New 365 looks like! P365x macro

[Hstanton1]

Where did you see a new module?

The second photo down in the “features” section of the linked page.

[HeavyDuty]

I wonder what the new “macro compact grip module” is, and if the manual safety is the same design as on the regular 365s

I think that’s just adspeak - the capacities are the same between the two models. But I agree, I’m very curious about the MS. I’m hoping a Macro grip module and magazines would work for me on my XL.

[HeavyDuty]

The second photo down in the “features” section of the linked page.

Isn’t that just the current Macro grip module?

[Hstanton1]

Isn’t that just the current Macro grip module?

It sure looks like it, the wording has me confused though. Also, sig being sig it might be different enough that it effects holster/mag compatibility.

[Noah]

It sure looks like it, the wording has me confused though. Also, sig being sig it might be different enough that it effects holster/mag compatibility.

I believe they are just referring to the standard Macro module.

[Noah]

I believe they are just referring to the standard Macro module.


Just confirmed, the pages for the Macro Comp, Macro Tacops, and Macro Comp Romeo Zero all use the "Macro-Compact" verbiage.

[maximus83]

https://www.sigsauer.com/p365-xmacro-1.html

3.7” barrel, manual safety.

Good news! Looks like the pic on the website today doesn't show the MS. But there's definitely a SKU with MS in the specs table: 365XCA-9-BXR3-MS.

[Brianjkeene]

Really a big fan of these Boresight Macro back straps.

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[G19Fan]

Really a big fan of these Boresight Macro back straps.

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What size is that one and how does the backstrap impact the gun index?

[Brianjkeene]

What size is that one and how does the backstrap impact the gun index?

This is the large and, somehow, no noticeable change in index vs the factory large.

[G19Fan]

This is the large and, somehow, no noticeable change in index vs the factory large.

Thank you! I am randomly tempted to try one of these

[Brianjkeene]

Thank you! I am randomly tempted to try one of these

I wear XL size gloves and this backstrap really helps open up space for my support hand. Love it.

[G19Fan]

I wear XL size gloves and this backstrap really helps open up space for my support hand. Love it.

Makes sense! Luckily don't have that issue but I wonder if this fills the palm better for recoil control. Would prob need to run the medium

[Brianjkeene]

Makes sense! Luckily don't have that issue but I wonder if this fills the palm better for recoil control. Would prob need to run the medium

I’ll try and get some more pics that shows how it fits the hand better but, yes, between it and the mag well, my hand is better “locked” in.

[G19Fan]

I’ll try and get some more pics that shows how it fits the hand better but, yes, between it and the mag well, my hand is better “locked” in.

Appreciate it!

[Brianjkeene]

Appreciate it!

Not sure if this helps or not but here are a couple of pics

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[G19Fan]

Not sure if this helps or not but here are a couple of pics

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Super helpful! Thanks!

[lwt16]

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P365 Tacops. It seems to hate 147 grain jhp.

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[Up1911Fan]

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P365 Tacops. It seems to hate 147 grain jhp.

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Hmm, brand new? I've shot nothing but 147gr through my P365 series guns without issue. Including close to a case of Gold Dot.

[lwt16]

Hmm, brand new? I've shot nothing but 147gr through my P365 series guns without issue. Including close to a case of Gold Dot.

No, I’m probably less than a case but more than 500 rounds. Remington Golden Saber bonded was the worst performer. Winchester Ranger T ran better but I did have a FTF with it. 124 HST seemed fine.

I should have removed the TLR7a to see if that had any affect. My P365, my son’s p365, and my 365X haven’t had an issue with 147.

Keeping an eye on it.

[Up1911Fan]

No, I’m probably less than a case but more than 500 rounds. Remington Golden Saber bonded was the worst performer. Winchester Ranger T ran better but I did have a FTF with it. 124 HST seemed fine.

I should have removed the TLR7a to see if that had any affect. My P365, my son’s p365, and my 365X haven’t had an issue with 147.

Keeping an eye on it.

Please update as you keep an eye on performance. I've only got a few hundred through a Macro with a TLR-7 Sub, but it's been good so far.

[davisj]

Not sure if this helps or not but here are a couple of pics

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Super unhelpful, cost me a C note. Thanks! 😂

[G19Fan]

No, I’m probably less than a case but more than 500 rounds. Remington Golden Saber bonded was the worst performer. Winchester Ranger T ran better but I did have a FTF with it. 124 HST seemed fine.

I should have removed the TLR7a to see if that had any affect. My P365, my son’s p365, and my 365X haven’t had an issue with 147.

Keeping an eye on it.

One data point only but my macros with xl or 365 slides have been fine with HST, Gold Dots and Ranger T

[js475]

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My P365X Macro does the exact same thing with 147gr HST. I suspect it may have something to do with the magazines since my XL works just fine with the same ammo. Mine's on its way back to Sig as I'm writing this.

[lwt16]

My P365X Macro does the exact same thing with 147gr HST. I suspect it may have something to do with the magazines since my XL works just fine with the same ammo. Mine's on its way back to Sig as I'm writing this.

Interesting. Let me know if they rectify the issue and how they do so.

I assume you’re not running a light on yours?

[js475]

Interesting. Let me know if they rectify the issue and how they do so.

I assume you’re not running a light on yours?

No light on mine.

[Brianjkeene]

Super unhelpful, cost me a C note. Thanks! 😂

I decided to stick with my Shadow Systems and listed my boresight backstrap and module in the classifieds here. Trying to have discipline to stick with one platform and just shoot more.

[Up1911Fan]

Boresite X Macro chopped for 12rd XL mags compared to an XL. This new module feels just about perfect to me. Fills my hand better than the XL, shorter grip conceals better than the Macro. Have the ability to keep one as a WML gun ( the TLR-7 Sub for the P365 rail sucks). I've always gravitated to carrying a mid size gun (G19, M&P 2.0 Compact, P229), this gun only gives up a couple rounds to those, yet is still a full handful for me. I'll have a trio of these in the next few weeks and plan to use them almost exclusively for the next few years with the exception of a J Frame in the pocket and a standard P365 in an Enigma for true deep concealment.
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[jandbj]

Boresite X Macro chopped for 12rd XL mags compared to an XL. This new module feels just about perfect to me. Fills my hand better than the XL, shorter grip conceals better than the Macro. Have the ability to keep one as a WML gun ( the TLR-7 Sub for the P365 rail sucks). I've always gravitated to carrying a mid size gun (G19, M&P 2.0 Compact, P229), this gun only gives up a couple rounds to those, yet is still a full handful for me. I'll have a trio of these in the next few weeks and plan to use them almost exclusively for the next few years with the exception of a J Frame in the pocket and a standard P365 in an Enigma for true deep concealment.
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Those pics of the chopped/channeled/razorbacked macro frame make me wish GAP/Gee plates made a base plate for the P365 series mags. But since they’ve gone the way of the dodo, I guess someone with a 3D printer will have to come up with one. I love those things on my G42 & G26. They make the draw more consistent for me.

[PTSDog]

jandbj they do!

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[vandal]

Finally got to shoot my home-brew cut-down Macro grip with Razorback insert. Shoots like a stock G19 now, much less flippy in my big hands.

Had a "rapid unscheduled disassembly" of my EPS Carry battery tray due to forgetting to loctite the screw, but had a spare EPS carry on hand. Otherwise really happy with this combo.

[wmu12071]

Is the chopped macro frame that much bigger around? I know it is slightly larger but I have never shot a Macro to know how much better it is.

[G19Fan]

Is the chopped macro frame that much bigger around? I know it is slightly larger but I have never shot a Macro to know how much better it is.

Persoanlly like it much more and I have small to medium hands. Macro with large backstrap is perfect

[Biggy]

Because of the drop in FCU you can configure the P365 anyway *you* want it. This P365XL is currently getting a Monsoon Tactical Hel port job done to it. Other than that it will be getting an Armory Craft extended slide release and hopefully at some point in the near future a little larger manual thumb safety lever and it will be pretty much complete.

http://i.imgur.com/KaP7Nzrh.jpg (https://imgur.com/KaP7Nzr)

[G19Fan]

I think that’s just adspeak - the capacities are the same between the two models. But I agree, I’m very curious about the MS. I’m hoping a Macro grip module and magazines would work for me on my XL.

If you want a macro frame with a manual safety and/or a p365 manual safety give me a shout. Have a frame being picked up tomorrow (I ordered the wrong gun)

[GJM]

Because of the drop in FCU you can configure the P365 anyway *you* want it. This P365XL is currently getting a Monsoon Tactical Hel port job done to it. Other than that it will be getting an Armory Craft extended slide release and hopefully at some point in the near future a little larger manual thumb safety lever and it will be pretty much complete.

http://i.imgur.com/KaP7Nzrh.jpg (https://imgur.com/KaP7Nzr)

If you are going to carry a small pistol like that, I think you need a larger knife!

[Biggy]

If you are going to carry a small pistol like that, I think you need a larger knife!

You know I think you’re right, seeing my last name is Rambo. LOL !!

[HCM]

Saw a SIG factory non comp Macro with manual safety yesterday at my LGS.

https://dkfirearms.com/product/sig-sauer-p365-xmacro-9mm-manual-safety/

SKU 365XCA-9-BXR3-MS

[js475]

Interesting. Let me know if they rectify the issue and how they do so.

I assume you’re not running a light on yours?

I got my gun back from Sig last week. Pretty quick turnaround. All they did was replace the magazines that I had sent with the gun (I sent both mags that I had). Got it out to the range over the weekend and so far so good. Ran probably 150 fmj and 2 mags of 147 gr HST with no issues.

Not sure if I just got unlucky with getting 2 bad mags or if there's another problem with the gun that will reveal itself in a future range trip. If it's the former I'm wondering if the mag design is just inherently less reliable given how many rounds they're trying to cram in such a small package. Compared to my old mags, the new ones are very difficult to seat when loaded to full capacity. I don't remember my original mags being this hard to seat even when brand new.

I'll keep shooting it and see what happens.

[lwt16]

I got my gun back from Sig last week. Pretty quick turnaround. All they did was replace the magazines that I had sent with the gun (I sent both mags that I had). Got it out to the range over the weekend and so far so good. Ran probably 150 fmj and 2 mags of 147 gr HST with no issues.

