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    Smoke Bomb / Ninja Vanish Chance's Avatar
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    Wolf Brand Ammunition and Steel Targets

    Wolf ammunition uses steel casings and steel jackets, but apparently does not use a steel core (at least according to what's posted at Lucky Gunner). Most guides I've seen written about steel targets indicate that using "steel ammunition" would damage the target, but I don't know if they mean "steel core" or "steel anything." For instance, the safety agreement from TacStrike says only use "high quality duty/service ammunition" and then gives upper bounds on bullet velocity, but that's it.

    So, my question is this: assuming you're using steel targets that are at least AR 500, can you should Wolf ammunition at them without damaging the target?

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    I have shot plenty of Wolf ammo, rifle and pistol, and my own steel (TacStrike 1/4 Scale) and other unknown plates that were AR400 without issue. I would not hesitate to do it again and I will do it again. The steel used for the jackets is quite soft and IMHO of little concern.

    I have talked with 2 backstop companies about it as well and while I could not get them to give a blanket statement allowing Wolf use under their warranty they did say that if the steel was indeed not hardened there are no issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chance View Post
    Wolf ammunition uses steel casings and steel jackets, but apparently does not use a steel core (at least according to what's posted at Lucky Gunner). Most guides I've seen written about steel targets indicate that using "steel ammunition" would damage the target, but I don't know if they mean "steel core" or "steel anything." For instance, the safety agreement from TacStrike says only use "high quality duty/service ammunition" and then gives upper bounds on bullet velocity, but that's it.

    So, my question is this: assuming you're using steel targets that are at least AR 500, can you should Wolf ammunition at them without damaging the target?
    I can't speak for the rifle rounds, but shooting steel plates with Wolf/Tula pistol ammo won't hurt them at all. They use a very mild steel in the bi-metal jacket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caleb View Post
    I can't speak for the rifle rounds, but shooting steel plates with Wolf/Tula pistol ammo won't hurt them at all. They use a very mild steel in the bi-metal jacket.
    I've shot steel with .223, 5.45 and 7.62x39 Wolf and Tula ammo, doesn't do any more damage than copper jacketed stuff.

    I have noticed that higher velocity rounds (say M193 from a 20" gun) and the plastic tipped rounds like Hornady TAP do actually cause damage at close range.

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    Agree with 55 gr 5.56mm FMJ tearing up steel - way worse than 62 gr "penetrator" lol.

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    As long as we are on the topic of Wolf, how does it run in a Glock 17, and are there any issues related to the cases in terms of durability of the pistol?

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    I've found that Wolf ammo also uses a pretty weak charge compared to duty ammo, so there's that too.

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    I have damaged AR500 steel using Wolf 223 ammo in the past. Pistol ammo does nothing to the plate. I've had this plate for awhile usually giving it a steady diet of 5.56 including XM855, 300 win mag, 308, etc. I finally damaged it with Wolf 223 at a night shoot doing drills with a buddy I met in firearm classes. I was shocked when I saw the damage as we were both shooting wolf which i consider weak.

    While it's not a crazy amount of damage it's enough for me to stop using the steel inside 300yd.





    I've found the sparks put off by wolf ammo are pretty intense and this is why I'm careful how I use this ammo in the desert due to fire hazard. Picture is freeze frame of only 1 shot on steel from video. This is not the plate in top picture as this was a different night on someone else's steel.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GJM View Post
    As long as we are on the topic of Wolf, how does it run in a Glock 17, and are there any issues related to the cases in terms of durability of the pistol?
    Wolf rifle ammo runs very poorly in the G17.

    The pistol ammo and it's TulAmmo equivalent seem to run in Glocks 22, 23, 17, and 19. It's in decent supply and shows up on our LE ranges. I've shot a bunch of the TulAmmo in G19s and a small quantity of the Wolf without issue. It's way down on the preference list, but if I needed some I could run it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GJM View Post
    As long as we are on the topic of Wolf, how does it run in a Glock 17, and are there any issues related to the cases in terms of durability of the pistol?
    No durability issues, reliability is iffy though. I get a lot of light primer strikes on both 9mm and .40 Glocks (G34 and G23) plus the 9mm doesn't feed reliably in my Kahr PM9. My Beretta 92 loves the stuff and so does my 1911 and the Sig P220. YMMV

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