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MGW
11-19-2021, 07:05 AM
I really want anLCR in 327 but the ammo costs are going to keep me away from it. 9mm or most likely 38 are where I’ll end up.

On another note, did Ruger do a price increase on LCR’s? They’re a lot more expensive than I remember.

OlongJohnson
11-19-2021, 08:25 AM
On another note, did Ruger do a price increase on LCR’s? They’re a lot more expensive than I remember.

I suspect it's just retailers charging closer to MSRP.

Guerrero
11-19-2021, 09:44 AM
I really want an LCR in 327 but the ammo costs are going to keep me away from it. 9mm or most likely 38 are where I’ll end up.

Have you seen .38 prices lately? Especially .38 wadcutter, if you can even find it? I can understand the 9mm angle, but also remember that you have *four* ammo/caliber options with the .327.

It's a balancing act, and you get an extra round.

Glenn E. Meyer
11-19-2021, 10:01 AM
The local Cabelas in Erie County has had a 327 LCR in the case for $609 for quite a few months. I waver on it but I have a 432 and need the bucks for other things. Sigh. My thoughts, which I said elsewhere, is that firing full bore 327 in the gun doesn't appeal to me for EDC. I do that in my SW 632 and they are rather BOOM, FLASH and some real recoil. It's fun but 32 HR works and I have that.

Gun Mutt
11-20-2021, 08:32 AM
I've found .32H&R mag 85gr JHP from both Black Hills and Federal at pretty much $1/round wherever I look...any reason to choose one over the other?

jh9
11-20-2021, 08:54 AM
I've found .32H&R mag 85gr JHP from both Black Hills and Federal at pretty much $1/round wherever I look...any reason to choose one over the other?

If these gel tests are done correctly and reported accurately, the Federal load won't expand through heavy clothing and the Black Hills load will.

https://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2019/5/30/the-underappreciated-32-magnums/

Of course, Federal has probably used the same bullet since the 70s (or whenever) since they presumably make it. And Black Hills could potentially have changed which bullet vendor they use since those tests were conducted... but absent any other info might as well go with the Black Hills load.

Other people can comment better re: cavitation but at .36-37" expanded it looks like the .32 magnum gives you roughly .38 wadcutter terminal ballistics with a sixth shot and maybe less recoil.

Navin Johnson
11-20-2021, 11:03 AM
Remember in general terms a wad cutter cuts a full diameter hole all the way.

Due to tissue elasticity expanded hollow points with their somewhat rounded frontal area give about a 70% of diameter crush cavity.

Specific or individual brands and styles of expanding projectiles obviously may vary.

parishioner
11-20-2021, 11:08 AM
I'm not a revolver nerd, but after years of searching I finally have my answer for all my small gun needs in a .38 LCR.

If I was less focused on maximizing weight savings and could therefore handle the magnum frame guns for my uses (my .38 is currently DCC-clipped to my suit slacks and hiding under a tailored vest), I'd absolutely go with either a .327 for the extra round or a 9mm for the ammo commonality with other guns. So I'd say you're on the right track. I just don't know which of those advantages is more worthwhile. I absolutely hate complicating my gear/ammo/etc. inventory requirements so I'd probably lean 9mm, but that's me. Having a 9 may also mean you're likely practice with it more, since finding the .32s can be a pain.

For what it's worth, I remember an Ayoob review opining that with the extra weight from using steel instead of aluminum, the 9mm LCR actually had less recoil than the .38 version.

I had similar thoughts as well and have a .38 LCR incoming. The high praises for .327 from the resident revolver cadre was difficult to ignore but 17oz is approaching G43/P365 weights and for me, I'd just as soon carry that. I wanted a lightweight/no excuse/rule 1/around the house/pajama gun and the lighter .38 won the day. It will be loaded with 148gr FGMM wadcutters.

I still want a .327 though of course :cool:

Totem Polar
11-20-2021, 02:21 PM
I had similar thoughts as well and have a .38 LCR incoming. The high praises for .327 from the resident revolver cadre was difficult to ignore but 17oz is approaching G43/P365 weights and for me, I'd just as soon carry that. I wanted a lightweight/no excuse/rule 1/around the house/pajama gun and the lighter .38 won the day. It will be loaded with 148gr FGMM wadcutters.

I still want a .327 though of course :cool:


I’m with you. The whole raison d’etre of the LCR is 1) trigger, and 2) 13.5 oz. It’s the poor man’s 340PD (albeit with better sight options, and a better trigger). If I wanted a heavier shooter, well, I’d just grab one of the myriad steel J or K frames already sitting on the safe shelf instead.

JCN
11-20-2021, 04:09 PM
I’m with you. The whole raison d’etre of the LCR is 1) trigger, and 2) 13.5 oz. It’s the poor man’s 340PD (albeit with better sight options, and a better trigger). If I wanted a heavier shooter, well, I’d just grab one of the myriad steel J or K frames already sitting on the safe shelf instead.

I have a 340PD, the Taurus M380 (380ACP), LCR9…

I just ordered a Taurus UltraLite 38 special with bobbed hammer. It’s 15 ounces… but it’s a SIX shot.

Will test it out. But I like my M380 enough that I’d like to try it.

UNK
11-20-2021, 04:35 PM
Dagga Boy (Darryl Bolke (https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=2069308006555036&id=1199287713557074&__tn__=K-R)), jetfire, and Cecil Burch are all running .327 LCR's, which is pretty high praise.

ETA: I've been seriously thinking about getting one, too.

The last time I talked to Cecil he wasnt running 327mag as his defensive round for carry.

BN
11-20-2021, 08:58 PM
PF enabling has occurred. I just ordered a 9mm LCR. :)

john c
11-20-2021, 10:52 PM
The local Cabelas in Erie County has had a 327 LCR in the case for $609 for quite a few months. I waver on it but I have a 432 and need the bucks for other things. Sigh. My thoughts, which I said elsewhere, is that firing full bore 327 in the gun doesn't appeal to me for EDC. I do that in my SW 632 and they are rather BOOM, FLASH and some real recoil. It's fun but 32 HR works and I have that.

Sell your 432 for $1000+ and buy the LCR. That solves both the lack of an LCR and money for other things problems. [emoji3]


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TheNewbie
11-20-2021, 11:12 PM
I have a 340PD, the Taurus M380 (380ACP), LCR9…

I just ordered a Taurus UltraLite 38 special with bobbed hammer. It’s 15 ounces… but it’s a SIX shot.

Will test it out. But I like my M380 enough that I’d like to try it.


In my quest for a lightweight DAO bobbed/spurless hammer revolver, the 856 ultralight might be the route I should go. I actually pocket carry an 856 often, but the 22 oz version.

When you get it, will you compare it to the LCR size wise?

JCN
11-21-2021, 05:29 AM
In my quest for a lightweight DAO bobbed/spurless hammer revolver, the 856 ultralight might be the route I should go. I actually pocket carry an 856 often, but the 22 oz version.

When you get it, will you compare it to the LCR size wise?

Yes, will do. I also plan on trying to see if the J frame Big Dot front sight modification for fixed sight revolvers (where you file down the front to a nub and epoxy it on) would work height wise for this gun.

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I also ordered the $14 Galloway spring kit for it.

GJM
11-21-2021, 06:05 AM
Seems like Ruger is missing an opportunity — and should offer the “PF kit” of a LCR in 22, 327, 38 and 9mm all packed in a pelican case with the only options being whether you selected the JM, Darkstar or Phlster City holster

UNM1136
11-21-2021, 07:28 AM
The last time I talked to Cecil he wasnt running 327mag as his defensive round for carry.

The last bit of gel testing I read in a link from PF indicated better penetration from 32 H&R Mag, rather than .327 Mag. Better penetration, good expansion, and less blast and recoil is a big win in my book. I have a 2 year old LCR 9mm that I adore. A .327 LCR is likely going to be my next gun purchase. It has been a couple of years since I talked to Cecil...need to change that.

pat

BN
11-21-2021, 07:45 AM
Yes, will do. I also plan on trying to see if the J frame Big Dot front sight modification for fixed sight revolvers (where you file down the front to a nub and epoxy it on) would work height wise for this gun.


The pictures of the UL on the Taurus website look like it also has the pinned front sight.

JCN
11-21-2021, 07:55 AM
The pictures of the UL on the Taurus website look like it also has the pinned front sight.

Thanks! My M380 has an integral front sight and I didn't look at the fuzzy picture from the site I ordered the 856 from carefully and assumed it'd be the same way.

I confirmed that the UPC of the model I ordered matches the Taurus website picture with the pinned front sight and YES!

So I ordered the Ameriglo front night sight offered on the site, thanks!

This actually could be quite a decent option if it works okay.

Gun Mutt
11-21-2021, 11:27 AM
The last bit of gel testing I read in a link from PF indicated better penetration from 32 H&R Mag, rather than .327 Mag. Better penetration, good expansion, and less blast and recoil is a big win in my book.
I freely admit (and lament) that my search-fu is weak sauce. For all my attempts to find more material, I keep winding up on two videos from the same place while looking for .32 ammo info.

Second video makes a fairly convincing argument for just carrying .32 long SJLHP.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MidxEDeqhi8


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKdLQSonVYI

Ndbbm
11-21-2021, 12:13 PM
Seems like Ruger is missing an opportunity — and should offer the “PF kit” of a LCR in 22, 327, 38 and 9mm all packed in a pelican case with the only options being whether you selected the JM, Darkstar or Phlster City holster

Hahah…….h… wait, these things multiply like gremlins getting wet. Oh hey this 3 inch .22 LCRx is a fun gun to plink with and work on trigger press. Then a 38 because I couldn’t find a 9mm version or ammo for a 327 version. Oh then stumbled in to a 9mm version which in now my work bug. I still want a 327 version. The first LCR I shot was a 327 LCRx with 32 short wadcutters that was a rental. That was just fun putting nice holes in the paper with no real recoil.

And then only if dreams come true, a 2 3/4 - 3 inch dao LCRx, 6 shot 38 length cylinder with the 357 mag frame, bobbed hammer, cut for moon clips, with a 9mm cylinder as well. Slightly better rear sight and a top strap that will take an ACRO or 509t and adapters for a few others.

Oh well maybe they will at least do a 3 inch 327.

Jason

UNM1136
11-21-2021, 12:40 PM
I freely admit (and lament) that my search-fu is weak sauce. For all my attempts to find more material, I keep winding up on two videos from the same place while looking for .32 ammo info.

Here you go, fellow doggie styler.....

https://www.americanrifleman.org/content/the-underappreciated-32-magnums/

pat

fly out
11-21-2021, 01:20 PM
There are some interesting thoughts on the 32 magnums here (https://www.handloadermagazine.com/32-h-r-magnum-pet-loads), even if you don't reload.

Glenn E. Meyer
11-21-2021, 05:31 PM
Outdoor Limited has some 32 HR wadcutters and some 327.

BehindBlueI's
11-21-2021, 06:51 PM
The last bit of gel testing I read in a link from PF indicated better penetration from 32 H&R Mag, rather than .327 Mag. Better penetration, good expansion, and less blast and recoil is a big win in my book. I have a 2 year old LCR 9mm that I adore. A .327 LCR is likely going to be my next gun purchase. It has been a couple of years since I talked to Cecil...need to change that.

pat


I'm moderately curious how they do on bone strikes. .380 ball is the same general weight, but moving slower. It'll break a femur but then it's pretty much out of gas. I'd be concerned a faster and expanding round in the same weight would be likely to fragment.

I never saw a .32 used for realsies except in suicides. It works for under-the-chin shots just fine but stayed in the skull.

OlongJohnson
11-21-2021, 07:10 PM
Here you go, fellow doggie styler.....

https://www.americanrifleman.org/content/the-underappreciated-32-magnums/

pat

Never noticed how the reset side of the ratchet is milled as a giant bevel on the LCR. Kind of a neat touch.

(lead photo from that linked article: )

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It also reminded me how annoying it is that Speer discontinued that 115gr .312 Gold Dot. It's the bullet .327 Fed should be loaded with.

UNM1136
11-21-2021, 11:28 PM
I'm moderately curious how they do on bone strikes. .380 ball is the same general weight, but moving slower. It'll break a femur but then it's pretty much out of gas. I'd be concerned a faster and expanding round in the same weight would be likely to fragment.

I never saw a .32 used for realsies except in suicides. It works for under-the-chin shots just fine but stayed in the skull.

I've had similar thoughts. That is why I noted the increased penetration of the H&R loads in gel. I suspect the little magnums are pushed a little too fast with too much expansion to get to the back end of the penetration spec. And intended use is entangled, where the blast helps, and multiple COM, where a 20% payload increase is nice, and heads, where easy shooting is helpful.

Not a walking around town gun, but good enough for yardwork or backup to a bigger piece on paper. I'll have to see how it shakes out.

pat

BN
11-23-2021, 08:33 PM
I picked up my 9mm LCR from my FFL this evening.

I told my wife I had ordered a gun that was uglier than a Glock. :)

Trigger is very good. Much better stock than any J-Frame I ever shot. Trigger return seems to be OK.

I shot 20 rounds of my IDPA hand load at this steel plate at about 8 yards in the near dark. I could barely see the outline of the sights against the white plate. 15 rounds with the provided moon clips and 5 with no clips. All fired fine. 4 of the loose rounds could be plucked out with a fingernail but the last I needed to push out with a screw driver. It wasn't stuck very bad.

Recoil is noticeable but not as bad as a J-Frame with full power loads. I realized after I got back in the house that I wasn't bleeding like I would have with a J.

I'm anxious to chronograph some ammo.

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BN
11-24-2021, 07:51 PM
I shot my LCR over the chrono today. 48 degrees and partly cloudy.

147 Fed HST 10 shots averaged 956 fps. Same ammo averaged 1031 fps through my G-19 today.

15 rounds of my handloads averaged 878 fps. They usually go 900 fps through my G-19.

I fired 6 rounds of 38 Special 135 Gold Dot through my 2" Taurus 856 and they averaged 881 fps.

I had previously chronoed 38 Fed Match Wadcutter at 600 fps through a S&W 442.

I consider pistols this size to be pocket guns. If I'm going to carry in a belt holster, I can have a bigger gun that holds more ammo. So what I'm looking for is the compromise of the most powerful and the easiest to carry plus one I can shoot fairly well. There will always be compromises.

