The great thing about the P30 is the safety lever is just that. A safety leverOriginally Posted by JodyH
. Decock function is on the back of the slide so you don't have the issue like a USP or HK45 series. So no need for the variant 9 plates eliminate the decock function.
Last edited by CDFIII; 12-02-2017 at 07:47 PM.
Not an operator, but I can't see any reason why that's not a viable option. My biggest concern would be the hammer sticking out like that and getting snagged on something.Hypothetically speaking if a guy has hands big enough to run a P30s cocked and locked and reliably work the safety on and off every time does anyone see an issue running the gun this way?
I put sights on a friends P30Ls this morning and took it out for a run at the range. This guy will probably shoot this gun 2-3 times a year running a total of maybe 300rds. through it if he is lucky. Not much of shooter but a truly good friend. So I decided to give his P30Ls a break in for him and I wanted to actually shoot with these sights before the pistol was locked away from the light of day.
So I ran around 400rds. of various brands and weights from the gun to test function. I ran it all but maybe 50rds. in single action using the safety 1911 style. I had better times running drills and it actually felt pretty good. No issues working the safety from concealed draws or snicking it back on when needed. I rode it like I do on 1911's and it seemed to work for me just fine. After shooting 400rds. or so I noticed 0 hotspots on my thumb and all seemed fine.
I have a couple of P30l guns in V3 and I shoot them just fine. DA has been tweaked just like most others do here with light FPB and nickel sear spring... But Damn it running the P30Ls in cocked and locked fashion was just down right fun to shoot. I have to give his gun back and after putting some sights on it I am really thinking about duplicating it or possibly just stealing his. Soooo..Anyone see any issues running the gun in this fashion?
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I couldn't remember if the P30 had the rear slide de-cocker or not, carry on then.The great thing about the P30 is the safety lever is just that. A safety lever
Last edited by JodyH; 12-02-2017 at 07:50 PM.
"For a moment he felt good about this. A moment or two later he felt bad about feeling good about it. Then he felt good about feeling bad about feeling good about it and, satisfied, drove on into the night."
-- Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy --
I had that thought as well. After shooting it this morning I proceeded to through it in a 5 Shot Leather SME and take my toddler out for the day. 9 hours of AIWB and being a human jungle gym and I nor he even noticed the hammer so i might be ok there. For some reason it just feels so wrong how much I like this gun.
If I were going to do it (the cocked-n-locked method), and assuming it's possible with the right combination of parts, I'd probably start with a V3S, convert it to V0 and use a bobbed hammer instead of spurred. You'd have a safety, a decocker, a DA pull on decock, and a LEM trigger otherwise (assuming I'm reading right how a V0 works.)
Wouldn’t going to VO basically be creating a P30LEM with safety therefore eliminating the single action (the part I like) all together? I could swap out the hammer to a spur less but I don’t think I would loose much length.
Last edited by CDFIII; 12-02-2017 at 08:10 PM.
The Decocker on the P30 is a separate button on the back of the slide.
https://pistol-forum.com/showthread....-a-P30S-V1-LEM
just popped up on my searching.
also P30LS LEM does exist (good luck finding one though), if you don't want the decock function.
ETA: there's exactly 1 P30LS LEM on gunbroker, but it's a .40S&W and they want stupid money for it.
I have one of the P30LS LEM 9mm Pistols. It is such a smart combination but I understand why there isn’t a huge demand for these in the US LEO market. PD Firearms training is almost universally to a standard instead of true performance. The addition of a manual safety to an LEM gun would likely dry the average cop’s brain.
If I could choose my own duty weapon to carry at work tomorrow, it would likely be the P30LS LEM. But that’s because I understand and appreciate it’s merit.
Apparently this configuration is the new standard issue sidearm for the Norwegian SF Teams.
I don't think hand size by itself matters that much. IIRC, both @YVK and @GJM have tried the safeties on the H&Ks and found them wanting, due to their positioning; conversely, I've shot mine exclusively in C&L, and have only occasionally had minor abrasion at the base of the thumb. I wear size small Outdoor Research gloves, and size medium medical gloves; due to my exclusive experience with H&K safeties (~3606 rounds through a V9 HK45, ~27324 through my V3 P30LSes) I tend to find 1911 safeties sit too low for me.
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