New 9 mm ammo testing

[Rich]

Been having issues finding any Ranger or HST in 147gr or 124gr +p. By the time I get the notification from SGAmmo, it's all gone. So, I picked up a few hundred rounds of 124gr +p GD's from ammotogo. They've always been my "back-up" to Rangers or HST's, so I have no problem carrying them... And the fact that they are on Doc's list doesn't hurt��

I will even use the GD124 standard pressure load! and do use 124 HST.

also trying out the slower or under 1200FPS 124 +P loads Tuesday Rem 124+P B and Win 124+P T should be fun since I dislocated my finger 11days ago.


The rem B is some of the best looking ammo I've seen.

Sealed up at both ends. Unlike my Federal 124 and 180gr HST . although I notice win ranger is hit and miss

[Chuck Haggard]

Back in 2006 we couldn't get any Gold Dot without a 10+ month wait, so I bought 124gr +P Ranger-T because it was in stock right then.

I worried about using a non-bonded loading, and said so in a conversation with one of my assistant FIs. I ended that conversation with "When's the last time we had to shoot a bad guy in a car?" trying to make myself feel better about that decision.

The next three shootings were bad guys in cars.

For a non-bonded bullet the Ranger-T works rather well. I like the 124gr +P, but contacts at LAPD report the 147gr works really well also.

I would carry any of the ammo on Doc's list and have zero worries about it.

[Keltyke]

Not enough difference to really matter. Carry what you shoot best.

[Rich]

I know I'm still learning and always will be.

looking at docs testing of 124 +P HST Auto Glass the retain weight is listed 123grs That is interesting? I would of thought it would be a lot less
also the rem 124B+P G compares closely (rem bonded 124 P VS 124 +P HST)

[Rich]

I know I'm still learning and always will be.

looking at docs testing of 124 +P HST Auto Glass the retain weight is listed 123grs That is interesting? I would of thought it would be a lot less
also the rem 124B+P G compares closely (rem bonded 124 P VS 124 +P HST)

EDIT TO ADD
BTW I also notice how HST 124gr+P and Golden Saber Bonded 124gr+P Performance is almost the SAME.

Federal HST 124gr +P P= 14.2 RD=0.46 RW=123grs
Rem GSB 124gr +P P= 14.2 RD=0.46 RW=123.8

So should I include the rem 124gr+P Bonded among the finest loads available ? ( 147gr HST & 124gr +P HST)

Also appears to me to have a copper jacket not brass?

The Remington bonded 124gr+P is also sealed nicely at both ends. Blue primer sealant and Black Lucas .
Unlike the Federal 124gr HST and 180gr HST and different lots of Ranger T 124gr +P and 127gr+P+

[DocGKR]

It is on the list:

9 mm:
Barnes Tac-XP 115 gr +P JHP (copper bullet)
Federal Tactical 124 gr JHP (LE9T1)
Federal HST 124 gr +P JHP (P9HST3)
Remington Golden Saber bonded 124 gr +P JHP (GSB9MMD)
Speer Gold Dot 124 gr +P JHP
Winchester Ranger-T 124 gr +P JHP (RA9124TP)
Winchester 124 gr +P bonded JHP (RA9BA)
Winchester Ranger-T 127 gr +P+ JHP (RA9TA)
Hornady Critical Duty 135 gr +P
Federal Tactical 135 gr +P JHP (LE9T5)
Federal HST 147 gr JHP (P9HST2)
Remington Golden Saber 147 gr JHP (GS9MMC)
Speer Gold Dot 147 gr JHP
Speer Gold Dot G2 147 gr PT
Winchester Ranger-T 147 gr JHP (RA9T)
Winchester 147 gr bonded JHP (RA9B/Q4364)

[Rich]

Thanks
About the GSB9MMD jacket? I swear it looks more like copper than brass.

I looked at the RemLE catalog and the jacket is listed as Brass (copper alloy)

I also notice that a couple of the GSBonded Loads don't use 100% lead .(357sig is on of them)

[Sigfan26]

Thanks
About the GSB9MMD jacket? I swear it looks more like copper than brass.

I looked at the RemLE catalog and the jacket is listed as Brass (copper alloy)

I also notice that a couple of the GSBonded Loads don't use 100% lead .(357sig is on of them)

All my GS Bonded has the same colored jacket. Messages Doc at one point about it and he said that was normal. Guessing it's a byproduct of the process they use to bond the core and jacket.

[Rich]

All my GS Bonded has the same colored jacket. Messages Doc at one point about it and he said that was normal. Guessing it's a byproduct of the process they use to bond the core and jacket.

Thanks
That's good to know.

[j.d.allen]

Speer Gold Dot G2 147 gr PT

What the heck is this?!