Recoil with the LCR is certainly noticeable but not obnoxious. I think it is much easier to shoot than a Ruger SP101 in 9mm. I'm surprised that I didn't bleed or hurt after shooting the LCR like if I had been shooting a J-Frame.

I fired 50 rounds of my handload, 10 HST and 5 Fed AE9FP.

The steel target has hits from 50 or so rounds fired over the chrono. I also shot on IDPA targets. The LCR might be hitting a little high for me, but it was cold today and I wasn't concentrating as much as I should have.

I found in my box of holsters, this Safariland 25 for J-Frames. It seems to fit fine.

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Cecil Burch
11-25-2021, 01:19 AM
The last time I talked to Cecil he wasnt running 327mag as his defensive round for carry.

When I run the LCR with more concealable grips (which is most of the time), I load it with 32 H&R. I have a nice set of G10 grips that fill the hand nicely and make the hotter loads easier to shoot so I carry 327 GDs if they are on, but they make the gun a belt only carry so that does not happen too much.

jetfire
11-29-2021, 10:33 AM
Re the LCR in 327 Fed with 32 Magnum, I did some shooting at Gunsite at the recently concluded revolver round up. Not that people are going to be using this gun in this role, but using the factory sights, hitting a 11x14 plate at 50 yards was a 1-for-1 affair with 32 Magnum. I decided to get sporty and go for 100, which I went 1/4 at 100 on the same plate.

The round shoots flat like a laser beam out to 50, and at 100 I wasn't really holding high on the one that hit. There's video on my instagram @radicaleb of me going SHO at 50 on the plate. I am really starting to think that the combination of concealability, shootability, and terminal performance is making the LCR with 32 Mag about my perfect DAO revolver.

peterb
11-29-2021, 01:20 PM
Re the LCR in 327 Fed with 32 Magnum, I did some shooting at Gunsite at the recently concluded revolver round up.
...
The round shoots flat like a laser beam out to 50, and at 100 I wasn't really holding high on the one that hit.

That got me curious, so I went to the Federal website and pulled up some bullet drop numbers. There are drop at 50, 75, and 100 yards with a 25-yard zero;

.32 magnum, 85gr: -1.0, -4.1, -9.4
.327 magnum, 85gr: -0.4, -2.2, -5.7
.38 special+P, 130gr: -1.9, -6.9, -14.9
.38 special, 148gr(wadcutter): -4.3, -14.4, -31.2
.357 magnum, 125gr: -0.3, -2.1, -5.4
9mm, 147gr: -1.4, -5.2, -11.5
9mm+P, 124gr: -0.8, -3.4, -8.0

Rex G
11-29-2021, 01:33 PM
That got me curious, so I went to the Federal website and pulled up some bullet drop numbers. There are drop at 50, 75, and 100 yards with a 25-yard zero;

.32 magnum, 85gr: -1.0, -4.1, -9.4
.327 magnum, 85gr: -0.4, -2.2, -5.7
.38 special+P, 130gr: -1.9, -6.9, -14.9
.38 special, 148gr(wadcutter): -4.3, -14.4, -31.2
.357 magnum, 125gr: -0.3, -2.1, -5.4
9mm, 147gr: -1.4, -5.2, -11.5
9mm+P, 124gr: -0.8, -3.4, -8.0

Interesting; thanks for the enabling. A .327 LCR is high on my short list.

On a related note, I see that it is still a good idea to bring a long-barreled .357 revolver with me, on road trips. (4” to 6” barrels, for now. I have yet to scratch the 8-3/8” itch.)

Rex G
11-29-2021, 01:35 PM
Re the LCR in 327 Fed with 32 Magnum, I did some shooting at Gunsite at the recently concluded revolver round up. Not that people are going to be using this gun in this role, but using the factory sights, hitting a 11x14 plate at 50 yards was a 1-for-1 affair with 32 Magnum. I decided to get sporty and go for 100, which I went 1/4 at 100 on the same plate.

The round shoots flat like a laser beam out to 50, and at 100 I wasn't really holding high on the one that hit. There's video on my instagram @radicaleb of me going SHO at 50 on the plate. I am really starting to think that the combination of concealability, shootability, and terminal performance is making the LCR with 32 Mag about my perfect DAO revolver.

Thanks for the enabling.

Guerrero
11-29-2021, 01:43 PM
Re the LCR in 327 Fed with 32 Magnum, I did some shooting at Gunsite at the recently concluded revolver round up. Not that people are going to be using this gun in this role, but using the factory sights, hitting a 11x14 plate at 50 yards was a 1-for-1 affair with 32 Magnum. I decided to get sporty and go for 100, which I went 1/4 at 100 on the same plate.

The round shoots flat like a laser beam out to 50, and at 100 I wasn't really holding high on the one that hit. There's video on my instagram @radicaleb of me going SHO at 50 on the plate. I am really starting to think that the combination of concealability, shootability, and terminal performance is making the LCR with 32 Mag about my perfect DAO revolver.

So here's the big question(s): which 32 magnum load do you use, and do you have a stockpile of it, or from where are you sourcing it?

jetfire
11-29-2021, 02:05 PM
So here's the big question(s): which 32 magnum load do you use, and do you have a stockpile of it, or from where are you sourcing it?

I use the Federal 85gr JHP, which is currently out of stock on their website. I have 120 or so rounds laying around, and when I run out of this hopefully they'll have some more in stock for me. If not, the Buffalo Bore 32 Long stuff is pretty solid and hits where I want it.

BN
11-29-2021, 08:01 PM
I replaced the front sight on my 9mm LCR with a HIVIZ. https://www.hivizsights.com/product/lcr2010/

I can see this sight better than the factory sight with the white line. It hits drive the dot with 147 HST and my hand loads. 115 grain hits low, but I usually only shoot 147. Tula steel case sticks and I had to push the ejector rod against something to eject. Everything else has run 100%.

I ordered a pocket AHolster.

I'm liking this revolver.

PNWTO
11-29-2021, 09:35 PM
Caleb is about the sell the most .32 wheelguns since the Red Scare and Prohibition.

But seriously, I’m looking for 2.

parishioner
11-30-2021, 05:59 AM
But seriously, I’m looking for 2.

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I just need it in .32 H&R and in the 13oz range........or a just a 432PD.

Agent Pappas probably would’ve lived if he had 6 shots instead of 5...just sayin

jetfire
11-30-2021, 09:22 AM
Caleb is about the sell the most .32 wheelguns since the Red Scare and Prohibition.

But seriously, I’m looking for 2.

If 32 Mag was legal in IDPA I'd sell all 38s and shoot nothing but 32 until I die.

JCN
11-30-2021, 10:28 AM
I’m lusting after a pocket snubby 6 shooter.

I have a Taurus ultra lite 38 six shot waiting at the FFL that I’m sure will cause me disappointment lol.

TheNewbie
11-30-2021, 04:40 PM
I’m lusting after a pocket snubby 6 shooter.

I have a Taurus ultra lite 38 six shot waiting at the FFL that I’m sure will cause me disappointment lol.

I can’t wait to hear your report on that Taurus.

03RN
11-30-2021, 06:38 PM
I’m lusting after a pocket snubby 6 shooter.

I have a Taurus ultra lite 38 six shot waiting at the FFL that I’m sure will cause me disappointment lol.

I'm only alive due to a Taurus .357 failure. Thank God for shit guns.

TheNewbie
11-30-2021, 07:34 PM
I'm only alive due to a Taurus .357 failure. Thank God for shit guns.

That would be interesting to hear. I’m glad it worked out though!


I agree about Taurus, but these 856s seem to be as good as anything else out there QC wise, but I still can’t shake the “it’s a Taurus” discomfort I have in the back of my mind.

Totem Polar
11-30-2021, 08:31 PM
I'm only alive due to a Taurus .357 failure. Thank God for shit guns.

I would love it if you could flesh this comment out for us a bit.
:cool:

03RN
11-30-2021, 08:49 PM
I would love it if you could flesh this comment out for us a bit.
:cool:

Suicide attempt.

After that I had another Taurus break a hammer in half. Then after I got it back from Taurus the trigger broke in half.

I'm pretty open about the suicide attempt. I've been a psych nurse for the last few years and have gotten comfortable talking about it to relate to patients.

Cory
11-30-2021, 09:08 PM
Suicide attempt.

After that I had another Taurus break a hammer in half. Then after I got it back from Taurus the trigger broke in half.

I'm pretty open about the suicide attempt. I've been a psych nurse for the last few years and have gotten comfortable talking about it to relate to patients.

That's strength.

Totem Polar
11-30-2021, 09:33 PM
Suicide attempt.

After that I had another Taurus break a hammer in half. Then after I got it back from Taurus the trigger broke in half.

I'm pretty open about the suicide attempt. I've been a psych nurse for the last few years and have gotten comfortable talking about it to relate to patients.

I am very happy that you made it through. And, yes, I too admire your stones and commitment to being forthright about that. Respect.

I’ll raise a glass to Taurus, next chance I get. Here’s to them being pieces of shit.

:)

Lex Luthier
11-30-2021, 09:39 PM
I would love it if you could flesh this comment out for us a bit.
:cool:

Standing behind Totem P and waving a spare drink-of-choice in your direction...

(Edit) Ah, got the answer. I'm downright grateful for that particular shit gun, too.

Gun Mutt
12-01-2021, 11:54 AM
RThere's video on my instagram @radicaleb of me going SHO at 50 on the plate. I am really starting to think that the combination of concealability, shootability, and terminal performance is making the LCR with 32 Mag about my perfect DAO revolver.

And you gained another follower. What sight are you running on yours?

Has anyone tried a standard XS dot on a .327?

jetfire
12-01-2021, 01:37 PM
And you gained another follower. What sight are you running on yours?

Has anyone tried a standard XS dot on a .327?

Factory sights on the gun, my eyes are still pretty good so I can see the white post pretty well, even with the gutter rear sight.

parishioner
12-03-2021, 11:21 AM
Does anyone have the weight of a .327 loaded with .32 H&R?

GJM
12-03-2021, 11:33 AM
Considering weight, size, caliber, capacity and shootability, what is the LCR of choice out of .22, .327, .38 or 9mm for pocket carry?

spinmove_
12-03-2021, 11:38 AM
Considering weight, size, caliber, capacity and shootability, what is the LCR of choice out of .22, .327, .38 or 9mm for pocket carry?

Daryl, Chuck Haggard, and Jetfire all seem to agree that the sweetness is the .327 loaded with .32 H&R mags.

BN
12-03-2021, 12:10 PM
I replaced the front sight on my 9mm LCR with a HIVIZ. https://www.hivizsights.com/product/lcr2010/

I can see this sight better than the factory sight with the white line. It hits drive the dot with 147 HST and my hand loads. 115 grain hits low, but I usually only shoot 147. Tula steel case sticks and I had to push the ejector rod against something to eject. Everything else has run 100%.

I ordered a pocket AHolster.

I'm liking this revolver.

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I wanted to see what POI is at different distances. I used drive the dot sight picture. The right target is 5 shots each at 5, 7 and 10 yards. The left target is 5 shots each at 15, 20 and 25 yards. The factory sight on my 9mm LCR was .220" tall and this HIVIZ sight is .245" tall. I was shooting my 147 grain handloads which average 878 fps in this revolver. On a warmer day I will try some 147 Fed HST to see if it stays more centered. It's overcast, damp and 40* today.

Gun Mutt
12-03-2021, 12:10 PM
Add Cecil to that list as well.

GJM
12-03-2021, 12:36 PM
Daryl, Chuck Haggard, and Jetfire all seem to agree that the sweetness is the .327 loaded with .32 H&R mags.

I am interested in the why part. The .357, .327 and 9mm models appear to be on the larger .357 frame LCR which bring pros and cons for pocket carry.

Mitch
12-03-2021, 12:47 PM
I am interested in the why part. The .357, .327 and 9mm models appear to be on the larger .357 frame LCR which bring pros and cons for pocket carry.

I’d like to hear that as well. I was interested in the 327 until I saw the weight. 1 extra round isn’t worth the weight penalty vs my 340 pd with wadcutters to me.

LtDave
12-03-2021, 01:51 PM
I am interested in the why part. The .357, .327 and 9mm models appear to be on the larger .357 frame LCR which bring pros and cons for pocket carry.

Less recoil versus an LCR in 38 or 9mm. Extra round is a bonus.

GJM
12-03-2021, 01:57 PM
Less recoil versus an LCR in 38 or 9mm. Extra round is a bonus.

Doesn’t that depend upon the round — I have heard the .327 magnum loads are on the order of shooting .44 magnum out of a Scandium 329!

Totem Polar
12-03-2021, 01:59 PM
The weight is the only thing that keeps me from drinking the SME kool-aid on this. Well, that, and the fact of having to stock another snowflake caliber in today’s ammo market. But anyways, the whole point of the LCR—to me—is the “L” part. As soon as a “pocket” gun equals or eclipses, say, a G43 in weight, it begins to suffer from competition for the pocket. JMO.

Clusterfrack
12-03-2021, 02:12 PM
The weight is the only thing that keeps me from drinking the SME kool-aid on this. Well, that, and the fact of having to stock another snowflake caliber in today’s ammo market. But anyways, the whole point of the LCR—to me—is the “L” part. As soon as a “pocket” gun equals or eclipses, say, a G43 in weight, it begins to suffer from competition for the pocket. JMO.

Exactly. I like my LCR 9 because it shoots well-vetted defense loads and doesn't require a boutique caliber. But it's just too big and heavy for me to carry in a pants pocket. So my pocket carry is now a Kahr p380 loaded with Underwood/Lehigh XP 90gr +p (1000fps).

Neither of us is a large dude, so maybe a few extra ounces is more noticeable in our pockets?

LtDave
12-03-2021, 02:26 PM
Doesn’t that depend upon the round — I have heard the .327 magnum loads are on the order of shooting .44 magnum out of a Scandium 329!

Yes. The .32 H&R mag rounds are GTG. .327 Federal are more sporty. I have a 432 in .32 H&R. It is not unpleasant to shoot.

ccmdfd
12-03-2021, 04:22 PM
Doesn’t that depend upon the round — I have heard the .327 magnum loads are on the order of shooting .44 magnum out of a Scandium 329!


Yes. The .32 H&R mag rounds are GTG. .327 Federal are more sporty. I have a 432 in .32 H&R. It is not unpleasant to shoot.

