Attackers disarm CA CCWer

[Trooper224]

Why the fuck are you stopping for anyone at 3am?

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Because most people are relatively honest and they naively assume others are the same. Since most live in their own personal bubble, nothing of any great import usually touches them in any meaningful way, so they exist under a false sense of security. Their good intentions are then preyed upon by the predatory element of our society.

Also, the act of carrying a gun doesn't make you a gun fighting bad ass, any more than the participation in a forum like this does. Most of the time, it just makes you a D-bag with a gun.

[Grey]

Because most people are relatively honest and they naively assume others are the same. Since most live in their own personal bubble, nothing of any great import usually touches them in any meaningful way, so they exist under a false sense of security. Their good intentions are then preyed upon by the predatory element of our society.

Also, the act of carrying a gun doesn't make you a gun fighting bad ass, any more than the participation in a forum like this does. Most of the time, it just makes you a D-bag with a gun.

Growing up in foreign and domestic cities... nothing good happens at 3am...

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[Clark Jackson]

I got $10 that says he's had zero hours of formal training.

I dunno... I've watched dudes with hundreds of hours (maybe into the thousands) of hours worth of "formalized training" be less than useful during a critical incident. In fact, I've watched said dudes do their best to crawl out of trouble as soon as the stakes became real. I'm not discounting the validity of formalized training, but I'm also quick to point out that formalized training doesn't turn you into Steven Seagal before he was fat.

@Grey I don't know where you have or have not been at 3am, but I've got more than one solid story with a more than positive outcome which resulted from me hanging out somewhere around 3am. Let's not all become square pumpkins simply based off the hand positions of a clock.

[Grey]

I dunno... I've watched dudes with hundreds of hours (maybe into the thousands) of hours worth of "formalized training" be less than useful during a critical incident. In fact, I've watched said dudes do their best to crawl out of trouble as soon as the stakes became real. I'm not discounting the validity of formalized training, but I'm also quick to point out that formalized training doesn't turn you into Steven Seagal before he was fat.

@Grey I don't know where you have or have not been at 3am, but I've got more than one solid story with a more than positive outcome which resulted from me hanging out somewhere around 3am. Let's not all become square pumpkins simply based off the hand positions of a clock.

If hanging out at 3am with randoms works for you go ahead. My experience tells me the opposite.

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[DocGKR]

I see a lot of folks in the ED after they were hanging out somewhere at 0300.....

[Clark Jackson]

If hanging out at 3am with randoms works for you go ahead. My experience tells me the opposite.

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Ok. I don't know what that means.

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[wvincent]

Every Friday Safety brief always included, "And nothing good ever happens after midnite"
I can personally attest, they were correct.

[TAZ]

I got $10 that says he's had zero hours of formal training.

I didn't know one could purchase common sense training, cause this isn't really an issue of gun training, but one of common sense. You dont stop for folks at 0300. If you feel a need to call for help, pull over 50 yds away and tell them you called the cops to come help them and drive off. Dollars to donuts, there is more to the story like say prostitutes, or drugs...

[Gray01]

...dont stop for folks at 0300.

I would not stop for Harriet if she and Opie were doing CPR on Ozzie in front of Floyd's Barbershop at high noon.

[okie john]

I got $10 that says he's had zero hours of formal training.

I'm good for another $10.


Okie John