Not sure if I just got unlucky with getting 2 bad mags or if there's another problem with the gun that will reveal itself in a future range trip. If it's the former I'm wondering if the mag design is just inherently less reliable given how many rounds they're trying to cram in such a small package. Compared to my old mags, the new ones are very difficult to seat when loaded to full capacity. I don't remember my original mags being this hard to seat even when brand new.

I'll keep shooting it and see what happens.

Hmmm. Wondering if they changed the follower to feed 147 jhp better? Any chance you could disassemble one of the new mags and post a pic of the follower?

If not, I understand.

Knowing Sig it wouldn’t surprise me that they quietly changed something.

Regards.

[RJ]

Compared to my old mags, the new ones are very difficult to seat when loaded to full capacity.



FWIW, every single one of my 365 mags (10, 12, 15, 17) are like that (extremely stiff) when inserted Almost takes the Jaws of Life to load them. No issues in 1,132 rounds, including perhaps 50 Federal 147 HST carry ammo in that total.

[G19Fan]

Hmmm. Wondering if they changed the follower to feed 147 jhp better? Any chance you could disassemble one of the new mags and post a pic of the follower?

If not, I understand.

Knowing Sig it wouldn’t surprise me that they quietly changed something.

Regards.

Would not be surprised by this either

[Biggy]

Here are some pics I just took of some disassembled P365X Macro mags. I got one of them the day they were released on Sig's website and I got the other one a couple of weeks ago from Sig. I looked both of them over pretty good and also used my dial calibers to check dimensions on the followers, mag bodies and springs. I found no meaningful differences in any of the magazine components dimensions.

https://i.imgur.com/AsQ29fIl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/OFehbmTl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/qPudCNRl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/DCobyJyl.jpg

[RJ]

MS grip module in coyote online in the Sig Store.

https://www.sigsauer.com/p365-xmacro-grip-manual-safety-grip-module-assembly-coyote-brown.html

MS grip module in black "coming soon".

https://www.abprototype.com/sig-sauer-p365-x-macro-grip-module-manual-safety-black/

[vandal]

Custom back straps for Macros.

I have two Boresight Razorback Macro inserts but these look good as well and 1/2 the price.

FDEZWorks Macro inserts

https://fdezwerx.com/macro-back-straps/

[ssb]

Custom back straps for Macros.

I have two Boresight Razorback Macro inserts but these look good as well and 1/2 the price.

FDEZWorks Macro inserts

https://fdezwerx.com/macro-back-straps/

I was waiting for somebody to make something like this. Ordered a pair.

[RJ]

I have seen the Boresight Razorback and now these FDEZ backstraps for the Macro...question?

I have M hands, and typically don't use a backstrap on a G19 or G34; my P365XL fits me almost perfectly. Are these grip modules/backstraps with the big hump in the rear meant for folks with larger hands? Or do they somehow have some other advantage in terms of overall hand position that I am missing?

I have an interest in trying a Razorback grip module, but the cost of one from Boresight is way too spendy for me. A Medium FDEZ backstrap is in the cost range of what I can allocate for an experiment like this, but I was curious whether it would be a waste of time given my hand size...?

[ssb]

I have seen the Boresight Razorback and now these FDEZ backstraps for the Macro...question?

I have M hands, and typically don't use a backstrap on a G19 or G34; my P365XL fits me almost perfectly. Are these grip modules/backstraps with the big hump in the rear meant for folks with larger hands? Or do they somehow have some other advantage in terms of overall hand position that I am missing?

I have an interest in trying a Razorback grip module, but the cost of one from Boresight is way too spendy for me. A Medium FDEZ backstrap is in the cost range of what I can allocate for an experiment like this, but I was curious whether it would be a waste of time given my hand size...?

I have medium hands and generally do not use Glock backstraps.

I find the standard P365/XL frame too small front-to-back, and this leaves less space for my support hand. A Boresight Razorback P365XL module was at the bottom end of “big enough” but I would have preferred more trigger reach. The Wilson module is an improvement. The Macro with a large backstrap is a bit better than the Wilson for me. My hope is these new backstraps will further fill out my hand.

[RJ]

I have medium hands and generally do not use Glock backstraps.

I find the standard P365/XL frame too small front-to-back, and this leaves less space for my support hand. A Boresight Razorback P365XL module was at the bottom end of “big enough” but I would have preferred more trigger reach. The Wilson module is an improvement. The Macro with a large backstrap is a bit better than the Wilson for me. My hope is these new backstraps will further fill out my hand.

Excellent, thank you. That’s just the feedback I was looking for.

[G19Fan]

I have seen the Boresight Razorback and now these FDEZ backstraps for the Macro...question?

I have M hands, and typically don't use a backstrap on a G19 or G34; my P365XL fits me almost perfectly. Are these grip modules/backstraps with the big hump in the rear meant for folks with larger hands? Or do they somehow have some other advantage in terms of overall hand position that I am missing?

I have an interest in trying a Razorback grip module, but the cost of one from Boresight is way too spendy for me. A Medium FDEZ backstrap is in the cost range of what I can allocate for an experiment like this, but I was curious whether it would be a waste of time given my hand size...?

I have smaller but thick hands. A macro large works well for me but do think a big mote backstrap would fill out my brand better

[js475]

Wanted to provide an update on the nosedive issues with my X Macro. I had sent it back to Sig and they just replaced the magazines.

Now I think I've figured out that the problem is partly with me. This gun (or more likely the mags) seems very sensitive to limp wristing. Thinking back, almost every time the gun malfunctioned I was doing some one handed accuracy drill where I wasn't focusing as much on managing recoil or holding the gun very tight. It rarely if ever malfunctioned with a 2 handed firing grip. I'd consider myself a fairly experienced pistol shooter. I've never had an issue with limp wristing with any other pistol I've owned (Glocks, Sigs, M&Ps, 1911/2011s).

This was confirmed last weekend when I brought a relatively new female shooter to the range and let her shoot the X Macro. The same nosedive malfunction occured like 50-60% of the time when she was shooting it. Sure enough when I tried barely holding onto the gun with 2-3 fingers, I could replicate this malfunction nearly 100% of the time.

I happened to have my P365XL with me, and I swapped the slides to see what would happen. The XL slide on the Macro frame malfunctioned consistently when I held the gun lightly. However the Macro comp slide on my XL frame with 12 rd mags ran 100% even when I was barely holding onto the gun with 2 fingers. I was shooting 124gr S&B and Fiocchi FMJ, so fairly good quality target ammo. The Macro has about 6-800 rounds fired total so far.

Curious if anyone else has noticed this?

[breakingtime91]

Wanted to provide an update on the nosedive issues with my X Macro. I had sent it back to Sig and they just replaced the magazines.

Now I think I've figured out that the problem is partly with me. This gun (or more likely the mags) seems very sensitive to limp wristing. Thinking back, almost every time the gun malfunctioned I was doing some one handed accuracy drill where I wasn't focusing as much on managing recoil or holding the gun very tight. It rarely if ever malfunctioned with a 2 handed firing grip. I'd consider myself a fairly experienced pistol shooter. I've never had an issue with limp wristing with any other pistol I've owned (Glocks, Sigs, M&Ps, 1911/2011s).

This was confirmed last weekend when I brought a relatively new female shooter to the range and let her shoot the X Macro. The same nosedive malfunction occured like 50-60% of the time when she was shooting it. Sure enough when I tried barely holding onto the gun with 2-3 fingers, I could replicate this malfunction nearly 100% of the time.

I happened to have my P365XL with me, and I swapped the slides to see what would happen. The XL slide on the Macro frame malfunctioned consistently when I held the gun lightly. However the Macro comp slide on my XL frame with 12 rd mags ran 100% even when I was barely holding onto the gun with 2 fingers. I was shooting 124gr S&B and Fiocchi FMJ, so fairly good quality target ammo. The Macro has about 6-800 rounds fired total so far.

Curious if anyone else has noticed this?


That is concerning

[RJ]

https://youtu.be/sqIzetF7SIw

18:06 Description of planned WC Macro grip module.

“They are coming”.

[1More]

The black MS Macro grips are in stock. Yes, I ordered one before sharing.
:D

https://www.sigsauer.com/p365-xmacro-grip-manual-safety-grip-module-assembly-black.html

[Kanye Wyoming]

Sometimes it’s the little things. The LTT Grip Anchor transforms the G19 grip for someone with larger hands into something like a G45 without the grip height of a G45.

Now comes the FDEZ Werks FDEZ-3 blackstrap for the Macro grip module. $39.95. https://fdezwerx.com/fdez-3/

Mine arrived today, and boy does it feel good. Makes a Macro feel almost the same as a double stack grip. Maybe as good, a few range trips will tell the tale.

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[G19Fan]

Sometimes it’s the little things. The LTT Grip Anchor transforms the G19 grip for someone with larger hands into something like a G45 without the grip height of a G45.

Now comes the FDEZ Werks FDEZ-3 blackstrap for the Macro grip module. $39.95. https://fdezwerx.com/fdez-3/

Mine arrived today, and boy does it feel good. Makes a Macro feel almost the same as a double stack grip. Maybe as good, a few range trips will tell the tale.

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Nice! I have small to medium hands and i like mod 1.

Normally I run boresight but Mod 1 is nice

[ssb]

I went with the FDEZ-2. So far I’m happy - more space for my support hand, which is what I was after. Very reminiscent of something that costs about $100 elsewhere.

The pin holes on my samples are rather tight compared to OEM. Took a hammer and punch to install.

[Kanye Wyoming]

Sometimes it’s the little things. The LTT Grip Anchor transforms the G19 grip for someone with larger hands into something like a G45 without the grip height of a G45.

Now comes the FDEZ Werks FDEZ-3 blackstrap for the Macro grip module. $39.95. https://fdezwerx.com/fdez-3/

Mine arrived today, and boy does it feel good. Makes a Macro feel almost the same as a double stack grip. Maybe as good, a few range trips will tell the tale.

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Went to the range today and went through 115 rounds with the FDEZ-3. This thing is legit. I’ve never felt so much in control of the Macro. It genuinely pains me to say this but I preferred it to the large Boresight Razorback backstrap.

[G19Fan]

Went to the range today and went through 115 rounds with the FDEZ-3. This thing is legit. I’ve never felt so much in control of the Macro. It genuinely pains me to say this but I preferred it to the large Boresight Razorback backstrap.


