If FBI adopts 9mm across the board, one wonders what the other Fed agencies who buy their .40 off the FBI contract will do? I know a DOI agency who just got their personnel Gen4 .40s.
If FBI adopts 9mm across the board, one wonders what the other Fed agencies who buy their .40 off the FBI contract will do? I know a DOI agency who just got their personnel Gen4 .40s.
On paper, yeah, the HST gets a little bigger and cuts a little sharper and theoretically is probably 0.00001% more deadly against flying alien robot zomg!bies. In reality the Gold Dot is so universally well respected and proven that it's really, really hard to justify anything else. Except my price on the Gold Dot is about 27% higher.
I still have a secret love for 9BPLE, too, but I know if I started using it Doc would disown me. And by "disown" I mean hunt me down and do Evil Dentist things.
The contract continues to exist even if FBI stops using it, and presumably one of them will pick up the slack if FBI chooses not to re-let the contract in the future. I'd be surprised if FBI recalled existing .40's (they didn't do that with the 9mm or 10mm guns until those guns' service lives were essentially at an ed) so the Bureau's need for .40 ammo will probably be around for a long time. ATF and ICE also have .40-cal ammo contracts.
The FBI currently has duty ammo and guns out in 9mm, .40S&W and .45acp, so a switch across the board for field agents to all 9mm isn't a tremendous change really.
speaking of sheet metal the Federal EFMJ expanding ball ammo expands on that test. And I think its the only one that does
BTW I lived in the country most of my life and had a range and have shot junk cars and trucks. At one time I thought the 5.56 could penetrate way more than any handgun could.
But I never forget shooting a cars gas tank with 7.62x39 tracer. and all the gas pouring out.
Last edited by Rich; 10-16-2013 at 10:17 AM.
I have also personally seen some of the .40s and .45s fail to penetrate to 12" in that test, weird stuff happens. Auto glass is kind of a trend test, not every single test shot will come out positive all of the time. There's reasons why they average up those results.
AG is also an acid test. Getting into cars with anything less than bonded .308 or high penetration 12 gauge slugs is iffy.