Wonder if gray guns will ever make a long extractor?
It seems SIG is still experiencing serious QC issues from reading the thread. I'm going to be honest, I've never been around where they didn't have wishy washy QC to my knowledge. It's a shame, based on their reputation they used to have a high standard in the good old days.
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When I talked to our Sig LE rep back in 13 about QC issues, he told me that Sig was in the process of building a new facility in the US so they could stop outsourcing their MIM parts due to the QC issues. Don't know if that ever happened.
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The success of the Legion series shows that there is a market for higher end SIGs among the general shooting population. I think that the days of the P-series being a viable contender in the LE market are done, regardless of how well or poorly SIG makes them--they can't compete with striker guns cost-wise, and there's the perception that no one can shoot DA/SA as well as a striker. However, if SIG expanded on the Legion marketing trend by offering guns with tight QC, accuracy standards, and fully machined parts, I think they would sell a pile of them as status symbol guns alone. That way they could have the best of both worlds--military/LE contracts and the EDC CCW for the P320, and the luxury perception of the P-series guns, with both lines being profitable, albeit for different reasons and in different markets.
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I was pretty excited for them...until I held one. Reports of canted sights were made here on PF and in other places upon release. Finish issues were also reported. "Higher end" didn't extend to better QC.
I wonder if the same marketing could be applied, though. Isn't the Mk25 "that gun" already? Better internals and whatnot? (Seriously, I'm asking)
Prett sure the Mk25 is no different than a standard short extractor, except has phosphate on the internals (and most people probabl don't know that it only serves as a carrier for lubricant, no more, no less), and has a label on it of an anchor/upc.
Frankly, I think the higher end ones people here are talking about buying for the extra money do exist- the X5/X6/Xshort series.
SIG is not the only one outsourcing small parts to India and Brazil. Where do you think Glock extractors are made ?
In fact my understanding is Glock originally had the LCI extractors made in Brazil and switched to having them made in India right around the time Glocks started having a higher incidence of tolerance stacking and BTF issues.