Yeah it I awfully close between the two. I am tempted to five the fdez 3 another shot

[lordhamster]

Just got a non-comped x-macro with the 3.7inch barrel last week. As someone with freakishly small hands, I have to say I love the grip. It is by far the best "full size" grip I've used for my hands.



Went to the range today and went through 115 rounds with the FDEZ-3. This thing is legit. I’ve never felt so much in control of the Macro. It genuinely pains me to say this but I preferred it to the large Boresight Razorback backstrap.

[G19Fan]

Just got a non-comped x-macro with the 3.7inch barrel last week. As someone with freakishly small hands, I have to say I love the grip. It is by far the best "full size" grip I've used for my hands.


Agreed small hands too. Try a boresight large or a fdez3. You may be pleasantly surprised

[Brianjkeene]

Any intel is these will start to be pitched as dirt guns for females or those with smaller hands? I just really want a Safariland ALS holster for it still. Also, any other talk about that longer slide version that leaked a while back?

[Up1911Fan]

I'm really hoping for an RDS ALS option. I'm also in for two of the long slides when they are available. I'm pretty much down to 365 series guns and snubs at this point, aside from a few fun/sentimental pistols.

[vandal]

Also interested in a longer slide version, mostly so people will start making longer holsters that prevent roll-out!


Also, any other talk about that longer slide version that leaked a while back?

[G19Fan]

Also interested in a longer slide version, mostly so people will start making longer holsters that prevent roll-out!

Enigma still solves this problem!

[G19Fan]

I'm really hoping for an RDS ALS option. I'm also in for two of the long slides when they are available. I'm pretty much down to 365 series guns and snubs at this point, aside from a few fun/sentimental pistols.


I am the same. 8 p365s and one g19 and like 2 other rotating pistols (mostly there to relieve boredom of only shooting p365s)

[maximus83]

8 p365s

Now THAT....is a true P365 fan!

Thought I was at the risk of overkill when I ended up with two XL's and a TacOps. :)

[G19Fan]

Now THAT....is a true P365 fan!

Thought I was at the risk of overkill when I ended up with two XL's and a TacOps. :)



To be fair 5 are mine, 3 are my wife's lol

[wmu12071]

Also interested in a longer slide version, mostly so people will start making longer holsters that prevent roll-out!

I agree with this SOOO much.

[MDFA]

I am the same. 8 p365s and one g19 and like 2 other rotating pistols (mostly there to relieve boredom of only shooting p365s)

We have 4, obviously I have a goal to work towards...

[D-der]

Only 3 here, unless of coarse you assemble spare parts, an XL slide with a PMM comp makes for an effective long slide.

[G19Fan]

We have 4, obviously I have a goal to work towards...


Yeah I keep buying random pistol x shooting it a few hundred to thousand rounds then selling it for random pistol y

I do put between 10 to 12k through my training p365xl macro yearly, and love it, but sometimes need some variety.

[RJ]

Wilson Macro Grip Module: “Mid July”, Bill Wilson @ 17:02:


https://youtu.be/9CrrHeOrrIo

[MDFA]

For anyone who is looking for a 365 FCU. This has an X FCU, X Macro Grip Module and 2- 17 round mags and case for $329 or you can bid. I have one on the way.
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/993417497

[RJ]

For anyone who is looking for a 365 FCU. This has an X FCU, X Macro Grip Module and 2- 17 round mags and case for $329 or you can bid. I have one on the way.
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/993417497

Holy crap if I hadn't just picked up another used FCU I would be all over this.

[G19Fan]

For anyone who is looking for a 365 FCU. This has an X FCU, X Macro Grip Module and 2- 17 round mags and case for $329 or you can bid. I have one on the way.
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/993417497


I don't need a 9th I don't need a 9th

[MDFA]

I don't need a 9th I don't need a 9th

Resistance is futile. This is completing a 3.1 X Slide I have.

I think you need to change your user name... Just Saying.:D

[G19Fan]

Resistance is futile. This is completing a 3.1 X Slide I have.

I think you need to change your user name... Just Saying.:D


Ha this is true. This was pre macro

[G19Fan]

Resistance is futile. This is completing a 3.1 X Slide I have.

I think you need to change your user name... Just Saying.:D


Short slide and full macro grip does shoot very nicely

[MDFA]

Short slide and full macro grip does shoot very nicely

I'll have to try it out today. :cool:

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[G19Fan]

I'll have to try it out today. :cool:

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How was it? I like the recoil impulse

[Up1911Fan]

I'll have to try it out today. :cool:

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Did you cut the dustcover back on that?

[MDFA]

Did you cut the dustcover back on that?

Yes

[Up1911Fan]

Yes

Makes sense now, I thought my eye's were playing tricks on me this morning. I might just have to go that route as I currently have a few grip chopped Macro's and a lone P365 as my small gun. I prefer the grip of the Macro.

[MDFA]

Makes sense now, I thought my eye's were playing tricks on me this morning. I might just have to go that route as I currently have a few grip chopped Macro's and a lone P365 as my small gun. I prefer the grip of the Macro.

I have a Wilson Combat Grip Module on that slide, or I can use the Macro Grip if I want. Kind of like pistol Legos.

[G19Fan]

Makes sense now, I thought my eye's were playing tricks on me this morning. I might just have to go that route as I currently have a few grip chopped Macro's and a lone P365 as my small gun. I prefer the grip of the Macro.

I have done this (chopped dust cover) and a chopped grip (from someone else). Both work great

[HeavyDuty]

Anyone seen more on a Wilson Macro grip module?

[Up1911Fan]

Anyone seen more on a Wilson Macro grip module?

I thought they said end of July? I could be wrong though.

[RJ]

Anyone seen more on a Wilson Macro grip module?

Bill said ‘mid July’ I believe.

[G19Fan]

Anyone seen more on a Wilson Macro grip module?

Think mid to end of July

[HeavyDuty]

I didn’t hear mention in the video that was linked, but I don’t absorb well from videos. I was hoping some additional supporting leaks would have popped up.

[RJ]

I didn’t hear mention in the video that was linked, but I don’t absorb well from videos. I was hoping some additional supporting leaks would have popped up.

13:23, I think. I made a mistype in my earlier post.

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[HeavyDuty]

Still nothing from Wilson. The combination of a reasonable size safety and a Wilson grip module…

[RJ]

Still nothing from Wilson. The combination of a reasonable size safety and a Wilson grip module…

Trust me, I look every day. I have this tab on my browser "starting page" setup:

https://wilsoncombat.com/accessories/sig-grip-modules.html

[EMC]

Just picked up the Tacops after a successful experiment testing the sig ergonomics on the p322 platform with 507k optic.

Works great, makes me look like I can shoot. I am fastidiously wiping the mags and slide down with breakfree to try and stave off any of the infamous rust concerns. Hopefully my copy is coated to standard.

Tested Winchester Ranger Bonded 147gr RA9B which grouped phenomenally, then tried 147gr HST which was not so great (which is unfortunate as RA9B is harder to get).

My 124gr reloads loaded with Precision Delta JHPs and 5gr WSF powder were very accurate.

I wonder if these barrels like the 124gr bullets best and the RA9B 147s are an outlier.

[Up1911Fan]

Just picked up the Tacops after a successful experiment testing the sig ergonomics on the p322 platform with 507k optic.

Works great, makes me look like I can shoot. I am fastidiously wiping the mags and slide down with breakfree to try and stave off any of the infamous rust concerns. Hopefully my copy is coated to standard.

Tested Winchester Ranger Bonded 147gr RA9B which grouped phenomenally, then tried 147gr HST which was not so great (which is unfortunate as RA9B is harder to get).

My 124gr reloads loaded with Precision Delta JHPs and 5gr WSF powder were very accurate.

I wonder if these barrels like the 124gr bullets best and the RA9B 147s are an outlier.
Mine all shoot really well with 147gr Gold Dot.

[wmu12071]

Still nothing from Wilson. The combination of a reasonable size safety and a Wilson grip module…

I have no more information then the link but I love the idea if an extended safety. Not sure why they seem to be leaving the back edge square but nothing a file can't fix I guess.

https://www.armorycraft.com/product-page/armory-craft-sig-sauer-p365-extended-safety

[HeavyDuty]

I have no more information then the link but I love the idea if an extended safety. Not sure why they seem to be leaving the back edge square but nothing a file can't fix I guess.

https://www.armorycraft.com/product-page/armory-craft-sig-sauer-p365-extended-safety

I thought the shape was a little odd too, but I’ll wait and see. It’ll be going on my XL FCG, and possibly my P365 too. I’d like to try the XL FCG in a Wilson contoured Macro grip module with my XL top end.

[Up1911Fan]

I thought the back being squared off was a little odd as well, it may turn out to be a non issue, but should be an easy fix if it is. I'm planning on a small handful of these.

[23JAZ]

Extended safety for the 365 is coming.

https://www.armorycraft.com/product-page/armory-craft-sig-sauer-p365-extended-safety (https://www.armorycraft.com/product-page/armory-craft-sig-sauer-p365-extended-safety)

[EMC]

Extended safety for the 365 is coming.

https://www.armorycraft.com/product-page/armory-craft-sig-sauer-p365-extended-safety (https://www.armorycraft.com/product-page/armory-craft-sig-sauer-p365-extended-safety)I've heard the Macro grip modules have issues with safety fitment unless heavily modified. If true that's unfortunate.

[23JAZ]

I've heard the Macro grip modules have issues with safety fitment unless heavily modified. If true that's unfortunate.
They have a Macro with MS on the Sig site now. Don’t think it’s out in the wild yet.

[maximus83]

Here's my grip module with safety cut:

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[Biggy]

Armory Craft Sig Sauer P365 - EXTENDED Safety
Fits ALL P365 variants.

[Steven T]

I've heard the Macro grip modules have issues with safety fitment unless heavily modified. If true that's unfortunate.

I installed the Sig safeties on my P365 Macro. I used a new grip module with the safety cut from Sig. Whole job
took about 10 minutes tops, with no issues. A extended safety might be welcome as the Sig safety is a little
narrow.

[EMC]

I installed the Sig safeties on my P365 Macro. I used a new grip module with the safety cut from Sig. Whole job
took about 10 minutes tops, with no issues. A extended safety might be welcome as the Sig safety is a little
narrow.Good to know they have a safety friendly module. [emoji106]

[RJ]

Got an email from WC about regular P365 modules this morning...add that to the 20% off sale over the holiday...adds up to trying to move product to clear warehouse space for...something else.

