Ruger LCR?

[Kirk]

Cheap SlimTuk (?) is in, added a DCC clip and it is okay. Putting some combat bands on it to improve retention soon, using rubber bands in the mean time because I like holsters to keep a pretty tight grip on the gun. It has a weird hole spacing, so could only screw in one of the DCC holes (phrasing?), but it is still solid. Added Velcro on the back of the DCC clip and holster to act as a second strut. I’m used to this weird spacing and retention from knives, so I know some hacks to get it to work. For $32 shipped it isn’t too bad.

[DiscipulusArmorum]

How much heavier/worse is the trigger on the .22 LCR vs the .327?

[PNWTO]

How much heavier/worse is the trigger on the .22 LCR vs the .327?

Totally subjective on my end, without measuring, but I'd say the .22 is noticeably firmer but not enough so that I can't swap between the .22 and centerfire guns and need to think about it. FWIW. Definitely not as heavy as one of the S&W rimfires.

I also feel as if the reset of the .22 LCR has more emphasis behind it, similar to a fresh rebound spring in a J. I'm fairly broken in to the LCRs now but initially I felt I hit the false reset at speed more frequently with the .38 LCR.

[jeep45238]

How much heavier/worse is the trigger on the .22 LCR vs the .327?

I'm still waiting on my 22LR LCR, but speaking from J frames - the trigger pull is firmer, but it is far from a limiting factor in capability of the total package. It comes from a heavier hammer spring to increase the odds of ignition in rimfire ammunition.

[Kirk]

So I picked up my Rimfire Pistol Iron gun for Steel Challenge to go with my RFPO gun... a Ruger LCR in .22lr :D. Can someone give me a good idea of what breaks on these guns with a lot of dry fire? Any parts in particular I should stock up on? I have an idea on S&W revolvers from a prior thread a few years back thanks to Jetfire, but don't know much about what breaks on LCRs. This gun will see a good amount of dry fire but probably only 5-10k rounds per year.

Quick update: I sold out and bought an Alfa Proj .22lr today for SCSA since I’d like to make a run at GM in my lifetime :D. Back to regular LCR discussion.

[RevolverRob]

Offensive Industries has a fairly minimalist LCR holster: https://violenceismandatory.com/skeletor-lcr-38-holster/

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[Clusterfrack]

Offensive Industries has a fairly minimalist LCR holster: https://violenceismandatory.com/skeletor-lcr-38-holster/
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“Skeletor” LOL!

[Trukinjp13]

Alabama holsters pocket rig.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220627/ec405896e7fc144724272bf258fcd389.jpg

Picked up a rogers grip for it. Going to cut them down and glass is. See how I like that, but they do not look too much thinner than these Hogues.


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[Hideeho]

Here's a minimalist holster that differs from the current hard body holsters. The body facing side protects against sweat. The outward facing side is open for comfort. This is a variation of a holster I carried in NY some 40 years ago. The original was a loop to stop the frame from slipping down attached to a thin metal strip covered in plastic that extended up to a belt clip. It's the next best thing to no holster at all.

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[BN]

91091

This is 48 rounds from my LCR 22lr. Mostly old Thunderbolts. 8 rounds of Winchester in the 555 pack and 8 rounds of old Wildcats, all from 18 yards.

Hits were centered except for the Wildcats which hit high, left.

I had difficult extraction when I got the LCR where nothing would extract without pushing the rod against a hard object. I sent it back to Ruger where they replaced the cylinder. Now, only some ammo is hard to eject. Quality ammo like Velocitor and Mini Mags are hard to eject and cheap stuff like Thunderbolts eject easily.

I really want this gun to work with all ammo so I'm going to use a finish reamer on it as soon as I can find one.

[ekrauos]

Here is my pocket holster design

I call it " the costanza "

https://youtu.be/O96I6BQL2BM

[Up1911Fan]

Has anyone had the cylinder on the 22lr reamed to 22WMR? It seems ridiculous that the 22 mag is only 6 shots while the LR is 8.

[jandbj]

Has anyone had the cylinder on the 22lr reamed to 22WMR? It seems ridiculous that the 22 mag is only 6 shots while the LR is 8.

I doubt you could fit 8 22WMR case heads in that same space. S&W barely fits 7 in the 351 cylinder.

[ekrauos]

The hogue laser grips are slightly taller to than the regular hogues. Which means if your two fingers fit the regular ones perfect (and your pinky curls up at the bottom); your pinky will be about half way on the laser version, and the finger groove will be stabbing the ring finger. Solution, a modification of demonstrated concepts idea, using sugru glue. Now it is a three finger grip, but only slightly taller than a two finger. Seems to provide better stability during dry fire.
Assume it is more painfull now as my hand is riding above the tamer area, solution to that is shoot 22. Range test this week.

Last picture is hand position before the modification.

[L-2]

https://sugru.com/
Thanks for the "Sugru" suggestion. I'd not heard of this product before.

[Sal Picante]

Sugru is AWESOME!

[Hizzie]

I broke down and ordered a LCR22. Probably gonna go the Phlster Enigma Express route.

[Buckshot]

Has anyone had the cylinder on the 22lr reamed to 22WMR? It seems ridiculous that the 22 mag is only 6 shots while the LR is 8.

I looked VERY HARD at doing this - I believe the rim diameter of 22WMR is enough greater than the LR to make it a no-go. Those 8 holes are really close together on the LR version. However, Ruger could easily go 7 magnums and use the alloy subframe rather than the steel one. It's alittle known thing that SAAMI max pressures are identical for LR & WMR ammo. If the LCR is safe with 8 LRs in alloy, its certainly strong enough for 7 or 8 magnums.

[ekrauos]

In a 2" barrel, the WMR has negligible increase in velocity compared to .22lr. For 2" barrel Just use 22lr, punch or velocitors.

[joker581]

I broke down and ordered a LCR22. Probably gonna go the Phlster Enigma Express route.

I’ve had one for a couple of weeks in a Phlster City Special. I love it and shoot it well enough that I’ve given some serious thought to replacing the 642 that I occasionally carry(and don’t shoot particularly well) with it.

[Doc_Glock]

I broke down and ordered a LCR22. Probably gonna go the Phlster Enigma Express route.

I think you will love this.

[willie]

I doubt you could fit 8 22WMR case heads in that same space. S&W barely fits 7 in the 351 cylinder.

Oddly, the magnum round's additional pressure might be the reason. Ruger will not chamber their cheaper Wrangler model for WMR because it's frame will not tolerate the magnum pressure. My theory is that the underside of the top strap near the barrel can not withstand damage from heat and flash. S&W had a similar issue with the magnum round in the Kit Gun J frame many years ago.

[awp_101]

Has anyone had the cylinder on the 22lr reamed to 22WMR? It seems ridiculous that the 22 mag is only 6 shots while the LR is 8.


I doubt you could fit 8 22WMR case heads in that same space. S&W barely fits 7 in the 351 cylinder.

FWIW I noticed not long ago Ruger has the Single 10 in .22LR but the .22WMR is a Single 9.

[awp_101]

So there’s a greater than zero chance I’m going to end up with a .38 LCR soon™️. Given my primary use case for a .38 snub is pocket carry, I’m thinking G10 for grips.

Anyone have thoughts, ideas or experience in this area?

[TheNewbie]

So there’s a greater than zero chance I’m going to end up with a .38 LCR soon™️. Given my primary use case for a .38 snub is pocket carry, I’m thinking G10 for grips.

Anyone have thoughts, ideas or experience in this area?


I’m not a big guy but I can pocket carry my LCRx with a speed strip. However, it’s right on the edge of being too big for pocket carry with me. A smaller set of grips would be a big improvement, but in the case of the LCRx, that would mean modifying a set of grips.


Weight wise there is no issue.

[Jason M]

So there’s a greater than zero chance I’m going to end up with a .38 LCR soon™️. Given my primary use case for a .38 snub is pocket carry, I’m thinking G10 for grips.

Anyone have thoughts, ideas or experience in this area?

I have pocket carried J frames for a long time. The pocket is their exclusive role. If belt carrying, I have a G26 etc… A couple of years ago I purchased 3 LCRs. .38 as the carry piece, .22 and a .357 to use as sub-caliber/heavier trainers. Even with smaller grips, I was unable to make them work for my pockets. This was with clothing that worked very well with the J frames. There are some definite bonuses to the LCR’s but I was unable to make them work from the pocket. I think that the J frames are just a little more svelte is the right places. The LCR’s always seem to print despite the use of different holsters.

[TheNewbie]

I have pocket carried J frames for a long time. The pocket is their exclusive role. If belt carrying, I have a G26 etc… A couple of years ago I purchased 3 LCRs. .38 as the carry piece, .22 and a .357 to use as sub-caliber/heavier trainers. Even with smaller grips, I was unable to make them work for my pockets. This was with clothing that worked very well with the J frames. There are some definite bonuses to the LCR’s but I was unable to make them work from the pocket. I think that the J frames are just a little more svelte is the right places. The LCR’s always seem to print despite the use of different holsters.


If S&W made J frames with external hammers and no locks, I would not give the LCR a second thought. Even though it has some real advantages, the J frame is just enough smaller to make a real difference pocket carry wise.


I’ve been carrying the LCR in a JM Custom OWB. Works great and carried well even when I was clearing cut down trees and loading them onto a trailer in crazy heat for hours at a time.

[awp_101]

Thanks, after handling an LCRx yesterday and mentally comparing it to my 442 I thought it was going to be borderline for pocket carry which is why I started looking for something to reduce the grip size. I prefer and trust new production Rugers over S&Ws but it looks like another 442 will be in my future when this trade happens. At least a replacement 442 won't require a new holster...

[jlw]

I picked up an LCR in .327 and put the Rogers grips on it. I test fired it today with some .32 Long Magtech wadcutters from Lucky Gunner. At the moment, I am forced to shoot as a lefty due to having surgery a few weeks ago on my right hand. I fired these at 3-yard lefty only. I fired another group from seven had shots hitting several inches below POA.

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/307265276_2183960291807346_6463766567256589857_n.j pg?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=a26aad&_nc_ohc=UpKejYKzt2gAX_RyDOT&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-1.xx&oh=00_AT9zjwQgDgJdwvjITAqAZEnCX-R4GfxXLknZpDRfNyUkJg&oe=63297763

[Hizzie]

I found that the “tabs” cause some problems with some holsters. They require some grinding to fit the Phlster City Special for sure.

[jlw]

I found that the “tabs” cause some problems with some holsters. They require some grinding to fit the Phlster City Special for sure.


Good to know as I bought an Enigma Express for it.

[Hizzie]

Good to know as I bought an Enigma Express for it.

That’s what I bought. Easy fix with a little patience.

I enjoy your podcasts!

[jlw]

That’s what I bought. Easy fix with a little patience.

I enjoy your podcasts!

I don't need patience. I have a Dremel.

[jeep45238]

Good to know as I bought an Enigma Express for it.

I've actually found that I mine with Rogers fit without any modification for the Express. It was ordered recently, so there may have been updates recently to accommodate it.

Thanks for the podcasts you do!

[Rex G]

If you were to buy a Ruger LCR for primary conceal carry,and also shoot every month to stay very proficient which one would you buy,and why?

To “shoot every month,” I would choose the .22 LR version. My S&W K-Frame Model 17-4, .22 LR, has been my most-fired revolver, since the Nineties. The ammo is less expensive, and the negligible recoil is kinder to aging body parts.

I will not know about the “primary conceal carry” part, until I have acquired one, and done considerable training with it. Moreover, “primary” is an inexact term, with me, because I consider my right hand to be what normally reaches for the “primary” weapon, but my healthier left hand may have a more-powerful and/or more-capable weapon, positioned for lefty access. If one is not functionally ambidextrous, well, one is not trying hard enough. ;)

Edited to add: Actually, I am left-handed, but right-armed. So, I reckon that gave me a head start, in working to become ambidextrous.

[Hizzie]

I've actually found that I mine with Rogers fit without any modification for the Express. It was ordered recently, so there may have been updates recently to accommodate it.

Thanks for the podcasts you do!

Oh mine “fit” in the holster. It didn’t click in like it should’ve as the shell is so spread. My Rogers Grips and City Special are both recent production.

[jeep45238]

Oh mine “fit” in the holster. It didn’t click in like it should’ve as the shell is so spread. My Rogers Grips and City Special are both recent production.

Interesting. We’ve fit recent productions of each with different results. I wonder if the 22lr vs 38 is the culprit for some reason.

[jlw]

One of the 3" LCRx in .327 would be a fun option. I wish they could produce an 8-shooter .22 WRM.

I foresee a 3" LCRx in .22LR with the Rogers grips in my future.

[Gun Mutt]

I found that the “tabs” cause some problems with some holsters. They require some grinding to fit the Phlster City Special for sure.

Thank you! I couldn't figure out why my .22 LCR locks into my Philster so tightly while my Rogers stocked .32 does not. Dremel time is nigh, those tabs don't find any purchase on my waistband anyway.

[BobM]

To “shoot every month,” I would choose the .22 LR version. My S&W K-Frame Model 17-4, .22 LR, has been my most-fired revolver, since the Nineties. The ammo is less expensive, and the negligible recoil is kinder to aging body parts.

I will not know about the “primary conceal carry” part, until I have acquired one, and done considerable training with it. Moreover, “primary” is an inexact term, with me, because I consider my right hand to be what normally reaches for the “primary” weapon, but my healthier left hand may have a more-powerful and/or more-capable weapon, positioned for lefty access. If one is not functionally ambidextrous, well, one is not trying hard enough. ;)

Edited to add: Actually, I am left-handed, but right-armed. So, I reckon that gave me a head start, in working to become ambidextrous.

I’m left handed also, but handguns have always felt more natural in my right hand. Maybe because there weren’t left handed cap gun holsters in the early 70s. I write, bat, throw, and shoot long guns left handed.

[Hizzie]

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[Paul Blackburn]

p/CipwoF8rn9M

I did not know what those tabs were for.

Thanks for that detail!