Yeah the H&R Mags are definitely the Goldilocks round for the LCR. .32 Longs are just too easy and the .327 Mags are sporty ( although I would not put them anywhere near the same class as shooting a 44 Magnum. And I've only shot 44 Magnums out of full-sized all steel-framed, massive Ruger and S&W)

Glenn E. Meyer
12-03-2021, 10:15 PM
I've said before that shooting full power 327s out of a SW 632 3 inch SS, comped and hammered gun had two characteristics:

1. It was loud and flashy. When I shot it in an IDPA match, the SO thought I blew up. I had switched from 32 SW Long to the 327 for some steel that previously sneered at the Long rounds. The gang also thought I blew up.

2. It does kick and surprisingly so. I shoot 45 ACP all day. This was stronger.

That 632 is a sweet heart of a gun. It fits little old me nicer than my SW Model 19.

Zeke38
12-04-2021, 08:41 PM
Just shot my first LCR today. (Finally got past the UGLY). It was a 38 2" DAO. I shot a Buffalo Bore 158Gr SWCHP Non+P . It was healthy in the recoil department but it put them right where I was looking at 15 yds. 5 shots into 3". That works for me. I think a hook was set today, but 600+ retail is a bit much.

Totem Polar
12-04-2021, 09:21 PM
Just shot my first LCR today. (Finally got past the UGLY). It was a 38 2" DAO. I shot a Buffalo Bore 158Gr SWCHP Non+P . It was healthy in the recoil department but it put them right where I was looking at 15 yds. 5 shots into 3". That works for me. I think a hook was set today, but 600+ retail is a bit much.

$500 shipped with tritium FS, and IWB/AIWB kydex?

:D

GJM
12-04-2021, 09:41 PM
I shot DocGlock's LCR 22 this afternoon. Very easy to shoot, and way easier to shoot than my 43C!

Doc_Glock
12-04-2021, 09:53 PM
I shot DocGlock's LCR 22 this afternoon. Very easy to shoot, and way easier to shoot than my 43C!

Why do you suppose? Better front sight? I shoot it better too but the Smith has a better overall trigger I think.

GJM
12-04-2021, 09:55 PM
Why do you suppose? Better front sight? I shoot it better too but the Smith has a better overall trigger I think.

Mostly trigger, but the sights are also better.

Gun Mutt
12-05-2021, 10:03 AM
Here's what I can find for my new LCR:
Lucky Gunner has .32 Long is 98gr Magtech & 100gr Fiochi wadcutters.
Buffalo Bore has .32 Long 115gr hardcast flat nose and .32H&R mag +P 100gr JHP.

Thinking I'll get a couple boxes of the Magtech for now, but I'm always open to PF advice.

I've set alerts on Ammoseek, Brownells & Midway...anywhere else I should be looking?

jtcarm
12-06-2021, 04:00 PM
After trying a rental LCR .38 special, I am finally ready to purchase a pocket revolver.

I would have preferred a Smith Centennial of some sort, but it is no contest between the triggers. Plus the replaceable front sight thing.

Now is the .32 Mag really worth taking on another caliber?

A new round is always a HUGE deal for me as a new gun will get shot a bunch, which means reloading and probably casting bullets.

BehindBlueI's
12-06-2021, 05:59 PM
Now is the .32 Mag really worth taking on another caliber?

A new round is always a HUGE deal for me as a new gun will get shot a bunch, which means reloading and probably casting bullets.

Not to me. I get it's the hot newness and .38 Special is now old and busted, but I always need some very compelling change in performance in intended role to expand my logistics. Simpler is more betterer.

jtcarm
12-06-2021, 06:25 PM
Not to me. I get it's the hot newness and .38 Special is now old and busted, but I always need some very compelling change in performance in intended role to expand my logistics. Simpler is more betterer.

It’s old, but never busted.

Yeah, thinking about it, I took on the .223 and .300 BO over the past 18 months. I still can’t find a decent powder for the .223 at a reasonable price.

New projects are fun, but not a good time for another.

BN
12-11-2021, 09:35 PM
I shot DocGlock's LCR 22 this afternoon. Very easy to shoot, and way easier to shoot than my 43C!

How are the triggers on the 22 LCRs? It seems to me, from what I read on the internet, that people just shoot LCRs without doing a bunch of modifications or custom work.

GJM
12-11-2021, 09:59 PM
How are the triggers on the 22 LCRs? It seems to me, from what I read on the internet, that people just shoot LCRs without doing a bunch of modifications or custom work.

The one I shot was great.

Jared
12-11-2021, 10:30 PM
How are the triggers on the 22 LCRs? It seems to me, from what I read on the internet, that people just shoot LCRs without doing a bunch of modifications or custom work.

Both of mine are quite good. It K-Frame Smith good, but good.

PNWTO
12-11-2021, 10:30 PM
How are the triggers on the 22 LCRs? It seems to me, from what I read on the internet, that people just shoot LCRs without doing a bunch of modifications or custom work.

My LCR-22 has the same ol’ LCR trigger we’ve come to expect, albeit maybe two or three pounds heavier due to rimfire springs. Still much more approachable than my 351PD.

That isn’t to say the 351PD has a horrid trigger, but it’s probably in excess of 13 pounds. My SWAG is my LCR-22 is probably around 10-11 pounds.

Gun Mutt
12-12-2021, 07:09 AM
Whether one owns another LCR or not, I find my .22 LCR to be a wonderful training tool. When I'm doing quality work with it, subsequent shots from my G26 reflect it.

willie
12-12-2021, 10:37 AM
I own a 38 Spl LCR and once had a 22 l.r. version and recommend either. I've been down every rabbit hole at one time or another. My opinion is that certain centerfire calibers used in snub nose revolvers fall within the same category. The 32's, .38 Spl, and 9mm have fans or adherents. Availability of effective 9mm ammo would be a primary reason to consider it. I hate moon clips which biases me against 9mm. My choice is .38 Spl and is based on a preference for the round. Ballistics are fair, I have a large quantity of modern defense ammo and ample components for reloading it. Right now I'm using the FBI +p lead h.p. ammo. With it I could shoot snails off of fence posts and decapitate sunflowers at 15 steps. Then I shot at a stump in the river about 60 yards away and hit it repeatedly. So I quit testing this load in my lcr. This narrative presented choice based on bias and preference. I admit that fact.

UNM1136
12-12-2021, 11:32 AM
The biggest problem I have found with the LCR was how easy it is to short stroke the trigger. Those of us who have been taught decades ago and are still required to teach "ride to reset" can have problems. Retraining is a bitch.

Still super happy with my 9mm LCR. Stubby cartridges in moon clips have their own issues, but as a uniformed backup piece it sings! I can reload at least once with the magazines for my Glock. Even with the stupidity we still teach about putting partially depleated magazines in a pocket. Sorry, just came of of biennial firearms "training".

As an "orifice gun" (or oriface?) It is super. Beats my former hole guns in .32 ACP, .380, and .38SP by a mile, and accuracy at 7-20 yard is great.

.327 mag is still calling to me. And I found a CZ P-07 for $450 the other day, and had to fight hard to keep my credit card from jumping out of my pocket...


pat

jtcarm
12-12-2021, 12:53 PM
How are the triggers on the 22 LCRs? It seems to me, from what I read on the internet, that people just shoot LCRs without doing a bunch of modifications or custom work.

IDK about the .22, but the .38 I tried was hands down the best Ruger DA I’ve ever shot. Hence I now want one, or two or three.

Poconnor
12-12-2021, 03:12 PM
Has anybody found a speedloader for the .22LR LCR? I already bought some tuff products speed strips.

BN
12-12-2021, 03:25 PM
PF enabling has occurred. I just ordered a 9mm LCR. :)

PF enabling has occurred again. I just bid on a 22 LCR. ;)

Ndbbm
12-12-2021, 03:28 PM
Has anybody found a speedloader for the .22LR LCR? I already bought some tuff products speed strips.

Speed Beez does, apparently for 22lr, 22mag, 327, and 38/357. I don’t own one of their speedloaders but I do use their moon clips for a 9mm lcr.

Jason

03RN
12-12-2021, 05:52 PM
PF enabling has occurred again. I just bid on a 22 LCR. ;)

I've been tempted on the 3" ones for my son. There's really no other decent 22lr da revolver that's not way to pricey.

Poconnor
12-12-2021, 08:10 PM
PF enabling has occurred again. I just bid on a 22 LCR. ;)

I bought one last week

BN
12-12-2021, 08:42 PM
PF enabling has occurred again. I just bid on a 22 LCR. ;)

I got outbid. :(

GJM
12-12-2021, 09:01 PM
PF enabling has occurred again. I just bid on a 22 LCR. ;)

Probably the one on my watch list on GB!

willie
12-12-2021, 09:13 PM
The biggest problem I have found with the LCR was how easy it is to short stroke the trigger. Those of us who have been taught decades ago and are still required to teach "ride to reset" can have problems. Retraining is a bitch.

Still super happy with my 9mm LCR. Stubby cartridges in moon clips have their own issues, but as a uniformed backup piece it sings! I can reload at least once with the magazines for my Glock. Even with the stupidity we still teach about putting partially depleated magazines in a pocket. Sorry, just came of of biennial firearms "training".

As an "orifice gun" (or oriface?) It is super. Beats my former hole guns in .32 ACP, .380, and .38SP by a mile, and accuracy at 7-20 yard is great.
as
.327 mag is still calling to me. And I found a CZ P-07 for $450 the other day, and had to fight hard to keep my credit card from jumping out of my pocket...


pat

I agree about the LCR's short stroke risk. Reset riding was one of my bad habits.

I bought a P-07 based on Cluster man's praise of this platform which CZ redefined and improved in recent years. Everybody needs one.

BN
12-12-2021, 09:18 PM
Probably the one on my watch list on GB!

If it's the one that just went over $600, then yeah. :)

JWH
12-12-2021, 09:46 PM
Has anybody found a speedloader for the .22LR LCR? I already bought some tuff products speed strips.

I have one of the revision ammo pods I got off of amazon. I haven’t run it hard, but it seems promising for not a lot of money.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B08KGST77R?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title

JCN
12-12-2021, 10:30 PM
I have a 2 inch 22WMR and a 3 inch 22LR. Did it with the external spur hammer so my kid can use them someday.

The 22WMR always gets other people looking over from the other stall.

JCN
12-12-2021, 10:31 PM
I have one of the revision ammo pods I got off of amazon. I haven’t run it hard, but it seems promising for not a lot of money.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B08KGST77R?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title

Thanks! I ordered a few!

Doc_Glock
12-13-2021, 11:57 AM
The biggest problem I have found with the LCR was how easy it is to short stroke the trigger.

While I don't think it is exactly easy to short stroke the LCR, it is definitely easier than the 43c which is near impossible to short stroke due to the reset characteristics. The S&W is superior here.

GJM
12-13-2021, 12:31 PM
Given the apparent small supply of LCR 22 and 327 revolvers, we on PF have managed to create a seller’s market on GB.

Dave T
12-13-2021, 01:15 PM
I have a 2 inch 22WMR and a 3 inch 22LR. Did it with the external spur hammer so my kid can use them someday.

The 22WMR always gets other people looking over from the other stall.

JCN,

Not giving you a hard time, just curious. Why not a 3" 22MAG? You give up a lot of velocity from a snub but 3" barrels are a little better than the shorter one ballistically speaking.

And, as a general question, I've always been led to believe the 22 WMR is a bit more reliable, miss-fire wise, than is older brother, the 22 LR. Anyone who's owned or shot both who can verify or deny any of this?

Dave

Dave T
12-13-2021, 10:29 PM
Just got done visiting Ruger's web site. Danged if I can find any LCR with a 3" barrel, no matter the caliber. Apparently in their wisdom Ruger has decided no one needs a 3" barrel in the LCR. Ain't them fellers just the smartest.

Oh, and I was reminded while perusing their offerings why I won't be buying an LCR. They have the market cornered on UGLY. I'll have to wait for the 6 shot, 36 caliber 101. No, that won't work either. I ain't gonna live that long. LOL

Dave

parishioner
12-13-2021, 11:59 PM
Just got done visiting Ruger's web site. Danged if I can find any LCR with a 3" barrel, no matter the caliber. Apparently in their wisdom Ruger has decided no one needs a 3" barrel in the LCR. Ain't them fellers just the smartest.

Oh, and I was reminded while perusing their offerings why I won't be buying an LCR. They have the market cornered on UGLY. I'll have to wait for the 6 shot, 36 caliber 101. No, that won't work either. I ain't gonna live that long. LOL

Dave

https://ruger.com/products/lcrx/models.html

Make sure you’re selecting LCRx. The 3” models have only been available in the exposed hammer variety.

And also....embrace the ugly 😎

OlongJohnson
12-14-2021, 12:50 AM
The biggest problem I have found with the LCR was how easy it is to short stroke the trigger.

Also easy with a GP100. I think that's just how Ruger does things.

spinmove_
12-14-2021, 08:27 AM
https://ruger.com/products/lcrx/models.html

Make sure you’re selecting LCRx. The 3” models have only been available in the exposed hammer variety.

And also....embrace the ugly 😎

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. There are people out there that think Tilda Swinton is hot. I’m not saying she’s ugly, because she’s not, but she’s not exactly my cup of tea either.

If it works and is an improvement upon the J-frame formula where no one else is making improvements, I care little how it looks. Is a J-frame prettier? Absolutely. Is the LCR an unholy abomination of aesthetics? Not exactly. As soon as I can pick up an LCR I’ll be happily carrying my Tilda Swinton special while my Scarlet Johansson chills in the safe.

Dave T
12-14-2021, 10:25 AM
So I stand (set) corrected, but...

Ruger has decided that if I want a 3" barrel I must want their very snagable rear sight and exposed hammer?

Reminds me of S&W and the Mod 327: Let's make a light weight, 8-shot, fix sighted N-frame, and put a 2" barrel on it so it will remind people of a Ruger. Not a 3.5" barrel (which is perfect on an N-frame), not a 3" barrel which would make sense, not even a 2.5" barrel to get a more workable ejector rod. Good grief!

OK, I've been grumpy enough for a couple days. I'll go crawl back under my rock. (smiley face goes here)

Dave

GJM
12-14-2021, 10:29 AM
You bitches were snoozing this morning, and I managed to snag a 22 off GB just now. :o

jandbj
12-14-2021, 07:41 PM
You bitches were snoozing this morning, and I managed to snag a 22 off GB just now. :o
2” LCR or 3” LCRx?

GJM
12-14-2021, 07:42 PM
2” LCR or 3” LCRx?

