repeatedly until they were splinters. (with G10, I believe you'll need proper ventilation)

[Redhat]

OlongJohnson Sidheshooter Lex Luthier JHC jetfire Chuck Whitlock Clusterfrack much appreciate the replies.

I'll also go track down that revolver thread with Nyeti and read up. I coulda missed that for sure; I wasn't quite sure what these "Ree-Voll-Verr" things were when I started shooting, but now I have one. :)

Appreciate the pointers.

Hokay, one follow up, I stumbled (honest) on these grips for the LCR being sold by Amazon. Can one of you guys tell me, would I be wasting my money buying a set of these? I will be honest and admit that a big part of the attraction is they look cool. I just wonder being kinda hard (G10 is basically plastic, right?) maybe the discomfort would increase. OTOH I only shoot Federal GMM wad cutters to protect my mincy office worker hands.

Thoughts?

https://www.amazon.com/Pachmayr-61242-Tactical-Pistol-Checkered/dp/B06Y25BR56/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=ruger+lcr+grips&qid=1582584121&s=sporting-goods&sr=1-2

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Here's the thread:

https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?37843-How-to-Grip-A-DA-Revolver

[Redhat]

Here's the thread:

https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?37843-How-to-Grip-A-DA-Revolver

I'll add...hopefully you are doing some one-handed practice as well

[RJ]

What would be your definition of "wasting your money"?

The mission drives the gear train, so what do you think buying these will accomplish for you?

Personally, I don't think the purchase will be a "waste", even if you wind up not caring for them. The Tamer grips that came on your LCR are your only frame of reference, so by comparing and contrasting different styles and types of grips you can begin to get a feel for what fits you best, and what you like and dislike. This is one of the benefits of revolver stocks...to be able to be tailored to the individual. $55 isn't a huge wad of money, and if you were so inclined, you could reshape them repeatedly until they were splinters. (with G10, I believe you'll need proper ventilation)

Thanks Chuck. Hope all is well.

So the first video review I found on these grips, the person actually didn’t like them and put the OEM grips back on lol.

I think I’ll hold off for now. :)

[RJ]

GRabbed a freeze frame. Mr, Miculek must have big hands, I’m not sure I could do this.

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Thanks all for the advice specific to my situation. I’ll post one more comment then done.

Thanks to Redhat, I perused the thread on grip. I tried both the thumbnail over thumbnail and c-clamp (my word to describe Mr Miculek’s grip).

Oddly to me it seems my support hand ‘can’ span the gun+support hand. In Dry Practice tonight it seemed there was less front sight movement than using thumbnail over thumbnail.

Here is the c-clamp:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200225/a28b10e863fcbe742badacd37ce7f2df.jpg

I will try both of these at the range and see how it goes. Much appreciated!

[Totem Polar]

Here's the thread:

https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?37843-How-to-Grip-A-DA-Revolver

And, @RJ, here’s an even older thread on the same topic, where I was trying to ferret out the same info as you:

https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?23835-Revolver-grip-technique

At this point, you’re caught up on current P-F revolver grip thinking.

:)

[RJ]

And, @RJ, here’s an even older thread on the same topic, where I was trying to ferret out the same info as you:

https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?23835-Revolver-grip-technique

At this point, you’re caught up on current P-F revolver grip thinking.

:)

Excellent, thanks. On topic, the below pic, clipped from a link in that thread, of Mr Miculek’s grip on a snubby, is what I call the ‘c-clamp’. As say I’m excited (ok as excited as you can get shooting an LCR :) ) to get to the range to try this out soon.

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[UNM1136]

Just won one of these in 9mm for three and a half bills on GunBroker. Who do we like for holsters? Pocket? Belt? Ankle? This will be a backup piece at work, likely ankle or pocket. At the gym, I have a PistolWear/Thunderwear thing. Would be a primary for some modes of dress and locales, so belt and pocket need to be considered. Will likely eventually wear CT Lasergrips at some point, as I really like lasers on my guns, particularly ones I may teach with. Moon clips on the way.

Of all the carry modes for loaded moon clips I am liking the Ruger offeringhttps://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=589423, as it emulates the old split six speed loader pouches I loved a younger, skinnier, revolver totin' youngster. It puts two of the rounds behind the belt so the rounds in the clip straddle ths belt, reducing bulk.

Thanks in advance,

pat

[ekrauos]

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I use the Darryl method.
Full contact with thumb, I squeeze as hard as I can.
I'm more accurate with this LCR than a 1911, even out to 25 yds rapid fire

Stock grips.

[Baldanders]

Excellent, thanks. On topic, the below pic, clipped from a link in that thread, of Mr Miculek’s grip on a snubby, is what I call the ‘c-clamp’. As say I’m excited (ok as excited as you can get shooting an LCR :) ) to get to the range to try this out soon.

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Damn, I came to the same technique as Miculek?

Must be my 625 talking to me.

(I'm pretty sure I heard it described here, then I tried it, beats everything else I have tried)

[peterb]

Just won one of these in 9mm for three and a half bills on GunBroker. Who do we like for holsters? Pocket? Belt? Ankle?

I’ve been happy with my DSG for j-frame, would think LCR would be similar: https://darkstargear.com/product/lcr/

Aholster for a thin, rigid pocket holster : https://aholster.com/product/pocket-aholster/

The thicker soft pocket holsters don’t work as well for me, but might with different clothing/body shapes. Mika’s seem popular here: https://mikaspocketholsters.com/

[mtnbkr]

I’ve been happy with my DSG for j-frame, would think LCR would be similar: https://darkstargear.com/product/lcr/


I thought so as well, but found the Apollo for the LCR to be much less comfortable than the one for the J-frame. What has worked better *for me* is a High Noon Instinct Lite (picked up NIB cheap on ebay) with a DCC 1.75" #4 clip in place of the factory Pull-the-dot belt loop and strut. I added a small wedge too. I can wear it all day, while working in the yard or on the car, etc without problems.

