Well, making fun of someone's medical condition or look is actually wrong because they can't change it. Making fun of someone's behavior and choices is opposite. Some things are still morally wrong like sleeping with the married guy, for example. Some women could be enraged while some will actually not.Originally Posted by Clusterfrack
FFS, please no!
Emphasis mine....
14th.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natura...citizen_clauseAll persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
I still think Barry Obama's got some skeletons in his citizenship closet. Like maybe applying to Harvard and Columbia as a Foreign student from Indonesia and reaping admission and financial benefits therefrom. Just my guessing. But I still think both he and KH are sufficiently citizens to hold the office.
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." - Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776
...while claiming to be a progressive feminist. There's a word for people who say one thing and do another. But it matters little, as most voters who claim principle have already established the criteria that will determine their vote and the rest will likely be influenced not by logic or some moral code or long term aspirations, but rather by self interest and how it is effected by the situation as perceived come this November. Unless of course someone figures out how to rig the results say by manipulation of mail in ballots in swing states.
Good points. Making fun of people is often assholish, and I'll own that.
Joe is a creepy pedophilic old fart, and is obviously going senile. I enjoy mocking him, and would do it to his face. Interestingly, even people who will vote for him don't seem to come to his defense.
Elizabeth Warren scares me because she is a politically capable operator who is opposed to many of the things I value. It's laughable that she claims to be native american, so that's an easy target. And I am very glad she isn't the VP pick.
And who doesn't like to mock the Donald? He is a walking, talking joke of a president. But he's our joke, and I'm voting for him.
Kamala Harris... she's a serious threat. I'm not sure what the best approach is, but I'm pretty sure it isn't calling her a whore.
“There is no growth in the comfort zone.”--Jocko Willink
"You can never have too many knives." --Joe Ambercrombie
It very much depends on distance (the more immediate the situation, the more offense, IME).
Bringing this up as an issue invites discussion of how hard it is for women to get into positions of power, whether these allegations are just coming up due to misogyny.....I can't see it helping Trump much.
Using "California politician " as a frame allows her view on open borders and everything else to be brought into play. And it's probably usable as a "dog whistle " that brings up "sleeping her way to the top" to voters who care.
REPETITION CREATES BELIEF
REPETITION BUILDS THE SEPARATE WORLDS WE LIVE AND DIE IN
NO EXCEPTIONS
I agree for the most part, but I feel the use of the word "ho" was the problem in this case. Calling her a slut or a skank still be sexist and crude but would not have had the racial connotations that come with using African American slang. I might think AOC is crazy, but if I said "that mamacita's loco" I'd expect to be called out on it, as it would be deliberately drawing attention to her ethnicity for no valid rhetorical purpose.
The term Ho doesn't come close to explaining that amount of background. Nearly nobody is going to get from "Ho" to "actually slept her way up the ladder", just from reading "Ho", which can mean other things that do not involve getting promoted at work.
Calling Joe senile is self evident.
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." - Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776
I would just run Tulsi Gabbard's indictment of Harris on loop....
But the question is, do you step on to a race card landmine by your own words?
Calling a brown-skinned woman a "ho" is every bit that, as much as using The Word Forbidden to White Folks in public if you're White. It may pass as OK between groups of men. Not in mixed company, for the most part.
In an era where the "why" of the racial make-up of Black Americans is being talked about much more (White male slave owners raping their "property" on a regular schedule and on a massive scale), "ho" is a very charged word. Shit, it didn't work out well for Imus a while back.
REPETITION CREATES BELIEF
REPETITION BUILDS THE SEPARATE WORLDS WE LIVE AND DIE IN
NO EXCEPTIONS
Well, I did preface my remarks by saying I don't think "every" remark...folks are just going to have to be adult enough to know when to say when.
Next someone's going to find fault with saying that Pocahontas is one arrow short in her quiver. (I'm not sure that the tribe would disagree.)
(That's a joke in case it's not clear.)
Personally, I don't think that "mamacita" would be offensive for drawing attention to ethnicity...but for drawing attention to someone's being perceived as "hot". During my 35 years living in NYC, and 17 years in Miami, (and as someone who was near fluent in Spanish), I rarely if ever heard the term being used toward a "plain" looking woman.
Anyway, like Clusterfrack and Potter Stewart before him alluded to, we need to know it when we see, (read, hear), it.
(I have never condoned the term "ho" here, so please do not take me to task nor make me apologize for the choices of others.)
There's nothing civil about this war.
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