There are reports that North Carolina Highway Patrol is having mechanical issues with their M&P .357 Sig pistols that S&W can not resolve.
They are looking at other pistols in .357 Sig and word is they would like to go back to the Sig 229.
Last edited by pangloss; 08-19-2013 at 09:56 PM. Reason: typo
That's the buzz on a local forum. I spoke with my LE rep a couple months ago and he said that they were offering to replace every NCSHP M&P with a new, updated one...for free.
The media report indicates an extration problem (or some type of mechanical problem) and includes a video of the PIO talking about a tap,rack, ready. However, the very infrequent issue that they've had since they've had the pistol is a dead trigger, which is remedied by a tap, rack, ready.
I don't see them going back to the Sig simply because they got rid of that very pistol because some folk were having problems manipulating the trigger (small hands I guess). At any rate, it'll be interesting to see if S&W is able to get it done or if they drop the ball and lose to Glock, or some other manufacturer. Of interesting note, I was told that when they first thought of dropping the Sig for the M&P that Glock was in the mix. However, the Glock was said to have some issues after extended testing...though I can not remember what it was.
After talking to a LE/Sig armorer about there P229 and he is also in touch with 3 other departments.
The only problems they had was with the mag disconnect. Other than that no P229 jammomatics
Its strange one LE reports good luck with there brand pistol then another LE agency changes to a different brand pistol.
Sometimes I think its about other things besides major problems.
Seems to me S&W could do a number on glock with there M&P pistols and AR15 combo
NCSHP and S&W have worked together to resolve the dead trigger issue. I see them staying with the free M&P replacements if they stick with the 357Sig caliber pistol.
I received a few emails this morning in regards to this issue. It appears that the replacements were failures as well.
One of the emails reads, in part: "A random firing of 5 of the 30 guns on the S&W range resulted in failure of all 5. This was on the S&W range using ammunition supplied by S&W. Our problems were not isolated to a few of the 300 weapons we purchased. It also appears that the frames are out off spec and do not fit into the holsters properly, meaning that the weapons will not be issued. Reportedly, these were the 'replacement' weapons from S&W.
It's interesting to see the disparity of information available from S&W and the actual end-users.
Wow, that is pretty darned bad.