Chris

[Dagga Boy]

I love my .327 LCR. I use an Apollo.
Grip-I shoot a lot of different revolvers so I use a thumb over thumb. My wife only shoots snubs, so she uses the C clamp. I like both. I do not teach or use a thumbs forward, I have seen way too many issues with what thumbs and cylinders interacting can do. Others think it’s the bees knees.....make your choices and do what makes you happy.

[Clusterfrack]

I want to like my Apollo for the LCR, but the very tall sight channel makes the holster wider than it needs to be. On my narrow waist, that’s not ideal.

[spinmove_]

I love my .327 LCR. I use an Apollo.
Grip-I shoot a lot of different revolvers so I use a thumb over thumb. My wife only shoots snubs, so she uses the C clamp. I like both. I do not teach or use a thumbs forward, I have seen way too many issues with what thumbs and cylinders interacting can do. Others think it’s the bees knees.....make your choices and do what makes you happy.

Are you running .327 Fed Mag in it or something else?

[mtnbkr]

I want to like my Apollo for the LCR, but the very tall sight channel makes the holster wider than it needs to be. On my narrow waist, that’s not ideal.

I think it was the sight channel that did it for me as well. Damn thing is tall enough for suppressor-height sights. :rolleyes:

Chris

[jetfire]

I want to like my Apollo for the LCR, but the very tall sight channel makes the holster wider than it needs to be. On my narrow waist, that’s not ideal.

How narrow is your waist? I'm 5'6 165 and the Apollo's not an issue for me. I'm just curious, I have no professional dog in this fight.

[Clusterfrack]

How narrow is your waist? I'm 5'6 165 and the Apollo's not an issue for me. I'm just curious, I have no professional dog in this fight.

My waist is 31". It's not a total dealbreaker but I don't understand why there's such a big sight channel. It pushes the grip out.

[SCCY Marshal]

The thicker soft pocket holsters don’t work as well for me, but might with different clothing/body shapes. Mika’s seem popular here: https://mikaspocketholsters.com/

Seconding Mika. Have my .22 LCR in one, right now. If choosing between round cut and square, round tends to fit most trouser pockets best so I'd start there. I personally own both cuts and almost always grab the round.

[UNM1136]

Seconding Mika. Have my .22 LCR in one, right now. If choosing between round cut and square, round tends to fit most trouser pockets best so I'd start there. I personally own both cuts and almost always grab the round.

REALLY wish their web site was a mite more informative....

pat

[Dagga Boy]

Are you running .327 Fed Mag in it or something else?

I went with the H&R Magnum load for what I am using it for.

[dustyvarmint]

New LCR owner here. I'm about 150 rounds in and trying to figure out POA/POI regulation. IIRC here and over in the ammo section there was talk that a 148 WC might regulate, but that didn't seem to work. The paper target is cast and powder coated 158 gr SWC with 2.8 gr Clay Dot. The cardboard target is 148 gr DEWC with 3.1 gr Titegroup (a Lyman recommended accuracy load). Both powder puff loads. Both groups at 7 yards.

I have not decided what carry load, yet, but was hoping for a good outcome with the DEWC and would then settle there off Doc JKR's recommendation.

Is the next step to go to the fiber optic sight?

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Happy shooting, Jerry

[SAWBONES]

New LCR owner here. I'm about 150 rounds in and trying to figure out POA/POI regulation. IIRC here and over in the ammo section there was talk that a 148 WC might regulate, but that didn't seem to work.
...

Is the next step to go to the fiber optic sight?



I have two .38 Special LCRs, both with the fiberoptic front sights, and both shoot POA = POI with 148gr wadcutters.

I'd actually hoped for typical snubby .38 Special POI/POA regulation, which IME with S&W snubs has seemed to usually be best with 158gr LSWCHP, but they (in the Remington version) shoot high and somewhat right in these LCRs.

Next tried Gold Dot short barrel 135gr+P JHP (which I'd hoped would be right on), but again, no go; shot to the right too.

My two LCR examples are right on with Precision Delta 148gr wadcutters.

(Dunno about any other wadcutter brands, haven't tried any others, and I have no affiliation or other association with Precision Delta, just read about them here.)

FWIW.

[TicTacticalTimmy]

In my .38 LCR with fiber front:

158gr swc shoot high
100gr frangible shoot way low
Aguila 130gr shoots just right
Wolf 130gr shoots about right, but had to beat the ejector rod to get casings out?


Defensive ammo:
Hornady 110, bith +p and standard, shoot pretty much right on
HST Micro 130gr shoots absolutely POI/POA driving the dot, and excellent accuracy without excessive recoil. My new carry load.

[SAWBONES]

In my .38 LCR with fiber front:


Hornady 110, both +p and standard, shoot pretty much right on.
HST Micro 130gr shoots absolutely POI/POA driving the dot, and excellent accuracy without excessive recoil.


Guess I'll have to try those.

[ekrauos]

Guess I'll have to try those.

What fiber sight?
Hiviz

Or

Wliams fire sight?

I have the Williams but have yet to try it.

[SAWBONES]

What fiber sight?


The Hi-Viz green.

[Clusterfrack]

Hipster day. Single speed & LCR 9.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200601/351542059a5c4616ca4f1540b9a5cd8e.jpg

[mtnbkr]

Hipster day. Single speed & LCR 9.


Which single speed? [/reformed singlespeed and fixie geek]

Chris

[Clusterfrack]

Which single speed? [/reformed singlespeed and fixie geek]

Well-used LeMond Fillmore with flip/chopped bars. I pretty much never use the fixie side of the wheel. Too many hills. We did a 20 mile rails-to-trails ride.

[mtnbkr]

Well-used LeMond Fillmore with flip/chopped bars. I pretty much never use the fixie side of the wheel. Too many hills. We did a 20 mile rails-to-trails ride.

Nice. A riding buddy hand a Fillmore. I had a generic Performance-branded chromoly fixie frame (SST something or other) I built up to be as simple as possible (front brake only, cowhorn bars, etc) and rode for a few years until I let myself get out of shape. Gearing was 46x17 IIRC. At my peak I did the Seagull Century on it. It was the rolling terrain of Eastern MD, but I still managed my fastest 100 miles ever at 4.5hrs. No way I could do that now.

