Has anyone heard that the P-07 will be discontinued? I read a comment that a dealer said they would be. I am skeptical of the veracity of youtube comments, but I thought I would ask.
There are enough military/police contracts for the P-07 that I would think it would stay around for a bit.
Read the entire thread in last two days; very informative, lots of good pointers. Thanks.
I have two P07 with G & H prefix. I think each firearm is unique. My G prefix P07 has CIP N marking on the slide and the H one does not. The H has loaded "pin" indicator on the ejector. My CZ-70 bought 25 years ago has the loaded indicator on the opposite side the ejector.
The double action pull stroke (before hammer falls) are different ; the G prefix has notability shorter pull in DA than the H prefix.
Both had approximately 9-10 lbs DA, 4.5-5 lbs SA from the box.
Trigger Return Spring broke (G) after 150 live rounds and about 200 dry fires, CZ-USA sent a new spring. And, I order TRS from CGW together with 18# hammer spring and reduced power FP spring.
I also cut 2 coils from OEM hammer spring which yielded 8# DA and 3# SA with CGW TRS on the (G). On the (H) gun I put in #18 HS only, I got same 8# DA. Yes, I polished and cleaned up the trigger bar, sears, roller and hammer per M-Carbo video. I use a slave pin to install the TRS, and cut a notch of a cheapo well used screw driver to install the decocker spring.
Since, I got a pack of 4 HS from Wolff Springs 16,17, 18 and 19 #. These springs are all longer than CZ OEM. I cut both 16 and 17# to OEM length (1 coil). DA is about 7 to 7.5#
I used CCI small rifle primer in empty brass to test, and they ignited without issue.
Does any know anything on the CIP N marking? Why loaded indicator on some and not others?
Thanks.
I too am usually skeptical of comments on social media. However, it's hard to not be a little wigged out that only two models are listed on the CZ-USA website for the polymer omega series (P-07 and P-09 suppressor ready). That and the 2024 USA catalog only shows the suppressor ready (SR) version of the P-09. I would also point to the 2024 CZ-UB catalog has both sized guns available in SR and non-SR configurations. Perhaps they don't sell well enough to justify importation into the States.
“There is no growth in the comfort zone.”--Jocko Willink
"You can never have too many knives." --Joe Ambercrombie
Without any knowledge of the handgun market beyond my interests, I would think a polymer optics ready TDA model would be somewhat of a differentiator for CZ. Most optics-ready TDA handguns are alloy framed (thinking SIG P-series, Beretta 92 series). I just don't see that combination of features being enough to sway the larger handgun market to spend money on non-striker guns. It could get me out to spend money I wouldn't otherwise.
I certainly believe the margins on striker guns are much higher. The CZ polymer omega guns are simple in comparison to the traditional CZ trigger mechanism, but the P-10 hardware is simpler and easier to assemble. Those factors drive a major portion of how a for-profit company steers their product lines.
Maybe if I give up hope, it will actually happen.
I'd be happy to see the P-07 refreshed, but I don't think I'd choose an OR model over my direct-milled guns. I like a low optic height and rear iron sight forward of the optic, and that's not likely in a factory OR model. Meanwhile, we have plenty of inexpensive P-07s out there...
“There is no growth in the comfort zone.”--Jocko Willink
"You can never have too many knives." --Joe Ambercrombie
“There is no growth in the comfort zone.”--Jocko Willink
"You can never have too many knives." --Joe Ambercrombie