Soon(tm) :cool:

[HeavyDuty]

Got an email from WC about regular P365 modules this morning...add that to the 20% off sale over the holiday...adds up to trying to move product to clear warehouse space for...something else.

Soon(tm) :cool:

Wishful thinking?

[RJ]

Wishful thinking?

Yeah, gotta fess up. :(

The existing P365/XL WC modules are back to 20% off as of 15 minutes ago tho.

[RJ]

The existing P365/XL WC modules are back to 20% off as of 15 minutes ago tho.

My bad, just the 320 grip modules.

[RJ]

Trust me, I look every day. I have this tab on my browser "starting page" setup:

https://wilsoncombat.com/accessories/sig-grip-modules.html

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[RJ]

double post, sorry.

[Up1911Fan]

Here's a 10rd P365 length X-Macro frame just back from being cut the a thumb safety. Just waiting on an extended safety to be available. This is essentially a direct competitor to the Gen5 G26 MOS so many want, but thinner.
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[JCS]

MBX +1.
18 rounds and add just a slight bit of length.

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[RJ]

I gave up waiting for the Wilson Combat grip module to be released "soon", so I ordered a X-Macro Grip module and a Sig P365X-Macro Magazine Funnel from Proven Outfitters.

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I really like the magwell; it's nicely machined aluminum, and fits tightly around the lower grip area with a single screw and insert square nut. I'm not sure if Sig has tightened up QC, but whereas previously in dry fire I'd notice a slight movement of the fcu in the grip, this one is noticeably firm with no play I can tell. I put the S backstrap on, as grip circumference with that most closely matched my carry gun (P365X) GC.

I basically ended up with a P365 X-Macro Tacops. Counting up the FCU (used), X-change kit (for the slide, barrel, RSA), magazines (MGW) and now grip module and magwell, I'm up to $621 for a gun which retails for $750. So a slight savings to produce a mixmaster gun. And it was easier for me to spread out the purchases instead of a lump sum. This is going to be targeted for USPSA CO this fall, when I get back to shooting matches.

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[G19Fan]

I gave up waiting for the Wilson Combat grip module to be released "soon", so I ordered a X-Macro Grip module and a Sig P365X-Macro Magazine Funnel from Proven Outfitters.

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I really like the magwell; it's nicely machined aluminum, and fits tightly around the lower grip area with a single screw and insert square nut. I'm not sure if Sig has tightened up QC, but whereas previously in dry fire I'd notice a slight movement of the fcu in the grip, this one is noticeably firm with no play I can tell. I put the S backstrap on, as grip circumference with that most closely matched my carry gun (P365X) GC.

I basically ended up with a P365 X-Macro Tacops. Counting up the FCU (used), X-change kit (for the slide, barrel, RSA), magazines (MGW) and now grip module and magwell, I'm up to $621 for a gun which retails for $750. So a slight savings to produce a mixmaster gun. And it was easier for me to spread out the purchases instead of a lump sum. This is going to be targeted for USPSA CO this fall, when I get back to shooting matches.

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Love this combination

[WobblyPossum]

I was able to handle one briefly a few days ago. Another agent had purchased one to replace their P320 X-Compact as an approved personally owned weapon. I liked it. The craziest part to me is that it’s almost dimensionally identical to a G43X but it holds 17+1. The grip module/frame looked like it was maybe 0.1” wider than the G43X/48 frame. I didn’t get to practice reloads or anything but the magazine well gave the impression that reloading would be pretty easy. I’d like to shoot one so I could compare it to my P365X and XL. I might buy the grip module at some point and just slap it onto my XL.

[RJ]

PSA:

I enquired to Talon as to a granulate grip panel for the Sig OEM Macro grip, since I could not see it in the drop down to order. I had granulate on my G34 and liked it a lot for matches, so I was thinking I’d do the same with the Macro. I got this prompt courteous reply:

“ Richard,
Thank you for your email. Sig stepped up the factory stipling on the module between the 365X/XL and the X-Macro. Because of the aggressive factory stipling on the Macro, we aren't able to create a quality bond with our Granulate material. The factory stipling creates high points that the material will adhere to, but prevents the rest of the adhesive from properly bonding with the frame. We've played around with re-designing the adhesive compound and even the Granulate material, but at the end of the day we weren't able to bring the bond up to our standards for sale. This is something we're still looking at and want to pursue, but at the moment isn't something we are comfortable with passing onto our customers. Our Rubber and PRO material is a little more pliable and has no issues with adhering to the Macro frames, but until we can improve the Granulate material we will only have Rubber and Pro as an option. Sorry we don't have the answer you're looking for, but hope this helps! Please let us know if you have any other questions. Have a good day!

Best Regards,

Dxxxxxxxx

[Chuck Whitlock]

PSA:

I enquired to Talon as to a granulate grip panel for the Sig OEM Macro grip, since I could not see it in the drop down to order. I had granulate on my G34 and liked it a lot for matches, so I was thinking I’d do the same with the Macro. I got this prompt courteous reply:

“ Richard,
Thank you for your email. Sig stepped up the factory stipling on the module between the 365X/XL and the X-Macro. Because of the aggressive factory stipling on the Macro, we aren't able to create a quality bond with our Granulate material. The factory stipling creates high points that the material will adhere to, but prevents the rest of the adhesive from properly bonding with the frame. We've played around with re-designing the adhesive compound and even the Granulate material, but at the end of the day we weren't able to bring the bond up to our standards for sale. This is something we're still looking at and want to pursue, but at the moment isn't something we are comfortable with passing onto our customers. Our Rubber and PRO material is a little more pliable and has no issues with adhering to the Macro frames, but until we can improve the Granulate material we will only have Rubber and Pro as an option. Sorry we don't have the answer you're looking for, but hope this helps! Please let us know if you have any other questions. Have a good day!

Best Regards,

Dxxxxxxxx

I do really like the PRO material.

[RJ]

Haven't thought about WML for a bit, but with the arrival this week of my Macro grip module I've been thinking of getting one. This gun would be for competition/HD use, so I'd need a new R/C holster for it for USPSA, and something to keep it in bedside.

Looking at three options, Holosun P.ID, Baldr S and Streamlight TLR-7a.

The Holosun looks YUGE and I don't know what their track record is like for WMLs. The Baldr has a rechargeable feature which I like from the standpoint of no batteries. I have a small one of theirs as a AAA light that's seen light use, and I would guess their WML would work as well. I have had a Streamlight, analog, old-school light several years ago for my M&P which worked well.

Is there an obvious choice among these three for the Macro, or another supplier to pick from?

[Noah]

Haven't thought about WML for a bit, but with the arrival this week of my Macro grip module I've been thinking of getting one. This gun would be for competition/HD use, so I'd need a new R/C holster for it for USPSA, and something to keep it in bedside.

Looking at three options, Holosun P.ID, Baldr S and Streamlight TLR-7a.

The Holosun looks YUGE and I don't know what their track record is like for WMLs. The Baldr has a rechargeable feature which I like from the standpoint of no batteries. I have a small one of theirs as a AAA light that's seen light use, and I would guess their WML would work as well. I have had a Streamlight, analog, old-school light several years ago for my M&P which worked well.

Is there an obvious choice among these three for the Macro, or another supplier to pick from?

Holster support and track record for the Holosun is minimal.

Olight has some (not top tier) holster support but a very mixed reputation. I wouldn't personally buy one.

Streamlight TLR7A and TLR7sub have the best track record and holster support for a small light. Seems the obvious choice.

There's still really only a few lights which have a track record and level of holster support I would consider acceptable, the TLR7, Streamlight TLR1, and Surefire X300.

[RJ]

Streamlight TLR7A and TLR7sub have the best track record and holster support for a small light. Seems the obvious choice.


Thanks, yeah, that is kinda the conclusion I came to, just wanted to double check.

[Up1911Fan]

TLR-7 Sub is a good fit and JM makes holsters for that combo. I think he just added the Macro with the TLR-7A but I'd like to see how open it it around the trigger guard to accommodate the bigger light.
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[Noah]

TLR-7 Sub is a good fit and JM makes holsters for that combo. I think he just added the Macro with the TLR-7A but I'd like to see how open it it around the trigger guard to accommodate the bigger light.
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I think the max width of the Sub and 7A at the switches is extremely close, so the same holster opening.

[DaBigBR]

The Holosun P.ID is definitely not for this gun. It may fit, but it's functionally about the size of a TLR-1.

[PTSDog]

Here's a 10rd P365 length X-Macro frame just back from being cut the a thumb safety. Just waiting on an extended safety to be available. This is essentially a direct competitor to the Gen5 G26 MOS so many want, but thinner.
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Maybe, but how much that work to have the Macro sized grip cut down to 365 length and added backstrap cost?

Jerry

[Up1911Fan]

Maybe, but how much that work to have the Macro sized grip cut down to 365 length and added backstrap cost?

Jerry

Wasn't concerned with the cost. For the role that gun plays for me it's a better option. And as a long time Glock shooter, I've come to prefer the P365 Seriesguns for carry.

[PTSDog]

Wasn't concerned with the cost. For the role that gun plays for me it's a better option. And as a long time Glock shooter, I've come to prefer the P365 Seriesguns for carry.

Understand but after seeing what some of those grip modules run plus of the firearm cost, it puts it right at the cost of my G26.5 MOS and RDS. Almost twice the price if I had waited for the BL version.

But we all have our wants and desires. And I am surely not the one to tell someone not to spend their money. Enjoy! Looks like a cool pistol.

Jerry

[GJM]

Understand but after seeing what some of those grip modules run plus of the firearm cost, it puts it right at the cost of my G26.5 MOS and RDS. Almost twice the price if I had waited for the BL version.

But we all have our wants and desires. And I am surely not the one to tell someone not to spend their money. Enjoy! Looks like a cool pistol.

Jerry

On the other end of the cost spectrum, YVK won a 365 XL at a match this weekend,

[YVK]

On the other end of the cost spectrum, YVK won a 365 XL at a match this weekend,

Phrasing of this sentence is misleading. YVK won 75% from CO winner, placing towards the bottom of his A class group. Which is actually rich when you finish with six mikes you didn't call. In addition, since Sig 365 line is almost as confusing as Holosun's SCS, I don't exactly know what I got.