[DiscipulusArmorum]

I jumped on the LCR .22 bandwagon and bought a used one off Gunbroker. Not sure what I'm ultimate going to use it for, but if nothing else, this gun plus Claude Werner's online snubby course seemed like a nice inexpensive intro to the snub-nosed lifestyle.

[Gun Mutt]

I've really, really come to love my .22 LCR, just handles, points & carries so superbly...even better than my .32 Long (ok, a .327, but it's stoked with the Buffalo Bore .32's that Daryl Bolke likes so much.) I go to the range yesterday and in the first 5 rounds, the trigger stops returning forward on it's own. WTF? It's either got a helluva miscellaneous piece of debris in the trigger mechanism or a broken spring.

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad I learned this at the range, but gotdammit, I carried that thing the day before loaded with Federal Punch as my defensive weapon while I spent the day with my 5yr old son at various events. Ruger says you can dry fire their .22LR revolvers at will, so I do so at least twice a week, never even had a glitch. Now it locks up in dry fire, too. And I've got less than 2k rounds through it!

Fekkin bent.

[ekrauos]

Gun mutt, that is a bummer. Let us know what Ruger finds !

I have a .22 lcr on layaway right now..

[willie]

My .22 LCR was a good performer, one that I regret trading for something else. LCR anything is good.

[momano]

Gun Mutt, did you do the hammer/hammer pivot pin lubrication? I am pretty neglectful (usually) of these kind of maintenance chores- but I'll mend my ways if this is what the consequence is...

[WilsonCQB1911]

I'm finding I don't get the accuracy I expect from the 22 LCR. My 327 one is a laser beam. The 22 one gives me some not insignificant vertical stringing. I figured it was me and really tried to hone in on my technique but now I'm fairly convinced it's the gun or ammo combination. I'm also wondering if the short barrel is having a hard time stabilizing the rounds? Anybody else having trouble?

Maybe I expect too much from these little guns but I can hit a 4" circle at 25 yards with my 327 LCR with magnum rounds. It's an amazing little gun. The 22 LCR is more like a 4" gun at 10 yards. I find it a bit frustrating to shoot.

[ekrauos]

Wilson, what kind of .22 ammo is giving you 4" groups at 10 yards?

[WilsonCQB1911]

Wilson, what kind of .22 ammo is giving you 4" groups at 10 yards?


I've tried a few. Norma Tac and Aguila 38 grn.

[PNWTO]

I've tried a few. Norma Tac and Aguila 38 grn.

While I haven’t tried those in my LCR, I have noticed those particular loads really like rifles; when the barrel gets shorter you start to think it’s odd that Eastern Europe is selling ammo under license.

With Punch and Mini-Mags my LCR will consistently deliver 85+ on a B8 @25yds, albeit the POI/POA is adjusted for on my end.

[Gun Mutt]

Gun Mutt, did you do the hammer/hammer pivot pin lubrication? I am pretty neglectful (usually) of these kind of maintenance chores- but I'll mend my ways if this is what the consequence is...

Winner, winner, chicken dinner! And to my great shame, I was clueless this was even an issue. Glocks & AK's have spoiled me into being something less than meticulous in my gun care. I gave the barely fired .22 a cursory cleaning that night, staring at it dumbly, wondering where hell the slide plate was... meh, a mystery for another time, I've got a schedule to keep.

Into the safe it goes, .32 takes over snub duty. Next day I search for a disassembly video to smarten me and fail to find one specific to the .22, but I did learn that I was going to need the correct size driver to take out the ubiquitous screw at the top of the frame, right? Right?!? I spent the week sizing every damn driver I could find in the .32 with no joy. Until Friday. Giddy, I rush in to make sure it fits the .22 and come face to face with my own ignorance...there is no spoon...there's also no fucking screw at the top of the frame on the .22, and yeah, it stung, as it should have.

One of my best friends is extremely mechanically inclined and has been inside many S&W revolvers. He invites me to bring it over Sat morning and by the time I arrive he's deduced the problem and is waiting with the proper size punch. He'd not found any .22 specific disassembly vids either, but he had, you know, looked up the owners manual and actually read it.

In less than 5min, he's got it running like a top. I dry fired a bunch that night & the next day fired 8 cylinders of range junk and 2 cylinders of Punch. The cheap ammo prints centered, but a smidge high at 15yds, the Punch is dead on, my little eyeball shooter is back in rotation.

Don't be a shovel fucker like me & gloss this apparently very important tidbit:

95666

[Up1911Fan]

Have a .327 and a set of lasergrips inbound from two different members. An Enigma is also inbound along with practice and carry ammo in 38 Long. Excited to start messing around with this, haven't owned an LCR in 10 years.

[ekrauos]

Winner, winner, chicken dinner! And to my great shame, I was clueless this was even an issue. Glocks & AK's have spoiled me into being something less than meticulous in my gun care. I gave the barely fired .22 a cursory cleaning that night, staring at it dumbly, wondering where hell the slide plate was... meh, a mystery for another time, I've got a schedule to keep.

Into the safe it goes, .32 takes over snub duty. Next day I search for a disassembly video to smarten me and fail to find one specific to the .22, but I did learn that I was going to need the correct size driver to take out the ubiquitous screw at the top of the frame, right? Right?!? I spent the week sizing every damn driver I could find in the .32 with no joy. Until Friday. Giddy, I rush in to make sure it fits the .22 and come face to face with my own ignorance...there is no spoon...there's also no fucking screw at the top of the frame on the .22, and yeah, it stung, as it should have.

One of my best friends is extremely mechanically inclined and has been inside many S&W revolvers. He invites me to bring it over Sat morning and by the time I arrive he's deduced the problem and is waiting with the proper size punch. He'd not found any .22 specific disassembly vids either, but he had, you know, looked up the owners manual and actually read it.

In less than 5min, he's got it running like a top. I dry fired a bunch that night & the next day fired 8 cylinders of range junk and 2 cylinders of Punch. The cheap ammo prints centered, but a smidge high at 15yds, the Punch is dead on, my little eyeball shooter is back in rotation.

Don't be a shovel fucker like me & gloss this apparently very important tidbit:

95666

Hehe good to know. Just picked up my 22 yesterday, shot it today. It might print a bit to the left, or it may be my weak ass hand trying to pull the heavier 22 trigger. My 10 year old 357 lcr is butter smooth, this new 22 is crunchy and heavy, I'll put a drop of oil on the hammer pin ;). Either way, my daughter won't shoot 38s, but she will shoot 22s :)

[TheNewbie]

Picked up a Hogue Bantam boot grip for my LCRx. This is listed as not fitting the LCRx, but it's on my LCRx right now.


It turns the gun into a DAO because it interferes with hammer in SA. This is fine with me because I prefer a DAO revolver anyway. I checked the double action pull and could see not interferences with double action pull.


I have been carrying it in a blade tech klipt holster AIWB today. This is the first time I have AIWB, and it is carrying well in this cheap holster. Now it's time to find a proper AIWB holster for this thing.

[Up1911Fan]

If anyone has one of the bantam boot grips they're not using and want to sell, I'd like to try a pair.

[ekrauos]

9669796698

I.have a bantam, it has been dremeled, and hoge handball added to it.

I have other items as well, if people would like to try them out .

[jandbj]

9669796698

I.have a bantam, it has been dremeled, and hoge handball added to it.

I have other items as well, if people would like to try them out .

Interested in hearing about the boot/handball combo

[ekrauos]

The regular bantam grip slides up out of the hand when hands are sweaty, but it is nice and small, prints less at the butt of the grip. Major dremeling right under the trigger guard helps make it stay in hand by locking with the middle finger. The handball grip adds to that affect, and fills the palms. It feels good, and draws quicker from the pocket (because of plastic sides and rounded bottom of grip). It does change the natural pointing a bit.

[Ndbbm]

The regular bantam grip slides up out of the hand when hands are sweaty, but it is nice and small, prints less at the butt of the grip. Major dremeling right under the trigger guard helps make it stay in hand by locking with the middle finger. The handball grip adds to that affect, and fills the palms. It feels good, and draws quicker from the pocket (because of plastic sides and rounded bottom of grip). It does change the natural pointing a bit.

I wrapped a little bit of rock tape around my bantam grips and find that it helps and it hasn’t been an issue catching on clothing.

Jason

[Gun Mutt]

If you visit the G26 gen5 thread, you'll find plenty of references to what we've come to ubiquitously refer to as GAP Tape. I put it on everything now. Completely changed my impression of the Bantam grip.

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[D-der]

My lightly used LCR .38 landed a week ago, so far I've
run some Federal 158gr LSWC, S&B 158gr TMJ and
Federal 148 GM WC.
The 158 Federal's shoot pretty well, a little high, the
S&B's are stout, group well about 3" high at 10 yds
and the wad cutter's shoot pretty much dead nut's poa,
7 out of 10 inside 2" with 3 flyer's opened it up to 5" @ 10 yd's.
Considering I've been stuck on auto loader's for the
last 20 + year's I'm good with that so far.
Red dot's have spoiled me, I think I'm gonna try a
Hi Viz or XS sight sooner than later.
I definitely see the trigger reset difference is real but,
neat little wheel gun.

[Willard]

...with practice and carry ammo in 38 Long.

So, 38 long works in the .327?

[Up1911Fan]

So, 38 long works in the .327?

.32 long does.

[Willard]

.32 long does.

Thanks. Was tracking that and saw 38 long & was wondering if I missed something. Understand you meant 32 long and not 38. Thanks.

[ekrauos]

My LCR journey has lasted 10 years so far

lcr 357 has been carried since 2012, with speer gold dot sb 357 135gr hp. recently (due to ammo shortage) it has been carried with federal american eagle .38 spl 130gr ball.

more recently, transitioned to .22lr. within a few trips to the range, the gun will pay for itself due to the less expensive ammo.
i have shot more with this .22lr gun in two months than i have in years with the .38.
I started doing pin shooting with this .22, as I can actually afford it.
dry firing is good and helps, and it has helped when all i had was the 357. but getting the the range, and not breaking the bank helps too. the 22 LCR is the tool for the task. I am now of the mindset that this will be the only pistol I own and shoot, but I will shoot it very well.

things tried
sights:
stock
XS big dot
williams fiber optic

Grips:
stock
stock with finger grooves dremeled down
stock with spray paint
original crimson trace laser grips (the small ones)
rogers enhanced grips (shaved down to two fingers)
bantam grip, stock, and dremeled out ring finger groove, added hogue handall jr
hogue laser grips
hogue laser grips with sugru added to enable three finger grip

And this is the final setup, for me anyways, after trying many different sights and grips.

LCR22
stock sight. white stripe is easy to pick up, the the sight profile is cleanest, can make hits on 10x10" plate at 50 yards supported.
stock grips (no dremeling!). That flair between pinky and ring finger actually does something for control (for me anyway) it seems. Tiny grips may conceal easier, but larger grips provide traction for stable grip during the trigger press, and recoil (yes, even .22lr recoils enough to where grips and hand strength matters). For me these grips give best trigger control, best "pick the gun up off a table" speed, best greasy wet hand control. Only con is they print slightly more than bantam, but the bantams still print more than nothing ;)
federal punch. this will be both practice and carry ammo. cheaper than .38 or 9mm ball. No need to learn differnt POA/POI for different ammo types, it will always be the same, only one ammo type! This is available to order direct from federal website BTW!
lasermax laser. not necessary, i do not depend on it, and only practice with it maybe 30% of the time, it is to be used for HD only, when there is time to activate it.

Another nice thing about actually liking a stock gun, is it no big deal to replace it with a clone (when/if the time comes).

Look at my older posts for thoughts on the other grips.
But here is something new i learned.
The stock grip on the LCR is actually very well designed, and it plays a part in the perceived light weight of the trigger pull. It on purpose puts the gun higher in your hand, giving the pointer finger maximum leverage on the trigger.
On the LCR with stock grips, the trigger fingers has a almost strait pull = maximum leverage.
Look at a stock smith and wesson, the grip allows the middle finger to ride behind the trigger guard, getting the hand high on the grip, this then forces the pointer finger to angle downwards = reduced leverage.



For any newcomers to LCR
please check out Demonstrated Concepts on youtube
He has videos on 22 vs other calibers
22lr ammo durability
laser types and zeroing
federal punch performance
holster types
LCR cleaning tutorial (this one is really good, for newcomers and "veterans" alike!)

Here is one of his many LCR vids
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imw81O6kZPM&t=55s


for me the LCR is really part of my EDC journey as well. and always striving for maximum capability and efficiency has let me to this setup, shown in this non public youtube video.
video is older, before i had the LCR 22
https://youtu.be/O96I6BQL2BM


pictures for fun
custom (by me) holster
speed beez speedloader for the night stand
RASC (revolver ammunition strip carrier) for the weak hand pocket

[jandbj]

Just got this today… Novaks sights installed by a local-ish gunsmith. I bought the sights from Novaks a few months back. Looking like my trip to MA to get the work done was worth it!

Need a range trip to confirm regulation of them.

[jandbj]

Had the LCR22 done too. This one isn’t as low… seeing if the original LCR38 front sight is tall enough to work. Range trip soon to check em both out.

[Up1911Fan]

Nice, looking forward to hearing if they shoot POA/POI. I've been seriously thinking about sending my 327 to Novaks for the sights.

[jandbj]

Nice, looking forward to hearing if they shoot POA/POI. I've been seriously thinking about sending my 327 to Novaks for the sights.

When I spoke to Novaks a few months back they said they weren’t doing them at the time. It is a standard .330x65* dovetail. But some material on the top strap needs to be removed behind the cut. My guy did it by careful measuring and looked at Novak’s pics of their LCR build.

[Gun Mutt]

When I'm home for the night, the Glock goes into the safe & the .22 LCR gets tucked in my waistband. A couple of weeks ago, I took the Rogers grip off my .32 LCR and put them on the .22 just for the hell of it. As I'd hoped, it added a little stability to my nightly holsterless carry.

The Bantam grips from the .22 went on the .32 purely out of convenience. I'd thought the heavier .32 would be a little squirmy with the Bantams, but to my surprise the weight actually settles the little grip quite nicely in my hand. I'm gonna have to get another set for the .22 as these are staying right where they are.