I think the flywheel effect of a fixed drivetrain makes it easier to ride at speed for extended periods of time. I know my fixed rides tended to be faster than the same routes on a geared bike.

When I had a SS Mtb (Surly 1x1), I had a flipflop wheel with a fixie cog on the other side. Riding fixed offroad was a lot of fun on the more relaxed club rides. Log crossings weren't a problem as long as I saw them early enough to set up for them.

<Sigh> Now I want another fixed gear bike. :rolleyes:

Chris

[feudist]

Clusterfrack what\'s that holster?

[Clusterfrack]

Clusterfrack what\'s that holster?

JMCK IWB 3 with DCC Monoblock clip (https://www.jmcustomkydex.com/p/IWB3.html). It's really nice. So much better than what I'd been using, and for less money.

[Lex Luthier]

Hipster day. Single speed & LCR 9.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200601/351542059a5c4616ca4f1540b9a5cd8e.jpg

You jerk. Now I'm trying to identify that frame from the dropouts/rear forks.

Nice little carry rig, too.

[Clusterfrack]

You jerk. Now I'm trying to identify that frame from the dropouts/rear forks.

Nice little carry rig, too.

Yeah, I’ll own that.

LeMond Fillmore frame with a Surly Tuggnut
JMCK IWB 3

[Lex Luthier]

46 x 17 is more than I can comfortably handle at the moment. Too many beers per mile, clearly. I am a fan of the steel LeMonds...to my thinking, the best bikes made by Trek at that point.

If you were to compare the .38 LCRs vs the 9mms, are the 9s prone to sharper recoil, or is it a wash?

[Clusterfrack]

46 x 17 is more than I can comfortably handle at the moment. Too many beers per mile, clearly. I am a fan of the steel LeMonds...to my thinking, the best bikes made by Trek at that point.

If you were to compare the .38 LCRs vs the 9mms, are the 9s prone to sharper recoil, or is it a wash?

I've had it for maybe 10 years. It's got a lot of miles on it, including 3 Lucky Lab pub races, where I managed to hang with the lead group of gearheads. When I was still in riding shape.

I'm the last one to ask about LCRs or revolvers in general. I actually don't like them very much, but acknowledge that they have a valid place in the CCW toolbox. The 9mm is the only revolver I have. The recoil using Ranger 147 isn't bad--a lot less than a .357.

[Doc_Glock]

If you were to compare the .38 LCRs vs the 9mms, are the 9s prone to sharper recoil, or is it a wash?

I think the 9mm is harsher than the .38. Depends on load though
A strong defensive .38 load vs 9mm is a wash.

And my single speeds prefer G19s.

[Jason M]

So... Grabbed what must have been someones sock drawer LCR in 9mm. Didn't really want to deal with moon clips but the price was too good to say no. It is pretty obnoxious with 124gr ball. Much more so than .38spl in a steel frame J. My question to the LCR heads here is: Can I drop a .38 spl cylinder into the gun safely?

[23JAZ]

JMCK IWB 3 with DCC Monoblock clip (https://www.jmcustomkydex.com/p/IWB3.html). It's really nice. So much better than what I'd been using, and for less money.

That holster looks great. Love the extra tuck and the Monoblock. Are so on JMCK's quick ship list?

[Clusterfrack]

So... Grabbed what must have been someones sock drawer LCR in 9mm. Didn't really want to deal with moon clips but the price was too good to say no. It is pretty obnoxious with 124gr ball. Much more so than .38spl in a steel frame J. My question to the LCR heads here is: Can I drop a .38 spl cylinder into the gun safely?

I think the answer is no. Have you tried 147gr? Subsonic is so much better. Also, I found that the grip makes a difference. I like the Hogue Bantam.


That holster looks great. Love the extra tuck and the Monoblock. Are so on JMCK's quick ship list?

I don't think it's a quick ship option. It didn't take that long to ship though.

Mine was spec'ed to ride with "cylinder just under the belt line". It's very low profile, yet draws quickly. I like the monoblock clip for this gun because it's light enough to clip to the pants, and tighten the belt over it. The gun just disappears, even under a smedium t-shirt.

[mtnbkr]

My question to the LCR heads here is: Can I drop a .38 spl cylinder into the gun safely?


I think the answer is no. Have you tried 147gr? Subsonic is so much better.

Actually I think you can. IIRC, the 35cal cylinders for the LCR are the same length and all 5-shot, so it should drop in (manufacturing tolerances aside).

That said, 147gr subsonic should be pretty close to a +p 38 load, so I'd go that way.

Chris

[Jason M]

Thanks guys! I will give the 147 a go. That is actually the weight of our duty load. I am not ashamed to admit that I am a total recoil sissy. The 9mm in the little revolver feels sharper than .38. And this is a steel gun to steel gun comparison. The fact that Ruger puts the 9mm in steel is probably a clue.

[mtnbkr]

Thanks guys! I will give the 147 a go. That is actually the weight of our duty load. I am not ashamed to admit that I am a total recoil sissy. The 9mm in the little revolver feels sharper than .38. And this is a steel gun to steel gun comparison. The fact that Ruger puts the 9mm in steel is probably a clue.

Would you mind measuring the length of your 9mm cylinder? While I'm certain I read they were all the same length, I cannot find that confirmation anywhere. I have a 38spec LCR and can measure mine.

FWIW, LCR 38 cylinders (many with crane assemblies) are available on eBay, so if they do match, you could attempt the swap yourself, just watch clearances, alignment, and indexing.

Chris

[Thy.Will.Be.Done]

Actually I think you can. IIRC, the 35cal cylinders for the LCR are the same length and all 5-shot, so it should drop in (manufacturing tolerances aside).

That said, 147gr subsonic should be pretty close to a +p 38 load, so I'd go that way.

Chris

Bullets are different diameter's, I would NOT advise such a thing to anybody personally.

[mtnbkr]

Bullets are different diameter's, I would NOT advise such a thing to anybody personally.

