In this day and age when you start marginalizing the usefulness or AR-15s, it becomes a political argument about the 2nd Amendment. While I especially appreciate your contributions on this board to medical issues, I gotta disagree with you on this one.
I can find a lot of home defense shootings where multiple rounds were fired, and some where the defender ran out of ammo. In situations like those, an AR would have been useful. I need not say that running out of ammunition when there is still a threat is a bad thing. Do you really want to rely on the criminals making the decision to run away? If you look at the defensive shootings of Tom Given's students you see criminals taking multiple shots with service caliber handguns. Some of his defending students went to slide lock. I don't want to be any less prepared than that. And in a home defense situation where concealment and carrying a gun isn't an issue, I would rather have a more capable long arm if possible. Especially these days when criminals are being released from prisons prematurely and police response times are slowing, which will encourage more boldness on the part of criminals. Not to mention that the AR-15 is the one of the most commonly sold centerfire rifles where legal.
Here are a few home defense shootings with ARs and AKs that I found:
AK-47 home defense use: https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/...nvasion/53866/
Homeowner kills 2 burglars with AK-47 : https://www.wmcactionnews5.com/story...rs-with-ak-47/
Homeowner kills 3 home invaders with AR-15: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...ruders-n739541
Man uses AR-15 to shoot man attacking neighbor:https://www.chicagotribune.com/subur...227-story.html
Man kills 2 home intruders with AK-47: https://www.charlotteobserver.com/ne...212474004.html
Last edited by Ed L; 04-15-2020 at 09:50 PM.
Not taking a side here, just my two cents-
Some would say owning an AR-15 is LARPing, and they get referred to as Fudds. They say things like why do you need a capacity higher than five rounds or you don't need a gun like that for hunting.
I enjoy owning and shooting an AR, and I hope I never have to use it as the for the reason that the 2nd Amendment was written
-Seconds Count. Misses Don't-
All talk of LARPing is gatekeeping and divides us as members of the shooting culture. We shouldn't be tearing down fellow shooters. Terms like larping, tacticool, mall ninja, etc. all serve to divide us and turn on each other. Yes yes it's fun to look down on the larper and those who do are so much more serious and correct. But similar to joshing at all the memes about people trying to panic buy guns during coronavirus lockdowns and running in to waiting periods, it all just seems so petty.
The point I was getting to is that if a civilian ownership of a rifle that can be easily pressed into a military service yet has a 99.999% probability of never being used in its intended role is not LARPing (and I don't think it is), then we should strongly reconsider ever using that term again in description of any firearm ownership.
If we using the term in describing human behavior, then I'd argue that without getting in person's head, understanding their source of knowledge, prior influences, reference points, abilities and opportunities to rectify deficiencies etc, we can't use it either. No matter how grotesque the behavior can be.
While in the past, usually at day 3 of a carbine class, I felt like I was doing just that, over the time I have grown to despise the term and its usage.
Doesn't read posts longer than two paragraphs.
The Inrange Test is a pretty good dividing line.
Gun Jesus holding a Chauchat LMG = not LARPing
Gun Jesus in WWI French uniform holding a Chauchat LMG = LARPing
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I must apologize to all of you in this thread. When ever I hear the term LARP, I can never get my mind past this image.
Since I can't take this thread seriously, I will bow out now.
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