[EMC]

Phrasing of this sentence is misleading. YVK won 75% from CO winner, placing towards the bottom of his A class group. Which is actually rich when you finish with six mikes you didn't call. In addition, since Sig 365 line is almost as confusing as Holosun's SCS, I don't exactly know what I got.You got a Macro Tacops gun but without the cooler grip module! Saweeet! [emoji1787]

[60167]

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This is my favorite polymer, striker-fired people popper platform. The dust cover on the macro frame allows me to tuck the PMM Comp, which I think is really slick.

Top- Factory slide with Jagerworks cut.
Middle- Norsso with ported slide and barrel
Bottom- Zev with PMM Barrel and comp

I haven't gotten around to actually shooting the Norsso slide assembly yet. I need to order a RSA.

[davisj]

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Soon.

[Phred]

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Soon.

What am I missing here? Those appear to be XL grip modules, which have been out for a while. They do not look like macro size grips in that photo.

[davisj]

What am I missing here? Those appear to be XL grip modules, which have been out for a while. They do not look like macro size grips in that photo.

Sarcasm. Should have included an emoji. The Macro frames were supposed to be released in July but instead they’re posting XL grips.

[D-der]

I got sick of waiting for WC to turn out a X Macro module so, finally picked up a Sig module, some mag's, put in an XL FCU, XL slide with PMM comp, 407K x2 and voila! Franken X Macro long slide? I did notice for some reason, there's enough difference between the trigger reach on this compared to the WC XL's I shoot all the time, I was getting trigger bite with the straight trigger after a couple of mag's, I swapped the FCU out for a curved trigger and no more bite. I've got to say, the gun handles and shoots really well, now the wait for my JM 2.5 to show up.

[TOTS]

Ok, gents, I’m ready to part with some money. Advice on how best to build/buy my 365, please.

I’m wanting the Macro frame, I think, unless I can find a local WC XL grip for comparison. I have shot all the factory grip modules and the macro shoots best with not much loss of concealability. A chopped down Macro frame and a flush fit 15 magazine is my ideal- I so wish they would have made it a half inch shorter and not tried to stuff 17 in it just to beat Glock. But the main decision is regarding the barrel length. I originally wanted the macros comped slide but am concerned by the reported lack of accuracy and the fact I can get the Tacops for $100 cheaper with the extra mag (don’t care about the magwell or extended controls.)

Question for the group: is there a meaningful difference in sight acquisition between the macro frame w 3.7 slide/barrel and the macro comp version? If there IS, I am interested in the comp. This takes me down the road of if building one is a better option . I’m well aware that the PMM solution with the 3.1 slide is the best (real comp- most efficient in reducing rise) option, but the 3.7 slide sent to Monsoon Tactical for the Helle port is cheaper and only $25 more than getting the factory setup once you add in the money for the third magazine, which I would purchase.

Any suggestions on the most efficient way of getting the best balance? My priority order is shootability - price - concealability - whatever else I’m missing.

How would you guys do it differently with hindsight and the latest aftermarket support?

[TOTS]

https://www.sigsauer.com/consumer-promotion-365-xmacro

Just came along this promotion when researching my purchase. Figured someone else may be looking for a reason to pull the trigger on a purchase. Until 15 Dec, must be submitted by 31 Dec.

[WobblyPossum]

https://www.sigsauer.com/consumer-promotion-365-xmacro

Just came along this promotion when researching my purchase. Figured someone else may be looking for a reason to pull the trigger on a purchase. Until 15 Dec, must be submitted by 31 Dec.

I got really excited because I was planning to pick one up anyway but then I saw the list of qualifying SKUs didn’t include the LE ones: W365XCA-9-BXR3-RX, W365XCA-9-BXR3RXZPSNS, and W365XCA-9-BXR3-RXZE. I wonder if they’d still honor it.

[TOTS]

I got really excited because I was planning to pick one up anyway but then I saw the list of qualifying SKUs didn’t include the LE ones: W365XCA-9-BXR3-RX, W365XCA-9-BXR3RXZPSNS, and W365XCA-9-BXR3-RXZE. I wonder if they’d still honor it.
Man, same exact situation with me. But, I’m picking up a standard sku from the local Sportsman’s Warehouse for about the same price since I won’t have to pay for the transfer and the mil discount will negate the taxes Id have to pay from a LE website. All said and done, I’m paying the same price and getting two more magazines. The only thing I miss out on is the magwell. I’ll live…

Also, the list of skus includes the manual safety models. Which Sportmans is showing in stock for $649. So the price works out the same; still $100 ahead if you plan on adding magazines anyway.

where were you planning on sourcing your purchase?

[WobblyPossum]

Man, same exact situation with me. But, I’m picking up a standard sku from the local Sportsman’s Warehouse for about the same price since I won’t have to pay for the transfer and the mil discount will negate the taxes Id have to pay from a LE website. All said and done, I’m paying the same price and getting two more magazines. The only thing I miss out on is the magwell. I’ll live…

Also, the list of skus includes the manual safety models. Which Sportmans is showing in stock for $649. So the price works out the same; still $100 ahead if you plan on adding magazines anyway.

where were you planning on sourcing your purchase?

Proven Outfitters has the first two SKUs I listed in stock for $600. That’s where I bought my 365XL so I figured I’d throw some more business their way.

[TOTS]

Proven Outfitters has the first two SKUs I listed in stock for $600. That’s where I bought my 365XL so I figured I’d throw some more business their way.
That’s where I was looking as well. I also found Shooting Surplus for $20 cheaper.
https://shootingsurplus.com/sig-sauer-p365-xmacro-le-w365xca-9-bxr3-rx/

By the time I pay shipping, tax, and transfer fee, the $617 local is better with the free magazine promotion. I was really on the fence between the Macro and XL but the promotion pushed me over the line.

I have shot the XL and the Macro comp and agree the Macro is a faster shooter. But wonder how much is the grip size vice the ported slide. Have you ever compared the ported/non-ported Macro models?

[WobblyPossum]

That’s where I was looking as well. I also found Shooting Surplus for $20 cheaper.
https://shootingsurplus.com/sig-sauer-p365-xmacro-le-w365xca-9-bxr3-rx/

By the time I pay shipping, tax, and transfer fee, the $617 local is better with the free magazine promotion. I was really on the fence between the Macro and XL but the promotion pushed me over the line.

I have shot the XL and the Macro comp and agree the Macro is a faster shooter. But wonder how much is the grip size vice the ported slide. Have you ever compared the ported/non-ported Macro models?

No I don’t have any experience with the ported Macro. We are prohibited by policy from using the ported models. My brother owns a Spectre Comp that I’ve shot a little but I never got a chance to compare it to my regular XL directly.

[G19Fan]

That’s where I was looking as well. I also found Shooting Surplus for $20 cheaper.
https://shootingsurplus.com/sig-sauer-p365-xmacro-le-w365xca-9-bxr3-rx/

By the time I pay shipping, tax, and transfer fee, the $617 local is better with the free magazine promotion. I was really on the fence between the Macro and XL but the promotion pushed me over the line.

I have shot the XL and the Macro comp and agree the Macro is a faster shooter. But wonder how much is the grip size vice the ported slide. Have you ever compared the ported/non-ported Macro models?

The ported is a minor help. Not a huge change imo. Prefer standard

[WobblyPossum]

I used Sig’s Contact Us page to ask if they’d honor the promotion for one of the LE SKU guns. I’ll update if they respond.

[WobblyPossum]

Sig CS has confirmed the LE SKU models are not eligible for the promotion.

[TOTS]

Picked up the MS version from the local Sportsmans Warehouse. Applied via the SIG portal around 5pm, received a discount code by 10, got my shipping label this morning. Macro with a MS and five magazines for sub $620…nothing to complain about. I’m pretty happy with the rebate process so far.

[TOTS]

I wish they would’ve went with a 16 round flush mag instead. The 17 sticks out quite a bit from the gun imo.
You ready to help me make one? A 17 mag with 1/4 inch cut and the mounting tabs re-bent would work perfectly with a baseplate from the old SIG mags to make a 15-16 rnd mag that fits flush inside the flare of the macro grip. I’m looking at this right now. JCN
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[HeavyDuty]

Are we giving up on a Wilson grip module?

[TOTS]

Any tips on stripping the mag for malfunction clearing?


I’ve had some 1911 mags whose baseplates insert enough into the magwell that the checkering bites into the plate and locks the mag up. Locking the slide back and forcing the mag out by pushing down on the feedlips has worked well for me in the past and is my go-to technique.

[Brianjkeene]

This was posted by Wilson Combat last night. Seems their macro module may finally release today.

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[Up1911Fan]

This was posted by Wilson Combat last night. Seems their macro module may finally release today.

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Just look's like a P365X to me.

[Brianjkeene]

Just look's like a P365X to me.

Not so much the picture but the description in the post.
“As the sun sets, the stage is set for something xtroadinary “

[Up1911Fan]

Not so much the picture but the description in the post.
“As the sun sets, the stage is set for something xtroadinary “

Yeah I saw that, but the non pic rail, the picture and the X in the description just leads me to believe it's just an ad for their P365X.

[TOTS]

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JMCK Wing Claw 2.5 Macro Data point- if you move the rubber spacers from between the kydex shell sides to between the shell and claw (or just remove them in general) then an XL frame fits like it was designed for the holster. Absolutely no need to purchase two holsters.

[davisj]

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Posted a few hours ago. Apparently Very Soon is not this last July, the last time WC said that with Very Soon being July 2023. 🤷

[MVS]

Something I didn't expect today. While dry firing my new 365 AXG Legion, I was pinching my trigger finger between the trigger and trigger guard. I have quite a few rounds through my XL and never remember this happening. When I measure the gap at the bottom it is 3/32" on the XL and 1/8" on the Macro/AXG. I don't remember reading this here, but maybe I missed it.

[GJM]

Something I didn't expect today. While dry firing my new 365 AXG Legion, I was pinching my trigger finger between the trigger and trigger guard. I have quite a few rounds through my XL and never remember this happening. When I measure the gap at the bottom it is 3/32" on the XL and 1/8" on the Macro/AXG. I don't remember reading this here, but maybe I missed it.

I have not experienced that with my multiple Macros, all OEM polymer grip modules.

[MVS]

I have not experienced that with my multiple Macros, all OEM polymer grip modules.

Thanks. It could be a difference between the AXG and Macro frames. When I shoot our little match Tuesday night I will compare it to a friends Macro as I also want to try his holster to see if this fits before I order a JM. Right now my holster for the Canik MC9 is sufficing for dry practice.