.355 vs .357-.358 depending on if it's jacketed or lead. The bullets will swage down assuming the Ruger even bothers to use different barrels. It's not unusual for a manufacturer to use the same barrel between their 9mm and 38/357 guns (and 22lr/22mag). The oft-suggested Federal match wadcutter would be perfectly safe being both low pressure and soft lead.

ETA: You can see nearly that much variation in 38 specials of different vintages. Slugging the barrel would cover off any concerns.

Chris

[BehindBlueI's]

So... Grabbed what must have been someones sock drawer LCR in 9mm. Didn't really want to deal with moon clips but the price was too good to say no. It is pretty obnoxious with 124gr ball. Much more so than .38spl in a steel frame J. My question to the LCR heads here is: Can I drop a .38 spl cylinder into the gun safely?

Could you not find someone with a .38 that's interested in trading at less then the cost of a cylinder swap? Just curious as I figured since the 9mm is the new hotness and the .38 is the oldest model maybe that'd be an option. Unless you want the ability to swap back and forth, in which case this post wasn't worth your time to read.

[Screwball]

Bullets are different diameter's, I would NOT advise such a thing to anybody personally.

My 9mm converted 642-1 shoots very well... so barrel/bullet match isn’t a huge deal. Hell, Lee Harvey Oswald managed to use a .38 S&W which was rechambered for .38 Special to kill a Dallas patrol officer... that is 0.361” barrel with a 0.357” bullet.

My issue with the 9mm LCR is the weight... since it is the stainless frame. I felt more comfortable rechambering my Airweight than rechambering a .38 LCR. I’m not that familiar with the LCR’s design to say the alloy .38 setup is good to go with 9mm. At least there was a 942 at one point. [emoji6]

[jandbj]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ruger-LCR-38-Special-Cylinder-38-P-5-Shot-Blackened-Tone/202675962116?hash=item2f306dc104:g:63gAAOSwmuNc1ij K
So... Grabbed what must have been someones sock drawer LCR in 9mm. Didn't really want to deal with moon clips but the price was too good to say no. It is pretty obnoxious with 124gr ball. Much more so than .38spl in a steel frame J. My question to the LCR heads here is: Can I drop a .38 spl cylinder into the gun safely?

[Jason M]

Could you not find someone with a .38 that's interested in trading at less then the cost of a cylinder swap? Just curious as I figured since the 9mm is the new hotness and the .38 is the oldest model maybe that'd be an option. Unless you want the ability to swap back and forth, in which case this post wasn't worth your time to read.

Honestly I hadn't considered that. I have no particular attachment to this gun nor the idea of having a dual caliber LCR. It is certainly an option. Know anybody? LOL. The Ebay option posted by JandBJ is certainly a low cost experiment waiting to happen.

[Gun Mutt]

Have you tried 147gr? Subsonic is so much better.

I really want to try some 147 HST through a 9mm LCR. The LGS that I pass on the way home has an indoor range and they've got standing orders to call me to come in for a test fire if they ever take one in trade.

[Clusterfrack]

I really want to try some 147 HST through a 9mm LCR. The LGS that I pass on the way home has an indoor range and they've got standing orders to call me to come in for a test fire if they ever take one in trade.

I use HST 147 for all my carry autos. But, I now use Win Ranger 147 for the LCR9 because this load seems to have stronger bullet retention. I measured recoil-induced bullet pull in a variety of loads after 8 shots, and the Ranger had the smallest amount. HST wasn't close to causing a problem either, but I went with the Rangers for this reason.

[Buckshot]

My 9mm converted 642-1 shoots very well... so barrel/bullet match isn’t a huge deal. Hell, Lee Harvey Oswald managed to use a .38 S&W which was rechambered for .38 Special to kill a Dallas patrol officer... that is 0.361” barrel with a 0.357” bullet.

My issue with the 9mm LCR is the weight... since it is the stainless frame. I felt more comfortable rechambering my Airweight than rechambering a .38 LCR. I’m not that familiar with the LCR’s design to say the alloy .38 setup is good to go with 9mm. At least there was a 942 at one point. [emoji6]

Uh, there was exactly ONE 942 if I remember correctly. I'd definitely consider a 9mm converted airweight to be a weapon of last resort. Frame stretch might be measurable at the end of each box of ammo! I think the alloy LCR's design might handle it better.

[Screwball]

Uh, there was exactly ONE 942 if I remember correctly. I'd definitely consider a 9mm converted airweight to be a weapon of last resort. Frame stretch might be measurable at the end of each box of ammo! I think the alloy LCR's design might handle it better.

Really? My 9mm 642-1 has quite a few rounds down range... with zero issues (and I carry it almost everyday I’m not working). Handful of people have similar guns, both here and on S&W Forum. But hey, what would I know? Not like I’ve had it running in this configuration for the past five years.

J-frames are traditional framed revolvers. The LCR... alloy upper (or stainless), with a polymer lower.

[Jason M]

I shot the 9mm LCR with some 147gr loads and there was some reduction in felt recoil. The .38, in my hands, is more pleasant to shoot.

[Clusterfrack]

I did some on the clock dryfire with the LCR 9mm. My timer picks up the hammer drop, so the times are real.

Strong hand only AIWB draw inside the shirt to thumb-pec index shot: 0.53s. I’m really warming to the snubby for defensive applications.

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[RJ]

Clusterfrack Assume I’ve been living under a rock; what is the clip on that holster?

PS love my LCR too. :)

[Clusterfrack]

Clusterfrack Assume I’ve been living under a rock; what is the clip on that holster?

PS love my LCR too. :)

JM Custom IWB 3 with a DCC Monoblock clip.

[kjr_29]

JM Custom IWB 3 with a DCC Monoblock clip.

Curious, why that holster over the AIWB or 2.0/2.5? I need one for my newly acquired LCR and trying to sort out which to get. I’ve have three JMCK for other models, but all are 2.0s.


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[Clusterfrack]

Curious, why that holster over the AIWB or 2.0/2.5? I need one for my newly acquired LCR and trying to sort out which to get. I’ve have three JMCK for other models, but all are 2.0s.