Two inch LCR .22 LR.

jandbj
12-14-2021, 07:55 PM
Nice! I had one, sold it, and.... just bought another last month. It’s the cycle.:cool:

Still want to try the 3” LCRx too.

BN
12-14-2021, 07:58 PM
You bitches were snoozing this morning, and I managed to snag a 22 off GB just now. :o

I saw that one and had it on my watch list, but decided I didn't need another gun right now. :rolleyes:

GJM
12-14-2021, 08:00 PM
I saw that one and had it on my watch list, but decided I didn't need another gun right now. :rolleyes:

So you are saying I got lucky, and at least one bitch wasn't snoozing!

BN
12-14-2021, 08:04 PM
So you are saying I got lucky, and at least one bitch wasn't snoozing!

Yeah, I saw that one and was wondering if I wanted a 2" or if I needed a 3" with adjustable sights. Still haven't decided. :) Prices are strange on GB.

Gun Mutt
12-16-2021, 01:03 PM
Finally got to run some .32L wadcutters through my new .327 just before dusk yesterday. Stopped by a friend's place in the country where he's got several steel targets set up. The silhouettes were pretty rusty and chewed up and I stopped shooting them after I saw a couple of bullets strikes giving off sparks. I switched over to the dueling tree and won against myself quite easily. I only shot 30rds, but I'm already delighted by this snubbie.

Some of the Buffalo Bore 115gr hardcast flat nose .32L that Daryl Bolke likes so much is arriving tomorrow, JM Custom PF-CF Special and Mastermind appendix pillow pad should be en route soon, I'll add some strips, loaders & A-zooms to my cart this weekend.

I'm definitely going to put an XS standard dot on this and I'm torn between the orange and green. Some informal testing, moving room to room in differing levels of light with two different Glocks makes me think that I see orange a little easier, but I'd love an online test that would help me determine for sure which of the two colors I can see better. Anyone have a link to such a thing?

TheNewbie
12-16-2021, 01:30 PM
Finally got to run some .32L wadcutters through my new .327 just before dusk yesterday. Stopped by a friend's place in the country where he's got several steel targets set up. The silhouettes were pretty rusty and chewed up and I stopped shooting them after I saw a couple of bullets strikes giving off sparks. I switched over to the dueling tree and won against myself quite easily. I only shot 30rds, but I'm already delighted by this snubbie.

Some of the Buffalo Bore 115gr hardcast flat nose .32L that Daryl Bolke likes so much is arriving tomorrow, JM Custom PF-CF Special and Mastermind appendix pillow pad should be en route soon, I'll add some strips, loaders & A-zooms to my cart this weekend.

I'm definitely going to put an XS standard dot on this and I'm torn between the orange and green. Some informal testing, moving room to room in differing levels of light with two different Glocks makes me think that I see orange a little easier, but I'd love an online test that would help me determine for sure which of the two colors I can see better. Anyone have a link to such a thing?

Does JM make lcr holsters?

Clusterfrack
12-16-2021, 02:44 PM
Does JM make lcr holsters?

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211216/f9ad1d1ac4d70e336e41371279ad7320.jpg

TheNewbie
12-16-2021, 03:38 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211216/f9ad1d1ac4d70e336e41371279ad7320.jpg


Que bueno!

GJM
12-17-2021, 12:45 AM
Back to the LCR, and in .22, how to carry it as a BUG. My pants don’t have a spare front pocket, and anyway they probably are not big enough pockets to hold one comfortably. Support hand AIWB? If so, Phlster City, JM or what is the sleekest with DCC clips?

BobM
12-17-2021, 06:44 AM
Back to the LCR, and in .22, how to carry it as a BUG. My pants don’t have a spare front pocket, and anyway they probably are not big enough pockets to hold one comfortably. Support hand AIWB? If so, Phlster City, JM or what is the sleekest with DCC clips?

The Dark Star Gear Apollo seems popular for this. I have one on order for my J frames that I plan to try left side AIWB.

fatdog
12-17-2021, 06:55 AM
once again you people have cost me money this week, I am sitting on a mountain of .22 WMR purchased back in the good old days when it was just a few pennies more than the .22LR and it includes a case of the Speer Gold dots, then I walk into an LGS yesterday, having followed this thread, and see a brand new LCRx in .22 magnum with a 3" barrel and my brain says, who knows when you will ever even see one of those again...but this thing is quite dandy, I am going to make a dent in my 22 mag stockpiles this coming year, this is a gun somebody should have made a long time ago...

Doc_Glock
12-17-2021, 09:12 AM
Back to the LCR, and in .22, how to carry it as a BUG. My pants don’t have a spare front pocket, and anyway they probably are not big enough pockets to hold one comfortably. Support hand AIWB? If so, Phlster City, JM or what is the sleekest with DCC clips?

Ankle. Kinda joking and yet...

Gun Mutt
12-17-2021, 12:17 PM
The DSG Apollo for the j-frame is truly a wonderful rig…absolutely love it. I mean no disrespect when I say that the same magic eludes me when applied to an LCR. YMMV, of course.

Clusterfrack
12-17-2021, 12:19 PM
Compare the width of some of the previously mentioned Kydex IWB holsters for the LCR (and other snubbies). Pay special attention the left side fold that makes the front sight channel. I had one that was unnecessarily wide in this dimension, and that pulled the butt out and printed horribly. The JMCK IWB3 I showed above is narrow--although it could be even more so.

Whirlwind06
12-17-2021, 12:24 PM
For those of you with 9mm LCRs, how are you carrying reloads?

PNWTO
12-17-2021, 12:52 PM
Back to the LCR, and in .22, how to carry it as a BUG. My pants don’t have a spare front pocket, and anyway they probably are not big enough pockets to hold one comfortably. Support hand AIWB? If so, Phlster City, JM or what is the sleekest with DCC clips?

I’m very biased to the Apollo but also have a City Special. To be honest I can’t stand it (City Special) when worn DCC’d to the belt but when mounted to the Enigma it is fantastic, go figure.

My LCR 22 spends a lot of time on the ankle in the Wilderness nylon rig.

TheNewbie
12-17-2021, 01:49 PM
Do any Safariland speed loaders work with the LCR?

vaspence
12-17-2021, 02:38 PM
I carried a 9mm LCR in an Apollo daily for about a year and it’s still my go to LCR holster. On reloads I just carried a moon clip in my front left pocket.

Screwball
12-17-2021, 02:43 PM
For those of you with 9mm LCRs, how are you carrying reloads?

I use these… for a 9mm S&W, but works the same.

http://delfatti.com/PMC-PO%20Page.html

Crazy Dane
12-17-2021, 03:40 PM
For those of you with 9mm LCRs, how are you carrying reloads?


2 moons married together in my pocket and I store extra in medicine bottles. There is a smallish sized prescription bottle the my BP meds come in from Walgreens that holds 2 moons perfectly. I had only intended to have extra in my day bag but I ended up having them everywhere, door pocket of the truck, glove box on the boat, tool box on the tractor. Its almost like I have a problem.

GJM
12-17-2021, 05:42 PM
My LCR .22 arrived and I took it immediately to the range. 40 grain range ammo and mini mags were well regulated but the Federal 29 grain Punch hit several inches left for me and the same amount right for my wife (I am right handed and she is a lefty). Any theories as to why the 40 grain was regulated and the 29 Punch was off in windage?

I managed to short stroke the LCR twice in 100 rounds, both times when I was trying to finesse the trigger in a small target. Do folks paint the white on the front sight red or orange? I handed my wife the 43C, and the trigger breaks so far rear by comparison with the LCR, that my wife thought the Smith was broken.

The first cylinder with the LCR, the extractor jumped two spent cases — that break in or something else? The trigger seems heavier than DocGlock’s .22, do they improve with use? Preferred snap caps?

Whirlwind06
12-17-2021, 06:20 PM
These work great as snap caps

The Hillman Group 370326 Ribbed Plastic Anchor, 4-6-8 X 7/8-Inch, Yellow, 100-Pack https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000H5WVCS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_PMZMXWADJTVARFB03F2Q

Joe Mac
12-17-2021, 06:34 PM
Do folks paint the white on the front sight red or orange?

Assuming the white bar on your front sight is slightly recessed like the one on my .357 LCR, it held Birchwood Casey Super Bright perfectly (I prefer the fluorescent red/orange), with no slop.

Crazy Dane
12-17-2021, 07:39 PM
My LCR .22 arrived and I took it immediately to the range. 40 grain range ammo and mini mags were well regulated but the Federal 29 grain Punch hit several inches left for me and the same amount right for my wife (I am right handed and she is a lefty). Any theories as to why the 40 grain was regulated and the 29 Punch was off in windage?

I managed to short stroke the LCR twice in 100 rounds, both times when I was trying to finesse the trigger in a small target. Do folks paint the white on the front sight red or orange? I handed my wife the 43C, and the trigger breaks so far rear by comparison with the LCR, that my wife thought the Smith was broken.

The first cylinder with the LCR, the extractor jumped two spent cases — that break in or something else? The trigger seems heavier than DocGlock’s .22, do they improve with use? Preferred snap caps?


I painted the stock sight orange ala walmart traffic cone orange nail polish and it works/ed great. I have gone to this sight here https://xssights.com/non-tritium-revolver-front-sight-ruger/ and its drive the dot with 147s(9mm). Knock on wood , I have yet to short stroke it and I even tried the FAST drill, definite misnomer in my case though. The trigger is smooth as butter after several hundred rounds and trigger reps.

I keep eyeballing the 22s and I definitely need a 3" wmr to go with my Marlin 57M.

UNM1136
12-17-2021, 07:56 PM
Re reloads....

Most days the pill bottle. At work, a G17 magazine. One of these days I am going to order the plastic Ruger moon clip belt holders. I really like the design.

pat

GJM
12-17-2021, 08:26 PM
I see Colin Noir has a new YT vid up on the LCR 9. Looks like he is still trying to figure out the revolver shooting part.


https://youtu.be/yw78d7Fmpb0

TheNewbie
12-17-2021, 09:41 PM
Finally picked up an LCRx .38. It carries easily in my jeans pocket in a Desantis pocket holster, and is lightweight enough that I forgot it was there for a moment today. The hammer is low profile enough that it shouldn't be an issue.


I looked at the Hogue Bantam Boot Grip, but it was listed as NOT fitting the LCRx. Is it possible to modify it so that it will?



Haven't shot it yet, but I hope to change that Monday.

Ndbbm
12-17-2021, 09:58 PM
Re reloads....

Most days the pill bottle. At work, a G17 magazine. One of these days I am going to order the plastic Ruger moon clip belt holders. I really like the design.

pat

Are the 9mm versions made anymore? I was looking for one or two and wasn’t finding them anywhere.

Jason

TheNewbie
12-17-2021, 10:40 PM
Are the 9mm versions made anymore? I was looking for one or two and wasn’t finding them anywhere.

Jason


gun.deals shows some.


https://gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/lcr%209mm

UNM1136
12-17-2021, 10:51 PM
Are the 9mm versions made anymore? I was looking for one or two and wasn’t finding them anywhere.

Jason

Got mine used 2 years ago on Gunbroker.

pat

Gun Mutt
12-18-2021, 07:46 AM
The trigger seems heavier than DocGlock’s .22, do they improve with use? Preferred snap caps?
One of my tasks for today is to search PF for the thread I remember seeing about improving LCR triggers...damned if I can remember who the OP is. I dry fired a new .38 at the LGS and was so impressed with how nice the trigger was (especially compared to my .22 LCR) that I seriously debated buying it right then and there. The trigger on the .327 I eventually found is quite disappointing in comparison.

I've posted this somewhere, possibly in this very thread, but when I asked about .22 snap caps, a PF'er told me that per Ruger, it was fine to dry fire their rimfires. I called Ruger and they confirmed that, but cautioned it only applied to their revolvers, not their semi-autos pistols.

Gun Mutt
12-18-2021, 08:19 AM
Found my post (#9) in the Official Ruger LCR Thread (https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?37449-quot-Official-Ruger-LCR-Thread-quot&p=902062#post902062):

whomever pointed out in another thread about .327 v 9mm that Ruger's manual indicates that it's perfectly safe to dry fire all their revolvers, even in .22 rimfire. I read it, but I still didn't believe it as I've known for 40yrs that you shouldn't dry fire a rimfire.

And I was wrong. I called Ruger directly and their rep assured me that all Ruger revolvers and rifles are safe to dry fire...even the rimfires. (Fwiw, they do not recommend regular dry fire of their semi-auto rimfire pistols.)


ETA: Absolutely zero luck finding the thread about slicking up the LCR trigger. If someone who doesn't have shitty search-fu can help, it'd be much appreciated.

Duelist
12-18-2021, 09:09 AM
Found my post (#9) in the Official Ruger LCR Thread (https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?37449-quot-Official-Ruger-LCR-Thread-quot&p=902062#post902062):

whomever pointed out in another thread about .327 v 9mm that Ruger's manual indicates that it's perfectly safe to dry fire all their revolvers, even in .22 rimfire. I read it, but I still didn't believe it as I've known for 40yrs that you shouldn't dry fire a rimfire.

And I was wrong. I called Ruger directly and their rep assured me that all Ruger revolvers and rifles are safe to dry fire...even the rimfires. (Fwiw, they do not recommend regular dry fire of their semi-auto rimfire pistols. )


ETA: Absolutely zero luck finding the thread about slicking up the LCR trigger. If someone who doesn't have shitty search-fu can help, it'd be much appreciated.

Interesting about the semi-autos. My MKII manual says it’s fine, and is in fact required in order to disassemble for cleaning. As that was my first ever gun, and only gun for years, I have probably live and dry fired that gun maybe a hundred thousand times. No chamber edge damage. Did break an RSA, though.

whomever
12-18-2021, 10:14 AM
I know lots of bullseye shooters who extensively dryfire MKII's w/o probs. I expect most use one of the plastic plugs, because why not.

I bought something like these:

https://www.larrysguns.com/Products/Chamber-Plugs__LGI.aspx

years ago. They last a long time. I like the free safety flag aspect for dry fire. After several years of use the flag part breaks off. If you saved up enough of them you could then use them in revolvers :-).

