Some where in the last 187 pages it was mentioned the +2 extension may cause you to pull down and why doesn't someone make an extension that angles out(I think an HK was the example). I saw the Pearce Grip Glock Gen 4&5 grip extension for G17, 19(PG-19G5) and thought it may work. It doesn't; If I did some JCN'ing I could make it work.