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My firing grip:

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[Hizzie]

p/CrT5zSVPoAl

[CLaw]

This is a long thread, so I apologize if I missed this. Is it okay to dry-fire the .22 LCR? And, what is the .22 LCR recoil like?

[Gun Mutt]

p/CrT5zSVPoAl


I've shot a lot of pistols with red dots...I absolutely never cared about them until just now!

[Gun Mutt]

This is a long thread, so I apologize if I missed this. Is it okay to dry-fire the .22 LCR? And, what is the .22 LCR recoil like?

My search-fu sucks, but short answer is yes. I've posted about my learning this and even calling Ruger to have a factory rep confirm it, but I don't know where that is. As for this recoil thing you speak of, it's a non-issue. Trigger pull is stout, but it's a damn fun revolver to shoot and one of the best training tools for shooting all other pistols I've ever had in my range bag...or pocket...or ankle, but it's always around.

[ekrauos]

p/CrT5zSVPoAl

This is exciting!!!!!!

[LtDave]

Well, it is green and not blue but Cold Steel has a rubber model of an LCR available. It was just under $20 shipped direct from Cold Steel.
Very well made.

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[Jamie]

I didn't even know I needed a Blue Gun LCR until you posted this LtDave . Thank you!

I have been heavily P-F influence as regards LCR's. My .38 spl LCR was my first and it's my "always have a gun, gun" and rides either in my waistband or an A Holster strong side pocket daily.
I've added a .22 LCR and a .327 LCR along the way. I shoot my .38 LCR at least once, generally twice, a week along with either the .22 or .327. I handload, so it's a huge plus.
My 509'd G19 is my primary but my LCR is a constant.

My biggest concern is I don't know the "life expectancy" of a .38 LCR. I don't keep a round count record, probably should, but I know I have between 3-4K of .38's through it so far. It's tight and the BC gap is unchanged. I'm actually looking for a 2nd .38 LCR locally.

Anyone have any idea as to a .38 LCR life/round expectancy? I know, there's no crystal balls out there.

The outdoor range I belong to has steel set up for, usually, one week per month.

Below is a pic from the other day after I finished chronoing some rounds on another bay.

I'm able to run the 5 steel 5 for 5 about 90% of the time, 95% if I just slow down...but heck, you could probably time me with a sundial anyway... :)

The steel ranges from about 7 yards to 30 yards. Even at my age I get a big grin out of shooting steel.

ETA: I use the same grip Gun Mutt demonstrated in his photo earlier. Love those bantam grips! Very comfortable and controllable.

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[Gun Mutt]

I grabbed one of the CS green LCR's last time someone posted about them being on sale, love it! (But not brave enough to dremel the grip area to better approximate the Bantams.)

[BN]

I grabbed one of the CS green LCR's last time someone posted about them being on sale, love it! (But not brave enough to dremel the grip area to better approximate the Bantams.)

Go ahead. Do it. Then let me know if I can do mine. ;)

I had to put some Sugru on the button on mine so I could activate the laser.

[ekrauos]

Make a green gun without grips. Then we can add any grips must like on a normal lcr.

[D-der]

I'm liking the LCR 38 for it's given purpose but, ammo is pricey and can be scarce. I'm considering a 9mm, ammo's 1/2 the price better ballistics in a small revolver and I stock plenty, is there a general consensus on what ammunition / weight shoots to POA in a LCR 9mm ?

[frozentundra]

I'm liking the LCR 38 for it's given purpose but, ammo is pricey and can be scarce. I'm considering a 9mm, ammo's 1/2 the price better ballistics in a small revolver and I stock plenty, is there a general consensus on what ammunition / weight shoots to POA in a LCR 9mm ?



After my conversation with Bill Rogers, I would say without question the 9mm LCR. He told me that the .22 and 9mm LCR revolvers shoot POA/POI at 25 yards, where the .38 models (the school has 12) shoot high and left. Further, he said he can reload the 9mm LCR closer in speed to a semi-auto than a revolver. He has designed proper stocks (grips to some people) for them as well as very trim moon clip holders. It is his current BUG.


lawnguy, between moon clips and other considerations, I suspect the LCR 9mm may be more of a niche handgun than a first choice as a primary.

For those that are interested, I spoke to Bill Rogers again today. In a Rogers School intro course, they have two relays of six, with twelve total LCR 9mm revolvers on the line. Depending upon student progress, they shoot between 6,000 and 10,000 rounds a week long class through their school LCR 9mm revolvers (Rogers provides all guns, ammo and equipment for the intro class.) They run 147 grain ammo through the LCR revolvers and have had zero problems with bullet set back. In his BUG LCR, Bill only has run standard velocity 9mm ammo, and has had no problems with setback. He has not tested 9mm +P ammo, and has no information on setback. I asked him about favorite loads, and he just had no preference, saying he planned to shoot the head, and didn't think it would matter as long as it penetrated. I don't think is unique to the LCR, as I have never known Bill to be concerned about this or that load, just speed/accuracy, and proper POA/POI, and let shot placement take care of that.

I asked him about benchmark data between the LCR 9mm and the M&P 9 FS from the school test. He said because of the difference in capacity and how they run the different tests, he didn't have directly comparable data. He said that his criteria for a BUG are best filled by pocket carry of a revolver. He mentioned a shape that would not snag when drawn from the pocket and safety of the longer, heavier revolver trigger. He also said he found the LCR 9 to be a softer shooting revolver than a lightweight J frame. He gushed about how quickly it could be reloaded. Back to bullet placement, he again remarked how he could hit the head plate at 20 yards easily with the LCR, with well regulated sights out of the box.

[Paul Blackburn]

How is the a LCR 9mm recoil compared to a LCR .38 recoil?

[D-der]

Thanks, I've read every post in this thread as it's gone along and then some, and considerably more, just curious if 124gr vs 147 varies poi @ 5-15yds, is one bullet weight found to shoot more directly to poa.

[frozentundra]

Thanks, I've read every post in this thread as it's gone along and then some, and considerably more, just curious if 124gr vs 147 varies poi @ 5-15yds, is one bullet weight found to shoot more directly to poa.

I've also followed the thread over the course of nearly 7 years. It gets hard to recall everything. I want to say that I recall people posting that the 147s are generally the most well regulated out of the 9mm LCR, but that may be a total confabulation on my part at this point. I did remember that GJM had talked with Rogers about his school's LCR experience, and that they preferred 147, so I just wanted to quickly shuffle that info back to the top as it seemed relevant. Rogers info is nice because they were running a dozen guns through a heavy firing schedule. I wonder if they are still running 9mm LCRs at Rogers?

My fuzzy memory is that some were finding 147 grains to be the best balance of recoil impulse and POA/POI.

Hopefully others will chime in with their more recent individual experiences. I'm also curious myself.

[D-der]

I've also followed the thread over the course of nearly 7 years. It gets hard to recall everything. I want to say that I recall people posting that the 147s are generally the most well regulated out of the 9mm LCR, but that may be a total confabulation on my part at this point. I did remember that GJM had talked with Rogers about his school's LCR experience, and that they preferred 147, so I just wanted to quickly shuffle that info back to the top as it seemed relevant. Rogers info is nice because they were running a dozen guns through a heavy firing schedule. I wonder if they are still running 9mm LCRs at Rogers?

My fuzzy memory is that some were finding 147 grains to be the best balance of recoil impulse and POA/POI.

Hopefully others will chime in with their more recent individual experiences. I'm also curious myself.

I hear ya on fuzzy memory!, I guess another relevant question might be, is recoil induced bullet pull with quality 147 ammunition a valid carry concern if only cycled the original loading (1 time around) ?

[jtcarm]

Since you have something in mind, what is your definition of proficient? Hard Wired has revolver standards, that perhaps Darryl or Wayne can post up.

https://www.activeresponsetraining.net/hardwired-tactical-snubby-super-test

I wouldn’t claim proficiency until you can do it from the leather.

[D-der]

I've been working on the 5-5-5 drill, having to hold a little high right, kind of screws me up... I guess the precision of nothing but a red dot for 2-3 years has spoiled me.

[frozentundra]

I hear ya on fuzzy memory!, I guess another relevant question might be, is recoil induced bullet pull with quality 147 ammunition a valid carry concern if only cycled the original loading (1 time around) ?

I think in the GJM quote above regarding Rogers school, he was probably using the term "setback" in place of "bullet pull" for some reason. If Rogers wasn't having problems with bullet pull in tens of thousands of rounds of beginner classes using 147s, I think it's likely one could find a standard pressure load that will handle 5 shots. Although, it's certainly something to vet and keep an eye on!

I wish I would have purchased a 9mm instead of a .327. The .32 family is really fun to shoot, but I always have thousands of rounds of 9mm, and factory .32 H&R has pretty much dried up. I can't currently source a replacement for my Black Hills carry load. I may wind up going to Buffalo Bore +P wadcutters. The bulk .32 S&W wadcutters aren't very cheap either. It's probably a much better gun for people who have time to reload. 9mm sure would have made things easier in this regard. However, I'm a bit recoil averse, so I chickened out.

[Duelist]

I think in the GJM quote above regarding Rogers school, he was probably using the term "setback" in place of "bullet pull" for some reason. If Rogers wasn't having problems with bullet pull in tens of thousands of rounds of beginner classes using 147s, I think it's likely one could find a standard pressure load that will handle 5 shots. Although, it's certainly something to vet and keep an eye on!

I wish I would have purchased a 9mm instead of a .327. The .32 family is really fun to shoot, but I always have thousands of rounds of 9mm, and factory .32 H&R has pretty much dried up. I can't currently source a replacement for my Black Hills carry load. I may wind up going to Buffalo Bore +P wadcutters. The bulk .32 S&W wadcutters aren't very cheap either. It's probably a much better gun for people who have time to reload. 9mm sure would have made things easier in this regard. However, I'm a bit recoil averse, so I chickened out.

I reload for most of my Airweight J .38 Special shooting. It doesn’t take that long to load up a box or two of low recoil practice stuff, even on a single stage press (I have a turret now, but started with a Lee Loader Whackamole tool, then a single stage), and you can make them last a long time if you are smart about your practice.

I think a .32 LCR or J would be an awesome little pocket revolver.

[Gun Mutt]

I already owned and loved my .22, but I wanted a centerfire LCR if/when my faith in rimfire faltered. I read everything I could find on P-F and elsewhere before choosing .32 over 9mm for my non-.22LR snubbie needs. These are the highlights I took away (any inaccuracies lie completely with me):

9mm:
- 147's = less bullet pull, best accuracy, more accurate than .38, mildest 9mm recoil.
- Lighter loads, esp +P are punishing.
- With hot loads, it outperforms .38 hot loads. (Shrug; if I still owned a .38, it'd be loaded with wadcutters.)
- If you're going to train/shoot it a lot, 9mm is cheaper than .32 or .38.
- People who shot them with stout loads sold them quickly.
- Moonclips FTW! Whether carried or used for reloads or not, having your carry rounds in a moonclip provides easier administrative loading/unloading and surer ejection of empties when reloading is a priority.

.32 Long:
- Great accuracy.
- Mild, rather fun, recoil, aids in said accuracy.
- 6th round.
- Expensive & hard to find.
- Even .32 wadcutters tend to penetrate adequately and I've got a decent supply.
- Can't add dick about .32H&R hp's as me & my credit card have never been in the same room or site where the damn things are available.

I'd very much like to shoot a 9mm LCR wearing Bantams and loaded with 147gr hp's. But I'm I'm not training with or shooting centerfire snubbies much anyway.

My 9mm range sessions (though Glock) rarely go over 100rds and I usually have plans/drills to shoot 50-75rds. Then I shoot the .22 until I feel like stopping. I'll shoot 6 or 12 rounds of .32 every now and then just to confirm how much I like it and the nice little groups it delivers.

Years ago, in one of the initial John Wick threads, someone (SouthNarc?) posted that he loved how JW, "...used his pistols like a bullet drill..." That really resonated with me. The .32 drills to sufficient depth and lets me do it much easier than any .38 LCR or j-frame I've ever tried regardless of the load.

[Jamie]

I guess quoting yourself is the epitome of malignant narcissism <sigh>




I have been heavily P-F influence as regards LCR's. My .38 spl LCR was my first and it's my "always have a gun, gun" and rides either in my waistband or an A Holster strong side pocket daily.
I've added a .22 LCR and a .327 LCR along the way. I shoot my .38 LCR at least once, generally twice, a week along with either the .22 or .327.

My biggest concern is I don't know the "life expectancy" of a .38 LCR. I don't keep a round count record, probably should, but I know I have between 3-4K of .38's through it so far. It's tight and the BC gap is unchanged. I'm actually looking for a 2nd .38 LCR locally.

Anyone have any idea as to a .38 LCR life/round expectancy? I know, there's no crystal balls out there.



I reread this entire thread over the past week. There's truly a lot of great info here, and it's interesting to see the evolution of thought over time.

Something I gleaned, in particular, from this thread is the remarkable potential life expectancy of the 9mm LCRs shot at Rogers. Impressive indeed.

I posted a "wanted" ad on a local/regional forum, not really expecting much to come from it. I just really wanted to have a backup to my .38 LCR as I shoot it so frequently.
Well, what do you know? I was contacted by a long time member,offered a deal I couldn't turn down, and met Monday morning with him.

I picked up a like new (no visible turn lines and tight) LCR .38 spl with a set of Hi Viz sights and a 9mm LCR that he said, and I believe, had less than 50 rounds through it. I also received 20 moomclips with the 9mm. New in their packages. Very good price imho.

I stopped by the indoor range after work of course.

I was anticipating, from reading some of the posts in this thread, a bit more of a recoil sensation shooting the 9mm. I found it remarkably easy to shoot using my 147 gr handloads (1040 fps?) and 147 gr HST's.

I plan to chrono the same rounds later today from my G19 and the LCR. Interested in the comparative velocities.

The Hi Viz sights on the .38 are nice. It was my first time shooting them and using "drive the dot" focus shoot the 148 gr WC well.

I may swap them onto the 9mm and give them a try. I plan to put a set of Bantam grips on the 9mm and see how they work for me. Love 'em on my .327, .38, and .22.