One note on MkII's etc: the reason they are dry fire safe is that there is a slot in the firing pin. There is a cross pin that goes through that slot limiting fore-and-aft travel of the firing pin. If you take the bolt apart and don't reinstall that pin, the gun works fine except it isn't safe to dryfire anymore.

willie
12-18-2021, 10:20 AM
I enjoyed owning the LCR .22 and regret not keeping it. In mine ejecting empties so that they all fell at the same time required holding the revolver with the barrel straight up and then briskly pushing the ejector rod. My gun's action did become smoother after use. I think that short stroking the LCR trigger is a definite possibility especially when transitioning from a J frame. The J frame reset is foolproof as long as the rebound spring is not cut or replaced with a weaker version. Smith uses the same rebound spring in J, K, L, and N frames. Weight is 17 pounds. J frame triggers because of reduced dimensions have less mechanical advantage than the others. This fact gives the J frame a hard double action pull and also provides it's strong reset.

About dry firing Ruger rimfire revolvers. In my Wrangler single action, dry firing caused the firing pin to hit the cylinder and put dents where it contacted the cylinder.

whomever
12-18-2021, 02:52 PM
"About dry firing Ruger rimfire revolvers. In my Wrangler single action, dry firing caused the firing pin to hit the cylinder and put dents where it contacted the cylinder."

Interesting. That's different from my Single Six; I've dry fired it a bunch without snap caps with nary a problem.

Even more interesting, I looked up the Wrangler manual. At the top of page 16 it says "The Wrangler revolver can be dry-fired without damage to the firing pin or other components".

https://ruger-docs.s3.amazonaws.com/_manuals/wrangler-B8k6d3rHb.pdf

I wonder if something it out of spec on yours?

Clusterfrack
12-18-2021, 05:35 PM
Do folks paint the white on the front sight red or orange?

This reminded me to paint my front sight.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211218/a6ae2f1e0a457e4763681a6feb42556f.jpg

03RN
12-18-2021, 05:52 PM
This reminded me to paint my front sight.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211218/a6ae2f1e0a457e4763681a6feb42556f.jpg

Wow that's crisp

Clusterfrack
12-18-2021, 05:55 PM
Wow that's crisp

Yes, it really pops. The orange fluorescent Testors enamel works great. It only needed one coat, applied as a small drop on the tip of a toothpick. Q-tip ready to soak up any overflow. (Cleaned with isopropyl beforehand).

JCN
12-18-2021, 06:19 PM
Yes, it really pops. The orange fluorescent Testors enamel works great. It only needed one coat, applied as a small drop on the tip of a toothpick. Q-tip ready to soak up any overflow. (Cleaned with isopropyl beforehand).

81519

81520

Toothpick application of Fluorescent Rustoleum I use for painting steel targets.

Joe Mac
12-18-2021, 06:39 PM
Here's the Birchwood-Casey on mine.

Joe Mac
12-18-2021, 07:07 PM
Another pic, different light. I like this stuff -- been using it on revolver sights for almost 20 years now.

UNM1136
12-18-2021, 09:30 PM
Are the 9mm versions made anymore? I was looking for one or two and wasn’t finding them anywhere.

Jason

I was at Cabellas a couple of hours ago, and they had one in the case, new. $599. I paid $350 for a lightly used one off of Gunbroker a couple of years ago.

pat

Ndbbm
12-18-2021, 10:09 PM
I was at Cabellas a couple of hours ago, and they had one in the case, new. $599. I paid $350 for a lightly used one off of Gunbroker a couple of years ago.

pat

Sorry, was talking about the 9mm moon clip holders that Rogers used to sell. Ruger still sells a 45 cal version. As far as 9mm LCRs Bass Pro Shops had a new one in Springifield a few days ago.

Jason

UNM1136
12-18-2021, 10:54 PM
Sorry, was talking about the 9mm moon clip holders that Rogers used to sell. Ruger still sells a 45 cal version. As far as 9mm LCRs Bass Pro Shops had a new one in Springifield a few days ago.

Jason

Wow. Seems like you are right, but there is this (http://jeffreycustomleather.com/MoonClip-MagazinePouchsAccessories.html). About twice the cost, but I like...

pat

TheNewbie
12-20-2021, 01:32 PM
Shot 45 rounds of PMC 132 grain through my LCRx today.

As much as one can tell from 45 rounds...


The gun is easy to shoot well enough, but did seem to shoot a little high with the PMC. Not enough to destroy your world but it’s noticeable. Need to try some different weights.


The recoil is not horrible but it’s certainly there to be noticed. Wadcutters would be king here, but they are hard to get right now.


One time I did seem to get what felt like a “dead trigger”, but that may have been from short stroking it.



Over all I like it for what it is. An easy to carry, lockless light weight revolver with a hammer to thumb. If it proves reliable, then more LCRs might be in my future.

TheNewbie
12-20-2021, 03:45 PM
If I pocket carry this thing while hiking as a BUG, is there any better .38 ammo to carry than the regular SD loads? The main issues I would face are smaller black bear and mountain lions.

Gun Mutt
12-26-2021, 09:09 AM
On my first LCR, I spent some time gently dremeling and sanding the OEM finger groove model and was more or less pleased by the result.

I want to like the Hogue boot grips I stippled...but I don't.

I've left the OEM grips as is on my new .32 and while I now prefer them to the ones I'd slimmed for the .22, I'm still willing to believe that there's something better.

I really wish VZ would bring an offering to the market, but a couple of years ago at the NRA show I spoke with a VZ rep who said they've yet to see that the juice is worth the squeeze to spend the development bucks.

Hogue G10's are nice, but far too large. If I'm gonna carry something that prints like a G19 in AIWB, it'll by gawd be a G19.

I held an LCR with the G10 Pachmayr, which I dismissed as too heavy. Anyone have any experience with their rubber version?

And lastly come the Rogers Enhanced LCR grip. I've read that people dislike them for anything with stout recoil, but I'd like to try them with my gentle calibers. Posted a proper WTB (https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?51011-WTB-Rogers-Enhanced-Ruger-LCR-Grips&p=1301234#post1301234) for same, but thought I'd bring it up in this thread to get more eyes on the request.

Totem Polar
12-26-2021, 10:56 AM
If I pocket carry this thing while hiking as a BUG, is there any better .38 ammo to carry than the regular SD loads? The main issues I would face are smaller black bear and mountain lions.

That’s probably a question for the likes of GJM but I would—and have—hit the trails with an LCR stoked with buffalo bore’s “standard pressure” 150 grain full wadcutter. The standard pressure is in quotes, because while it stays under +P limits, it recoils about like 135gr gold dot +P. The hard edged, hard cast also penetrates calibrated gel like a freight train—well over 20 inches. You can get the .38 even further up off its knees with the same firm’s +P 158 grain hardcast semi wadcutter “outdoorsman” load, but that load approaches low end .357 (+/-1000fps from snubs), which is a bit much for an LCR, IMHO.

If I had to rely on a featherweight snub for PacNW predators of all sorts, I’d probably reach for a box of that BB 150gr full wadcutter.

JMO, with the caveat that I am by profession and time constraints a bit of an avid indoorsman these days. Other more qualified opinions may be forthcoming.

Clusterfrack
12-26-2021, 11:45 AM
If I pocket carry this thing while hiking as a BUG, is there any better .38 ammo to carry than the regular SD loads? The main issues I would face are smaller black bear and mountain lions.

The backcountry is where I carry a 15 or 17 round auto and at least 1 reload. I would way rather continue to use a much more capable handgun by reloading than fall back on a BUG.

Glenn E. Meyer
12-26-2021, 12:04 PM
When fat ol' Glenn was out in the country, it was my rifle and a Glock 19. Now, I did add a NAA Mini with shot shells in my pocket for a snake. Another buddy was with his rifle and a Ruger SAA 44 magnum (for big snakes?).

Did once follow a huge porky pine through the mist at dawn (at a distance). Neat animal, just taking a stroll, confident in his or her abilities.

UNM1136
12-26-2021, 12:48 PM
The backcountry is where I carry a 15 or 17 round auto and at least 1 reload. I would way rather continue to use a much more capable handgun by reloading than fall back on a BUG.

Yeah, in the woods I only want one handgun. In my yard, or at the gym the LCR is plenty. Everywhere else it is a a G17/G19/M&P9/1911.

I subscribe to Uncle Scotty' theory of off duty carry. If the balloon goes up I want the gun I am most comfortable with, find the easiest to work, am the fastest and most accurate with. I don't want to compromise grip, sights, capacity or anything else.

My LCR is a BUG some times, a primary sometimes, and always a compromise. I consider it an "oriface gun": select your bodily opening, insert, and pull the trigger till everything gets quiet. A bit of an over simplification, and I have to qualify yearly with it out to 7 yards, including several headshots. When I carry it I am acutely aware of all of those compromises, and consider it a lot better than a sharp stick, but far from ideal.

pat

TheNewbie
12-26-2021, 02:15 PM
The backcountry is where I carry a 15 or 17 round auto and at least 1 reload. I would way rather continue to use a much more capable handgun by reloading than fall back on a BUG.

You are right, but I don’t want to leave the gun in the car either while I’m gone for hours. The P-07 is hard to beat for the kind of hiking I do with no grizzly threat.

TheNewbie
12-26-2021, 02:17 PM
That’s probably a question for the likes of GJM but I would—and have—hit the trails with an LCR stoked with buffalo bore’s “standard pressure” 150 grain full wadcutter. The standard pressure is in quotes, because while it stays under +P limits, it recoils about like 135gr gold dot +P. The hard edged, hard cast also penetrates calibrated gel like a freight train—well over 20 inches. You can get the .38 even further up off its knees with the same firm’s +P 158 grain hardcast semi wadcutter “outdoorsman” load, but that load approaches low end .357 (+/-1000fps from snubs), which is a bit much for an LCR, IMHO.

If I had to rely on a featherweight snub for PacNW predators of all sorts, I’d probably reach for a box of that BB 150gr full wadcutter.

JMO, with the caveat that I am by profession and time constraints a bit of an avid indoorsman these days. Other more qualified opinions may be forthcoming.


Excellent! Thank you.

DrkBlue
12-26-2021, 02:22 PM
My limited experience is a cat attack would be a rough experience. Hitting one would be the challenge if it is coming fast. Small frontal area, moves rapidly and very good at killing things that don’t want to be killed.

My one experience when I knew a cat was eyeing me… The J Frame I was carrying felt very inadequate.

I switched to either long guns or at least a double stack Glock 9mm after that for country walks. I wanted either more capacity or more power relative a 🐈 cat… Also figured more rounds would be a nice option.

As cat specific bullets, I felt just about any .38 or 9mm FMJ, JHP, etc. would be appropriate. My reasoning is they all *should* go through the skull. After that, most pistol velocity bullets are likely to penetrate and perforate the body in most aspects. That said, is that set of assumptions accurate and reasonable?

GJM
12-26-2021, 02:51 PM
In most encounters, the load probably doesn't matter, as shots are rarely fired. If shots are fired, the warning shot is often successful in dissuading the creature. If not, the shot anywhere in the body, stops the attack. If all those are unsuccessful, load choice does matter, and you would like to have a round capable of penetrating the skull of whatever animal you are worried about, since the upper CNS is a quick way to shut things down. More of those rounds is always better, since you get more chances to hit the brain.

03RN
12-26-2021, 02:57 PM
If I pocket carry this thing while hiking as a BUG, is there any better .38 ammo to carry than the regular SD loads? The main issues I would face are smaller black bear and mountain lions.

I shoot more grouse, hares, and squirrels than anything else but I'd carry the same thing regardless. A 158gr swc +p. 850fps or so in a 2" gun.

Totem Polar
12-26-2021, 03:45 PM
I shoot more grouse, hares, and squirrels than anything else but I'd carry the same thing regardless. A 158gr swc +p. 850fps or so in a 2" gun.

Pretty similar. That 150 gr hardcast WC BB load goes +/-870 from a J snub. Probably interchangeable with your handload, in all.

03RN
12-26-2021, 06:30 PM
Pretty similar. That 150 gr hardcast WC BB load goes +/-870 from a J snub. Probably interchangeable with your handload, in all.

Yup, I think my 148gr wc is 800ish iirc from my 2" gun. I just prefer the swc to make reloading a little easier.

Totem Polar
12-26-2021, 06:45 PM
I just prefer the swc to make reloading a little easier.

Point taken.

jandbj
12-29-2021, 09:52 AM
Little plate rack time with the LCR22

TheNewbie
12-29-2021, 05:37 PM
Little plate rack time with the LCR22


Those grips you have do not work with the LCRx. I’m looking at them to see if they can be modified to work.


How cold is it there? I’m complaining about how it’s supposed to be in the 20s this weekend.

jandbj
12-29-2021, 09:30 PM
It was around 25* that day.

Gun Mutt
01-05-2022, 12:31 PM
Doc_Glock was kind enough to send me a pair of the rubber Pachmayr LCR grips to try out and they just don't work for me. Oddly, a shooting buddy who loathes the LCR tried them & the OEM in dryfire and liked the Pach's much better.

So, with Doc's permission, I'm offering the Pachmayr grip up for Karma, shoot me a pm if you want to give them a try and I'll ship them on the following weekend.

KevH pointed out that Rogers Shooting School still offers their Enhanced LCR grip and I received it a couple of days ago. I'm waiting for my orange XS standard dot to arrive before I spend any more ammo, but I'm loving it in dry work. Every drawstroke ends with a perfectly aligned sight picture.

Lester Polfus
01-05-2022, 01:05 PM
I don't think we've talked about this yet in this thread:

Novak has a sight installation package for the LCR that gives it sights very similar to the Smith 640 PRo. (http://www.novaksinc.com/lcr-revolver.html)

Joe Mac
01-05-2022, 03:24 PM
I don't think we've talked about this yet in this thread:

Novak has a sight installation package for the LCR that gives it sights very similar to the Smith 640 PRo. (http://www.novaksinc.com/lcr-revolver.html)

Intriguing, thanks. I may email them to ask the cost of just sights and installation on mine.

Lester Polfus
01-05-2022, 03:29 PM
Intriguing, thanks. I may email them to ask the cost of just sights and installation on mine.

If you do, the group might be interested in what you hear. I just brought home a 640 PRO a few days ago, so it's a moot point for me, but if nothing else I'm curious. I don't know that knowing about this before then would have changed my course of action, as I preferred the 22oz gun, and I already had all the stuff to run a J-frame.

TheNewbie
01-05-2022, 08:57 PM
Doc_Glock was kind enough to send me a pair of the rubber Pachmayr LCR grips to try out and they just don't work for me. Oddly, a shooting buddy who loathes the LCR tried them & the OEM in dryfire and liked the Pach's much better.

