Originally Posted by
David Armstrong
No. See, like everyone else here, I'm commenting on the evidence that is available to me, based on my opinion of that evidence. As I am not actually involved with the case I would have no direct evidence relating to the case. That is generally how things like this work.
No, I did not say that, nor did I even imply that, nor does it make sense.
Yes, and that standard happens to be one of objective reasonableness. Again, if you think that what to me so far is essentially a basic high-school level kids fight constitutes grounds for using deadly force I would have to disagree with that.
Yes, and I suggested how Todd's situation might not be the same as the actual situation, something which none of us know at this time.
Again, lots of claims about someone mounting someone, and heads impacting concrete, but not much evidence to support that yet. Remember, "I was in fear of my life" is only one part of the equation. The other part is if that fear was reasonable. I might fear for my life everytime anyone gets within 10 feet of me. That doesn't give me the right to shoot them.
We disagree, as I see (and apparently many others see) a good amount of evidence that IS inconsistent with it. Officers at the scene apparently disagreed with you.
Please don't make things up and attribute them to me. I can easily see how having your head slammed into the concrete while someone has mounted you and you are helpless can create a fear for life. However, I haven't seen evidence to lead me to believe that is what happened in this case.
I believe that is EXACTLY what you and others are doing, applying your own standards and preconceptions, correct??
Again, please don't make up positions and then try to attribute them to me. Perhaps you are unaware of it, but in play areas around apartments and other areas where there is grass there are often small pieces of gravel, glass fragments, assorted pieces from broken toys, and so on that are in the grass. In fact, as there is a small tree near the fight scene small twigs from the tree could be on the ground.