Thanks for the enabling P-F! ;)


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ETA. Tried additional pics, but my cyberskills are weak...

[Jamie]

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Hope this works

[Jamie]

Unfortunately I didn't have a lot of time at the range, but have a bit of chrono data below.

I used my 9mm Shield as a comparison to the LCR.(a bit more comparable length).

I already knew my 147 gr handloads ran 1040 fps from my Glock 19. I'll need to hunt around for HST fps in my 19...

Shield 9mm
147 gr with 4.2 grs Unique = 920 fps

LCR 9mm
147 gr Unique load = 921 fps



Changing over to 147 gr Federal HST (non-plusP load)

Shield 9mm
147 gr HST = 920 fps

LCR 9mm
147 gr HST = 916 fps

I didn't have the opportunity to swap to the Hi Viz sights on the 9mm LCR yet. I did paint an orange strip onto the factory sight last evening (see previous pic please).
But I did put a set of Bantam grips on the LCR and found it to still be very controllable shot to shot.

I didn't have my timer with me, but will take it my next trip. I could probably use a sundail...

My orange sight required a 6 o'clock hold fwiw. I ran about 50 rounds on some steel plates and have to say I love this 9mm LCR.

Guess I'm becoming a dyed in the wool LCR fanboy... :D

[Paul Blackburn]

I'm interested in a direct comparison of the recoil between the 9mm LCR and the .38 LCR 148 gr wadcutters.

[PNWTO]

I'm interested in a direct comparison of the recoil between the 9mm LCR and the .38 LCR 148 gr wadcutters.

Subjective, and a single sample, but the 9mm LCR with 147gr Lawman felt like the 110gr XTPs from my .38.

The wadcutters were fairly mundane.

I’m of the opinion the wadcutters, and perhaps some of the Lehigh monolithics, are a solid option. I don’t know, but haven’t read in-depth, about 9mm JHP performance from such a short tube.

[D-der]

Im curious on thoughts about the LCR 9mm going forward, perceived recoil 38 vs 9, POA / POI of various bullet weights etc.

[Jamie]

I'm interested in a direct comparison of the recoil between the 9mm LCR and the .38 LCR 148 gr wadcutters.

I was as well. There was never a rental 9mm LCR available in my area and nobody I knew owned one. I just trusted in the much more experienced shooters here on P-F and took a chance. (btw, if you ever find yourself near Knoxville you are welcome to try mine out.)

I bought the 9mm LCR because, as I mentioned up-thread, GJM and others discussed the incredible number of rounds that were going through them at Rogers and apparently they were holding up well... and I was concerned I would over time wear down my .38 spl LCR as I shoot it 1-2/wk.

I plan to continue to carry my .38 LCR, but I plan to primarily use the 9mm as a training tool along with my .22 LCR.

The .327 LCR and 9mm LCR are just a bit heavier than my .38, and it actually does make a bit of difference pocket carrying in an A-holster (to me). But at least the .327 offers an extra round of (Buffalo Bore .32 S&W) ammo. Just a thought.

As regards recoil. PNWTO mentioned, it's very subjective. Heck, I'm pushing 70 and can't even remember being young and strong LOL. So recoil was/is certainly a consideration for me.

I find the 9mm LCR comparable to shooting the Safestop plated wadcutter (148 gr) at 811 fps. Slightly more "snap" (terrible word, but I don't know how else to put it) than the Georgia Arms self defense wadcutter and certainly more than the GMM I previously carried in my .38's, but very comfortable and controllable using the Bantam grips I have on all of my LCR's.

I carry my G 19 AIWB loaded with 147 HST's 90% of the time with an LCR as a second gun. I'm mostly retired so I have the luxury of dressing the way I want now days . Not everyone has that option. But when I do work, it's in scrubs at a local private college so NPE carry is still a concern.

I choose to chrono the 147 gr handloads and 147 gr HST above as the HST shoots to POA in my Glocks and my several years old S&W Shield. I'll need to try different sights on my 9mm LCR to find that sweet spot.

I read through the thread I'll try and link below on ammo performance in short barreled guns but don't recall 9mm in revolvers being mentioned. But DocGKR always offers sage advice. So I try to pick ammo that's reliable and shoots to my sights... not saying I'm alone in this LOL. You folks are the most knowledgeable and thoughtful/technical people I've had the pleasure to read. I learn a lot here, so thank you.

Well I didn't intend to type so much...

Here's the link to that ammo thread. Looking forward to folks thoughts on 9mm in a snubbie.

https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?42443-Defensive-Ammo-Choice-for-Short-Barrel-9mm-(Glock-43-Sig-P365)

[jandbj]

Had the LCR22 done too. This one isn’t as low… seeing if the original LCR38 front sight is tall enough to work. Range trip soon to check em both out.

New taller front sight was needed… adapted this from a Ruger MKIV.
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[jws]

New taller front sight was needed… adapted this from a Ruger MKIV.
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Could you provide more detail on the sight and install? I have a 3” .22 LCR that I would like to get a fiber optic front sight on and I can’t find one anywhere.

[jandbj]

Could you provide more detail on the sight and install? I have a 3” .22 LCR that I would like to get a fiber optic front sight on and I can’t find one anywhere.

Strictly a custom proposition. Took a factory MKIV front sight, milled a channel on the underside for where the factory cross pin connects on the LCR, then drilled and tapped for the MKIV sight screw.
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If the regular fixed sight LCR fronts fit your 3”, there are a few factory options for a fiber optic.
HIVIZ Ruger LCR Front Sight https://a.co/d/d2jd84M

[camel]

Strictly a custom proposition. Took a factory MKIV front sight, milled a channel on the underside for where the factory cross pin connects on the LCR, then drilled and tapped for the MKIV sight screw.
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If the regular fixed sight LCR fronts fit your 3”, there are a few factory options for a fiber optic.
HIVIZ Ruger LCR Front Sight https://a.co/d/d2jd84M

Dam.

[jandbj]

Dam.

I really really wanted that Novak rear… but then I needed a taller front. Down the custom-smithing rabbit hole I went.

Left my .38 LCR off with the same gunsmith when I picked up the rimfire.

[Polecat]

Ameriglo or fission need to come out with LCR sight! A rugged adjustable rear from factory would be good upgrade.

[jws]

Strictly a custom proposition. Took a factory MKIV front sight, milled a channel on the underside for where the factory cross pin connects on the LCR, then drilled and tapped for the MKIV sight screw.
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If the regular fixed sight LCR fronts fit your 3”, there are a few factory options for a fiber optic.
HIVIZ Ruger LCR Front Sight https://a.co/d/d2jd84M

Thanks! It’s been a while since I have looked but last I knew the .22 required a different height front than the .38/.357 and I wasn’t able to find a fiber optic one from any manufacturer. I’ll have to look around again and see if any are out there.

[jandbj]

Thanks! It’s been a while since I have looked but last I knew the .22 required a different height front than the .38/.357 and I wasn’t able to find a fiber optic one from any manufacturer. I’ll have to look around again and see if any are out there.

May work for you with the adjustable rear. IIRC, .38 sights are slightly taller than the rimfire ones.

[G19Fan]

9669796698

I.have a bantam, it has been dremeled, and hoge handball added to it.

I have other items as well, if people would like to try them out .

How wide is the Rodgers grip?

[JCN]

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Hope this works

Do you like the Hiviz sights on the 9mm? Do you find the height works well enough for POA/POI? Thanks!

[Jamie]

Do you like the Hiviz sights on the 9mm? Do you find the height works well enough for POA/POI? Thanks!

I personally just didn't care for the Hi-Viz. I know they have a huge following, but I found I could pick up the orange XS sights (same set as on my .22 LCR and .327 LCR) faster and more consistently.
I also found the POA/POI better for me, holding about an inch below the X on a B8 target using my 147 gr handloads. 10 yards and beyond I use a 6 o'clock hold on the black. Please take into account I'm pushing 70 and wear trifocals...

The HiViz POA/POI ... IIRC I had to hold about 1 inch lower than the XS.

The great thing about LCR's is that it takes less than 10 minutes to swap out the front sights.

From my XS order: Non-Tritium Revolver Front Sight - Ruger RP-0014N-1N Fit: Ruger LCR (.22/.327/9mm), Color: Orange

Just one old guy's opinion.

[JCN]

Jamie thank you!

[jandbj]

LCR38 came back from the gunsmith
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Wasn’t enough meat in the barrel shroud to d&t for the MKIV front sight screw, so he pinned it like the stock LCR front.

[Jamie]

Damn! That's nice jandbj!

Love my LCR's but that certainly takes them up a notch.

[JCN]

LCR38 came back from the gunsmith
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Wasn’t enough meat in the barrel shroud to d&t for the MKIV front sight screw, so he pinned it like the stock LCR front.

Looks great!

How much does he charge if you don’t mind me asking and does he take shipments from out of state….

Would love an adjustable rear sight.

[jandbj]

JCN

Rear sight is a Novak that was installed by Greg Derr at Derr Precision in MA.

Front is a takeoff from a Ruger MKIV. It was done by a local guy in southern NH that only does local work, Ray Simard in Dublin, NH.

Between both front and rear, I think it was $125 per gun for labor & I supplied the sights.

[Flamingo]

Rear sight is a Novak that was installed by Greg Derr at Derr Precision in MA.

Did you use the GP100 style? Not to be too pushy, but a stand alone post on the modifications you did to it would be great (and easier to reference later).

[Zeke38]

LCR at a whole new level!!! Ruger listen up!!

I'd buy a 9mm LCR so equipped.

[Up1911Fan]

New grips came in, I've been anxiously awaiting these and they don't disappoint. No live fire yet, but I'm gonna say these are the best grips going for the LCR.
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[MK11]

New grips came in, I've been anxiously awaiting these and they don't disappoint. No live fire yet, but I'm gonna say these are the best grips going for the LCR.
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I'll bite. What are they and what are they made of?

[Up1911Fan]

I'll bite. What are they and what are they made of?

https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?57155-Hamre-Forge-J-Frame-Grips-(improved-barami-hip-grip

https://hamreforge.com/product/hamre-hook-grip-system/

[eb07]

My KLCR is still ticking 13 years and 7900 rounds later



https://i.postimg.cc/J7PpBxB2/PXL-20231017-150241549.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/MHKtFMg5/PXL-20231017-150249117.jpg

[PNWTO]

New grips came in…

I’m eagerly awaiting mine. Give the fine folks that provided feedback I’ll expect to adore them and they’ll work perfectly for the “work from home” vibe.

[Paul Blackburn]

My KLCR is still ticking 13 years and 7900 rounds later



https://i.postimg.cc/J7PpBxB2/PXL-20231017-150241549.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/MHKtFMg5/PXL-20231017-150249117.jpg

What is a KLCR?

[Up1911Fan]

What is a KLCR?

I believe the K denotes the .357 version.

[Paul Blackburn]

I believe the K denotes the .357 version.

Ok, I didn't see the K designation on the Ruger website.

[eb07]

What is a KLCR?

If you click on spec sheet it will tell you the catalog number

It was just LCR and KLCR in 2010 when introduced before the other calibers came on the scene. Now its LCR LCR22 KLCR357 KLCR9 KLCR327 LCRx etc. I assume maybe the K denoted the different steels used in manufacturing as well.

I bought one of the first ones as soon as they came out. In the first ten serial numbers

[Paul Blackburn]

If you click on spec sheet it will tell you the catalog number

It was just LCR and KLCR in 2010 when introduced before the other calibers came on the scene. Now its LCR LCR22 KLCR357 KLCR9 KLCR327 LCRx etc. I assume maybe the K denoted the different steels used in manufacturing as well.

I bought one of the first ones as soon as they came out. In the first ten serial numbers

Per customer service.

K designates the monolithic frame is made from 400-series stainless steel vs aerospace-grade, 7000-series aluminum for the .22 and .38

That also explains the weight difference.

[Up1911Fan]

Rule 1 things.
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[WobblyPossum]

Rule 1 things.
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How do you like the Hamre Forge stocks compared to the Hogue Boot Grip, if you’ve tried both?

[Up1911Fan]

How do you like the Hamre Forge stocks compared to the Hogue Boot Grip, if you’ve tried both?

These replaced the boot grip, they'll be staying on. They fit my hand better, the gun indexes better and they're still pocketable for me. I'll be ordering another set.

[WobblyPossum]

These replaced the boot grip, they'll be staying on. They fit my hand better, the gun indexes better and they're still pocketable for me. I'll be ordering another set.

Thanks. I’m currently without an LCR but, after trying another student’s LCR .22 at the NPE Counter Robbery class last weekend, I’m seriously considering picking one up. I previously owned a .357 version and was running the boot grips on it and really liked them. If these are better than the boot grips, they must really be something.

[Up1911Fan]

Thanks. I’m currently without an LCR but, after trying another student’s LCR .22 at the NPE Counter Robbery class last weekend, I’m seriously considering picking one up. I previously owned a .357 version and was running the boot grips on it and really liked them. If these are better than the boot grips, they must really be something.

I can get a pic of the two when I get home.

[BillSWPA]

Rule 1 things.
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Very interesting knife. Who makes it?

[Up1911Fan]

Very interesting knife. Who makes it?

Strider.

[jandbj]

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Got my grips.

Want to get some range time in before I change anything. But I foresee goon tape mods in their future.

[PNWTO]

These replaced the boot grip, they'll be staying on. They fit my hand better, the gun indexes better and they're still pocketable for me. I'll be ordering another set.

Agreed, played with mine on the .22 today. Really like everything about them; even the “hook” feature feels really good. I didn’t put the “hookless” side on, as it seemed to work well enough in my Mika holster.

Interested to throw them on the .38 and see how they fare when recoil is present but intuition is promising.


But I foresee goon tape mods in their future.

Already done on mine and it’s awesome.

[Up1911Fan]

Agreed, played with mine on the .22 today. Really like everything about them; even the “hook” feature feels really good. I didn’t put the “hookless” side on, as it seemed to work well enough in my Mika holster.

Interested to throw them on the .38 and see how they fare when recoil is present but intuition is promising.