So, with Doc's permission, I'm offering the Pachmayr grip up for Karma, shoot me a pm if you want to give them a try and I'll ship them on the following weekend.

KevH pointed out that Rogers Shooting School still offers their Enhanced LCR grip and I received it a couple of days ago. I'm waiting for my orange XS standard dot to arrive before I spend any more ammo, but I'm loving it in dry work. Every drawstroke ends with a perfectly aligned sight picture.


Do you have a link to the Rogers grip?

jandbj
01-05-2022, 09:03 PM
Do you have a link to the Rogers grip?
https://rogersshootingschool.com/collections/featured/products/rogers-enhanced-lcr-grip

TheNewbie
01-05-2022, 09:07 PM
https://rogersshootingschool.com/collections/featured/products/rogers-enhanced-lcr-grip

Thank you. Some how my google effort failed.

Ndbbm
01-06-2022, 12:06 PM
Intriguing, thanks. I may email them to ask the cost of just sights and installation on mine.

I wonder if their adjustable sight would work with that set up.

Jason

mmc45414
01-07-2022, 06:57 PM
I really wish VZ would bring an offering to the market, but a couple of years ago at the NRA show I spoke with a VZ rep who said they've yet to see that the juice is worth the squeeze to spend the development bucks.

I keep rooting for Altamont, I have these on my 360PD, and think something similar would be perfect for an LCR:

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Elwin
01-07-2022, 07:20 PM
I’ll be curious to hear thoughts on the Rogers grip. My LCR indexes high for me since my other carry gun is a 1911 and I’m used to its index. I also prefer a higher grip on the gun. But, I’m concerned about increased recoil with the harder grip material. The 13oz gun already kicks enough.

mmc45414
01-07-2022, 07:21 PM
Novak has a sight installation package for the LCR that gives it sights very similar to the Smith 640 PRo. (http://www.novaksinc.com/lcr-revolver.html)

Wow, if they would do that for $900 including the gun that seems like probably a nice deal.
Not sure I wanna spend $900 on a gun that looks like an LCR, but I guess "pretty is as pretty does, Forrest..."

Lester Polfus
01-07-2022, 07:37 PM
Wow, if they would do that for $900 including the gun that seems like probably a nice deal.
Not sure I wanna spend $900 on a gun that looks like an LCR, but I guess "pretty is as pretty does, Forrest..."

Right? I just spent $1K on a Smith 640 Pro. Frankly, I'd have been happy to spend less and not gotten the moonclip cuts, ball cuts on the barrel, or the "Pro Series" lettering on the side that is in script that looks like it belongs airbrushed below the door handle on an El Camino. I would have been even happier if the rest of the roll marking on the gun wasn't blurry and indistinct.

wvincent
01-07-2022, 07:45 PM
I’ll be curious to hear thoughts on the Rogers grip. My LCR indexes high for me since my other carry gun is a 1911 and I’m used to its index. I also prefer a higher grip on the gun. But, I’m concerned about increased recoil with the harder grip material. The 13oz gun already kicks enough.

I had a pair, I did not like them.
Kinda made the hand sting.
I think I gave them to DB.

GearFondler
01-07-2022, 11:06 PM
That Novak LCR looks sweet! I wonder what the sights are regulated for?

TheNewbie
01-19-2022, 09:16 PM
I keep looking at the Bantam Boot Grip for the LCR. It will not fit an LCRx "as is", but I am looking to see if one can be modified to work with the LCRx hammer.


Any thoughts?

willie
01-20-2022, 01:39 AM
My LCR is a .38 Spl. I carry it or a J frame at home and sometimes when leaving home. I shoot it well. I understand why some prefer the 9mm version.

jeep45238
01-30-2022, 02:13 PM
I recently sold off my j frames to hop back onto the LCR train. I currently have a .38 and a standing order for a .327 at my LGS, and wouldn't mind getting a 22LR model in the future. The 9mm model doesn't offer anything to me, nor does the .357 mag models. If you want ammo commonality, the 9mm is certainly capable, and has some cool tricks up it's sleeves, but I prefer my revolver ammo rimmed after trying to go down that path 6 or 7 years ago.

After literally 4 hours of running the trigger on my .38 as fast as possible I've gone from short stroking the trigger routinely to very rarely, with both hands. After lubrication the trigger pull is in the 9.5 pound range. The stocks need some modification, and a fiber front is in bound along with a boot grip to compare to modified tamer grips.

I forgot how surprisingly nice these ugly ducklings are, and the non-standard caliber offerings aren't really much more money than the standard offerings. Same can't be said for S&W.

As always, PF is a treasure trove of info consolidation.

To consolidate what I've rehashed in my head after reading this thread front to back today and with past memories of these buggers:
You absolutely can sand and dremel the factory stocks to fit your hands better.
The Ruger 9mm moon clip holders are no longer in production
The locks have been abandoned after the first few years of production
Rogers grips will brutalize your hands
Ruger boot/bantum grips seem to be the go-to for pocket, or for anything besides the factory tamer grips (call that a clue)
All sights are pinned, so it is easy to get a usable sight picture (vs a premium price w/ SW)
The trigger reset/double clutching is a thing - dry fire non-stop and try to avoid "riding the reset" like what was taught 20 years ago
G10 grips are heavy and no smaller than the LCRx grips
VZ doesn't think there's a market for LCR grips
The .327 Fed accepts 4 calibers, of which 32HR Mag seems to be the sweet spot with 20% ammo capacity increase
The holster that works for a J may not work for you with an LCR
Phlster city special is a love/hate relationship
DarkStar Apollo has some love
JM Custom IB3 w/ DCC monoclip and a "just under belt ride height" has some love
Wolff does sell lighter hammer springs and replacement cylinder release springs if so inclined (https://www.gunsprings.com/RUGER/LCR,%20LCRx/cID3/mID52/dID458)
Cylinders apper to swap between frames in some configurations, but concerns over steel vs. aluminum frames for some cartridges are expressed for good reason
Nobody thinks the LCR has a better reset than the J frame
The LCR appears to be huge over a J frame, but is more of an optical illusion
Pill bottles are very legit for moon clip carry.
Most replacement front sights will cause a severe POA/POI shift with 9mm/22 - XS sights makes some regulated for those calibers
LCR disassembly/smoothing video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJ72bId6znI

Chuck Whitlock
03-21-2022, 07:40 PM
Well, a recent change up (duty belt tweak and new outer vest carrier) to my infrequent uniformed appearance, and I just didn't care for how my CW9 rode. (Frankly, though a perfectly fine little gun, it just seems like a bastard step-child nest to the K9)

My SP101 rode well, but was heavier than I wanted in that role, so this gave me the excuse to actually look for a lightweight snubby, like I'd been contemplating for quite sometime. The local Shriner's lodge had a gun show this past weekend, and I traded into a used .38 LCR.

86353

This one cane with a Clip Draw, which I'm going to need to remove to record the serial number. I'm experimenting with it in the meantime to see if it will get put back on. Claude Warner has had favorable things to say about the product.

I've got a boot grip and pocket and vest holsters inbound from Mika, who was absolutely delightful to deal with.

GJM
03-21-2022, 08:04 PM
Same experience here with Mika.

My LCR .327 arrived today but haven't shot it yet.

DrkBlue
03-21-2022, 11:34 PM
Well, a recent change up (duty belt tweak and new outer vest carrier) to my infrequent uniformed appearance, and I just didn't care for how my CW9 rode. (Frankly, though a perfectly fine little gun, it just seems like a bastard step-child nest to the K9)

My SP101 rode well, but was heavier than I wanted in that role, so this gave me the excuse to actually look for a lightweight snubby, like I'd been contemplating for quite sometime. The local Shriner's lodge had a gun show this past weekend, and I traded into a used .38 LCR.

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This one cane with a Clip Draw, which I'm going to need to remove to record the serial number. I'm experimenting with it in the meantime to see if it will get put back on. Claude Warner has had favorable things to say about the product.

I've got a boot grip and pocket and vest holsters inbound from Mika, who was absolutely delightful to deal with.

Clipdraws have really grown on me. I used to think they were goofy, but these days, they are great additions to Airweight models. I have them on my Smith Model 12s. There is no excuse to not have a revolver near at hand.

The adhesive models also let you tailor to your body and preferred grip/ride angle. I had some slightly oversized grips that didn’t work with the standard clip draw, but a hack saw removed a quarter inch for a better fit.

The adhesive clips sometimes can go wrong. Lots of rubbing alcohol on your frame and I have taken to using a softer clamp to make sure they set up overnight. That said, with some determination, you can still remove them.

TheNewbie
03-22-2022, 08:56 AM
Is there much of an advantage to a SP101 vs an LCR .357?

Obviously the SP101 is heavier and that could help with recoil but I remember reading that the LCR was not much worse recoil wise.

For some odd reason I really want an SP101 but I already have an LCR .38, so another LCR makes more sense.

Maybe holster options and speed loader options are better for the SP101?

camsdaddy
03-22-2022, 01:45 PM
Is there much of an advantage to a SP101 vs an LCR .357?

Obviously the SP101 is heavier and that could help with recoil but I remember reading that the LCR was not much worse recoil wise.

For some odd reason I really want an SP101 but I already have an LCR .38, so another LCR makes more sense.

Maybe holster options and speed loader options are better for the SP101?

Ive been through this and I love an SP101 and have tried to justify one. In reality I could never shoot 357 through the one I had without it slicing my finger. When firing 38 special there was nothing that my 642 or 60 couldnt do and do it with less weight. I find the LCR and 642 being interchangeable.

GJM
03-22-2022, 02:01 PM
Shot my LCR .327, and it was well regulated with the Buffalo Bore ammo. Seems quite a bit larger than a J frame!

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Crazy Dane
03-22-2022, 02:07 PM
Is there much of an advantage to a SP101 vs an LCR .357?

Obviously the SP101 is heavier and that could help with recoil but I remember reading that the LCR was not much worse recoil wise.

For some odd reason I really want an SP101 but I already have an LCR .38, so another LCR makes more sense.

Maybe holster options and speed loader options are better for the SP101?


I have the SP101 .357 and a 9MM LCRx (same frame as the .357). The advantage for shootability goes to the SP just by the smallest of margin, this is due to the SP having a larger grip.. They both shoot extremely well. The SP will only fit in the largest of pockets. The LCR wears the factory grips with the finger grooves removed and will fit in most pockets.

Holster selections are good for both but a maker may only have options for one and not the other, i.e. Philster and Darkstar only have LCRs listed. Our favorite maker, JMCK, lists both.

I have HKS 36As, Safariland Comp 1s and a Ruger branded Pachmayer for speed loaders, they all fit both. The 36As work better with the SP and the Pachmayer lines up better on the LCR. The Comp 1 lines up on the LCR but it being 9mm, the cartridges wont go in far enough to actuate it. Moon clips for the LCR are awesome.


The SP has become my in and around the house gun. I picked up a paddle holster from a gun show vendor for easy on/off. I have run the weed eater, mowed, cut fire wood etc. while carrying it. I don't feel out of sorts if I have to run to town with it. It is starting to see some bug use when I carry a revolver as a primary but its size is making that hard to do.

My LCR lives as a bug even though it was intended to be a house gun. It being the same caliber as my primary, ammo management is easy. It is always in a pocket when gassing up and it becomes a primary while in the boat fishing.

The SP was not my choice, it was bought by my kids for my birthday a couple of years ago. I don't think I would have ever got it for myself but now that I have it, it is a great gun. It is small enough to wear while doing chores and the grip is just big enough to shoot accurately and soak up full magnum recoil. I wouldn't want to shoot it all day but have gone a few hundred rounds without it becoming painful.

The LCR is a great gun also. It is small enough to be dropped in most any pocket and light enough to be carried in gym shorts. It has a great trigger making it easy to shoot. I don't think it is ugly.

I could probably live with out one of them but please don't make me choose.

tlong17
03-22-2022, 05:04 PM
Shot my LCR .327, and it was well regulated with the Buffalo Bore ammo. Seems quite a bit larger than a J frame!

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Where did you find the Buffalo Bore 32 longs?

GJM
03-22-2022, 05:12 PM
Where did you find the Buffalo Bore 32 longs?

Buffalo Bore website

GJM
03-23-2022, 02:59 PM
Anyone tried the Hogue G10 LCR grips?

fatdog
03-23-2022, 03:15 PM
Anyone tried the Hogue G10 LCR grips?

worked well on my 3" .38 but added way too much weight for my taste...in fact if you want to try a pair PM me and I will send them out...they are in the giant box of unloved grips....which I should sell or karma away at some point

GJM
03-23-2022, 06:15 PM
worked well on my 3" .38 but added way too much weight for my taste...in fact if you want to try a pair PM me and I will send them out...they are in the giant box of unloved grips....which I should sell or karma away at some point

That is a very generous offer, but your experiment just saved me 100 bucks. I need to figure out how to make the LCR smaller in my pocket not bigger!

Clusterfrack
03-23-2022, 06:32 PM
That is a very generous offer, but your experiment just saved me 100 bucks. I need to figure out how to make the LCR smaller in my pocket not bigger!

Hogue Bantam are the smallest I’ve found.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220323/383cab4ea773ca6b47ae6761dcc9c249.jpg

GJM
03-23-2022, 06:33 PM
Hogue Bantam are the smallest I’ve found.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220323/383cab4ea773ca6b47ae6761dcc9c249.jpg

I ordered a set last week, but they must be coming by way of Ukraine.

fatdog
03-23-2022, 07:26 PM
That is a very generous offer, but your experiment just saved me 100 bucks. I need to figure out how to make the LCR smaller in my pocket not bigger!

the VZ is definitely not what you seek

P226SAOFan
03-23-2022, 08:22 PM
Did anyone ask for a quote from Novaks for that rear sight mod?

Totem Polar
03-23-2022, 10:03 PM
I ordered a set last week, but they must be coming by way of Ukraine.

PM inbound

Chuck Whitlock
03-24-2022, 07:22 AM
Hogue Bantam are the smallest I’ve found.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220323/383cab4ea773ca6b47ae6761dcc9c249.jpg

Just for general information, these grips are $10 cheaper from Ruger than direct from Hogue.

BN
03-24-2022, 08:53 AM
Hogue Bantam are the smallest I’ve found.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220323/383cab4ea773ca6b47ae6761dcc9c249.jpg

I got a set of these from Ruger for my 9mm LCR. They hurt. They snapped my little finger. I almost didn't fire the whole first cylinder. I immediately put the original grips back on.

jandbj
03-25-2022, 11:51 PM
Did anyone ask for a quote from Novaks for that rear sight mod?