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That’s what Tony Mayer recommended. The 2.0 and 2.5 are unnecessarily big for the small grip of a LCR.

[kjr_29]

That’s what @tony meyer recommended. The 2.0 and 2.5 are unnecessarily big for the small grip of a LCR.

10-4, the man does know his holsters. Few bucks cheaper and has the awesome mono lock clip.


If it doesn’t float my boat, I can go for the wingclaw versions. It’s not like we all don’t have a drawer of holsters gained from all the experimenting to find the Goldilocks version for our style of carry.


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[Gun Mutt]

I don't think it's a quick ship option. It didn't take that long to ship though.

Mine was spec'ed to ride with "cylinder just under the belt line". It's very low profile, yet draws quickly. I like the monoblock clip for this gun because it's light enough to clip to the pants, and tighten the belt over it. The gun just disappears, even under a smedium t-shirt.


JM Custom IWB 3 with a DCC Monoblock clip.

Tony Mayer, do you still have CF's specs on how he ordered his holster? I'm really thinking I need one just like it.

[Totem Polar]

Tony Mayer, do you still have CF's specs on how he ordered his holster? I'm really thinking I need one just like it.

So long as we are on the topic...

[Gun Mutt]

Clusterfrack; couple questions about the holster.

No wedge or pad needed, correct? The LCR is so light, I'd think that once the cylinder was under the belt, a wedge would be unnecessary.

And have you ever tried it in the IWB position? Just curious.

I recently torqued my back (while working out...you know, to prevent injuries as I age:rolleyes:) and decided to pop the nearly useless glue on Clipdraw off my LCR to holster it AIWB. It didn't take long for me to be reminded that my current LCR kydex is actually much less comfortable than a 26 or 19 in one of Tony's rigs.

[Clusterfrack]

I use a very small pillow. Otherwise, the gun can tip around the belt with some pants.

Yes, I've used it at 3:30 with no issues at all.


Clusterfrack; couple questions about the holster.

No wedge or pad needed, correct? The LCR is so light, I'd think that once the cylinder was under the belt, a wedge would be unnecessary.

And have you ever tried it in the IWB position? Just curious.

I recently torqued my back (while working out...you know, to prevent injuries as I age:rolleyes:) and decided to pop the nearly useless glue on Clipdraw off my LCR to holster it AIWB. It didn't take long for me to be reminded that my current LCR kydex is actually much less comfortable than a 26 or 19 in one of Tony's rigs.

[Tony Mayer]

Tony Mayer, do you still have CF's specs on how he ordered his holster? I'm really thinking I need one just like it.
Gun Mutt, pm me his name and I can look it up.

[Clusterfrack]

Gun Mutt, pm me his name and I can look it up.

PM inbound.

[Gun Mutt]

And just like that, the PF-CF model was born!

[Totem Polar]

Gun Mutt, pm me his name and I can look it up.

When you get the info together, post back. I’m in for one just like CF’s. P-F orange not necessary, but could be cool.
:cool:

[RJ]

I can't recall if this question was addressed up thread, and I apologize if so: I wanted to ask regarding the action (specifically, the pull weight) of the LCR. Mine in particular. When I bought it, I really liked the trigger action, as compared to a number of the (new) j-frames I was comparing it to (bear in mind I am not/nor will probably be a revolver guy).

My LCR is smooth, but with respect to the weight of the trigger, I have always felt it was pretty heavy. My gun now has 485 rounds of Federal GMM or S&B 148 gr wadcutter since I bought it in July 2019. I have a rudimentary spring-type pull gauge, and it only goes to 8 lb f or so, and fully extends when I try to measure the pull weight of my LCR.

While I realize I should just "shoot it more", I have a couple questions on the action:

1) With regard to the trigger pull weight, is it possible to lighten it slightly by burnishing or polishing any internal surfaces?

2) I have not stripped the LCR down besides what is allowed in the manual for lubrication. But is it totally impossible to get it apart and put it back together? I know it's not going to be caveman easy like a Glock, but I was wondering whether this is a Really Bad Idea, or one of those "not too bad if you take your time" kind of things.

Inputs appreciated.

[JCN]

RJ

My LCR9
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Similar to my MP340 with Apex kit
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But better than the unmodified J-frame weight which is over 12 pounds
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That’s as high as the scale goes.

Ballistically and shootabilty wise the LCR9 is amazing. Clusterfrack has good judgement!

It makes velocities higher than a P365 and is still rapidly shootable.

It punches way above its weight and does as well as 357 magnum out of a J frame but waaaaaay more shootable.

[Clusterfrack]

Ballistically and shootabilty wise the LCR9 is amazing. Clusterfrack has good judgement!


I agree with the first statement. The 2nd is highly debatable.

I'll measure my LCR pull weight and post it shortly. But, I don't feel the need to fiddle with it.

PS. My understanding is that all Rugers are easy to disassemble.

[Crazy Dane]

I can't recall if this question was addressed up thread, and I apologize if so: I wanted to ask regarding the action (specifically, the pull weight) of the LCR. Mine in particular. When I bought it, I really liked the trigger action, as compared to a number of the (new) j-frames I was comparing it to (bear in mind I am not/nor will probably be a revolver guy).

My LCR is smooth, but with respect to the weight of the trigger, I have always felt it was pretty heavy. My gun now has 485 rounds of Federal GMM or S&B 148 gr wadcutter since I bought it in July 2019. I have a rudimentary spring-type pull gauge, and it only goes to 8 lb f or so, and fully extends when I try to measure the pull weight of my LCR.

While I realize I should just "shoot it more", I have a couple questions on the action:

1) With regard to the trigger pull weight, is it possible to lighten it slightly by burnishing or polishing any internal surfaces?

2) I have not stripped the LCR down besides what is allowed in the manual for lubrication. But is it totally impossible to get it apart and put it back together? I know it's not going to be caveman easy like a Glock, but I was wondering whether this is a Really Bad Idea, or one of those "not too bad if you take your time" kind of things.

Inputs appreciated.


