Girsan 2311s Shipping

[Tokarev]

Aaron Cowan reviews the 5" gun on his Patreon page. He ran the gun through his usual 2K test which includes the four drop tests. He doesn't have any self-ejecting mag issues and the gun was quite accurate in his testing. The only thing he found odd was the fact that he kept getting ejection failures when running the gun with one hand only. He assumes this could be cured by playing with the recoil spring. I'd say that's a good guess.

Overall he likes the gun and thinks it is a good "gateway drug" into 2011s. I would say the MAC is the better value. I don't know if Aaron has seen/shot a MAC yet.

He mentions he had a student bring a 4.25 gun to a class that ran fine. Yep. That was me....

[Archer1440]

The MIM ejection marks on the hammer of Aaron’s example practically jumped out of the screen despite the fleeting glimpse in the video.

[Tokarev]

The MIM ejection marks on the hammer of Aaron’s example practically jumped out of the screen despite the fleeting glimpse in the video.

I looked at one of the 5" guns the other day at a local shop. It had the very distinctive MIM pockmarks on the hammer that mine doesn't have. I also noticed that particular gun felt sort of like it had a bunch of sand in it. It was pretty gritty. My 4.25 is actually pretty smooth.

[Tokarev]

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[bac1023]

Gun is garbage. I’ve handled a couple of them now and they are rough.

Feels like a cheap toy in hand and the trigger is absolutely horrendous. 2011’s really need to start with Staccato and go up from there.

[Tokarev]

Gun is garbage. I’ve handled a couple of them now and they are rough.

Feels like a cheap toy in hand and the trigger is absolutely horrendous. 2011’s really need to start with Staccato and go up from there.

I think there's a market for all these guns. But, as I've said before, the EAA Girsan is overpriced. There is nothing about the Girsan that makes it a price competitor to the Tisas. The Tisas is less money and, by early accounts, the better pistol.

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[Tokarev]

I wanted to bump this thread just to make it a little easier to find in the near future.

I sent the gun and a bag full of parts to Marty Enloe in Phoenix. I also sent him a Prodigy grip that I'd had retextured by Extreme Shooters.

Marty is going to put in a new extractor and tighter bushing, some Wilson Combat controls and the new grip. I also asked him to check chamber and feed ramp dimensions and correct as needed.

Marty told me when I sent the gun in that it should be ready in late April. Hopefully he's still on his timeline. I'll post more info as soon as the gun is back.

Happy Sunday!

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Surprisingly the gun is not a Commander. It is a Government frame with the slide cut off three quarters of an inch. I like the idea of the Government frame and the longer slide travel for reliability but I do wonder what recoil spring may be the best fit. Will a true Commander spring be the correct length?

Thats what Les Baer did at one time and some people thought it was the reason their Commander length guns were so problematic. Its been more than a few days since all this happened, I thought the govt frame with the commander slides had less travel than the true Commander.
I should know about the problems since I bought one against all advice and it was a problem child. I found out later they also installed the govt length spring capture plug which restricted slide travel. I heard that replacing that with a Commander length would fix the problem in some guns.

[Tokarev]

Marty has completed the gun. Here's his email to me about it.


I am writing to let you know I am finished with the Girsan. I just sent you an updated invoice with shipping and one additional charge for coating the slide. I coated a few of the parts, but I charged a minimum to cover some of the cost. The total added comes to an additional $100 for both shipping and the coating.

The extractor was off more than just the size of the back. Also the firing pin, the hammer and sear pins are not spec. Overall the gun runs well but I didn't have the best luck with accuracy. Maybe that will change with the dot sight you plan to run. One particular thing was I wanted to ensure it had a correct chamber. I have a plug gauge that showed it had a correct taper, but the bore of the rifling was undersized from standard 9mm barrels. For this reason, I was not able to ream the chamber. It didn't seem to affect the function, but I wonder if that has a little to do with the accuracy.

If you have any other questions, please let me know. Best regards!

Looking back, I certainly wouldn't go this route again. I wanted the Girsan for the lighter weight aluminum frame. Was it worth it in the end? I probably should have bought a frame from JEM and gone that route.

Anyway, my plan now to essentially beat the brake shoes off this thing. No point in perfuming this pig to make it a safe queen.






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[Jim Watson]

I have a plug gauge that showed it had a correct taper, but the bore of the rifling was undersized from standard 9mm barrels. For this reason, I was not able to ream the chamber.

Sounds like the actual bore diameter is under and would not take the pilot of his reamer. Interesting, so many 9mms are on the high side of bore and groove diameter.