I'll probably put a hook set on another one, but wanted these on my main pocket gun. Mine are both .327's loaded with BB .32 Long, so recoil isn't really present.

[Ndbbm]

Got my set of Hamre forge grips. I like the feel, but haven’t had chance to shoot them yet. They work fine (hook grip) in a Aholster backbone in my left pocket, a wilderness ankle holster, and a Darkstar gear Apollo. They did not work in a right hand Aholster backbone, the little hook poked out too much. Will see how they work on the 38, and will then check a 9mm, but I have a feeling that I will add a little rock tape and get a second set.

Jason

[MGW]

I'll probably put a hook set on another one, but wanted these on my main pocket gun. Mine are both .327's loaded with BB .32 Long, so recoil isn't really present.

I didn’t realized they were available without a hook until your post. I ordered a set for my LCR 22.

[Up1911Fan]

Thanks. I’m currently without an LCR but, after trying another student’s LCR .22 at the NPE Counter Robbery class last weekend, I’m seriously considering picking one up. I previously owned a .357 version and was running the boot grips on it and really liked them. If these are better than the boot grips, they must really be something.
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[WobblyPossum]

Thanks! The comparison photos are really helpful.

[willie]

I may have owned more 2 inch belly guns than anybody here. My opinion is that the LCR is a best choice. Be aware that releasing the trigger so that it travels forward completely is essential. Otherwise you might end up twirling the cylinder without working the mechanism. No bang.

[Notorious E.O.C.]

I went out on a limb and picked up an LCR in .327 Federal with the intent of using it for winter coat pocket carry. Of course, I would buy into another caliber right as the ammo market loses its collective mind... but I did manage to pick up a decent supply of .32 S&W Long for training, along with a few boxes of Federal's low-recoil .327 Hydra-Shoks for carry. Today was my first range day with it. Ran 50 rounds of the .32, which lulled me into a false sense of security. Then I started in on the Hydra-Shoks...

... and I think I loosened a filling and cracked some ceiling tiles. The recoil isn't a problem (much more pleasant than my first LCR in .38 Special), but ye gods, if I can't get the hits, the muzzle blast will still be enough of a flash-bang for me to break contact once the cylinder is empty.

[Up1911Fan]

I went out on a limb and picked up an LCR in .327 Federal with the intent of using it for winter coat pocket carry. Of course, I would buy into another caliber right as the ammo market loses its collective mind... but I did manage to pick up a decent supply of .32 S&W Long for training, along with a few boxes of Federal's low-recoil .327 Hydra-Shoks for carry. Today was my first range day with it. Ran 50 rounds of the .32, which lulled me into a false sense of security. Then I started in on the Hydra-Shoks...

... and I think I loosened a filling and cracked some ceiling tiles. The recoil isn't a problem (much more pleasant than my first LCR in .38 Special), but ye gods, if I can't get the hits, the muzzle blast will still be enough of a flash-bang for me to break contact once the cylinder is empty.
I've never even loaded a .327 Mag into either of my LCR's. The BB .32 Long loads are pretty awesome.

[SeriousStudent]

Thanks. I’m currently without an LCR but, after trying another student’s LCR .22 at the NPE Counter Robbery class last weekend, I’m seriously considering picking one up. I previously owned a .357 version and was running the boot grips on it and really liked them. If these are better than the boot grips, they must really be something.


I just got mine in the mail today. I am going to put them on my 327 LCR this weekend, and will try them out with those Magtech 90-grain wadcutters I was running. It should be a useful combo. I really like how they anchor the pistol.

I am going to put the CT lasers on the .22 LCR I have, and get another set of the Hamre forge ones for my .38 and 9mm.

Great shooting with you in class!

[WobblyPossum]

I just got mine in the mail today. I am going to put them on my 327 LCR this weekend, and will try them out with those Magtech 90-grain wadcutters I was running. It should be a useful combo. I really like how they anchor the pistol.

I am going to put the CT lasers on the .22 LCR I have, and get another set of the Hamre forge ones for my .38 and 9mm.

Great shooting with you in class!

You as well sir! It was great to be able to put a face to the name.

[Gun Mutt]

I've had my Hamre Forge hook grips since Monday and this morning I sent them an email that starts with kudos for their innovation and drive and ends with my asking if they have any of the pre-production models sans the Boresight Razorback-like heel hump that I could trade for or purchase. Totally not poo-pooing the grips; those that like them really seem to like them...but that heel hump does my misfit hands no favors at all.

I chose the LCR because I can grip it with the same high thumb manner that I do my 1911s & Glocks. Which may very well mean that my grip is stoopid, but it's long ingrained and has served me well since my first formal training at Thunder Ranch in '98. The heel hump fights to keep the web of my hand from making contact as high on the back of the frame as I desire. I respect the hell out of Dagga Boy and appreciate his input with Hamre Forge and I'm sure he or Rhett could explain how I'm doing it wrong, but that's not happening any time soon.

I put the Hamre's on my .32 LCR to see if my opinion changes with the heavier snub, but my .22 once again wears Bantam boot grips and resides in my pocket A-Holster. If Hamre Forge doesn't have an older model available, I'll probably break out the dremel and see what kind of mischief I get myself into.

Rather than this grip:

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I'd like to see if this grip:

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Allows for something closer to this grip:

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[jh9]

Could someone compare the trigger reach between a Kahr anything and an LCR, also noting the grips?

[Paul Blackburn]

Look like the HamerForge grips don't accommodate the pinky finger.

[Up1911Fan]

Look like the HamerForge grips don't accommodate the pinky finger.

Mine don't, but I have no use for snubby grips that are that long.

[Gun Mutt]

^^Ditto.

And the little bit of birds head sweep on the HF's really does lock it in the hand, esp with a curled thumb grip.

[G19Fan]

I've had my Hamre Forge hook grips since Monday and this morning I sent them an email that starts with kudos for their innovation and drive and ends with my asking if they have any of the pre-production models sans the Boresight Razorback-like heel hump that I could trade for or purchase. Totally not poo-pooing the grips; those that like them really seem to like them...but that heel hump does my misfit hands no favors at all.

I chose the LCR because I can grip it with the same high thumb manner that I do my 1911s & Glocks. Which may very well mean that my grip is stoopid, but it's long ingrained and has served me well since my first formal training at Thunder Ranch in '98. The heel hump fights to keep the web of my hand from making contact as high on the back of the frame as I desire. I respect the hell out of Dagga Boy and appreciate his input with Hamre Forge and I'm sure he or Rhett could explain how I'm doing it wrong, but that's not happening any time soon.

I put the Hamre's on my .32 LCR to see if my opinion changes with the heavier snub, but my .22 once again wears Bantam boot grips and resides in my pocket A-Holster. If Hamre Forge doesn't have an older model available, I'll probably break out the dremel and see what kind of mischief I get myself into.

Rather than this grip:

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I love the bantam boot grips but I am curious on that razorback like heel. May need to try one

[Paul Blackburn]

Mine don't, but I have no use for snubby grips that are that long.

Hogue Piranha G- Mascus G10 Grip
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Here is a comparison between the Hamre Forge and the Hogue Piranha G- Mascus G10 Grip. The difference in length is minuscule.

[jeep45238]

Hogue Piranha G- Mascus G10 Grip
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Here is a comparison between the Hamre Forge and the Hogue Piranha G- Mascus G10 Grip. The difference in length is minuscule.

Do you have the ability to compare to the factory LCR, LCRx, or Hogue boot grips by chance? Really curious on length and profile compared to what I already have.

[Gun Mutt]

Bantam boot grip & Hamre Forge. 2nd pic really shows how much less material there is on the HF's behind trigger guard. (Muzzles are aligned fwiw.)

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[jeep45238]

Bantam boot grip & Hamre Forge. 2nd pic really shows how much less material there is on the HF's behind trigger guard. (Muzzles are aligned fwiw.)

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Thank you!

[G19Fan]

Bantam boot grip & Hamre Forge. 2nd pic really shows how much less material there is on the HF's behind trigger guard. (Muzzles are aligned fwiw.)

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Thanks! Is it just me or does the hammr forge look like it indexes more like a semi auto? Revolvers tend to index high for me.

Think I will try a pair

[Gun Mutt]

Thanks! Is it just me or does the hammr forge look like it indexes more like a semi auto? Revolvers tend to index high for me.
Think I will try a pair

Sorry I never responded, I sometimes get lost between this thread and "Official Ruger LCR Thread" (https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?37449-quot-Official-Ruger-LCR-Thread-quot/page23) - both have great posts and enabled me into the .22/.32 LCR owner I am today! I kinda wish a shit-mod would merge them, but I'd hate to lose the flow of either thread.

See my post #897 (with pics) in this thread. I don't shoot snubs of any kind with a curled thumb & the HF's don't suit my high thumb.

[D-der]

Couldn't help myself,
I've got a 9mm and some TK custom moon clips inbound.

[Stephanie B]

Yeah, I'm likely going to get a .22 LCR in 2024.

[Crow Hunter]

Yeah, I'm likely going to get a .22 LCR in 2024.

I would love to read your opinion when you do.

[RJ]

Could someone compare the trigger reach between a Kahr anything and an LCR, also noting the grips?

FWIW, this is the upper portion of my "Hand Size Project" analysis spreadsheet that recorded grip size (mm and inches) i.e. circumference (and by extension, perhaps what you mean by trigger reach?) for all guns that ended up in the XS and S groups, including the Kahr PM9.

Oddly (to me anyway) the LCR ended up being classified as a "Medium" gun based on Grip Size.

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[jh9]

FWIW, this is the upper portion of my "Hand Size Project" analysis spreadsheet that recorded grip size (mm and inches) i.e. circumference (and by extension, perhaps what you mean by trigger reach?) for all guns that ended up in the XS and S groups, including the Kahr PM9.

Oddly (to me anyway) the LCR ended up being classified as a "Medium" gun based on Grip Size.

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This seems amazing.

There's some variance between things I would think should be the same. e.g. Glock 43x @ 165mm and Glock 43x/48 @ 162mm. I assume that's just +/- error with different people measuring basically the same guns?

The comparison to the steel Kahr K9/MK9 w/ factory rubber grip is exactly what I was looking for.

[RJ]

This seems amazing.

There's some variance between things I would think should be the same. e.g. Glock 43x @ 165mm and Glock 43x/48 @ 162mm. I assume that's just +/- error with different people measuring basically the same guns?

The comparison to the steel Kahr K9/MK9 w/ factory rubber grip is exactly what I was looking for.

Yeah, well, bear in mind I just took folks' data at face value, and assumed they all did the measurement the same way. So there are probably some deltas based on how the data was taken. In the specific case you mentioned, the G43X number was provided in inches, the G43X/48 in mm (green cells are data entered, yellow cells are computations, where 1" = 25.4mm).

The numbers for the P365X/XL and Ruger LCR were from me, though, as I own both. I have a mm tape measure, so that's what I used. (pic might look like 168 mm, but I recorded 166 mm when I did it for real.)

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Like I said, I found it pretty interesting those two were so close in Grip Size.

The study was a lot of fun.

https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?57834-Hand-Length-to-Gun-Fit-A-Case-Study-Analysis-and-Conclusion-(Part-3)

[D-der]

Picked up my LCR 9 Friday, it's been abnormally warm but raining, I still got to run 80 rd's of mixed ammo, 124S&B, 115 AE,124 Norma, 124HST, 147 AE, 147 Lawman and 147HST. Everything shot well and pretty close to POA at 7yds,targets were 3x5 index cards with a center 2" square and there were only a few flyer's off the cards, most certainly my doing. The lighter loads mostly seemed to impact a little lower but the 124 HST's shoot very well as did all the 147's, I did shoot some steel at 18yds with 147gr Lawman and hits were nicely centered. After the first 30 rd's I swapped the boot grip from my 38 to the 9 hoping it would still be manageable and found it an improvement as with the 38 and 22. My last cylinder in the rain was 147 Lawman on a B8 low ready at 5yds with 2 x rings a 10 and 2 9's in 3.92 which I'm quite satisfied with. I hope to shoot more from 10yds out today / tomorrow. All and all, so far, I'm impressed.

[D-der]

Considering giving an Aholster a try. they only have an LCR 38 listed, will a 9mm work properly in a 38 holster ? The 9 seems fine, just a tiny bit more snug in my JM 38 holster and a molded leather pocket holster than the 38 which is no problem with an AIWB but, would prevent a proper draw from a Kydex pocket holster. I'd expect a .357 and 9mm would have the same footprint due the heavier frame. Some comparison measurements between the 38 and 9mm don't really show any difference that I can put a finger on but, I can't measure every aspect either, the 9 just seems to be a hair larger.

[Jamie]

Considering giving an Aholster a try. they only have an LCR 38 listed, will a 9mm work properly in a 38 holster ?

Yes Sir. Mine do.
I just tried my .22, .38 spl, 9mm, and .327. They fit and draw easily.
I have both right and left hand AHolsters. They're my favorite pocket holsters but I file the sharp hook down because, imho, it's much sharper than needed.



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[bofe954]

Wondering if they would do this in 9mm-

https://www.novaksinc.com/lcr-revolver.html

Didn't seem priced all that bad to me and I liked how they just provide the gun so you aren't mailing stuff around. I have a 340PD that I rarely use and actually a fair amount of 38 ammo around though...

[D-der]

Yes Sir. Mine do.
I just tried my .22, .38 spl, 9mm, and .327. They fit and draw easily.
I have both right and left hand AHolsters. They're my favorite pocket holsters but I file the sharp hook down because, imho, it's much sharper than needed.

Thanks!
My order's in


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[Paul Blackburn]

Yes Sir. Mine do.
I just tried my .22, .38 spl, 9mm, and .327. They fit and draw easily.
I have both right and left hand AHolsters. They're my favorite pocket holsters but I file the sharp hook down because, imho, it's much sharper than needed.



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How does the 9mm, .38, and .327 recoil compare to one another?

