Before the AWB expired, my carry gun was a SIG P228. I loved that little gun, except for the rattley mags and worse capacity to weight ratio than a G19. Once the AWB expired, I slowly migrated over to the G19. The P228 had a 3.9” barrel, so even closer to the XMacro length.
You can math all you want. I have a P2000Sk that measures faster than one of my P30s. Yes, barrel length matters, but there are other factors involved. Just sayin.
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Walther PDP Compact is Glock 19 sized also
I’ve returned to my roots lately and have been shooting my HKs again. The USPc is about the same size as a G19. I wonder if that grip extension on the magazine would help “tuck” the lower portion of your remaining pinky finger into the grip. I notice a definite difference shooting the compact with the magazine extension vs using a plain flat floor plate. I have a much more solid purchase using the magazine with the extension. I’m not sure exactly how much you’re missing, but for myself it seems that it “tucks” or creates purchase from about the knuckle down towards the outside of the hand.
Working diligently to enlarge my group size.
The G19 length/height/width/weight/payload is certainly where all the lines cross.
Add in its other characteristics, its ecosystem, SCD and ease of optic mounting and one can easily see why it is such a standard. You have to go down into the weeds in rather specific use cases and preferences(like brand loyalty, disliking what you're department issues on contrarian principle...or being a 1911 trigger queen) to get a meaningful ROI on something else.
Has the CZ P-10c been mentioned? Interesting because of the SCD that'll soon be available.
I'm larger than average, so I don't notice a significant concealment difference between "full size" and "compact" sized guns.
David S.
If money was no object, and I didn’t need a functioning tractor, then I would try a USPc LEM with thumb safety.
I think the P-07 is good enough as is out of the box, and despite it being DA/SA, I would feel most comfortable going back to it over any other gun, if I had been away from shooting for a long period of time. Just something about the trigger characteristics works for me, the controls are about perfect.
Currently I use a Glock, but I wish I had went M&P as my striker option. Despite the SCD and NY1 trigger, I still do not feel all that comfortable with Glocks vs other platforms. Even the imperfect safety on the M&P would be preferred.