My 9mm lcrx is 9.5 to 10 pounds double and a very consistent 4lbs 10oz single. I have no idea on round count but it is easily over 500 with 10 times as many dry fires. I have not done a detail strip and really haven't felt the need.

[JCN]

I just realized the LCR9 front sight insert has gone missing...

Ordered a HiVis replacement. Hope it’s the correct height!

Anyone do a replacement yet? I didn’t read the 38 pages.

[Whirlwind06]

I just realized the LCR9 front sight insert has gone missing...

Ordered a HiVis replacement. Hope it’s the correct height!

Anyone do a replacement yet? I didn’t read the 38 pages.

If I remember correctly from Ruger's website, the Hi-Viz is only for the .38 and .357 LCR(x). On the 9mm and .22s will lower the POI.

I put a Hi-Viz on my LCRX .22 LR, but not much of a problem with an adjustable rear.

[Crazy Dane]

I just realized the LCR9 front sight insert has gone missing...

Ordered a HiVis replacement. Hope it’s the correct height!

Anyone do a replacement yet? I didn’t read the 38 pages.


Mine came off too. I don't think Ruger uses paint on the LCR sights, if they do it doesn't bond well.


XS Sight Systems, Inc. - Products - .22 LR, .22 WMR, .327 Fed Mag, & 9mm (https://www.xssights.com/Ruger_LCR_22LR_Sight_Selection_pr-13161.aspx)


I got one in orange but haven't installed it. I'm not sure that I need to after I painted the factory. SALON PERFECT NAIL LACQUER - TRAFFIC CONE - Walmart.com - Walmart.com (https://www.walmart.com/ip/SALON-PERFECT-NAIL-LACQUER-TRAFFIC-CONE/24511918)

[Clusterfrack]

I'll measure my LCR pull weight and post it shortly. But, I don't feel the need to fiddle with it.


Around 9.5 lbs.

[JCN]

I got one in orange but haven't installed it. I'm not sure that I need to after I painted the factory. SALON PERFECT NAIL LACQUER - TRAFFIC CONE - Walmart.com - Walmart.com (https://www.walmart.com/ip/SALON-PERFECT-NAIL-LACQUER-TRAFFIC-CONE/24511918)

Thank you for the idea!

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I used some leftover rustoleum. Will clean it up later after it dries.

[JCN]

Does anyone carry extra loaded moon clips when they carry their LCR9 Clusterfrack

Where do you carry them?

I’m thinking of seeing if I can do a revolver FAST with the LCR9 but trying to think of reload options that won’t be glacial.

[03RN]

Does anyone carry extra loaded moon clips when they carry their LCR9 Clusterfrack

Where do you carry them?

I’m thinking of seeing if I can do a revolver FAST with the LCR9 but trying to think of reload options that won’t be glacial.
Would they fit in a safariland cd-2?

[JCN]

Okay, have been kind of looking for 22LR versions of handguns I like.

Couldn’t find the 8 shot LCR22 snubbie in stock.

But did find a 3” LCR22LR and a 1.875” LCR22WMR both in stock.

So I bought both thinking I could probably mix and match cylinders like I can on my NAA Minis.

I have plenty of 22LR and WMR ammo around.



Would they fit in a safariland cd-2?

They might! I tried them out in one of my IDPA style moon clip holders and they fit!

[Totem Polar]

Does anyone carry extra loaded moon clips when they carry their LCR9 Clusterfrack

Where do you carry them?

I’m thinking of seeing if I can do a revolver FAST with the LCR9 but trying to think of reload options that won’t be glacial.

If you can find an LCR reload that isn’t glacial, you will be a better man than I.
:cool:

[Clusterfrack]

Does anyone carry extra loaded moon clips when they carry their LCR9 Clusterfrack

Where do you carry them?

I’m thinking of seeing if I can do a revolver FAST with the LCR9 but trying to think of reload options that won’t be glacial.

I just put 5 rounds on a strip. Full moonclips are annoying in a pocket.

If I need more than 10 rounds, I guess I’m screwed.

[Crazy Dane]

Does anyone carry extra loaded moon clips when they carry their LCR9 @Clusterfrack (https://pistol-forum.com/member.php?u=7807)

Where do you carry them?

I’m thinking of seeing if I can do a revolver FAST with the LCR9 but trying to think of reload options that won’t be glacial.

My LCR is my sweatpants gun or a BUG to my P365 or 1911 (for now) and I normally don't carry extra moons. If I get that far to where I'm reloading the LCR It has already been a bad day. There are times I do carry it as primary and I do carry extra ammo, 2 clips married together, loose in my pocket. I do keep extras in pill bottles stashed in a few places.

Look at the PMC here Del Fatti Leather - Belts, Ammo Carriers and Pocket Holsters (http://delfatti.com/2011%20Belts,Accessories.html)


I had one of the PMCs it was nice and worked well but it was no faster or easier than 2 moons married. It does fit into speed loader pouches but it still wont be fast.

[RJ]

2) I have not stripped the LCR down besides what is allowed in the manual for lubrication. But is it totally impossible to get it apart and put it back together? I know it's not going to be caveman easy like a Glock, but I was wondering whether this is a Really Bad Idea, or one of those "not too bad if you take your time" kind of things.

Inputs appreciated.

I was cruising around YT last night and ran across this video. It looks like more than I want to bite off, but in the interests of adding information to anyone who wants to take the gun apart, here it is:


https://youtu.be/dJ72bId6znI

I think I'm going to leave it alone and just shoot/dry practice with it more. I like it a lot, I just wish it was a mite less trigger weight. I suppose the trade off is reliable ignition when it counts, which is probably a good thing.

[JCN]

If you can find an LCR reload that isn’t glacial, you will be a better man than I.
:cool:

Totem Polar
Clusterfrack


https://youtu.be/aR5b1NmY7yU

From IDPA type moon holder. Theoretically could be concealed inside something, carried IWB or have an outside cover.
The dry practice highlights how fast a pocket draw can be when the grip is already established while concealed.

I think I might add this to my dry fire regimen and see if I can do it live fire.