[RJ]

Considering giving an Aholster a try. they only have an LCR 38 listed, will a 9mm work properly in a 38 holster ? The 9 seems fine, just a tiny bit more snug in my JM 38 holster and a molded leather pocket holster than the 38 which is no problem with an AIWB but, would prevent a proper draw from a Kydex pocket holster. I'd expect a .357 and 9mm would have the same footprint due the heavier frame. Some comparison measurements between the 38 and 9mm don't really show any difference that I can put a finger on but, I can't measure every aspect either, the 9 just seems to be a hair larger.

My Aholster was effective but painful. I sold it on. I believe willie has it now, as he was looking for a left hand option.

[Up1911Fan]

Wondering if they would do this in 9mm-

https://www.novaksinc.com/lcr-revolver.html

Didn't seem priced all that bad to me and I liked how they just provide the gun so you aren't mailing stuff around. I have a 340PD that I rarely use and actually a fair amount of 38 ammo around though...

I see serious issues with those shooting POA/POI. The mill in that rear sight and only have 1 height front sight.

[Jamie]

How does the 9mm, .38, and .327 recoil compare to one another?

So very subjective.

I only shoot .32 S&W Long and .32 H&R mags in my .327. I've never even fired a .327 mag in any gun.
But .32 S&W Long and .32 H&R mags are downright pleasant, gentle even imho.
I just received for .32 H&R mag loads form Lost River and plan to shoot and chrono them in my LCR tomorrow.
This will probably be my carry load and I am thankful he is loading them. They look Great!

I handload.
So in my .38 LCR I shoot 158 gr LSWC at 750 fps and 148 gr WC at 650 fps. My "Safestop" 148 gr WC run at 811 fps in the LCR.

The 148 gr WCs are easy, all day shooting. The 158 gr I'm good to 100 rounds and then the base of my thumb aches.
The "Safestop" are peppy, subjectively similar to the 158 gr old FBI load (to me). 50 rounds of the "Safestop" velocity WCs in .38 and I'm done.

The 9mm.
I load a 147 gr coated flat point and run them at 870 fps in my LCR.
They "feel" a bit sharper than the .38 at 750 but markedly less sharp than the old +P FBI .38 load. I'm good for a hundred rounds per session with no pain but I attribute that to having the longer than Bantam grips on the 9mm. They aren't any harder to hold onto with my little finger curled under the bantams, but they do twist the LCR in my hands a bit with those.
The problem, if you could even call it that, is more with my aging grip than the loads.

This is probably so subjective that's it's not helpful to you at all.

I wish I could invite you over to shoot them all Paul. If you find yourself in East TN you are welcome to do so.


RJ How was the holster painful to you? My apologies but I don't understand. TIA


ETA additional comment.

[D-der]

I've had mixed results with Kydex pocket holsters in the past, I've been Using a Desantis, Mika and a TT Gunleather pocket holsters but, I've read so much good on the Aholster and the design looks thought out, thought I'd give it a try. Given the times we're in, it seems I've got a snub in my pocket in addition to my AIWB more and more, as they say...options are good.
As mentioned prior, perceived recoil is entirely subjective, I was somewhat apprehensive on picking up the 9mm due to some of what I'd read on recoil bu, there seemed to be almost as many counter opinions, I'm running Bantam grips on both guns, to me it's perhaps like a full power 38 but a little snappier and seems more so with 124's than 147's. I've only had the 9 for a week and due to weather and time restrictions haven't had time to run more than 60 or so rd's at a time and I don't believe I'd have ill effects with 100 or so, but that would probably be enough. One of the best things so far with the 9mm is, it seems almost everything I've shot through it shoot's within a couple of inches to poa at 7-10yds, S&B 124's hit about 1.5" lt and low but will shoot 1 hole, 124hst's, 147 Lawman and 147 HST's pretty much poa and I always have plenty of 9mm on the shelf. I can't speak to the 327

[Glenn E. Meyer]

[QUOTE=Jamie;1541509]So very subjective.

I only shoot .32 S&W Long and .32 H&R mags in my .327. I've never even fired a .327 mag in any gun.
But .32 S&W Long and .32 H&R mags are downright pleasant, gentle even imho.
I just received for .32 H&R mag loads form Lost River and plan to shoot and chrono them in my LCR tomorrow.
This will probably be my carry load and I am thankful he is loading them. They look Great!

..../QUOTE]

I've shot quite a bit of Federal 327 in my SW 632, 3 inch barrel, SS, hammered and with a compensator. It does have quite a kick and took me by surprise, esp. as I had a less that solid grip and it slammed back a bit. With a firm grip, not a problem but it is a loud, blasting round. I have mentioned before that when I had loaded some in outlaw match to take down steel poppers (as my 32 Longs wouldn't), the SO and audience thought the gun blew up. I have some

HEAVY 327 FEDERAL OUTDOORSMAN
130 gr. Hard Cast Keith @ 1,300 fps

in the gun now for walks in the woods - it should handle hairy local bigger critters. This might be fantasy. However, you need to hold on steady to this load.

The 32 SW Longs are sweet hearts to shoot and my choice for club matches where you can shoot any old thing.

[Jamie]

I've had mixed results with Kydex pocket holsters in the past, I've been Using a Desantis, Mika and a TT Gunleather pocket holsters

I used Mika for at least 10 years before trying the A Holsters. I have a Desantis I used when PJ carrying (with formerly a clip, now Harme Forge grip) but generally my pocket carry is as a second gun. Usually, like right now, I have a Glock AIWB and LCR in a pocket.

The AHolsters seem to bulge less for me, in my clothing choices, than the Mika. But I never plan to be without the Mika option.

Glenn E. Meyer,
It's reading about your Match experiences using the .327 Mag Flash Bang load that made me say to myself "Naw, I don't even need to try this!" LOL

[Gun Mutt]

My LCR22 lives in an A-Holster (with a some judicious emery cloth on overly sharp edges). I vastly prefer it to the Mika as I have had issues with the Mika coming out still on the gun. I've yet to have this happen with the A-Holster.

Last night, thinking about the Lost River .32mag rounds I need to order, I went to the safe & swapped the bantam gripped LCR22/A-Holster for my Hamre Forge gripped LCR32/Mika. In jeans, the weight difference wasn't as pronounced as I remembered in slacks. But before I retired to the couch with my son, I casually acquired my grip, drew the .32 and, of course, the Mika as one unit.

.32/Mika back in the safe, .22/A-Holster back in my pocket. YMMV.

[PNWTO]

D-der, apologies for missing this; had I seen your post earlier I would have sent you my Aholster LCR stuff. Could never warm up to them over my Mika.


the .327 Mag Flash Bang load that made me say to myself "Naw, I don't even need to try this!" LOL

.32 Mags are the very happy spot for the LCR327, my sample shoots a variety of .32 mags pretty well to the sights out to about 30yds.

[D-der]

D-der, apologies for missing this; had I seen your post earlier I would have sent you my Aholster LCR stuff. Could never warm up to them over my Mika.



.32 Mags are the very happy spot for the LCR327, my sample shoots a variety of .32 mags pretty well to the sights out to about 30yds.

Thanks, Very much appreciate it!
I like / use the Mika, not as much as the Desantis, due to clothing, I generally wear Carhart relaxed fit jean's and the Desantis is less bulkie, I'm hoping the Aholster is slimmer / better yet for the application.

[Gun Mutt]

Yes Sir. Mine do.
I just tried my .22, .38 spl, 9mm, and .327. They fit and draw easily.
I have both right and left hand AHolsters. They're my favorite pocket holsters but I file the sharp hook down because, imho, it's much sharper than needed.

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My .22 fits nicely in A-Holster's .38 design, my .32, not so much as the cylinder flutes just don't line up.


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[Glenn E. Meyer]

BTW - I have a 432 with 32 HR Mags as one of my pocket guns. Such a light, neat gun.

[D-der]

The Aholsters look nice and slim...I was impressed with my LCR 38 then picked up a LCRX .22 as a less expensive ammo trainer, decided I'd carry a snub as a bug rather than my old LCP, picked up a 642 Pro because it's a little more pocket friendly, put a Bamtam grip on the LCR and woah, makes a pocket difference, the 642 spent several months in a warranty cluster fuck, I started shooting and pocket carrying the 38 LCR which I had already shot better than the Smith, after a bunch of BS I got the 642 back in good shape but would rather carry/ shoot the LCR's so...picked up the 9mm so I wouldn't have to continuously be hunting for some kind of 148gr LWC at $30-$50 a box. So far I'm quite pleased with the 3 LCR's, the .22 went back to Ruger on warranty, for some reason it locked up tight, Ruger's customer service was outstanding and I had the gun back in 2 weeks time, door to door, just one experience but, a very good one. I just made a big circle to get back where I started, I'm not sure If I'll be keeping the J or move it along to finance another LCR.

[Jamie]

I'm a terrible photographer Gun Mutt, but I'll attach a pic of my 9mm in my left hand AHolster below.
I tried it in both the left and right hand holsters and couldn't appreciate any difference in any of my LCRs.

I checked my old emails and it looks like I purchased the holsters in July 2018 (email says for S&W J frame). Possibly a manufactoring variation? IDK

Interesting.

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[RJ]

Jamie it’s been a while on the Aholster, but as I recall it had at least one unnecessarily stabby part molded in. I currently use either a Desantis Nemesis for pocket, or a Dark Star gear for AIWB (at the gym, mostly).

[Jamie]

Jamie it’s been a while on the Aholster, but as I recall it had at least one unnecessarily stabby part molded in. I currently use either a Desantis Nemesis for pocket, or a Dark Star gear for AIWB (at the gym, mostly).

Good choices imho.

Yes Sir. My AHolsters came with a very sharp pointed area/protrusion on the front/sight end...a hook that is used to catch the pocket when drawing. I just rounded that portion off with an emery board. I never understood why they left it that sharp.
I certainly understand your issue with it.

Thanks for the response.

[RJ]

So very subjective.

...good stuff...

This is probably so subjective that's it's not helpful to you at all.



Actually this is great info. I appreciate you taking the time to write up your thoughts, especially comparing them.

I agree with you on wadcutters and velocity. I buy wadcutters specifically so that I can practice with my LCR, and use the same load for SD. Previously I've used Federal Gold Medal Match, which seems to be unobtainium lately. I don't care much for hot ammo, as it hits my hand too hard and makes shooting very unpleasant.

[BillSWPA]

Good choices imho.

Yes Sir. My AHolsters came with a very sharp pointed area/protrusion on the front/sight end...a hook that is used to catch the pocket when drawing. I just rounded that portion off with an emery board. I never understood why they left it that sharp.
I certainly understand your issue with it.

Thanks for the response.

Aholster has changed the design and no longer uses the sharp point. I sanded down the sharp points in the holsters I had with them. Sharp point or not, I wrap the pocket hook by the rear sight with Moleskin, so that the roll of Moleskin extends beyond the end of the hook. This goes a long way towards preserving pockets.

I have probably tried close to a dozen pocket holsters at this point, some of which are far more expensive, but have not found one with the combination of concealability and dependable access of the Aholster.

[jandbj]

My .22 fits nicely in A-Holster's .38 design, my .32, not so much as the cylinder flutes just don't line up.


.22
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.32
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With the different round count in the different cylinders, I’m betting the Aholster backbone model would work equally well with all. My J frame one has been great with 5,6,7,8 round cylinders.

[jandbj]

Wondering if they would do this in 9mm-

https://www.novaksinc.com/lcr-revolver.html

Didn't seem priced all that bad to me and I liked how they just provide the gun so you aren't mailing stuff around. I have a 340PD that I rarely use and actually a fair amount of 38 ammo around though...

When I called them last year they weren’t doing the cuts at all. I ended up buying the sights from them and having the work done locally. None of the Novak front sights were tall enough so I went the custom route on those too. Ended up using takeoff Ruger MKIV front sights adapted to work on the LCR’s.

See pages 83-86ish on these. ☝️

[Whiskey_Bravo]

Alternate Force has a couple of different versions of the LCR Rings Blue Guns on clearance. They are $35 right now.

https://www.alternateforce.net/ruger-lcr-with-crimson-trace-laserguard-blue-training-gun-clearance.htm (https://www.alternateforce.net/ruger-lcr-with-crimson-trace-laserguard-blue-training-gun-clearance.html)

I bought one of the LCR Crimson Trace versions. Even though I don't have an LCR right now it feels more akin to the way my J Frames are setup than the current blue gun offerings for S&W.

[Chuck Whitlock]

Cold Steel's training guns are a pretty good deal.

https://www.coldsteel.com/specialty/trainers/guns/

[RJ]

I ran across this older video by American Handgunner/Roy Huntington last night on shooting snubbies more accurately.

I'm typically not paying much attention to the trigger on my LCR (I know, I know). It measures 8.3 lbs on my digital Lyman, and is pretty smooth after four years ownership and almost 700 rounds. He suggests staging the pull, first with a slow, careful press, and then, right before hammer fall, he switches to being very careful on the trigger. The demo he does is with his 340pd, which he is very familiar with.

Is this the correct way to shoot a revolver? I wonder if part of the skill here is many thousands of repetitions with his snubby, demonstrating good shots, or if this is the "correct" technique in general, and I ought to learn how to do this myself with dry practice. I confess I've never really thought about this.

I appreciate this may not be how I would shoot my LCR in a SD situation at the moment, but for the purposes of this question, I'm at the square range trying to learn how to be smoother on the trigger and more accurate. So taking the time to learn this is part of what I'm doing. I figure if I can get this down, I can speed things up with practice and still be accurate.

Video for reference.


https://youtu.be/u1mTRuzXAuY?si=eRcIBHMWhfqZ1-Ua

[Duelist]

I ran across this older video by American Handgunner/Roy Huntington last night on shooting snubbies more accurately.

I'm typically not paying much attention to the trigger on my LCR (I know, I know). It measures 8.3 lbs on my digital Lyman, and is pretty smooth after four years ownership and almost 700 rounds. He suggests staging the pull, first with a slow, careful press, and then, right before hammer fall, he switches to being very careful on the trigger. The demo he does is with his 340pd, which he is very familiar with.

Is this the correct way to shoot a revolver? I wonder if part of the skill here is many thousands of repetitions with his snubby, demonstrating good shots, or if this is the "correct" technique in general, and I ought to learn how to do this myself with dry practice. I confess I've never really thought about this.