I emailed but never heard back. May need to try calling them. 🤷🏻*♂️

RJ
03-26-2022, 05:43 AM
I got a set of these from Ruger for my 9mm LCR. They hurt. They snapped my little finger. I almost didn't fire the whole first cylinder. I immediately put the original grips back on.

Same here with my .38 LCR with wadcutters even. I thought they sucked and put the original grips back on immediately.

And they went on extremely tight. In fact I destroyed them trying to get them off, as I recall.

mtnbkr
03-26-2022, 08:16 AM
The DSG Apollo for the j-frame is truly a wonderful rig…absolutely love it. I mean no disrespect when I say that the same magic eludes me when applied to an LCR. YMMV, of course.

I noticed the same thing and ended up selling my LCR DSG Apollo. I still have the j-frame version, which as you said, is wonderful.

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GJM
03-26-2022, 10:15 AM
I got a set of these from Ruger for my 9mm LCR. They hurt. They snapped my little finger. I almost didn't fire the whole first cylinder. I immediately put the original grips back on.


Same here with my .38 LCR with wadcutters even. I thought they sucked and put the original grips back on immediately.

And they went on extremely tight. In fact I destroyed them trying to get them off, as I recall.

Very interesting. The finger grooves of the Hogue grips that come on the LCR dig into my hands, but the Bantam Hogue grips position my trigger finger better and are comfortable on the LCR .327 shooting Buffalo Bore.

Chuck Whitlock
03-26-2022, 10:34 AM
I got a set of these from Ruger for my 9mm LCR. They hurt. They snapped my little finger. I almost didn't fire the whole first cylinder. I immediately put the original grips back on.


Same here with my .38 LCR with wadcutters even. I thought they sucked and put the original grips back on immediately.


Very interesting. The finger grooves of the Hogue grips that come on the LCR Sig into my hands, but the Bantam Hogue grips position my trigger finger better and are comfortable on the LCR .327 shooting Buffalo Bore.

Interesting indeed. Mine are scheduled to arrive today. If they don't work out, I may do some shaping of the originals.

Clusterfrack
03-26-2022, 10:53 AM
The only finger grooves that fit my hand are on the Glock 19. Grooved revolver grips fit especially badly for me, and I prefer to have my fingers together tightly.

Gun Mutt
03-26-2022, 01:31 PM
Interesting indeed. Mine are scheduled to arrive today. If they don't work out, I may do some shaping of the originals.

PF taught me that I could dremel and emery cloth rubber grips. This is what the OEM's look like on my .22 LCR:

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Thy.Will.Be.Done
03-26-2022, 01:44 PM
The only finger grooves that fit my hand are on the Glock 19. Grooved revolver grips fit especially badly for me, and I prefer to have my fingers together tightly.

I think most all finger grooves tend to be a feature that is less than useless, especially the Glock 17's is terrible for me.

ekrauos
04-10-2022, 06:49 PM
Remember everyone's hands are a bit different, so buying many grips to see which fits best is a good idea. Also modifying the grips to fit even better is a good idea.

In general:
Stock hogues are the most comfortable because of large volume and cushion. And yes they can be dremel sanded. They are grippy and can slow down draws from the pocket. Grinding the lip of the bottom front helps with concealment. 100 rds of .38spl through the .357 LCR is comfortable.

Bantams boot are smaller, plastic sides, rubber on front and backstrap. Conceal the easiest. Less comfortable than the stock grips. The area behind the trigger guard can be dremeled to enable higher grip on the gun, also to reduce the grip from sliding out of sweaty hands. The rubber front and back still can slow pocket draws. 100 rds .38spl through the .357 LCR gets uncomfortable with some tenderness in hand the next day.

Rogers enhanced are hard plastic, and the lightest. They also have room for the pinky, which can be sanded off. The shape of the grip allows for good mechanical stability and does not slide out even with sweaty hands, and the non sticky plastic allows for smooth pocket draws. These don't sting, but are the least comfortable when shooting .38 spl out of the .357 lcr, 100 rds would be enough for me. These would be good for left hand as well, because they have a speed loader cutout on both sides, which is a nice spot for the thumb to tuck in for added stability.
The Rogers enhanced with pinky sanded off is my favorite grip so far. I bought a second one on Amazon to sand down even shorter on the pinky end.

So now my mindset is build the gun around the grips, how do we get less recoil? Go down to 22 lr. Which will give us a less recoil, lighter weight gun (aluminum vs steel for the comfortable shooting .357 w .38s), three more rounds capacity, and less expensive ammo. Even federal 22 punch is cheaper than garbage .38 spl.

Check out "demonstrated concepts" on YouTube872698727087271872728727387274

Gun Mutt
04-15-2022, 07:58 AM
Really like what you've done with the Rogers grip. I may have to pick up another set and give that a try. My .32 LCR is for AIWB carry in light summer clothes, my .22 for training and pocket carry on lawn mowing days mainly. Decided to try another set of the boot grips for the .22, adding a strip of 3M makes me like it a little more, but still, I wish VZ would get with the fekkin program and tool up for the LCR.

Did a bunch of dry work with the .22 after installing the boot grips...boy does the .32 have an even sweeter feeling trigger after a couple hundred rimfire trigger pulls.

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Chuck Whitlock
04-16-2022, 01:39 PM
I really wanted to like the boot grips, but felt like the gun could squirt out of my hand. I may be deluding myself, but they look and feel like they position the social finger lower than the OEM Tamers. Like the opposite of an undercut.

jeep45238
04-17-2022, 07:27 AM
I really wanted to like the boot grips, but felt like the gun could squirt out of my hand. I may be deluding myself, but they look and feel like they position the social finger lower than the OEM Tamers. Like the opposite of an undercut.

I agree, and have added an undercut to the tamers as well as the boots with a dremel and a buff wheel on it - I need to add more of an undercut on the boot.

kwb377
04-20-2022, 02:05 PM
I picked up a 3" LCRx in .38 yesterday and took it out to zero the sights.

I was using Winchester 130gr FMJ and Win. Ranger 130gr. +P JHP. I planned to start at 7 yds. then move back to 15yds., but it was initially @ 10" low and 5" left. I continued to crank up and right trying to get POA=POI until I had the elevation nearly topped out and enough windage to have the blade overhanging the sight body...by then I had used the 100 rounds I had brought (I figured it'd only take maybe three cylinders to zero).

Someone suggested perhaps I was flinching and pushing the shots low/left...but I also shot my SP101 w/ .357 125gr. JHPs and put them all in the head on a IDPA target. If one were apt to flinch, that'd definitely be a combo that would induce it.

I sent a message to Ruger and making arrangements for an RMA to get it back enroute to the Mothership.


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https://a4.pbase.com/g12/07/240307/2/172531213.fwHCBR61.jpg

psalms144.1
04-20-2022, 02:38 PM
How much wiggle is "normal" in the cylinder when it's latched shut? Mine doesn't rattle, but I can move the cylinder appreciably (1/8" or more) when the cylinder is closed and loaded. I didn't notice any lead shaving or spitting when shooting, but, frankly, I only put 10-15 rounds through it so far.

Thanks!

PNWTO
04-21-2022, 12:01 PM
How much wiggle is "normal" in the cylinder when it's latched shut? Mine doesn't rattle, but I can move the cylinder appreciably (1/8" or more) when the cylinder is closed and loaded. I didn't notice any lead shaving or spitting when shooting, but, frankly, I only put 10-15 rounds through it so far.

Thanks!

My LCR and 3" LCRx are pretty good, no perceptible play. My .22 has a bit of end play, about what you stated, and is putting a wear line on two points in the rear of the window. That said, I'm probably about 1,400 rounds or so in and haven't seen any other issues or evidence, and the B-8 is happy so I don't think much of it.

ekrauos
04-29-2022, 08:21 PM
One thing to note on the rogers, the pinky area is hollow, then not hollow, then hollow again. Here is the second attempt and making it shorter. Hot glue filled the void.



Has anyone tried clear coating the stock tamer grips? Maybe that will make them less sticky and feel like plastic.

Kirk
05-04-2022, 11:50 PM
Need some opinions here if possible. I don’t really know where to ask this, so figured I’d get thoughts here. All things being equal, would you guys prefer to pocket carry a .380 LCP or a .327 LCR? I haven’t shot either surprisingly, and need a “rule one gun” for around the house and for NPE-ish carry. Just curious which guns you prefer and which you shoot better. I’m really intrigued by the 327 LCR at 6 rounds, so much so that I’ve even thought of running one for fun in Steel Challenge :D

(Sorry if this causes thread drift - just wasn’t sure where to ask this question specifically)

TheNewbie
05-05-2022, 12:01 AM
Need some opinions here if possible. I don’t really know where to ask this, so figured I’d get thoughts here. All things being equal, would you guys prefer to pocket carry a .380 LCP or a .327 LCR? I haven’t shot either surprisingly, and need a “rule one gun” for around the house and for NPE-ish carry. Just curious which guns you prefer and which you shoot better. I’m really intrigued by the 327 LCR at 6 rounds, so much so that I’ve even thought of running one for fun in Steel Challenge :D

(Sorry if this causes thread drift - just wasn’t sure where to ask this question specifically)


I would prefer a reliable pocket .380 for a true NPE/around the house gun. Lighter and easier to conceal.


My LCRx.38 is light enough, but doesn’t compare to the LCP/P32 in ease of concealment.


That said, the LCR is more likely to be reliable, and if I had plenty of funds, an LCRx .327 would be something I really looked at.

PNWTO
05-05-2022, 12:29 AM
would you guys prefer to pocket carry a .380 LCP or a .327 LCR?

Probably merits a new topic or a necro of a one but that does require some fleshing out.


Weight
Capacity
Action type, comfort with action
Size and manner of dress
User ability and performance


I have a LCP Max and .22 LCP on order to explore something similar; albeit compared to a .38 and .22 LCR. My biggest gripe with the .327 LCR was echoed by DB in a recent podcast: I’m not going to load it with .327 so I feel penalized by the heavier .357 steel frame. If Ruger did a .32 H&R on the aluminum .38 frame… my wife would not be happy.

As it stands I’m much more comfortable with a DAO snub in the pocket and appreciate certain features that a snub offers with respect to entanglements, daily life, and a long, heavier-than-SFA trigger.

So, in my context, I’m eager to flesh it all out. My (very) ad hoc list above would suggest the LCPs exceed the LCR in points 1,2, and 4, so point #5 needs attention. I would like think for NPEs and “base layer” life an autoloading mouse gun would be preferential but it would feel awkward to not have a small wheelie stowed away.

/endrambling

/goingtobed

TheNewbie
05-05-2022, 09:33 AM
Probably merits a new topic or a necro of a one but that does require some fleshing out.


Weight
Capacity
Action type, comfort with action
Size and manner of dress
User ability and performance


I have a LCP Max and .22 LCP on order to explore something similar; albeit compared to a .38 and .22 LCR. My biggest gripe with the .327 LCR was echoed by DB in a recent podcast: I’m not going to load it with .327 so I feel penalized by the heavier .357 steel frame. If Ruger did a .32 H&R on the aluminum .38 frame… my wife would not be happy.

As it stands I’m much more comfortable with a DAO snub in the pocket and appreciate certain features that a snub offers with respect to entanglements, daily life, and a long, heavier-than-SFA trigger.

So, in my context, I’m eager to flesh it all out. My (very) ad hoc list above would suggest the LCPs exceed the LCR in points 1,2, and 4, so point #5 needs attention. I would like think for NPEs and “base layer” life an autoloading mouse gun would be preferential but it would feel awkward to not have a small wheelie stowed away.

/endrambling

/goingtobed



Good points.

A reliable pocket auto, especially a “max” with a long DAO pull, is probably the best NPE pocket gun. You can still shoot them ok and they are safe to carry. The problem is in the reliability department, and that if you get a SFA trigger, I think you lose out on the safety aspect.


If you’re a big guy, and your pants pockets are bigger, then it may be a non issue. For me, I can tell the difference between an LCR and a J frame, but that’s mainly in the grip area.


What stops me from pursuing the .327 LCR is the cost and availability of ammunition.

wvincent
05-05-2022, 10:25 AM
Need some opinions here if possible. I don’t really know where to ask this, so figured I’d get thoughts here. All things being equal, would you guys prefer to pocket carry a .380 LCP or a .327 LCR? I haven’t shot either surprisingly, and need a “rule one gun” for around the house and for NPE-ish carry. Just curious which guns you prefer and which you shoot better. I’m really intrigued by the 327 LCR at 6 rounds, so much so that I’ve even thought of running one for fun in Steel Challenge :D

(Sorry if this causes thread drift - just wasn’t sure where to ask this question specifically)

If I wasn't already sitting here with a .38 LCR, I would be rolling through the mean streets of my AO (okay, okay, gravel roads and two-track section lines:rolleyes:) with a .327 LCR.
Why? Two main reasons:
1. Regarding pocket carry, I know that my own self can get a much cleaner draw with a small revolver from the pocket.
2. In my case, much better chance with 5 "for sure", in your case, 6 "for sure". If, it was cleaned and lubed from the last shooting session, and you took the whole 10 seconds to inspect your ammo for high primers, etc, I feel very confident that I will have 5 chances to determine my life's outcome.

frozentundra
05-05-2022, 11:04 AM
My biggest gripe with the .327 LCR was echoed by DB in a recent podcast: I’m not going to load it with .327 so I feel penalized by the heavier .357 steel frame. If Ruger did a .32 H&R on the aluminum .38 frame… my wife would not be happy.


I want an LCR, but I'm stuck on this decision. The .38 is nearly 1/4 pound lighter for pocket carry, but I'd rather have 6 rounds and .32 cartridge family.


I may need to resort to coin flipping or cloudreading to decide. If they made an aluminum .32 H&R LCR it would be the best of both worlds.

Doc_Glock
05-05-2022, 12:40 PM
All things being equal, would you guys prefer to pocket carry a .380 LCP or a .327 LCR? )

100% .380 LCP. LCR is too big. Edit: And heavy.

Gun Mutt
05-06-2022, 11:38 AM
Ever since Rhett @Demonstrated Concepts appeared on my radar, I've been spending a lot more time with my .22 LCR and getting uber happy all over again about buying it. It had been relegated to a training tool and pocket carry on lawn days. Nowadays, when I get home, the Glock goes in the safe and the .22 LCR goes in my waistband.