Seems like plenty of time to get it done.

[newyork]

That rocks

[Lex Luthier]

Really impressive.

[JCN]

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I am thinking I’ll move the 8-shot 22LR cylinder to the 2” barrel frame....

[Phaedrus]

I have an LCRx 3" in .38 Special. Normally I wouldn't rely on it for CCW but I absolutely rekt my right shoulder in early March and have had to improvise. Being extremely right handed has made this a challenge. Right now the only LH holster is a belly band sourced from Amazon just for this purpose (and even putting it on is a challenge with my right arm immobilized in a special sling). The LCRx 3" is easy to shoot if not particularly potent. I kind of wish I had the same gun but in .327 Federal, or maybe .22 Mag., mostly for a bit more capacity.

[SCCY Marshal]

...if not particularly potent...

We can fix that with something in stock right now:

https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=108

"1,143 fps (458 ft. lbs.) -- Ruger SP101, 3-inch"

[Phaedrus]

We can fix that with something in stock right now:

https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=108

"1,143 fps (458 ft. lbs.) -- Ruger SP101, 3-inch"

That's actually what I carry, that and some Underwood. It's a handful to shoot out of a wheel gun so light! Realistically the low capacity is worse than the ballistics and I can't manage the DA pull as well shooting weak hand vs shooting my Beretta Nano or HK VP9. Luckily I have always trained a bit to use just my left but I never got very close to the top of the mountain. DA with my left I'm limited to maybe 20' tops.

[JCN]

Phaedrus

Do you have any other small guns you could pull into duty?
Could you do a New York reload and carry two?

Opportunity to buy a new revolver like a 7 shot 686+?

[Phaedrus]

I have a Beretta Nano that I sometimes carry but I'd be leery of using the belly band. I ordered a cheap LH kydex rig ($30, didn't want to spend a ton for a holster I only need temporarily) but it wound up being so crappy as to be unusable. I bough about $3k in new guns right before I got injured because of course I did!:rolleyes: Hate to blow any more $ at least til i'm of work comp and can work again. Lastly I'm not sure how to carry a heavier gun as it's extraordinarily difficult to cinch down a gun belt (or put on my socks, eat with a spoon, put on my pants, etc.). I've been living in seats and track pants for two months.:eek:

Mostly I have full sized HK service-type guns and really nice RH holsters.:rolleyes:

[JCN]

Piggybacking on the previous discussion, here is some information from a test I did a few years ago.

For 9mm I used 135gr Federal TacBond compared to 135gr short barrel 357 magnum Gold Dot.

Clusterfrack

Even though the P365 and LCR9 velocities were identical, the LCR9 expansion and penetration was much different.

I’m not sure if it was forcing cone contact or destabilized barrel? But regardless, it’s another reason to actually test your ammo in your gun.

Something that may work fine in a semi, might not work the same in a revolver despite same velocities.

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[PNWTO]

Well I guess I need to start setting in-stock alerts for the 9mm LCR. Outside of this forum I have seen Ed Calderon’s appreciation for the 9mm and .22 models.

My current “@jetfire special” 3” .38 LCRx has been fantastic and if I could procure more Lehigh pills would probably edge out my G19 for most daily things. Its already spent some time in the backcountry and the weight saving is really evident.

[Clusterfrack]

Kusiak Outsider OWB
https://kusiakleather.com/collections/owb-holsters

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[JCN]

I just put 5 rounds on a strip. Full moonclips are annoying in a pocket.

If I need more than 10 rounds, I guess I’m screwed.


Kusiak Outsider OWB
https://kusiakleather.com/collections/owb-holsters

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Did you start carrying moon clip reload instead of strip? Or is that the load instead of the reload?

[Clusterfrack]

Did you start carrying moon clip reload instead of strip? Or is that the load instead of the reload?

It’s the load. Still breaking the holster in. Man, that thing is stiff. I don’t know if OWB will be a good option , but I wanted to try it.

[Clusterfrack]

LCR 9 pocket carry day. New way of stowing the reload in the flap of a phone pocket in my shorts.

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[WDR]

LCR 9 pocket carry day. New way of stowing the reload in the flap of a phone pocket in my shorts.

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Not judging. If it works, it works. I'd be worried about snagging the outboard rounds on something and bending the clip. Looks like the flap/velcro may cover them enough so that isn't a worry. Shorter 9mm rounds probably help.

I never could bring myself to carry a moon clipped reload for my clip cut 442 ... those things are so thin, I don't trust them without some sort of carrier, and I never found one worth a crap. Might as well carry a Comp-I at that point, so that is what I do ( or a speed strip, or both). I do however, use a clip for the first 5 rounds in the gun.

[JCN]

Not judging. If it works, it works. I'd be worried about snagging the outboard rounds on something and bending the clip. Looks like the flap/velcro may cover them enough so that isn't a worry. Shorter 9mm rounds probably help.

I never could bring myself to carry a moon clipped reload for my clip cut 442 ... those things are so thin, I don't trust them without some sort of carrier, and I never found one worth a crap. Might as well carry a Comp-I at that point, so that is what I do ( or a speed strip, or both). I do however, use a clip for the first 5 rounds in the gun.

I did this with a pill bottle:

https://youtu.be/VvuDtlM72ww

[UNM1136]

The Ruger moon clip carriers remind me of the low profile speed loader carriers some of the richer guys used back in 92-94 when I carried a revolver. I have no problem with the idea, and it works similar to @Clusterfrak 's phone pocket setup, but on (a little above, actually), stays in place, and protects the clip.

pat

[03RN]

I should probably buy one clip to try but a cd-2 might work. 5rd one may be to small though

[Clusterfrack]

I tried the Kusiak for casual carry. It’s comfortable, but the shape is problematic. Why is there a hammer guard for a LCR? It prints horribly.

I’m thinking about cutting it off, but don’t know if that’s a good idea. I don’t have experience with leather holsters.

