@jlw
Is there a summary of this discussion? Can we discuss it here?
I feel like this discussion should involve people who have reliable and accurate sub-second draws to be a valid conversation.
It's like saying: why running shoe brands don't matter because you have to consider the socks as well.
Well sure, if you wear sandpaper socks then the shoe brands don't matter as much.
But assuming that the non-shoe things are the same and relatively optimal, then the shoe thing differences DO matter.
It's kind of a straw man argument.
If you don't have a reliable and accurate sub-second draw, you might not understand what that actually means for your shooting and proficiency.
This is hit on and well fleshed out in competition gaming.
Drawing from a holster is about your index speed, consistency and accuracy. It's not about drawing from a holster. The skills you build with a sub-second draw to a small target (like a 7 yard head box) means you can basically look at someplace and the gun and bullets go there with precision, confidence and accuracy.
It also winds up a surrogate for ability to transition and present the gun seamlessly and subconsciously competently on a target, arguably the gold standard of proficiency.
So sure, there are things more important than a sub-second draw.
But in the world of handgun competence, it's short hand for someone who, when can hit something reasonably small in that time period has achieved a good standard or proficiency with their index and trigger pull.
The question I have for people is: Why don't you have or work towards a sub-second draw?
This discussion might make some people uncomfortable, but I feel like the importance of getting to this speed and subconscious competence can't be understated. In the Bakersfield PD time standards, they're some of the most stringent on the draw. The old FAM is also an indication and from all indications, the Bakersfield and FAM were very skilled and successful having honed that level of skill in addition to the non-sub-second shooting skills.