Why aren't there better sub-compact DA/SA options?

[olstyn]

Hey let's not forgot the unforgettable Walther PPK! Bersa has a version as well.

I've never actually shot a PPK, but I keep hearing about how the DA trigger is absurdly heavy and the slide will slice open your hand, plus .380 is the biggest caliber they come in, so overall not a great option IMO. YMMV of course.

[Clusterfrack]

I've been trying to avoid glocks for various reasons.. But when I compare the P07 and G48 - they are the same length, but the G48 is much lighter (7 oz less is huge), is thinner, has a much longer barrel (4.17 vs 3.75). Those are seriously impressive specs. And you can buy a striker control back plate to be safe when reholstering.

Arg... I might need to get sucked into the dark side.

I think a G48 with a SCD is a good option--as are the G43 and G26. I've settled on CZs and Glocks as my main 'platforms'. Both are well-designed, reliable, robust to dirty conditions, mechanically simple, and spare parts are cheap and easy to find. The grip angles are similar enough that my index is precise with both. I used a G43 as my deep concealment gun until I jumped on the snubby bandwagon.

[Bigghoss]

Like the M&P subcompact size?

I think so. Never had an M&P subcompact.

My issue with the PX4 is that it weighs as much as a P07, is almost as large, and yet has a 3.3" Barrel. But I guess if it's somehow significantly more comfortable than a P07 maybe that's still OK.

Are you talking about the [i][b]compact[\i][\b] or the [i][b]sub[\i][\b]compact? I'm talking about the subcompact.

[JAH 3rd]

I like my HK P2000 9mm. 13+1 Partial to DA/SA.

https://www.handgunhero.com/compare/...0-vs-glock-g19

[Zincwarrior]

Also the Commie Makarov.

[Zincwarrior]

I've never actually shot a PPK, but I keep hearing about how the DA trigger is absurdly heavy and the slide will slice open your hand, plus .380 is the biggest caliber they come in, so overall not a great option IMO. YMMV of course.

Those are issues indeed.

[Duke]

Tda sucks and the die hard sub compact guy isn’t going to train enough to master it


And tda sucks.

[matto]

I think so. Never had an M&P subcompact.



Are you talking about the [i][b]compact[\i][\b] or the [i][b]sub[\i][\b]compact? I'm talking about the subcompact.

Ahhh, yes I was thinking the PX4 compact.

[Spartan1980]

I think a G48 with a SCD is a good option--as are the G43 and G26. I've settled on CZs and Glocks as my main 'platforms'. Both are well-designed, reliable, robust to dirty conditions, mechanically simple, and spare parts are cheap and easy to find. The grip angles are similar enough that my index is precise with both. I used a G43 as my deep concealment gun until I jumped on the snubby bandwagon.

I got to fondle a friends G48 with Shield Arms mags. It makes a damned compelling argument for replacing my S&W 9 Shield as a main carry gun.

[Navin Johnson]

Tda sucks and the die hard sub compact guy isn’t going to train enough to master it


And tda sucks.

Is that a Beretta in the avatar?