[G19Fan]

Thanks. It could be a difference between the AXG and Macro frames. When I shoot our little match Tuesday night I will compare it to a friends Macro as I also want to try his holster to see if this fits before I order a JM. Right now my holster for the Canik MC9 is sufficing for dry practice.

No issues with polymer macro frame.

The axg fits some holsters for macro.

If you don't want your axg grip please give me a shout!

[D-der]

I was in my go to LGS Friday, he handed me a customer's WC 365 inquiring on my thoughts...
aside from the Wilson slide serrations, an optic ready slide and shitty trigger it's pretty much
the same as my 365 with a WC module and Dawson sights at twice the price at $1400.

[RJ]

I was in my go to LGS Friday, he handed me a customer's WC 365 inquiring on my thoughts...
aside from the Wilson slide serrations, an optic ready slide and shitty trigger it's pretty much
the same as my 365 with a WC module and Dawson sights at twice the price at $1400.

Wow, you are right, I had a look at Wilson's web site for the P365 / P365 WC pistols. I can't imagine those selling well. I guess that's why they are on sale with some 15% off. Those must be a tough sell at that price point, given the how soft the firearms market seems to be at the moment. I would not be surprised if they have a WC Macro version out soon.

[G19Fan]

I was in my go to LGS Friday, he handed me a customer's WC 365 inquiring on my thoughts...
aside from the Wilson slide serrations, an optic ready slide and shitty trigger it's pretty much
the same as my 365 with a WC module and Dawson sights at twice the price at $1400.

Agreed 100% always wonder who purchase these....

[Sig_Fiend]

I was in my go to LGS Friday, he handed me a customer's WC 365 inquiring on my thoughts...
aside from the Wilson slide serrations, an optic ready slide and shitty trigger it's pretty much
the same as my 365 with a WC module and Dawson sights at twice the price at $1400.

They don't make any objective performance claims that I can see, merely allude to vague improvements, and most of what's left appears to be mostly aesthetic changes and "bolt-on" mods that most of us could install ourselves.

Fair enough and to each their own. I do think they've "created" something that should be quite easy to roast pretty hard but, I'll stop there. I just want to know what savage is out there buying modular, polymer-framed guns for aesthetics?! ;)

[GJM]

YVK won a Macro lower/XL upper at a match last summer, and despite my pestering him as to how good the Macro shoots, he still hasn't shot it. Today, he was shooting a drill with his 365, and then repeated it using a 17 round mag, and was 20 percent faster his first try. I teased him that maybe this Macro lower idea wasn't so stupid. He has a 3.1 inch upper with a PMM barrel and comp, and I suggested he drop that right on the Macro lower.

I put my PMM upper on my Macro lower, and shot some drills for YVK at the end of my practice session. This combo is the best shooting Macro combo I have tried. Here is a short video with:

1) two hits to three steel at 10 yards

2) two hits to each paper A zone at 10 yards

3) two body, one head at 7 yards

4) a five shot freestyle group with Gold Dot 124+P at 20 yards


https://youtu.be/0DmMMwHW5v0?feature=shared

[RJ]

*makes mental note to look into PMM in 2024*

[Dismas316]

YVK won a Macro lower/XL upper at a match last summer, and despite my pestering him as to how good the Macro shoots, he still hasn't shot it. Today, he was shooting a drill with his 365, and then repeated it using a 17 round mag, and was 20 percent faster his first try. I teased him that maybe this Macro lower idea wasn't so stupid. He has a 3.1 inch upper with a PMM barrel and comp, and I suggested he drop that right on the Macro lower.

I put my PMM upper on my Macro lower, and shot some drills for YVK at the end of my practice session. This combo is the best shooting Macro combo I have tried. Here is a short video with:

1) two hits to three steel at 10 yards

2) two hits to each paper A zone at 10 yards

3) two body, one head at 7 yards

4) a five shot freestyle group with Gold Dot 124+P at 20 yards


https://youtu.be/0DmMMwHW5v0?feature=shared

What OWB holster are you running?

[GJM]

What OWB holster are you running?

Since I am a fiddler with different pistols, I have a Safariland CUBL set up with a QLS receiver and TREX leg strap. That allows me to easily switch holsters, and positions the holster like my competition rig, making my drawstroke similar. Today, I have a Comp Tac International, but I have a range holster inbound from JMCK.

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[G19Fan]

YVK won a Macro lower/XL upper at a match last summer, and despite my pestering him as to how good the Macro shoots, he still hasn't shot it. Today, he was shooting a drill with his 365, and then repeated it using a 17 round mag, and was 20 percent faster his first try. I teased him that maybe this Macro lower idea wasn't so stupid. He has a 3.1 inch upper with a PMM barrel and comp, and I suggested he drop that right on the Macro lower.

I put my PMM upper on my Macro lower, and shot some drills for YVK at the end of my practice session. This combo is the best shooting Macro combo I have tried. Here is a short video with:

1) two hits to three steel at 10 yards

2) two hits to each paper A zone at 10 yards

3) two body, one head at 7 yards

4) a five shot freestyle group with Gold Dot 124+P at 20 yards


https://youtu.be/0DmMMwHW5v0?feature=shared

Have you tried a chopped macro grip per chance (say a macro chopped to xl length)

[GJM]

Have you tried a chopped macro grip per chance (say a macro chopped to xl length)

I haven't. Is there any advantage besides concealment?

[D-der]

I'm running a Franken X Macro, older XL upper with no BUIS, a 407 and a PPM comp.I'd run the comp on an XL with good results, but it does fit the Macro a little better, I'm back and forth on the WC module I'd just received but still need to work out pro's / con's, I do shoot the Macro a little better than XL' s especially as distance increases and have been carrying it daily for several months.

[MVS]

Took the 365 AXG Legion Macro or whatever it is called out today. I had wanted to try out my new SG GO timer and film the session but with the snow, mud, and cold I just didn't have the gumption to tackle that. It sighted in easy with the EPS carry except for the fact that I had a hard time with the trigger in slow fire. It has more creep in it than Joe Biden. When I sped up I didn't really notice it. I wore gloves on and off depending on what I was doing. Ran the RM DOM and didn't do great, but not shabby either. The 2 shots in the 8 ring were totally on me as I was not nearly deliberate enough at the 15 yard string actually shooting it faster than the 10. I don't care what anyone says, that expansion chamber/velocity reducer on the end tames the gun. It shoots much calmer than my XL. I get that some of that is grip length.

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I don't think I have shot that drill since a Lee Weems class like a year and a half ago. I don't remember what I shot it then but I do remember Heather Kramer Reeves beat me. That was near the end of the class in nice weather so for cold and cold, this wasn't terrible today.

[G19Fan]

I haven't. Is there any advantage besides concealment?

Imo no but they shoot the same for me (chopped macro vs macro) was curious since you are a better shooter, if you had the same results

[GJM]

Imo no but they shoot the same for me (chopped macro vs macro) was curious since you are a better shooter, if you had the same results

I feel like I shoot the Macro quite a bit better than the XL grip module 365. Not sure how much of that is the length of the Macro grip and how much is the shape and texture. Is there a picture of a chopped Macro grip in this thread?

[G19Fan]

I feel like I shoot the Macro quite a bit better than the XL grip module 365. Not sure how much of that is the length of the Macro grip and how much is the shape and texture. Is there a picture of a chopped Macro grip in this thread?

Agreed. I shoot a macro and chopped macro much better than an xl.

My cuts.

[MVS]

So there is a difference in fit between the regular Macro and the AXG in holsters. I tested 4 or 5 of my buddies with my Legion today and some worked without adjustment and some did not. The AXG fits much tighter for whatever reason. This was using OWB and AIWB holsters from Comptac, We the people, and some other brands I can't remember.

[G19Fan]

So there is a difference in fit between the regular Macro and the AXG in holsters. I tested 4 or 5 of my buddies with my Legion today and some worked without adjustment and some did not. The AXG fits much tighter for whatever reason. This was using OWB and AIWB holsters from Comptac, We the people, and some other brands I can't remember.

Axg is a tad thicker

[Biggy]

Went to the range today and went through 115 rounds with the FDEZ-3. This thing is legit. I’ve never felt so much in control of the Macro. It genuinely pains me to say this but I preferred it to the large Boresight Razorback backstrap.


I agree 100%, I've tried all the MACRO grip frames and different size backstraps and this configuration fits **my** hand size the best by far and still points right on target. Other than adding UNK's or Armory Craft's larger manual thumb safety to my pistol when they become available in the next month or two, my pistol is complete.



https://i.imgur.com/mkV5HbDh.jpg

[GJM]

I agree 100%, I've tried all the MACRO grip frames and different size backstraps and this configuration fits **my** hand size the best by far and still points right on target. Other than adding UNK's or Armory Craft's larger manual thumb safety to my pistol when they become available in the next month or two, my pistol is complete.



https://i.imgur.com/mkV5HbDh.jpg

The Macro points like the larger 320 AXG I am shooting now. Does this back strap change how the Macro grip module points?

[Biggy]

The Macro points like the larger 320 AXG I am shooting now. Does this back strap change how the Macro grip module points?

No, not for me, my P365 MACRO XL still points right where I am aiming at. I was also a little concerned about that, but the FDEZ WERX #3 and also their #2 backstraps point fine for me even though they are slightly different in shape. The FDEZ #2 backstrap felt real good but the FDEZ #3 felt the best for **my** hand size because it had more material towards the bottom of the hump and wasn't slopped in quite as much. It's just my preference. Anyone interested in the FDEZ #2 backstrap, message me.

[GJM]

No, not for me, my P365 MACRO XL still points right where I am aiming at. I was also a little concerned about that, but the FDEZ WERX #3 and also their #2 backstraps point fine for me even though they are slightly different in shape. The FDEZ #2 backstrap felt real good but the FDEZ #3 felt the best for **my** hand size because it had more material towards the bottom of the hump and wasn't slopped in quite as much. It's just my preference. Anyone interested in the FDEZ #2 backstrap, message me.

Thank you, I just ordered a -3 and look forward to trying it. Hopefully I won't as I have too many Macros!

[D-der]

I'm curios, if you use a #2 Sig back strap, is it fairly safe to say that would translate to a #2 FDEZ ?