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Kusiak Outsider OWB
https://kusiakleather.com/collections/owb-holsters

[UNK]

Moon clip holder. A holster has a pocket speedloader holder that is low cut enough on the side the moon clip would probably be exposed.
https://aholster.com/product/the-aholster-bactrian/

[Crazy Dane]

Revolver Guy posted a new article today on a nifty moon carrier, Jeffrey Custom Leather Moon Pocket - RevolverGuy.Com (https://revolverguy.com/jeffrey-custom-leather-moon-pocket/#more-9554)

Unlike Revolver Guy, I don't find that moon clips from Speed Beez or TK Customs to be that fragile. I keep 2 moons married together in my right front pocket. I only have 3 factory Ruger clips and I have only bent one of them which was easily straightened. My LCR9 has become my beat around the house gun along with a bug to my P365.

[Gun Mutt]

As soon as my new house purchase is completed, I'll have a little money to spend and I'm thinking I'd be better served by a centerfire LCR in .327 or 9mm that will see carry for snubbie roles, rather than an SA-35 that will just look really, really cool setting on my coffee table of an evening.

9mm would get fed from the case of 147gr HST I've already got and the moon clips would be pretty sweet admin loading and unloading.

.327 would give me a 6th round and lower recoil running .32 Longs or H&R magnums.

I've located a NIB .327 in stock, so I'm kind of leaning that way, but if someone were to offer me a sweet deal on a 9mm they never warmed up to, I'd have a hard time saying no...I'm looking at you, Jason M.

Anyone have additional thoughts to add?

[Guerrero]

As soon as my new house purchase is completed, I'll have a little money to spend and I'm thinking it'd be better served by a centerfire LCR in .327 or 9mm that will see carry for snubbie roles, rather than an SA-35 that will just look really, really cool setting on my coffee table of an evening.

9mm would get fed from the case of 147gr HST I've already got and the moon clips would be pretty sweet admin loading and unloading.

.327 would give me a 6th round and lower recoil running .32 Longs or H&R magnums.

I've located a NIB .327 in stock, so I'm kind of leaning that way, but if someone were to offer me a sweet deal on a 9mm they never warmed up to, I'd have a hard time saying no...I'm looking at you, Jason M.

Anyone have additional thoughts to add?

Dagga Boy (Darryl Bolke (https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=2069308006555036&id=1199287713557074&__tn__=K-R)), jetfire, and Cecil Burch are all running .327 LCR's, which is pretty high praise.

ETA: I've been seriously thinking about getting one, too.

[Gun Mutt]

Dagga Boy (Darryl Bolke (https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=2069308006555036&id=1199287713557074&__tn__=K-R)), jetfire, and Cecil Burch are all running .327 LCR's, which is pretty high praise.

If not for P-F, a .32 wouldn't have even been on my radar.

if not for the supply chain fiasco, the 9mm wouldn't even be a consideration.

[Elwin]

I'm not a revolver nerd, but after years of searching I finally have my answer for all my small gun needs in a .38 LCR.

If I was less focused on maximizing weight savings and could therefore handle the magnum frame guns for my uses (my .38 is currently DCC-clipped to my suit slacks and hiding under a tailored vest), I'd absolutely go with either a .327 for the extra round or a 9mm for the ammo commonality with other guns. So I'd say you're on the right track. I just don't know which of those advantages is more worthwhile. I absolutely hate complicating my gear/ammo/etc. inventory requirements so I'd probably lean 9mm, but that's me. Having a 9 may also mean you're likely practice with it more, since finding the .32s can be a pain.

For what it's worth, I remember an Ayoob review opining that with the extra weight from using steel instead of aluminum, the 9mm LCR actually had less recoil than the .38 version.

[Gun Mutt]

I've been wanting to pick up a .327 for a couple of years now. On the plus side, we got out of Michigan before the Covid Curtain came down via Commandant Whitmer, but we were only back in Indy for a couple of months before everything gun related went coocoo for Coco Puffs.

Whether .32 or 9mm, it'll see more dryfire than anything else as my .22 LCR is pretty much my favorite training tool of all time. When you're doing quality work with that heavy trigger, everything else is a breeze. I popped into the LGS at lunch today and got to dryfire one in 38spcl, wonderfully smooth triggers on the centerfire models. If I wasn't set on a hipster caliber, I'd have put it on layaway right then. (Prolly the only time DB & Cecil will be painted with the hipster brush.)

[Gun Mutt]

I couldn't stand the thought of it getting bought out from under me, NIB .327 is paid for and en route to my FFL.

PM with links sent to Tony Mayer for to get my CFP-F holster order placed.


When you get the info together, post back. I’m in for one just like CF’s. P-F orange not necessary, but could be cool.
:cool:

Now to find some ammo and speed strips.

[Guerrero]

I couldn't stand the thought of it getting bought out from under me, NIB .327 is paid for and en route to my FFL.

PM with links sent to Tony Mayer for to get my CFP-F holster order placed.



Now to find some ammo and speed strips.

https://www.ammunitiontogo.com/index.php/cName/32-sw-long-wadcutter

https://www.luckygunner.com/fiocchi-32s-w-long-ammo-for-sale-32swlong100lwcfiocchi-50


Can you tell I've been stalking this?

[Jason M]

As soon as my new house purchase is completed, I'll have a little money to spend and I'm thinking I'd be better served by a centerfire LCR in .327 or 9mm that will see carry for snubbie roles, rather than an SA-35 that will just look really, really cool setting on my coffee table of an evening.

9mm would get fed from the case of 147gr HST I've already got and the moon clips would be pretty sweet admin loading and unloading.

.327 would give me a 6th round and lower recoil running .32 Longs or H&R magnums.

I've located a NIB .327 in stock, so I'm kind of leaning that way, but if someone were to offer me a sweet deal on a 9mm they never warmed up to, I'd have a hard time saying no...I'm looking at you, Jason M.

Anyone have additional thoughts to add?

I'm sorry to report that my 9mm LCR went to the dealer some time ago. The .327 versions look really slick but... I still prefer the S&W J frames. Also, PA has a .38 special or .380 acp minimum for state qualifications for us flatfoots. The .327 would not be able to be used in the BUG role here.