That role had belonged to my .32 stoked .327 LCR, kinda funny how heavy I now find it in comparison. Trigger is heller smooth in comparison though.

I bought a pocket holster from a tlong17, but I'll be damned if I can remember the brand. Anyway, pocket carries much better (for me) than the Desantis I'd been using...still too big for actual amongst-the-populace pants pocket carry in anything I own. YPPMV...your pants pockets may vary.

JHC
05-06-2022, 01:27 PM
Ever since Rhett @Demonstrated Concepts appeared on my radar, I've been spending a lot more time with my .22 LCR and getting uber happy all over again about buying it. It had been relegated to a training tool and pocket carry on lawn days. Nowadays, when I get home, the Glock goes in the safe and the .22 LCR goes in my waistband.

That role had belonged to my .32 stoked .327 LCR, kinda funny how heavy I now find it in comparison. Trigger is heller smooth in comparison though.

I bought a pocket holster from a tlong17, but I'll be damned if I can remember the brand. Anyway, pocket carries much better (for me) than the Desantis I'd been using...still too big for actual amongst-the-populace pants pocket carry in anything I own. YPPMV...your pants pockets may vary.

Right there with ya. Range time with my 351C and 317 have gone so well, the 317 is lately my pre-dawn local cardio/run/rucking piece of late and around the hacienda. A rabid fox is probably my most probable adversary anyway. ;)

My 351C shipped yesterday to D&L for the J frame sight package.

Gun Mutt
05-07-2022, 05:45 AM
My ex's 351C is a stellar snubbie. Every time I handle it, I bemoan how poorly the Clipdraw worked for me on the LCR.

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jeep45238
05-07-2022, 09:16 AM
I'll be taking a class with FPF training in a few weeks, and am curious what people's observations are with different speedloaders for the LCR. I generally have a strip on me, but have found the HKS 36 binds badly about half way through (even with no grips on the frame), and the Safariland Comp series is unusable on the LCR (both meant for the J frame).

I have an oder for SpeedBeez, and know a lot of people like the 5 star speedloaders.

I'm am curious on people's luck with the Revision CV setup (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xd9i4YWj50w)

Gun Mutt
05-07-2022, 03:34 PM
I've the deepest respect for both JMack & Dark Star, but neither of their LCR offerings is working for me. Anyone have a Philster City Special they'd like to trade out for a long term test drive?

frozentundra
05-14-2022, 09:11 PM
I've the deepest respect for both JMack & Dark Star, but neither of their LCR offerings is working for me. Anyone have a Philster City Special they'd like to trade out for a long term test drive?

I'm curious what specifically isn't working for you? How do you think it may be improved?

I'm trying to decide between these holsters myself.

Gun Mutt
05-16-2022, 02:18 PM
I'm curious what specifically isn't working for you? How do you think it may be improved?

I'm trying to decide between these holsters myself.

Sorry for the slow response, crazy busy weekend.

I think it's important to note that after 10yrs of AIWB, my body started hating it, so I'm probably the wrong guy to listen to. I carry a Glock IWB Mon-Fri at work because my boss wants me armed and between the two of us, there are 15/17/22/33rd 9mm Glock mags everywhere. When I get home, the Glock goes in the safe and the .22 LCR gets tucked AIWB sans holster.

I have a hard time quantifying what doesn't work for me about the DSG for the LCR, especially since the DSG is my all time favorite j-frame holster I've ever used. Mind you Daryl Bolke loves the DSG for his LCR's and the P-F'er I sent mine to is really digging it at last report.

As for the JM Custom, there's not a damn thing wrong with it and Tony made me an exact copy of Clusterfrack's as requested. If/when I order another one, it'll be for a 3" barrel and set even lower on the belt line. It's still my goto for the LCR when I actually go anywhere, but it needs a wedge or Master Mind pillow to keep from tipping over my belt.

You won't have trouble selling either one on P-F, fwiw.

Clusterfrack
05-16-2022, 03:52 PM
I'm curious what specifically isn't working for you? How do you think it may be improved?

I'm trying to decide between these holsters myself.

I'm a DarkStar fan in general, and of course JM Custom as well.

My problem with the DSG Apollo is the huge sight channel that acts like a reverse wing claw and pushes the grip out. I also like holsters the same length as the gun, and prefer to use a ACP wedge to add length as needed.

Paul Blackburn
05-16-2022, 05:50 PM
These are a gem:


https://blade-tech.com/products/klipt-iwb-holster?variant=5870550745116

PNWTO
05-16-2022, 05:56 PM
These are a gem:


https://blade-tech.com/products/klipt-iwb-holster?variant=5870550745116

Is the clip mounted in way that a DCC clip could swap in?

frozentundra
05-16-2022, 06:36 PM
I'm a DarkStar fan in general, and of course JM Custom as well.

My problem with the DSG Apollo is the huge sight channel that acts like a reverse wing claw and pushes the grip out. I also like holsters the same length as the gun, and prefer to use a ACP wedge to add length as needed.

This is exactly what I've been thinking about. Somewhere I have an old Blade-Tech kydex holster for a S&W Shield. It was made from a thin gauge of kydex, and it was about as minimalist a design as possible. They have long since stopped making that model holster. I tried JM Custom, DarkStar and Custom Carry Concepts, but I have to admit that the cheap Blade-Tech was my favorite. It was so light and added no bulk. I should never have let my friend talk me into selling him that gun. I miss it.

The premium holsters are superior products--tougher and better made--but that simple, lightweight design just worked for me.

I'm going to order one of these Desantis Pegasus Slim-Tuks from Midway and see if it can hit the niche my old Blade-Tech holster did. They're on sale for like $23. I saw where a guy had installed a wing and metal DCC clip on his to replace the crappy plastic strut/clip. It looked about like what I'm after. This'll probably end up in my holster box of shamefully miscalculated resources, but I'm probably doomed to ride that train until the end of my days anyway.
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Paul Blackburn
05-16-2022, 06:36 PM
Is the clip mounted in way that a DCC clip could swap in?


No it’s a complete injection molded design. For the price it’s got really clean lines and conceals very well while still allowing for a good purchase on the grip.

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frozentundra
05-16-2022, 06:39 PM
Is the clip mounted in way that a DCC clip could swap in?

I believe that in an injection molded holster, and the clip is part of the mold. I have never been happy with plastic clips myself.

lee n. field
05-16-2022, 08:15 PM
This is exactly what I've been thinking about. Somewhere I have an old Blade-Tech kydex holster for a S&W Shield. It was made from a thin gauge of kydex, and it was about as minimalist a design as possible. They have long since stopped making that model holster.

Sounds like the Nano. Haunt Ebay, they can be found for not much money.

[quote]I tried JM Custom, DarkStar and Custom Carry Concepts, but I have to admit that the cheap Blade-Tech was my favorite. It was so light and added no bulk. I should never have let my friend talk me into selling him that gun. I miss it.

The premium holsters are superior products--tougher and better made--but that simple, lightweight design just worked for me.

I'm going to order one of these Desantis Pegasus Slim-Tuks from Midway and see if it can hit the niche my old Blade-Tech holster did. They're on sale for like $23. I saw where a guy had installed a wing and metal DCC clip on his to replace the crappy plastic strut/clip. It looked about like what I'm after. This'll probably end up in my holster box of shamefully miscalculated resources, but I'm probably doomed to ride that train until the end of my days anyway.


I bought a Slim-Tuk for my LCR, to hold me over while waiting for JM Custom to make my IWB. Was fine for that.

Kirk
05-17-2022, 03:13 PM
So I picked up my Rimfire Pistol Iron gun for Steel Challenge to go with my RFPO gun... a Ruger LCR in .22lr :D. Can someone give me a good idea of what breaks on these guns with a lot of dry fire? Any parts in particular I should stock up on? I have an idea on S&W revolvers from a prior thread a few years back thanks to Jetfire, but don't know much about what breaks on LCRs. This gun will see a good amount of dry fire but probably only 5-10k rounds per year.

jandbj
05-17-2022, 06:19 PM
So I picked up my Rimfire Pistol Iron gun for Steel Challenge to go with my RFPO gun... a Ruger LCR in .22lr :D. Can someone give me a good idea of what breaks on these guns with a lot of dry fire? Any parts in particular I should stock up on? I have an idea on S&W revolvers from a prior thread a few years back thanks to Jetfire, but don't know much about what breaks on LCRs. This gun will see a good amount of dry fire but probably only 5-10k rounds per year.

My bet is no parts needed. My LCR22 has been trouble free AF with lots of dry fire. Still using the plastic cylinder insert the gun came with for dry practice.

Rhett at Demostrated Concepts has probably live and dry fired the LCR22 more than anyone and I don’t recall of him mentioning any issues. RustyCrusty

I had no idea you could get the Rogers grip in colors. That looks slick! I have a plain black one inbound to try out.

Kirk
05-17-2022, 06:20 PM
My bet is no parts needed. My LCR22 has been trouble free AF with lots of dry fire. Still using the plastic cylinder insert the gun came with for dry practice.

Rhett at Demostrated Concepts has probably live and dry fired the LCR22 more than anyone and I don’t recall of him mentioning any issues.

I had no idea you could get the Rogers grip in colors. That looks slick!

Awesome, thanks so much for the info! And I had it cerakoted to match my 22/45 grip, but the Rogers are by far my favorites

RustyCrusty
05-19-2022, 12:17 PM
My bet is no parts needed. My LCR22 has been trouble free AF with lots of dry fire. Still using the plastic cylinder insert the gun came with for dry practice.

Rhett at Demostrated Concepts has probably live and dry fired the LCR22 more than anyone and I don’t recall of him mentioning any issues. RustyCrusty

I had no idea you could get the Rogers grip in colors. That looks slick! I have a plain black one inbound to try out.

No breakages yet. I use an empty cylinder to dry fire daily. Probably 20k on one and who knows how many more dry presses.

Kustom
05-19-2022, 01:57 PM
So I picked up my Rimfire Pistol Iron gun for Steel Challenge to go with my RFPO gun... a Ruger LCR in .22lr :D. Can someone give me a good idea of what breaks on these guns with a lot of dry fire? Any parts in particular I should stock up on? I have an idea on S&W revolvers from a prior thread a few years back thanks to Jetfire, but don't know much about what breaks on LCRs. This gun will see a good amount of dry fire but probably only 5-10k rounds per year.

Let use know how the LCR does in Steel Challenge.

tlong17
05-19-2022, 07:45 PM
Ever since Rhett @Demonstrated Concepts appeared on my radar, I've been spending a lot more time with my .22 LCR and getting uber happy all over again about buying it. It had been relegated to a training tool and pocket carry on lawn days. Nowadays, when I get home, the Glock goes in the safe and the .22 LCR goes in my waistband.

That role had belonged to my .32 stoked .327 LCR, kinda funny how heavy I now find it in comparison. Trigger is heller smooth in comparison though.

I bought a pocket holster from a tlong17, but I'll be damned if I can remember the brand. Anyway, pocket carries much better (for me) than the Desantis I'd been using...still too big for actual amongst-the-populace pants pocket carry in anything I own. YPPMV...your pants pockets may vary.

Mika holster! Great holster. Glad it’s working well for you.

Kirk
05-19-2022, 09:53 PM
This is exactly what I've been thinking about. Somewhere I have an old Blade-Tech kydex holster for a S&W Shield. It was made from a thin gauge of kydex, and it was about as minimalist a design as possible. They have long since stopped making that model holster. I tried JM Custom, DarkStar and Custom Carry Concepts, but I have to admit that the cheap Blade-Tech was my favorite. It was so light and added no bulk. I should never have let my friend talk me into selling him that gun. I miss it.

The premium holsters are superior products--tougher and better made--but that simple, lightweight design just worked for me.

I'm going to order one of these Desantis Pegasus Slim-Tuks from Midway and see if it can hit the niche my old Blade-Tech holster did. They're on sale for like $23. I saw where a guy had installed a wing and metal DCC clip on his to replace the crappy plastic strut/clip. It looked about like what I'm after. This'll probably end up in my holster box of shamefully miscalculated resources, but I'm probably doomed to ride that train until the end of my days anyway.
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Just bought one of these for $32 *shipped* with tax from Midway. This is a heck of deal. Even if the kydex is cheap quality, you can throw a DCC clip and Darkwing and have one heck of a setup.

frozentundra
05-20-2022, 12:09 AM
Just bought one of these for $32 *shipped* with tax from Midway. This is a heck of deal. Even if the kydex is cheap quality, you can throw a DCC clip and Darkwing and have one heck of a setup.

I received my DeSantis Slim-Tuk for LCR today. The basic form factor is nice, but the trigger guard area isn't up to my expectations, even at the low price point. It flexes inward around the trigger guard area quite a bit more than I've experienced with any other kydex holster. This requires me to wedge LCR trigger guard into that area to spread it out upon holstering. It creates an unnecessary amount of resistance.

Also, it seems the cylinder flutes on the 327 don't match the pattern molded into the holster. This may be causing some extra drag too.

It's not unusable, but I don't care for it personally. I'll use it until I find a replacement.

I'd like to try a Harry's Holsters Icon 2.0, but the new 2.0 version is apparently delayed for some months. I may just wait it out. JM and DarkStar both have quirks to their LCR designs that I'm not excited about for my purposes, and for some reason I've just never had luck with Philster products. My holster graveyard already has too much Philster gear buried there.

Kirk
05-20-2022, 12:15 AM
I received my DeSantis Slim-Tuk for LCR today. The basic form factor is nice, but the trigger guard area isn't up to my expectations, even at the low price point. It flexes inward around the trigger guard area quite a bit more than I've experienced with any other kydex holster. This requires me to wedge LCR trigger guard into that area to spread it out upon holstering. This creates an unnecessary amount of resistance.

Also, it seems the cylinder flutes on the 327 don't match the pattern molded into the holster. This may be causing some extra drag too.

It's not unusable, but I don't care for it personally. I'll use it until I find a replacement.

I'd like to try a Harry's Holsters Icon 2.0, but the new 2.0 version is apparently delayed for some months. I may just wait it out. JM and DarkStar both have quirks to their LCR designs that I'm not excited about for my purposes, and for some reason I've just never had luck with Philster products--my holster graveyard already has too much Philster gear buried there.

Well… this sucks. If mine is similar, it looks like both of our holster boxes just grew. Looks like I’ll be buying a City Special after all