9 mm: Glock vs M&P

[JHC]

LOL, Must be because of everyone training up at 5th RTB, not to mention Rogers.

The senior military college there where both sons attended (one grad and one dropout to 11B ) had a lot to do with it.

[TORCH2J]

The senior military college there where both sons attended (one grad and one dropout to 11B ) had a lot to do with it.

That's a good school. One of my buds is a graduate and is now a BN CDR after being an enlisted swine (JK).

[MGW]

For what ever reason I like the feel of a Gen 3 19 over the Gen 4. It doesn't matter what blackstrap I put on the Gen 4 either. I'm an odd ball though. Should also be noted I own a Gen 4 now and not a Gen 3.

[swarty1]

has there been any fix yet for the m&p 9mm accuracy yet?

[DocGKR]

It has been my experience that the average accuracy of gen 3 G19 and M&P9fs are about the same (90-95) at 25 yds on an NRA B8 slow fire right out of the box. However, it is easier to get Glock to shoot better (98-100); some M&P9's resist efforts to enhance their accuracy...

I have quite a few 3rd gen G19's that will shoot 100-8x (I am striving to get 100-10x) usually with a match barrel (got a 100-6x with an OEM barrel in one G19); I've never done better than 97-5x with an M&P9 full size (usually anything over 95 with an M&P9 has been with a match barrel), although I have run 99-5x with two M&P9c's using OEM barrels.

[DocGKR]

OK, I had a rare day off today, so I went down to the range to get some practice prior to qual's next month. I had two pistols with drop-in, non-fitted stainless steel barrels with me. For kicks and to add info for this thread, I shot an M&P9 full-size with a Compass Lake barrel and a 3rd Gen G19 with KKM barrel back-to-back at 25 yds freestyle slow fire using the same Federal 147 gr FMJ (AE9FP) ammo. Both guns shot essentially the same, as illustrated below:





Note that the low left shot in the 9 ring at 7 o'clock with the G19 was the first shot--I knew I pulled it low left right as the shot broke, so it is possible that the G19 could have shot a 99 if I had not blown that first trigger pull...

[tomr]

Think I might give you the 4th X....

OK, I had a rare day off today, so I went down to the range to get some practice prior to qual's next month. I had two pistols with drop-in, non-fitted stainless steel barrels with me. For kicks and to add info for this thread, I shot an M&P9 full-size with a Compass Lake barrel and a 3rd Gen G19 with KKM barrel back-to-back at 25 yds freestyle slow fire using the same Federal 147 gr FMJ (AE9FP) ammo. Both guns shot essentially the same, as illustrated below:





Note that the low left shot in the 9 ring at 7 o'clock with the G19 was the first shot--I knew I pulled it low left right as the shot broke, so it is possible that the G19 could have shot a 99 if I had not blown that first trigger pull...

[DocGKR]

It was close, but I did not want to be greedy....

Generally I shoot ever so slightly better (typically 2-3 points) with a match barrel Glock over an M&P9, but not enough to make a huge difference.

I prefer the ergonomics and manual safety of the full size M&P9 over a G17/G19--especially for duty use. I like the size and versatility of the G19 for daily CCW. The M&P9c is a bit small in the grip for me, particularly during reloads and it requires a very solid initial grip to ensure good control in rapid fire.

[Jeep]

Very nice shooting--especially with FMJ--but I'd say it appears you shoot the Glock just a slight bit better than the M&P. Certainly not enough rounds to say for sure--but I think there is a noticeable, though slight, difference.

[DocGKR]

I just completed my M&P Armorer re-certification today.

The continued improvements made by S&W to enhance the function, durability, and serviceability of the M&P are quite impressive.

S&W West Coast LE Rep David Bowler does a good job teaching the system and is quite willing to address all facets of the M&P, including honestly discussing issues that have caused problems and how they have been handled.