[RJ]

I'm curios, if you use a #2 Sig back strap, is it fairly safe to say that would translate to a #2 FDEZ ?

Ditto here, interested as well (I assume a ‘#2 Sig’ = Medium?)

Edit - Apparently not. This guy (cringy range theatrics aside) has a decent overview of each size:


https://youtu.be/5FZfIk1PjSo?si=9D4jZnIuqyUrqdF_

[G19Fan]

If anyone wants a Fdez3 I may have a spare

[Steven T]

I run the Fdez number 3 on my two Macro framed 365’s. I bought all 3 Fdez back straps and
prefer the 3. I don’t notice much difference in the large Sig and the Fdez 2.

[G19Fan]

I run the Fdez number 3 on my two Macro framed 365’s. I bought all 3 Fdez back straps and
prefer the 3. I don’t notice much difference in the large Sig and the Fdez 2.

The fdez2 is only a tad larger than sig large (not worth the money to upgrade to then fdez 2 imo)

[RJ]

The fdez2 is only a tad larger than sig large (not worth the money to upgrade to then fdez 2 imo)

Thanks; that's useful. I use the Medium Sig backstrap. I decided to keep it as is since I have M/L hands, and it shoots ok for me. I don't think the fdez 1 would make that much difference, not for $40 anyway.

[Steven T]

The fdez2 is only a tad larger than sig large (not worth the money to upgrade to then fdez 2 imo)

That was exactly my observation. You just said it in a concise way. 🤣

[G19Fan]

Thanks; that's useful. I use the Medium Sig backstrap. I decided to keep it as is since I have M/L hands, and it shoots ok for me. I don't think the fdez 1 would make that much difference, not for $40 anyway.

I think you will really like the fdez 3. 1 and 2 are pretty eh. I do like the boresight a tad more.

Medium small hands.

[GJM]

I think you will really like the fdez 3. 1 and 2 are pretty eh. I do like the boresight a tad more.

Medium small hands.

I have a 3 on the way as an experiment, because PF -- what exactly does the 3?

[G19Fan]

I have a 3 on the way as an experiment, because PF -- what exactly does the 3?

Haha of course. I think you will like it. It makes the recoil feel even better than the boresight imo. I just ended up staying with the boresight as it indexes naturally for me

[GJM]

Haha of course. I think you will like it. It makes the recoil feel even better than the boresight imo. I just ended up staying with the boresight as it indexes naturally for me

The index naturally part is what worries me, as I believe the OEM medium module index is perfect for me.

[G19Fan]

The index naturally part is what worries me, as I believe the OEM medium module index is perfect for me.

Fdez3 makes me index a tad lower

[G19Fan]

The index naturally part is what worries me, as I believe the OEM medium module index is perfect for me.

Delete dupe

[Brianjkeene]

I’d be interested in shooting this.


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[MVS]

Well being the dumb@ss I am, I ordered a Tenicor for my 365 AXG because lefty and they had some in stock. Super quick shipping but of course being Sig the AXG frame will not fit in this holster without some modification. I should have known better as when I contacted Tony at JM about it, he said he didn't know about compatibility yet but doubted it as Sig is the single worst company for making rolling changes and screwing things up. (paraphrased)

[JCS]

I’d be interested in shooting this.


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The innovation on the 365 is awesome. I look forward to what people will come up with in the next 5 years.

[Mfbpt]

Check out Ndz’s x macro backstap. They’re made of aluminum so you get a little extra weight, not much but a little. The xxl has the exact same feel as the Boresight razorback without the price tag. I was eyeballing the Fdez until I came across the Ndz. Figured $10 more why not.

[GJM]

The innovation on the 365 is awesome. I look forward to what people will come up with in the next 5 years.

Agreed. The Macro lower/XL upper has become my favorite carry pistol.

When the 365 came out, I was impressed by its capacity, but I never was thrilled shooting it. The XL was better, but still not something I went out of my way to shoot. The Macro, I shoot every chance I get.

[G19Fan]

Agreed. The Macro lower/XL upper has become my favorite carry pistol.

When the 365 came out, I was impressed by its capacity, but I never was thrilled shooting it. The XL was better, but still not something I went out of my way to shoot. The Macro, I shoot every chance I get.

Same I suck at shooting compared to a lot of y'all. But been running a xl chopped macro in local comps from aiwb with the goal of finishing top 25% and so far so good. Great flat shooter.

[RJ]

I’d be interested in shooting this.



"...the 4.1" XXL Barrel..."

Ok they have my interest...I looked that up and apparently the barrel that goes into this build is made in their factory in GA...I wonder if this is the same length as would go into the "XXL" slide seen teased by Sig a while ago:

https://shalotek.com/products/p365xxl-4-1-plain-threaded-black-nitrided-w-nlci.html

[RJ]

I think you will really like the fdez 3. 1 and 2 are pretty eh. I do like the boresight a tad more.

Medium small hands.

Thanks, I am trying to wrap my head around a larger backstrap that has a yuge rear extention making sense for me...but most all ya'll are better shooters than I am. Plus I see these Razorback modules being touted, with similar rear cabooses on them, it really makes me wonder about whether my hands / finger length could get on the trigger surface with one of those.

Am I just fundamentally misunderstanding the operating principle of grips with big rear extensions, and in reality, people (like me) with M/L hands can use these grips effectively...?

[MVS]

Same I suck at shooting compared to a lot of y'all. But been running a xl chopped macro in local comps from aiwb with the goal of finishing top 25% and so far so good. Great flat shooter.
Maybe you have mentioned it elsewhere, but could you explain what you gain from going to a Macro and then chopping it vs an XL?

[Up1911Fan]

Maybe you have mentioned it elsewhere, but could you explain what you gain from going to a Macro and then chopping it vs an XL?

A better grip and a pic rail. I've had Boresight do a pair of them, plus one chopped down to regular P365 size.

[Sig_Fiend]

Thanks, I am trying to wrap my head around a larger backstrap that has a yuge rear extention making sense for me...but most all ya'll are better shooters than I am. Plus I see these Razorback modules being touted, with similar rear cabooses on them, it really makes me wonder about whether my hands / finger length could get on the trigger surface with one of those.

Am I just fundamentally misunderstanding the operating principle of grips with big rear extensions, and in reality, people (like me) with M/L hands can use these grips effectively...?

I think this is an analogy that will work well enough. It's like lifting with a skinny department store barbell versus a proper Olympic-sized barbell. The larger barbell opens up the grip a bit more, allowing you to apply more force over a larger surface area.

Similar concept with razorback-style backstraps. Difference being the grip circumference for the middle finger, thumb, and index finger is usually unchanged so you get a balance of larger grip surface area without substantially affecting trigger reach.

[G19Fan]

Maybe you have mentioned it elsewhere, but could you explain what you gain from going to a Macro and then chopping it vs an XL?

The xl is too thin for me and the the macro with its interchangeable backstraps and side panel.shape is perfect. I don't carry a light so the rail doesn't impact me.

Been chopping some for other people as well and most people have loved it.

If you shoot me a pm can send pics and a video of one running. Personally I have way better recoil control with a chopped module vs oem xl

[G19Fan]

I think this is an analogy that will work well enough. It's like lifting with a skinny department store barbell versus a proper Olympic-sized barbell. The larger barbell opens up the grip a bit more, allowing you to apply more force over a larger surface area.

Similar concept with razorback-style backstraps. Difference being the grip circumference for the middle finger, thumb, and index finger is usually unchanged so you get a balance of larger grip surface area without substantially affecting trigger reach.

Thanks I have never been able to explain this

[WobblyPossum]

Have any of the chopped Macro grip guys compared performance between their chopped Macro grips and a Wilson XL grip?

[Up1911Fan]

Have any of the chopped Macro grip guys compared performance between their chopped Macro grips and a Wilson XL grip?

No. Another positive for me is holster compatibility. Now my P365 sized gun, XL sized gun and X-Macro's all fit the same set of holsters.

[RJ]

Similar concept with razorback-style backstraps. Difference being the grip circumference for the middle finger, thumb, and index finger is usually unchanged so you get a balance of larger grip surface area without substantially affecting trigger reach.

Aahhhh this is what I was missing. Thanks! It makes sense now.

[G19Fan]

Have any of the chopped Macro grip guys compared performance between their chopped Macro grips and a Wilson XL grip?

I have. I am faster and more accurate with a chopped macro and a boresight razorback.or fdez3.

Better splits with a chopped macro. It also indexes naturally for me vs the wilson xl

[WobblyPossum]

I have. I am faster and more accurate with a chopped macro and a boresight razorback.or fdez3.

Better splits with a chopped macro. It also indexes naturally for me vs the wilson xl

Interesting.

[Up1911Fan]

Interesting.

My best analogy for the chopped/razorbacked Macro is, for me, it shoot's like a G19 but carries like a G48.

[G19Fan]

Interesting.

Feel free to shoot me a pm if you want details on the chop process. Otherwise can upload some.pics

[G19Fan]

My best analogy for the chopped/razorbacked Macro is, for me, it shoot's like a G19 but carries like a G48.

Same for me. G19 performance that carries better than a 48 (48 prints more for me)

[GJM]

Same for me. G19 performance that carries better than a 48 (48 prints more for me)

What size mag?

[G19Fan]

What size mag?

12 round mag. My reload is a 17 round mag

[G19Fan]

Since a few people pm'd

This is for a buddy's wife who didn't want a Razorback

https://imgur.com/a/q4wbx2Q

If you chop the front rail I also like the setup with barrel p365/p365x slide

[GJM]

12 round mag. My reload is a 17 round mag

Are you worried about over insertion with the 17 and bending the ejector on a slide lock reload? Or do you have a guard on the 17 to make it XL dimensioned, or you think that is a low prob scenario that you would avoid by seating carefully?

[Noah]

Are you worried about over insertion with the 17 and bending the ejector on a slide lock reload? Or do you have a guard on the 17 to make it XL dimensioned, or you think that is a low prob scenario that you would avoid by seating carefully?

This is a pet peeve of mine more companies should consider. Glock perfection?

[G19Fan]

Are you worried about over insertion with the 17 and bending the ejector on a slide lock reload? Or do you have a guard on the 17 to make it XL dimensioned, or you think that is a low prob scenario that you would avoid by seating carefully?

I used the 17 round mag xl baseplates (sig oem). Once after a few months I learned the choppes macro wirh razorback shot like the full sized macro with razorback I chopped all 6 of mine.

