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    Rim fire trainer for your regular pistol

    Given some of the hit or miss reports of reliability, I wonder if:

    1) A different conversion kit might be better, or,

    2) Simply buying a S&W M&P .22 compact might be the better option, even though I carry Glocks.

    I already have a Buck Mark, which my daughter uses when she comes shooting with me, but which isn’t the best choice for practicing drawing from a holster:



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    Quote Originally Posted by BillSWPA View Post
    Given some of the hit or miss reports of reliability, I wonder if:

    1) A different conversion kit might be better, or,

    2) Simply buying a S&W M&P .22 compact might be the better option, even though I carry Glocks.

    I already have a Buck Mark, which my daughter uses when she comes shooting with me, but which isn’t the best choice for practicing drawing from a holster:



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    Or a PPQ .22? I wonder about them. I messed around with one at a shop, and really liked it. I have a Ruger MKII, so I am not actually hurting for a .22 semiauto, but I wonder about the lightweight options, and something more similar to the gun I actually carry.

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    I just came across this thread and want to add that my CO2 BB 92A1 performs a similar function for me as the .22s being discussed. And I can shoot in the basement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CraigS View Post
    I just came across this thread and want to add that my CO2 BB 92A1 performs a similar function for me as the .22s being discussed. And I can shoot in the basement.
    Which one do you have? I need something else to add to my Christmas wish list!
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    I have this one
    https://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Beret...BB_Pistol/3659
    I bought one of the other models first and it was terrible. It was an 8 shot gun w/ a tiny little plastic cylinder that you loaded pellets into. This one works just like a real 92. The entire slide moves when it fires, it locks back on an empty mag, the safety/decocker, mag release button, all work normally. The CO2 and 18 BBs fit into the magazine so it is quite close in weight to a loaded real magazine. After getting lube into everything, the trigger is actually really good. The BBs are also a lot quicker to load than pellets. I shoot at 20 feet at 3 inch dots stuck on a cardboard box from HD. Both the heavy duty version, a small one inside a medium. When it gets too chewed up I just rotate to another side. My biggest challenge is the draw and that first shot in DA so that is what I practice. BTW, if you have a smart phone, down load an app called "Splits" for a really useful timer. It will even work for dry firing w/ a real 92.

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    Thanks, I'll check the 92 and timer app out!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GJM View Post
    As I probably have mentioned before, Bill Rogers says that a .22 allows you to practice steering the sights while pressing the trigger, without recoil to mask imperfections in trigger.
    GJM, where you using a S&W 317 for this very type of training? How would you compare the S&W K or J frame 22lr to a 22lr conversion of the same design as your competition/carry gun? Any idea how the Rogers school S&W 22lr are set up?

    I have a TSG 19/22 conversion I have rebuild 2 or 3 times and probably put 15-20k rounds through it. It works best with CCI MM or CCI Tac. It has never been +90% reliable but it has allowed a LOT of extra trigger time in the past. I find it especially useful for non-freestyle types of shooting like shooting from retention, shooting on the move, shooting at almost contact distance, SHO/WHO, grounded/guard, from vehicle, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by strow View Post
    GJM, where you using a S&W 317 for this very type of training? How would you compare the S&W K or J frame 22lr to a 22lr conversion of the same design as your competition/carry gun? Any idea how the Rogers school S&W 22lr are set up?

    I have a TSG 19/22 conversion I have rebuild 2 or 3 times and probably put 15-20k rounds through it. It works best with CCI MM or CCI Tac. It has never been +90% reliable but it has allowed a LOT of extra trigger time in the past. I find it especially useful for non-freestyle types of shooting like shooting from retention, shooting on the move, shooting at almost contact distance, SHO/WHO, grounded/guard, from vehicle, etc.
    I was using a 317 as a light gun and relatively heavy trigger came me maximum practice steering the sights while working the trigger.

    I believe the Rogers School went to Ruger LCR revolvers in .22.
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    Didn't seem to help me.

    I bought a Ruger 22 thinking that it would help me improve my shooting, without breaking my bank. What I found is that I shoot the 22 very well, but when I shoot my 9mms I still pull my shots to the right. (I shoot left-handed.) I guess what I learned from the 22 is that I'm having recoil-control issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randyflycaster View Post
    I bought a Ruger 22 thinking that it would help me improve my shooting, without breaking my bank. What I found is that I shoot the 22 very well, but when I shoot my 9mms I still pull my shots to the right. (I shoot left-handed.) I guess what I learned from the 22 is that I'm having recoil-control issues.

    Randy
    Maybe isolating the trigger issues. Try the 50/50 drill, where you load the chamber only of your 9, fire one live shot then immediately fire one dry fire shot. Repeat as necessary.
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