New Data Analysis Shows Policing Isn't Racist

[cclaxton]

Fascinating Story about how data that shows racism in policing may be concealed by failing to look at the deeper data.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poste...omepage%2Fcard

Cody

[Dagga Boy]

Okay, who is posting on Cody's account......

Let me add some things that NOBODY wants to talk about, because....racist. Simple culture. Having worked in many communities made up entirely of folks of a specific background in regards to race or country of origin, certain things are noted as being a norm. Honestly, this is some of that real cultural sensitivity training you get with immersion, rather than some stupid class forced on cops.
Growing up where I did, there was a HUGE emphasis on getting your "learners permit". Huge emphasis from both parents and friends on going to DMV to get your testing and paperwork in order, and then getting the proper drivers training. Huge emphasis on actually getting a license. Getting your picture taken. I had to hump (and I mean true hard physical work) in one of my dad's warehouses for a summer to make enough to pay for my insurance....because, no insurance, no driving. In most of the places I worked, none of this was part of the culture. The idea was almost get a car, and drive till caught without a license, and then the cycle starts. Go to a low income area, and look at the cars. Look at "modifications" to those vehicles and decide if that may be a safety issue that draws attention from LE that is also blamed on race, but is in fact a stereotype of the Cornucopia of violations associated with these vehicles. Certain indicators cops understand as far as efficiency. A trend that even the most clueless cop should understand is that those that don't pay their registration, also don't go to court for tickets or arrests. Many stops for unpaid registration end up in an arrest for failures to appear in court.....which are an easy arrest. Those who have gone to the trouble of putting on fake registration evidence on their vehicles, can be almost guaranteed to have warrants for their arrest. Much of this is common in many communities......those happen to often be communities of color. With that said....communities of low income housing occupied by any race will yield similar results. Tweaked white trash trailer park will be as big a gold mine of criminal activity centered around vehicles as any ghetto or barrio. Cops who work know this. The fastest way to de-police and avoid issues for a cop is to ignore mechanical violations, avoid low income neighborhoods, and target wealthier neighborhoods for moving violations that will get you plenty of activity and revenue generation, yet almost no criminal contact....thus, making it career safe. Meanwhile, the public shares the road with unlicensed, un insured, drivers in unsafe vehicles.......back to getting the policing you deserve.

[cclaxton]

Okay, who is posting on Cody's account......

The more I learn about policing and the more I hang out with LEOs at matches, the better I understand the difficulties and challenges associated with police, and the social and cultural factors that result in the appearance of racial disparity, but not necessarily true. I am starting to think the issue is that people just don't understand policing...they are just ignorant of the profession.
Cody

[Dagga Boy]

As I tell anyone who will listen, after spending my entire adult life as a cop, hanging around with cops, and being very familiar with LE culture, Cops are far less racist than the populace as a whole, and are actually very fair in that they pretty much hate everybody equally. They see the ugly in everybody. In many cases, the only thing that registers with them is that they like respectful people, and detest disrespectful people. I have taken plenty of folks to jail who I went above and beyond to make things as easy as possible because they were at least a respectful criminal. Equally, some of the folks I most despised and would bend over backwards to make life hard was for rude, entitled, wealthy non-minorities who didn't feel any sort of rules applied to them. Just as bad in my book as the ghetto scumbag animals (and most ghetto folk were not too hard to along with and actually decent folks who are victimized by their own regularly). It is hard for me to draw a difference in the black tranny crack whore, and the local white church deacon and Sheriff's posse member cruising around in a corset, panties, thigh high pantyhose and high heels looking for freaks to pick up on.....except the white guy is making a choice and the crack addict is trying to survive. I am equally repulsed by both, but am more empathetic towards the black guy.......because.....racism.

[JDB]

The more I learn about policing and the more I hang out with LEOs at matches, the better I understand the difficulties and challenges associated with police, and the social and cultural factors that result in the appearance of racial disparity, but not necessarily true. I am starting to think the issue is that people just don't understand policing...they are just ignorant of the profession.
Cody

Ah, I love it. Can't help laughing, that just made my day.

To Cody, a sincere thank you, much appreciated.

[Erick Gelhaus]

Reading the thread title, I thought Cody's accoiunt had been hacked. Then I read his take on the article and I realized I was mistaken.

Fascinating Story about how data that shows racism in policing may be concealed by failing to look at the deeper data.
Cody

Here's the actual header & sub-header:
How tracking police data by race can make unfair laws look like the cops’ fault
If problems with law enforcement were as simple as racist policing, they'd be easier to solve. But they aren't.

Stunning, rather than assuming we are racist, the deeper data Selby reviewed shows there is a whole lot more at play.

[GardoneVT]

Fascinating Story about how data that shows racism in policing may be concealed by failing to look at the deeper data.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poste...omepage%2Fcard

Cody

Here's the deeper data.

Police aren't the problem.Politcians who confuse race baiting with career security are the problem.

Genuinely fix the racial and economic problems of American cities, and half of Congress will be unemployed not long afterward. A broken society fills the coffers of politicians hungry for money and power. Police make an excellent scapegoat, because they're bound by law to follow the rules and they answer to the same folks who profit from the chaos.

[Coyotesfan97]

One of my first Sergeants told me a long time ago that if people don't take care of their cars they don't take care of their tickets. If they don't take care of their tickets they don't take care of their warrants.


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[voodoo_man]

The police arent racist?

Well I never....

[Hambo]

The more I learn about policing and the more I hang out with LEOs at matches, the better I understand the difficulties and challenges associated with police, and the social and cultural factors that result in the appearance of racial disparity, but not necessarily true. I am starting to think the issue is that people just don't understand policing...they are just ignorant of the profession.
Cody

Isn't that what we've been saying to you for some time now? Want to have some fun now? Go to one of your meetings and explain that you've verified by whatever means that what cops told you about policing was actually true. Then see if any of the cop haters give a shit.