Def low.prob but why chance it.

[G19Fan]

This is a pet peeve of mine more companies should consider. Glock perfection?

One of the most brilliant things glock did for mag sharing

[WobblyPossum]

Are you worried about over insertion with the 17 and bending the ejector on a slide lock reload? Or do you have a guard on the 17 to make it XL dimensioned, or you think that is a low prob scenario that you would avoid by seating carefully?

I was just talking about this with P320s at work this morning. I’m not sure it’s possible with the P365 because of how solidly the ejector looks to be built into the fire control group. I’ve not heard of this happening to anyone with the P365 series although I’ve heard of three incidents with P320s at my agency.

[G19Fan]

I was just talking about this with P320s at work this morning. I’m not sure it’s possible with the P365 because of how solidly the ejector looks to be built into the fire control group. I’ve not heard of this happening to anyone with the P365 series although I’ve heard of three incidents with P320s at my agency.

That is good to know! I have not heard of it happening with a p365 either.

[DLWinner]

I just ordered an XL Grip module and 2 12rd mags for my XMacro. Just to have more options.

[JCS]

I used the 17 round mag xl baseplates (sig oem). Once after a few months I learned the choppes macro wirh razorback shot like the full sized macro with razorback I chopped all 6 of mine.

Def low.prob but why chance it.

Is the backstrap diy or boresight? If DIy I’d be interested in details!

[G19Fan]

Is the backstrap diy or boresight? If DIy I’d be interested in details!

I chop my own! Also.been chopping for other people. It isn't boresight beautiful, but it is fully functional (mags drop clean, insert cleanly etc)

I chop, radius the inside (the mag geometry of a 12 round and 17 are different), then just test fit. I also chop the beavertail

[Up1911Fan]

Since a few people pm'd

This is for a buddy's wife who didn't want a Razorback

https://imgur.com/a/q4wbx2Q

If you chop the front rail I also like the setup with barrel p365/p365x slide

Yep, I have one chopped for 10r mags and the rail cut back for the 3.1" top end. It's my "I need a small gun" , but it's compatible with all my X-Macro holster.

[G19Fan]

P365XL chopped macro frame and razorback at last local comp.

My wife and I were only once shooting p365s and I was only one aiwb. As you can see gun shoots very flat.

https://imgur.com/a/Uv0boNl

[GJM]

P365XL chopped macro frame and razorback at last local comp.

My wife and I were only once shooting p365s and I was only one aiwb. As you can see gun is very flat

https://imgur.com/a/Uv0boNl

I will put this in the Macro shooting thread for you.

[G19Fan]

I will put this in the Macro shooting thread for you.

Thank you didn't see that thread

[Brianjkeene]

Thank you didn't see that thread

Me either. Which thread is this?

[GJM]

Me either. Which thread is this?

https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?59320-365-Macro-shooting-thread

[RJ]

Ok imma about sold on blowing $40 on one of these backstraps...I'm easily amused and manage money poorly.

Referring to this picture on their web site:

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https://fdezwerx.com/fdez-2/

...It appears the "1" is about the same as OEM. Pass. The "3" has a bump out below the center, which I think for my M/L hands wouldn't do me any good. The "2" seems to be what I'd pick out to try. Would ya'll that have these think that is more or less sound logic to base an order on?

[Up1911Fan]

Ok imma about sold on blowing $40 on one of these backstraps...I'm easily amused and manage money poorly.

Referring to this picture on their web site:

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https://fdezwerx.com/fdez-2/

...It appears the "1" is about the same as OEM. Pass. The "3" has a bump out below the center, which I think for my M/L hands wouldn't do me any good. The "2" seems to be what I'd pick out to try. Would ya'll that have these think that is more or less sound logic to base an order on?

Order both and return the one that doesn't fit.

[Steven T]

RJ I have medium large hands as well. I bought all 3 of the Fdez straps. I expected the #2 to be the one I liked, however the #3 was what I ended up using. As has been said I didn’t find a lot of difference between the #2 and large Sig blackstraps.

[G19Fan]

Ok imma about sold on blowing $40 on one of these backstraps...I'm easily amused and manage money poorly.

Referring to this picture on their web site:

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https://fdezwerx.com/fdez-2/

...It appears the "1" is about the same as OEM. Pass. The "3" has a bump out below the center, which I think for my M/L hands wouldn't do me any good. The "2" seems to be what I'd pick out to try. Would ya'll that have these think that is more or less sound logic to base an order on?

Imo 2 isn't worth the money vs a large macro.backstrap

[G19Fan]

Ok imma about sold on blowing $40 on one of these backstraps...I'm easily amused and manage money poorly.

Referring to this picture on their web site:

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https://fdezwerx.com/fdez-2/

...It appears the "1" is about the same as OEM. Pass. The "3" has a bump out below the center, which I think for my M/L hands wouldn't do me any good. The "2" seems to be what I'd pick out to try. Would ya'll that have these think that is more or less sound logic to base an order on?

I have small to.medium hands and vastly prefer the 3.

I think you will want a 3. Also please check your pm if you want my fdez3 for 35 bucks shipped. Will also take it back less shipping if you decide it isn't for you after 1k rounds.

[Biggy]

RJ I have medium large hands as well. I bought all 3 of the Fdez straps. I expected the #2 to be the one I liked, however the #3 was what I ended up using. As has been said I didn’t find a lot of difference between the #2 and large Sig blackstraps.

I ordered the NDZ Performance XL backstrap along with the FDEZ WERX #2 and #3 backstrap. I have been switching back and forth between the #2 and the #3 for about a week trying to decide which one I like the best. They both feel pretty good, but the #3 edges out the #2 for **me** because of the little more extended palm swell towards the bottom of it. It made the grip feel a little more secure in my hand over the #2. Seeing as everyone’s hand size and finger length varies from person to person, what I prefer may not be what you prefer. The pointability between the #2 and #3 did not seem to vary a whole lot to **me**. Also the return policies of both companies is not very customer friendly. If anyone is interested, I have the NDC Performance XL backstrap available for $40. shipped and the Fdez Werx #2 for $30. shipped. Both are like new condition. PM me if interested.

[Biggy]

Here are some Pics of size comparisons between the NDZ Performance XL aluminum backstrap and the FDEZ WERX #2 backstrap. To *me* they both feel noticeably better than the Sig OEM large backstrap, but the FDEZ WERX #3 backstrap feels the best **to me** and my hand and finger size.

https://i.imgur.com/r0OGY8cl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/e6KruRBl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/CFSBCVfl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/iI9kBFul.jpg

[GJM]

FDEZ-3 arrived. Snug to get on and I don't look forward to needing to remove it. My preliminary impressions are positive dry firing with it, and it gives me more real estate to build my grip with my support hand. Look forward to shooting it tomorrow.

[SW CQB 45]

I have a question concerning a

P365 X Macro Romeo-X 9mm

a friend is buying one and he wants me to help him sight it in. It has not shipped yet.

I have zero time behind a P365 and a factory mounted optic. I am assuming the optic will come mounted.

Should I trust Sig to have mounted this optic correctly (torqued and loctite)?

I apologize if this is mentioned somewhere in the 100 pages, but work is being a grizzly bear lately and my extra time is minimal on the net.

thanks in advance

[Up1911Fan]

Should I trust Sig to have mounted this optic correctly (torqued and loctite)?

I wouldn't.

[WobblyPossum]

I also wouldn’t trust anything to be torqued properly. One of our agency issued P365XLs with factory mounted Romeo Zero Elite arrived at my office with loose screws. They do have some kind of factory thread locker already on them though.

[G19Fan]

I have a question concerning a

P365 X Macro Romeo-X 9mme red

a friend is buying one and he wants me to help him sight it in. It has not shipped yet.

I have zero time behind a P365 and a factory mounted optic. I am assuming the optic will come mounted.

Should I trust Sig to have mounted this optic correctly (torqued and loctite)?

I apologize if this is mentioned somewhere in the 100 pages, but work is being a grizzly bear lately and my extra time is minimal on the net.

thanks in advance

I would not trust sig to.mount this right

[G19Fan]

FDEZ-3 arrived. Snug to get on and I don't look forward to needing to remove it. My preliminary impressions are positive dry firing with it, and it gives me more real estate to build my grip with my support hand. Look forward to shooting it tomorrow.

Those will shoot great

[DLWinner]

I have a question concerning a

P365 X Macro Romeo-X 9mm

a friend is buying one and he wants me to help him sight it in. It has not shipped yet.

I have zero time behind a P365 and a factory mounted optic. I am assuming the optic will come mounted.

Should I trust Sig to have mounted this optic correctly (torqued and loctite)?

I apologize if this is mentioned somewhere in the 100 pages, but work is being a grizzly bear lately and my extra time is minimal on the net.

thanks in advance

Remove, degrease, loctite, torque to spec, zero.

[DLWinner]

I think I might order one of the FDEZ #3 backstraps. They look interesting.

[RJ]

I have a question concerning a

P365 X Macro Romeo-X 9mm

a friend is buying one and he wants me to help him sight it in. It has not shipped yet.

I have zero time behind a P365 and a factory mounted optic. I am assuming the optic will come mounted.

Should I trust Sig to have mounted this optic correctly (torqued and loctite)?

I apologize if this is mentioned somewhere in the 100 pages, but work is being a grizzly bear lately and my extra time is minimal on the net.

thanks in advance

I'd certainly would verify it at least. The Sig Romeo Zero elite install instructions specify 9 in-lb of torque, which is a curious value because there are not a lot of torque wrenches that go that low. It's also not a lot, relative to other typical values (Holosun typically specs 15 in lb for instance).

Can't go wrong with removing it and reinstalling yourself; that's probably what I'd do also.

[RAM Engineer]

I'd certainly would verify it at least. The Sig Romeo Zero elite install instructions specify 9 in-lb of torque, which is a curious value because there are not a lot of torque wrenches that go that low. It's also not a lot, relative to other typical values (Holosun typically specs 15 in lb for instance).

Can't go wrong with removing it and reinstalling yourself; that's probably what I'd do also.

My Felo starts at 13 in-lb
Real Avid Smart TORQ starts at 10 in-lb
Wheeler FAT starts at 10 in-lb
Wheeler Digital FAT starts at 15 in-lb
Fix-it-sticks mini starts at 6, but the next increment is 10, so you'd have to guestimate.