I appreciate this may not be how I would shoot my LCR in a SD situation at the moment, but for the purposes of this question, I'm at the square range trying to learn how to be smoother on the trigger and more accurate. So taking the time to learn this is part of what I'm doing. I figure if I can get this down, I can speed things up with practice and still be accurate.

Video for reference.


https://youtu.be/u1mTRuzXAuY?si=eRcIBHMWhfqZ1-Ua

Well, first of all, he’s completely wrong about what snub nose DA revolvers were first in production: that is not his Chief Special in the 1950s. The Colt Detective Special came out in the 1920s, and there was the S&W I frame in .32 that came out in the 1890s, so that poor Chief Special is definitely not the one that defined a category.

Yes, the small frame DA revolvers can be shot as accurately as a larger revolver, regardless of barrel length. And yes, people frequently yank DA triggers of all sizes of revolvers (and pistols) and don’t realize that the problem with the accuracy is their trigger manipulation and not the gun.

No, you don’t have to stage the DA trigger to get better accuracy. That is the completely ass-wrong way to shoot one defensively. Smoothly stroking through the trigger pull without moving the sights is the key to accuracy with any gun, SA or DA or partially-loaded striker or whatever.

This is easier to learn on a DA revolver that has a bit more mass than an airweight or air light J or an LCR, but it is certainly something that can be learned on a lightweight frame. Just is more fatiguing in live-fire than with a steel frame gun.

Dry fire is your friend here: Do the same wall drills and other dry fire drills that teach trigger manipulation that you read about for semiauto triggers. These were actually developed for DA revolvers first, and they still work for DA revolvers. Staging the trigger is a target-shooter’s method of shortening the trigger pull to mimic an SA trigger length. I do not recommend it for someone trying to learn a DA revolver as a defensive shooting gun. If someone wants to shoot an SA revolver, then they should just buy one and shoot it. :D

One drill I have used is: pick a spot on a target, wall, sticker stuck to the wall, whatever. With your unloaded/cleared/dummy cartridge loaded revolver, practice aiming at the spot and holding the gun motionless. Then practice smoothly rolling through the DA trigger without moving the sights. Sight alignment stays the same through the trigger pull = accurate shots. Do that over and over again until it happens by developed habit. If you develop this habit instead of the stage the trigger habit, you will be much better off whenever you actually try to shoot your revolver at something.

Others may have more sophisticated dry fire drills to share, but the key is just rolling through the trigger as if it was one motion while holding the sights on the target with no gun motion.

ETA: more mass in the revolver also helps it to “hang on the target” better/more easily, so that is another argument for a steel frame, especially in a larger gun, when learning/practicing trigger manipulations that will then transfer to the lighter/smaller gun.

[BN]

No, you don’t have to stage the DA trigger to get better accuracy. That is the completely ass-wrong way to shoot one defensively. Smoothly stroking through the trigger pull without moving the sights is the key to accuracy with any gun, SA or DA or partially-loaded striker or whatever.

but the key is just rolling through the trigger as if it was one motion while holding the sights on the target with no gun motion.

ETA: more mass in the revolver also helps it to “hang on the target” better/more easily, so that is another argument for a steel frame, especially in a larger gun, when learning/practicing trigger manipulations that will then transfer to the lighter/smaller gun.

Duelist is correct. Roy is kinda wrong.

I pulled out an LCR to see what it feels like. It's possible to stage an LCR, but the straight through pull through is what you need to learn. RJ Dry fire your LCR slowly, and you can feel what Roy was talking about. There is a point where you "could" slow down you trigger pull and stage, but instead, you should be realizing that your revolver is about to fire and just pull straight through. You really need a K-Frame. ;)

[BehindBlueI's]

Cold Steel's training guns are a pretty good deal.

https://www.coldsteel.com/specialty/trainers/guns/

Does the cylinder actually swing out? The LCR really looks like it has a functional crane in the photo, but I'm just really surprised if they took the extra steps to make it functional.

[BobM]

Does the cylinder actually swing out? The LCR really looks like it has a functional crane in the photo, but I'm just really surprised if they took the extra steps to make it functional.

No, it’s solid plastic

[Chuck Whitlock]

Does the cylinder actually swing out? The LCR really looks like it has a functional crane in the photo, but I'm just really surprised if they took the extra steps to make it functional.

Nope. Just really well molded.

[BehindBlueI's]

No, it’s solid plastic


Nope. Just really well molded.

I figured, I mean why go to that length on a training dummy, but it just looked so real I had to ask.

You figure they used one of those laser doo-dads that measures every nook and cranny of a real one and set that as the pattern? It's spot-on.

[Up1911Fan]

My favorite setup for around the house in sweatpants.
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[Elwin]

My favorite setup for around the house in sweatpants.

I really need a second Enigma for my LCR.

[Up1911Fan]

I really need a second Enigma for my LCR.

I have 3 Enigma's set up. I don't use them for daily carry, but I have them for specific uses. Mostly for a snub around the house in sweats or shorts. I also use one for when my shirt is tucked in in NPEish environments. It will never replace my main belt and holster, bit for my intended purpose nothing else comes close.

[Elwin]

I have 3 Enigma's set up. I don't use them for daily carry, but I have them for specific uses. Mostly for a snub around the house in sweats or shorts. I also use one for when my shirt is tucked in in NPEish environments. It will never replace my main belt and holster, bit for my intended purpose nothing else comes close.

I'm turning into the opposite - I'm using my Enigma set up for my 1911 for regular daily use, and attaching a gun to my belt is for specific occasions (usually days when I will have to take the gun off and put it back on because of what I'm doing). I've found it's both more comfortable and more concealed. Like you though, I need one for the LCR in part to see if I finally have a real tucked shirt option, and because I think it'll be perfect for when I don't want to feel like I'm carrying a gun.

[D-der]

Well, the Hiviz sight for my LCR 9 and my A Holster both showed up over the last week, the A Holster carries as well as I hoped, surprisingly well considering the Kydex pocket holsters I've tried prior were like having a brick in your pocket. I smoothed out the points a little and had the 38 in my pocket 14-15 hrs Thursday and it carry's very well. I got to run a quick 45 rd's through the 9mm with the Hiviz yesterday morning, I was half expecting I'd be putting the ruger sight back on because the Hiviz is taller but, it shoot's 147 Lawman to drive the dot at 7-8 yds and 124 S&B a little low but it's easily compensated for, I need to run HST's again to confirm POI. From the A Holster, at 7yd's, hand in pocket I was running 1.54-1.56 1st shot to the head box with 147's which is about as good as I'm gonna do from blue jean pockets. I did shoot a couple of cylinders at 20yd's, I was on a 10" plate but certainly need to spend more time at distance to figure the right sight picture, it was 18 degrees, I was kinda cold and done. I've got to get back to TK Custom for more moon clips though...

[frozentundra]

I have 3 Enigma's set up. I don't use them for daily carry, but I have them for specific uses. Mostly for a snub around the house in sweats or shorts. I also use one for when my shirt is tucked in in NPEish environments. It will never replace my main belt and holster, bit for my intended purpose nothing else comes close.

I also use these for very niche circumstances.

The Enigma is by far the best way I've found to carry while running long distances or fast intervals. It keeps the weight stable, centered, and low on my pelvis, which seems to have absolute minimal impact on my fluidity and range of motion compared to anything else I've tried. For me, it's way more stable and faster to access than the HPG kit bag.

The express model with sport belt brings it to the next level. I regularly run half marathon or longer distance trail runs with this setup. I was able to step up from an LCR in an original Enigma, to a P365 in the Enigma Express, without any noticeable downside from the slightly increased weight. The elastic sport belt allows just a bit of flex for unrestricted deep diaphragmatic breathing without losing position.

It's like magic.

[Duelist]

I also use these for very niche circumstances.

The Enigma is by far the best way I've found to carry while running long distances or fast intervals. It keeps the weight stable, centered, and low on my pelvis, which seems to have absolute minimal impact on my fluidity and range of motion compared to anything else I've tried. For me, it's way more stable and faster to access than the HPG kit bag.

The express model with sport belt brings it to the next level. I regularly run half marathon or longer distance trail runs with this setup. I was able to step up from an LCR in an original Enigma, to a P365 in the Enigma Express, without any noticeable downside from the slightly increased weight. The elastic sport belt allows just a bit of flex for unrestricted deep diaphragmatic breathing without losing position.

It's like magic.

If I was still a distance runner, you would have just sold me on it.

[03RN]

Speaking of running. I'm thinking I might want to grab a lcr for running. Right now I carry a g19 in a hpg fanny pack.

I mostly trail run and I'm actually tempted to grab the 22 or 22mag. How accurate are they typically? Would they also make good trainers for a 5yo? I'm thinking the 3" ones might work out pretty well.

[fatdog]

I had the 3" 22 WMR version for a while, accuracy was good with gold dots, but the trigger was HEAVY, could not even measure the DA pull on either of my spring scales because it was literally off the scale, >12 lbs. I was reluctant to go down the trigger tuning road with a rimfire revolver, because in the past I just ended up at some point with light strikes. I think that trigger would make it an awful choice for a 5 year old. I sent it down the road.

[03RN]

I had the 3" 22 WMR version for a while, accuracy was good with gold dots, but the trigger was HEAVY, could not even measure the DA pull on either of my spring scales because it was literally off the scale, >10 lbs. I was reluctant to go down the trigger tuning road with a rimfire revolver, because in the past I just ended up at some point with light strikes. I think that trigger would make it an awful choice for a 5 year old. I sent it down the road.

Hmm, good point. I've only ever shot the 2" .38 one.

[Navin Johnson]

Hmm, good point. I've only ever shot the 2" .38 one.

Fingered a 22 lcr the other day thinking of buying ...trigger was horrible. (I think a stock 340/642 is just fine)

[D-der]

My 3" is accurate, adjustable sights are a good thing but as mentioned, the trigger is off the scale stiff, not at all like my 38.

[Jamie]

I have LCR's in 9mm. .38 spl, .327 and .22.

I keep the .22 in my grab & go range bag so it, and along with my pocketed .38 get shot every week.
I completely agree the .22 trigger is heavy, too heavy for a child and was too heavy for my wife (RIP), but the .22 trigger is very, very smooth. The POA vs POI is low with the recommended XS sights I have on it. I tend to run 25-30 rounds on .22 through it the first thing each range session. I feel it helps with my trigger control on any other guns I'm shooting (Usually my .38 LCR and Glock).

Like I mentioned, the trigger on the .22 is HEAVY, but smooth and that little revolver is reliable to a fault. It has set off every piece of bulk and premium .22 LR I put into it.

I would love to see one with a 3-4 inch barrel and adjustable sights in the same size envelope...Red Dot capable too. Not a bigger bulked up frame. It could serve as a great "Kit Gun" in that format.

I am shooting my .327 (.32 S&WL and .32 H&R Mag) more frequently as I've allocated components and energy into loading them, but more especially since Lost River starting producing a .32 H&R mag load I can now carry for SD. But I would really appreciate Ruger making a .32 H&R mag version with a 3 inch barrel on the lighter weight frame... RD capable would be a plus.

You wouldn't think the 4 or so ounces weight difference would be so noticeable in a pocket, but it is.

I keep sticking my .38 (Hamre Forge grips) in my waistband or A Holster...

FWIW my centerfire LCR's all set off my $49.00/1000 SA (Servicios y Aventuras) primers with 100% reliability. Thumbs up to Ruger for that!

JMHO

[Gun Mutt]

Concur with Jamie, as I've said before and will doubtless repeat, My .22LCR is the single best training tool I've ever had whether dry or live fire.

[Totem Polar]

On the subject of that green cold steel rubber gun, I use mine to practice movement in structures.


I mean, I’m weird like that. But point being, it’s a nice “blue gun.”

[RJ]

I tend to run 25-30 rounds on .22 through it the first thing each range session. I feel it helps with my trigger control on any other guns I'm shooting (Usually my .38 LCR and Glock).



Great post. Just wanted to highlight the above; I hadn't actually realized how beneficial it was to take my LCR along (I have a .38) prior to shooting my other guns. I really should dry practice with it more.

[mikey357]

Great post. Just wanted to highlight the above; I hadn't actually realized how beneficial it was to take my LCR along (I have a .38) prior to shooting my other guns. I really should dry practice with it more.

Dryfire practice with a Revolver will provide more improvement in your shooting with ALL types of Handguns faster than anything else I know of...

[Clusterfrack]

...the trigger on the .22 is HEAVY, but smooth and that little revolver is reliable to a fault.

Are there reduced power hammer springs for LCR .22s? I only see them for centerfire LCRs (https://www.gunsprings.com/RUGER/LCR,+LCRx/cID3/mID52/dID458#1061).

[Jamie]

Are there reduced power hammer springs for LCR .22s? I only see them for centerfire LCRs (https://www.gunsprings.com/RUGER/LCR,+LCRx/cID3/mID52/dID458#1061).

I'm really quoting for follow-up answers to this.
I personally wouldn't want to risk the reliability for a lighter trigger. I don't find the weight to be a detriment, but then I'm not that good of a shot anyway LOL.

I'll keep the reliability. :)

[jandbj]

I mostly trail run and I'm actually tempted to grab the 22 or 22mag. How accurate are they typically? Would they also make good trainers for a 5yo? I'm thinking the 3" ones might work out pretty well.

The 3” LCRX in .38 would probably be perfect for your son. Since you reload making some 90 grain powder puff loads would be a good step up from primer powered wax bullet loads as a DA wheelgun.

[gtmtnbiker98]

Are there reduced power hammer springs for LCR .22s? I only see them for centerfire LCRs (https://www.gunsprings.com/RUGER/LCR,+LCRx/cID3/mID52/dID458#1061).

Why screw up a good thing?

[03RN]

The 3” LCRX in .38 would probably be perfect for your son. Since you reload making some 90 grain powder puff loads would be a good step up from primer powered wax bullet loads as a DA wheelgun.

Both the kids already have M64s. Charlie dryfires DA with me all the time.

[Clusterfrack]

Why screw up a good thing?

