The simulation study gives me some concern:
The WSU article did not find that the officers studied were free of subconscious racial bias — far from it. In fact, fully 96 percent were more likely to associate images of weapons with black faces on the Harvard University Implicit Association Test.
Even so, an examination of shooting errors found that the officers were “slightly more than three times less likely to shoot unarmed Black suspects than unarmed White suspects,” the article said.
What’s more, officers took “significantly longer” — 200 milliseconds on average — in deadly force scenarios to shoot armed black suspects than armed white suspects, controlling for variables such as “demeanor, language, dress, distance from participant, movement, location, sound and light levels.”
Primarily, I'd like to know when the Harvard University Implicit Association Test was given, before or after scenario training?
Additionally, I really don't think 200 milliseconds is really significantly longer, it's less than an eye-blink, about the time it takes a person to recognize facial expression.
I have a great deal of simulation training experience, using several different manufacturer's scenarios, I really don't recall many that used the exact same scenario only switching race, so there may be other factors at work. It would be interesting to know the details of the studies design and protocols.
I wasn't particularly surprised that lower levels of force were more often used against minorities. The lethal force decision is generally a split-second decision whereas less-lethal situation are often slower to evolve and more likely to include factors such as uncertainty, anger, perceived resistance, when inappropriate force is used.
The first book I read on the subject was entitled - Split-Second Decisions - Shootings Of and By the Chicago Police (https://www.amazon.com/Split-second-.../dp/B0006XQVB8 ) This was a study began in 1977, published in 1981, part 2 in 1982. We are still treading water in this same location:
From the Police Foundation's, Fyfe's, Sherman's and earlier studies, a pattern seems to emerge which, stated without qualification, supports the following broad assertion:
The most common shooting of a civilian by a police officer in urban America is one in which an on-duty, uniformed, white officer shoots an armed, Black male between the ages of 17 and 30 at night in a public location, in connection with an armed robbery. Typically, the shooting is subsequently deemed justifiable by the police department following an internal investigation. Even if the officer is criminally prosecuted, a jury is unlikely to convict.
This general pattern has prompted considerable interest in the issue of racism in police shootings. Several researchers have noted that, while black civilians constitute a large majority of the police shooting victims, they are also a large majority of those arrested for, or reported to have committed violent crimes of the sort that might be expected to lead to a shooting. The explanation of black over representation among police shooting victims by reference to arrest or reported crime rates is the subject of heated public debate. Some people contend that this correlation disproves allegations of racism by police. Others contend that it proves nothing, arguing that bigotry influences both the decision to arrest and officer shooting practices.
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This is a major thread jack, but I see this sentiment a lot and I disagree.
There are plenty of folks who talk about how back in their day ____ but it feels like they are looking past a lot of what has been going on. We have been at war for damn near 20 years, the military has a constant stream of recruits and people engaged to serve their country. Peace Corps, teach for America, and Americorps are competitive programs to get into. You can even look at a lot of these activist demonstrations as an expression of civic engagement and desire to make a difference in a community or engage with problems that are big now, but will be much bigger in the future.
Where we are failing, is that we are not providing enough opportunities for folks to get engaged in a productive way and that starts at the high school level. A lot of things are not economically viable because unless you have parents that can pay to support you, you can't volunteer, or take that unpaid internship, or do the whatever thing, because you have to try to offset the crippling student loans that are accompanying even an in-state and community college based education.
I don't want to get into a finger pointing discussion, but I think some of the doom and gloom about civic responsibility is a response to a number of folks in key positions who clearly DGAF about pretty much anything but their own comfort - but the pushback and engagement is impressive. I just kinda wish that folks would understand that engagement starts with voting.
Yeah...we should totally think about doing that. Thanks for the tip. I'm surprised it hasn't occurred to any of before.
I know they exist, but I think these people are a diminishing minority. What percentage of our population has military service today vs, say 1950. How many people apply to be police today vs 20 years ago? How many people volunteer in person vs good feels on social media?
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Yeah, I've heard of pacing. Was the guy pulled over for 3 over in a pack paced? That's be pacing level: expert.
I've also heard of tint and that it's quite a bit harder to see into a lot of modern cars vs the box-mobiles of days gone by. I seldom know the race of people I stop before I stop them. The exception would be watching for illegal turns at an intersection when I can see through the windshield during the day, something I haven't done for 8-9 years.
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@RJ
Spotify made sure to fill a couple of my weekly music lists with some feel good virtue signaling music.
I feel like I scrubbed a few years off purgatory...by golly.
There's nothing civil about this war.