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    Quote Originally Posted by OlongJohnson View Post
    If one was going to just build a rifle on the Savage/Remage/Howage model, which would you choose?

    Suppose an AR barrel builder well-repected for acccurate, durable and reasonably-priced products was talking about building an 18-in., threaded, melonited, Savage barrel in 6.8? Would that sway you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OlongJohnson View Post
    If one was going to just build a rifle on the Savage/Remage/Howage model, which would you choose?

    Suppose an AR barrel builder well-repected for acccurate, durable and reasonably-priced products was talking about building an 18-in., threaded, melonited, Savage barrel in 6.8? Would that sway you?
    I would first have to ask, why 6.8?

    I've built a Remage and it shoots well, and have played with a Mini Howa in 223 and they are a sweet little action. If I had my choice of the three, I would probably go Remage as there is so much more support for that action in stocks, triggers, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SecondsCount View Post
    I would first have to ask, why 6.8?

    I've built a Remage and it shoots well, and have played with a Mini Howa in 223 and they are a sweet little action. If I had my choice of the three, I would probably go Remage as there is so much more support for that action in stocks, triggers, etc.
    I've had an itch for a 6.8 bolt gun for years.

    I love me some Howa action. If I ever lose my mind and do the 6mm Rem AI project I can't quite get out of my head, it will probably be a Howage.

    I also like that Remington sells unbarreled actions. They aren't too expensive. Makes a decent starting point for a Remage.

    But if ARP does a run of drop-in Savage barrels, they will likely be about half the price, maybe less, of a typical custom barrel. And it will have rifling and chamber that's state-of-the-art from a (if not the) 6.8 specialist. That and a PTG bolt head should be the easy button. Drop them in a Savage Lightweight Hunter .223 with walnut stock that's listed at 5.5 lb from the factory. Stock can be lightened further. Wouldn't be the cheapest build, but probably the simplest way to get it done.
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    Sounds like you have made up your mind!
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    I'm certainly open to better ideas or an explanation of why this would be a dumb one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OlongJohnson View Post
    I'm certainly open to better ideas or an explanation of why this would be a dumb one.
    I won't say you are dumb but be careful.

    If you plan on building something you really want, and keeping it forever, then go for it. Resale value on these kind of builds, especially in a rare caliber, is pretty poor.

    I picked up a 223AI build a few years ago for a song because of this. Only a few people really want that caliber and it sat for sale for a long time before the guy accepted my offer, which was $800 less than what he was asking. If I sell it, I will probably have it rechambered in 223 at a cost of about $150, and will broaden the market.
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    Or just keep the .223 barrel around and screw it back on if I decide to bail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OlongJohnson View Post
    If one was going to just build a rifle on the Savage/Remage/Howage model, which would you choose?
    If I had to choose from these 3, I’d pick the R700 if for no other reason than it will drop right into a Magpul Hunter stock, with DBM bottom metal.
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    I replaced the CA brake with the new model AAC brake/flash hider/suppressor mount, and can now mount my AAC .30 cal can; good balance, shooting report to follow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveB View Post
    If I had to choose from these 3, I’d pick the R700 if for no other reason than it will drop right into a Magpul Hunter stock, with DBM bottom metal.
    I love my Savage, but between the sheer number of stocks/chassis I can't use, and the bolt lift, there are a lot of reasons I wish it was a Remington.

    I think my next gun--really an experiment in learning to assemble a rifle with a prefit barrel--I think I'd be inclined to either start with a trued-up Remington action ($420-$500ish), or just buy a /r/gundeals gun and part it out. If I was spending real money, I would just skip it all and go to a Defiance Tenacity or other push-feed custom action, some of which share the 700's footprint. Custom actions look expensive, but there's a lot of value in the big price tag, presuming you actually want all that stuff.

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