A lot of TDAs have heavily oversprung hammer springs, and it sounds like the LCR .22 may be as well. Why put up with a super heavy DA pull unnecessarily? Especially if it will be a non-life-safety gun.

[jandbj]

A lot of TDAs have heavily oversprung hammer springs, and it sounds like the LCR .22 may be as well. Why put up with a super heavy DA pull unnecessarily? Especially if it will be a non-life-safety gun.

My 43c after 10k rounds works great with a stock hammer spring from a 642.

Could always go the Wolff route on a stock centerfire LCR and try that now extra spring in a rimfire LCR… just being a good enabler here.

[BN]

Are there reduced power hammer springs for LCR .22s? I only see them for centerfire LCRs (https://www.gunsprings.com/RUGER/LCR,+LCRx/cID3/mID52/dID458#1061).

I never see videos or info about doing a trigger job on a LCR but there's lots of info on S&W trigger jobs. Why is that?

[Slice]

I’m very pleased with my .38 LCR. It goes with me when I walk the dogs our run a short errand in sweats. I’ve got about 4,000 trouble free rounds down range and it fits nicely in my pocket. I’m getting better with it too. Photos is from my 50 round range session today.

[D-der]

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I'm liking the LCR 9 pretty well with the Hiviz sight, 147gr Lawman drive the dot at 8-10 yds,
I was hitting low on steel at 20, gotta figure out poa when I get a little more time.

[jeep45238]

Could always go the Wolff route on a stock centerfire LCR and try that now extra spring in a rimfire LCR… just being a good enabler here.

Tried OEM centerfire spring and no luck on the Rimfire LCR - constant light strikes, so reduced will be worse.

Haven't bothered with looking for extra-power centerfire springs, but that's a good idea.


I never see videos or info about doing a trigger job on a LCR but there's lots of info on S&W trigger jobs. Why is that?

Light buffing and a a slightly lighter Wolff hammer spring in my .38 LCR resulted in a trigger pull that local Glock shooters thought was pleasant - I'd imagine you don't see many on them because there's not a whole lot of need?

[jandbj]

I don’t mind pulling the side plate off an S&W, but the few tutorials I’ve seen in detail stripping an LCR have kept me from trying a spring swap on even my centerfire one.

Though I have no complaints about the stock trigger, I’ve always been curious how it’d take to modification.

jeep45238
Thanks for the info!

[Jamie]

I don’t mind pulling the side plate off an S&W, but the few tutorials I’ve seen in detail stripping an LCR have kept me from trying a spring swap on even my centerfire one.

Though I have no complaints about the stock trigger, I’ve always been curious how it’d take to modification.

jeep45238
Thanks for the info!


Same here. I'm happy with my LCR triggers but have a want and probably need to know.

If anyone finds a good video tutorial on detail stripping an LCR please link.

TIA

[jandbj]

Same here. I'm happy with my LCR triggers but have a want and probably need to know.

If anyone finds a good video tutorial on detail stripping an LCR please link.

TIA


https://youtu.be/6oN09puNPKY?si=9Cc_lCPJZuTzZ7DC


https://youtu.be/jGU_SMlxjbo?si=8Ug5OBCi8LhaPwUZ

Watched both a few times and looked at the detailed pics in the exploded views… and I’m a wee bit intimidated & intrigued at the same time.


https://youtu.be/7AGrA0SpLWY?si=07rEhrS-wBkP982v

I give Ruger props for putting up their disassembly & reassembly videos… just wished they’d done more closeups.

[Jamie]

That was fast! :)

Thank you jandbj. I'll give them a watch.

I watched several vids before I ever attempted S&W disassembly. Pretty straight forward after several times. Need to get to that comfort level with LCRs.

[jeep45238]

I don’t mind pulling the side plate off an S&W, but the few tutorials I’ve seen in detail stripping an LCR have kept me from trying a spring swap on even my centerfire one.

Though I have no complaints about the stock trigger, I’ve always been curious how it’d take to modification.

jeep45238
Thanks for the info!

It's just a little different. Honestly, there's not a huge difference between taking an LCR and any other Ruger revolver - just be very, very cognizant of the cylinder latch spring, it's easy to loose or deform.

Thankfully, you can swap a hammer spring by pulling the grip and using a paper clip.

[jandbj]

It's just a little different. Honestly, there's not a huge difference between taking an LCR and any other Ruger revolver - just be very, very cognizant of the cylinder latch spring, it's easy to loose or deform.

Thankfully, you can swap a hammer spring by pulling the grip and using a paper clip.

Really? Didn’t think that was possible on an LCR. Thought you had to do the full disassembly to get the strut out from the top.

Done that plenty of times on J frames and now Taurus 856.

[BN]

Thanks for the videos. That confirmed my thoughts that the trigger on my LCR is just fine the way it is now.

[jeep45238]

Really? Didn’t think that was possible on an LCR. Thought you had to do the full disassembly to get the strut out from the top.

Done that plenty of times on J frames and now Taurus 856.

Confirm unloaded, remove grip.

Get paper clip, place gun in left hand, slowly press trigger to the rear. A small hole will become visible in the strut, insert paper clip, release trigger. Remove strut assembly.

Same
Thing applies on the 856, been a while on the J’s.

[lee n. field]

Same here. I'm happy with my LCR triggers but have a want and probably need to know.

If anyone finds a good video tutorial on detail stripping an LCR please link.

TIA

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[D-der]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AGrA0SpLWY&t=235s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AGrA0SpLWY&t=235s

Done by Ruger...

[RJ]

I ran across this older video by American Handgunner/Roy Huntington last night on shooting snubbies more accurately.

...



Just wanted to update this post.

I had tried some different variations of "staging" my LCR trigger, so I could understand how it felt, as well as a more or less "pull straight through". It was pretty interesting, I could be wrong, but it almost feels like the trigger pull actually DECREASES just after the mid point. (I should note I was pulling extremely slowly in dry practice, and really paying attention.)

At any rate, I used a few rounds of my new 2024 purchase of Federal Gold Medal Match 148 gr wadcutters in live fire this week. I can't say I'm a very good revolver shooter, but I was happier with how I shot after dry practice. Below is with a new B-8 target that I added a square aiming mark to I am playing with at seven yards with a dot hold.

Just passed through 700 rounds on the gun, no issues since purchase in 2019. Funnily enough, I have frequently thought about selling it but I always hesitate. I carry it mostly as a pocket gun taking out the trash, or going to the gym AIWB in a Dark Star Gear. I did pick up a spring pak of hammer spring options from Gunsprings dot net but I'm not really sure I want to learn how to break the gun down to swap them out as an experiment. The trigger press is 8.3 lbs, which seems to be manageable. It is pretty smooth at this point.

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[D-der]

Almost like spring yesterday, made a little time for my LCRX .22 3" before dark, I've gotta spend more time with this, it's accurate, inexpensive and fun.
The silhouette is 8-10yd's at a quick candence, the plate's at 25 with Mini Mags and Aguila super extra. I've got to spend more time and figure out the 25yd hold point114963114964114965114966

[BN]

I have mentioned on here before that the recoil on my 9mm LCR is very unpleasant to me so I leave the gun in the safe. I decided to make some reduced loads for plinking so I could shoot the gun.

I found that the 9mm and the 38 Short Colt were very close volume wise. I loaded some ammo with a beginning Short Colt Titegroup load and Bayou 135 round nose coated bullets. This averages 660 fps and is very pleasant to shoot.

I have the factory front sight painted green. I shot 5 of the first test loads at the IPSC steel at 15 yards and 4 at the square steel at 25 yards. It appears to be an accurate load as soon as I settled down and pressed the trigger correctly. I fired 1 shot at the 50 yard steel with a miss.

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[jandbj]

I have mentioned on here before that the recoil on my 9mm LCR is very unpleasant to me so I leave the gun in the safe. I decided to make some reduced loads for plinking so I could shoot the gun.

I found that the 9mm and the 38 Short Colt were very close volume wise. I loaded some ammo with a beginning Short Colt Titegroup load and Bayou 135 round nose coated bullets. This averages 660 fps and is very pleasant to shoot.

I have the factory front sight painted green. I shot 5 of the first test loads at the IPSC steel at 15 yards and 4 at the square steel at 25 yards. It appears to be an accurate load as soon as I settled down and pressed the trigger correctly. I fired 1 shot at the 50 yard steel with a miss.

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Good load & good shooting too!

[Jamie]

I have mentioned on here before that the recoil on my 9mm LCR is very unpleasant to me so I leave the gun in the safe. I decided to make some reduced loads for plinking so I could shoot the gun.

I found that the 9mm and the 38 Short Colt were very close volume wise. I loaded some ammo with a beginning Short Colt Titegroup load and Bayou 135 round nose coated bullets. This averages 660 fps and is very pleasant to shoot.




I agree. Good shooting!

If you don't mind sharing, what's the OAL of your load using the 135 gr Bayou bullets?

I like where you are going with this, especially as my arthritis rears it's ugly head.

[BN]

I agree. Good shooting!

If you don't mind sharing, what's the OAL of your load using the 135 gr Bayou bullets?

I like where you are going with this, especially as my arthritis rears it's ugly head.

1.135"OAL. I didn't want to adjust the dies on my 1050. I have been loading the same minor 147 grain bullet load for years. I interchange Bayou 147 flat point and 145 round nose without changing anything. I loaded a few of the 135 round nose and said, that looks about right and shot a few to test. I had to measure them to tell you. ;)

I only adjusted the powder measure.

Light loads are where it's at now.

[Jamie]

1.135"OAL. I didn't want to adjust the dies on my 1050. I have been loading the same minor 147 grain bullet load for years. I interchange Bayou 147 flat point and 145 round nose without changing anything. I loaded a few of the 135 round nose and said, that looks about right and shot a few to test. I had to measure them to tell you. ;)

I only adjusted the powder measure.

Light loads are where it's at now.

LOL. You and I are on the same load development page! :)

My 550 is/was set up for 9mm 147 gr FP Hoosier HiTek bullets at 1.130". Very minor adjustments needed.
I'll probably try a "looks about right" length with the below bullets as well.

I have a bit less than 1K of bullets we, as a group used to cast and PC (recovered indoor range lead mix), 124 gr mold that dropped at 130-132 gr. I've loaded at least 30K of them at a minor PF several years ago.
I'm gonna work up an LCR "reduced old guy" LCR load.

Using a starting load for 38 SC and Titegroup looks good.

Thank you.

Now I gotta replace my chrono... But what the heck. I'll chrono them after I shoot some ;)


sorry about the pic quality...
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[willie]

As a belly gun guy for decades have I have owned and used all factory models. Ruger outdid themselves when they designed the LCR. I've had a very long love affair with J frames but think the LCR is better. However, I must remember to let the LCR trigger go all the way forward. With the J I developed a terrible habit--riding the trigger forward.

[Gun Mutt]

I'm very happy for all the j-lovers that the Lipsey UCs are a thing. (Hell, I'm happy a major mfg listened to any SMEs at all & I hope the sell a bunch of 'em.) I've often opined that the only thing the j-frame could do better than the LCR was properly mount a Clip Draw that was actually useful. I was just sure a .32 UC was in my future.

To that end, I availed myself of the plethora of j's some friends own. I've been experimenting for about a month with a 642 w/Clip Draw and a 351PD in a pocket A-Holster. So as not to poo-poo on the jubilation in the Lipsey thread, I came here to share that for me:

1) After 10+yrs of AIWB, my body emphatically rejected the carry of pistols in that manner and even a Clip Draw j-frame (642 & 351PD) will be painful in less than 2hrs.

2) My .22 LCR with Bantam boot grips w/3M tape carries and conceals much better in a pocket A-Holster than the 351PD, even with very small VZ grips.

3) While a j-frame & Clip Draw work together with an A-Holster quite nicely, the Clip Draw makes the concealment outline even worse on the j-frame and plays hole(y) hell with blue jeans pockets.

4) My monkey-thumbed hands overwhelmingly prefer the LCR over the j-frame.

5) There is no .32 UC in my future.

[Navin Johnson]

Ruger should make a 32 (not 327) on the aluminum LCR. It would be lighter and less expensive than the Lipseys with change-able sights

I can false reset a J frame so I think all revos should be shot with a "full reset" (The LCR's is just longer than the J)

[SCCY Marshal]

Ruger should make a 32 (not 327) on the aluminum LCR...

Make it a 32 H&R Magnum for added flexibility and I'd buy two.

[D-der]

Anybody decide to go back to an OE front sight after trying alternative F/O, tritium or Big Dot ?

[Noah]

I'm very happy for all the j-lovers that the Lipsey UCs are a thing. (Hell, I'm happy a major mfg listened to any SMEs at all & I hope the sell a bunch of 'em.) I've often opined that the only thing the j-frame could do better than the LCR was properly mount a Clip Draw that was actually useful. I was just sure a .32 UC was in my future.

To that end, I availed myself of the plethora of j's some friends own. I've been experimenting for about a month with a 642 w/Clip Draw and a 351PD in a pocket A-Holster. So as not to poo-poo on the jubilation in the Lipsey thread, I came here to share that for me:

1) After 10+yrs of AIWB, my body emphatically rejected the carry of pistols in that manner and even a Clip Draw j-frame (642 & 351PD) will be painful in less than 2hrs.

2) My .22 LCR with Bantam boot grips w/3M tape carries and conceals much better in a pocket A-Holster than the 351PD, even with very small VZ grips.

3) While a j-frame & Clip Draw work together with an A-Holster quite nicely, the Clip Draw makes the concealment outline even worse on the j-frame and plays hole(y) hell with blue jeans pockets.

4) My monkey-thumbed hands overwhelmingly prefer the LCR over the j-frame.

5) There is no .32 UC in my future.

Why do you think the LCR carries better for you than the J?

[PNWTO]

Anybody decide to go back to an OE front sight after trying alternative F/O, tritium or Big Dot ?

I kept a FO on the 3” but went back to OEM on all the littles.




5) There is no .32 UC in my future.

Same, I hope it sells well and encourages some further development but I’m too much into the LCR to change. Plus, it (LCR) just works better for myself.