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  1. #521
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  2. #522
    Hammertime
    Join Date
    Apr 2016
    Location
    Desert Southwest
    Pistol: HK VP9

    Caliber: 9mm

    Ammunition:
    S&B 115 grain FMJ
    S&B 124 grain FMJ
    American Eagle 115 grain FMJ
    Fiocchi 115 grain FMJ
    Speer Lawman 115 grain FMJ
    Speer Lawman 124 grain FMJ
    Armscor 115 grain FMJ
    Wolf Mil Spec 115 grain FMJ
    Wolf Polyformance 115 grain FMJ
    Silver Bear 115 grain FMJ
    Brown Bear 115 grain FMJ
    Barnaul White Box 115 grain FMJ
    PMC Bronze 115 grain FMJ
    Magtech 115 grain FMJ
    Fiocchi 124 grain FMJ
    American Eagle 147 grain FMJ
    Speer Lawman 147 grain FMJ
    Blazer Brass 147 grain FMJ
    Magtech 124 grain FMJ
    Blazer Brass 124 grain FMJ
    constant auto forwards.

    Dates of testing: 4/2019

    Total rounds fired: 2145

    Stoppages: 1 : 147 grain flat nose round stuck on feed ramp during auto forward.

    Malfunctions: 0

    Breakages: 0

    The VP9 had a great run with a huge variety of ammunition. The only stoppage was a strange one, around 1800 rounds in, I did an anemic reload and the slide auto forwarded, catching the flat 147 grain FMJ round on the dirty feed ramp. Solved with a tap rack easily. Were the gun not dirty, the ammo 147, or my reload more or less aggressive, I doubt it would have happened.

    About my only beef with the gun is that is constantly autoforwards on reloads, (as do the P30 HKs). Is it a feature or bug? I definitely got used to it and was slow on the slide release when it didnít happen.

    Otherwise it is an incredible shooting gun that I highly recommend for Glock phobic people. I shot it consistently near my highest level of performance, and what more can you want? There is absolutely no blaming the gun for your failures with this one.

    The striker drop issue: well, I donít think it is an issue. Yes, I can make the striker drop at will in this gun, but it requires grabbing the muzzle and hammering the grip down on a hard surface. I also dropped the bejeebers out of the thing from 6 feet high on to stall mats and I could never get the striker to fall even once in a drop. It mentally annoys me that it can happen, but I just donít think it would happen in any real world conditions.

  3. #523
    Inconsiderate Pendejo Greg's Avatar
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    Utah
    Quote Originally Posted by Crusader View Post
    This has always been my belief, after 400-500 rounds 1911s will need lube.
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    I've had some very tightly fitted carbon steel 1911s that required lube (slide action became sluggish) before 150 rounds. I'd imagine a tightly fitted stainless 1911 would need lube before that.

    If you're a shooter, the super tight ones are a PITA. If you're a gun fondler, you'll like them.
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  4. #524
    Site Supporter Clobbersaurus's Avatar
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    Finished the 2000 round challenge with my Gen 2 G17 yesterday.

    Pistol: Glock G17 Gen 2
    Caliber: 9x19mm
    Ammunition: 124g American Eagle
    Dates of testing: 17 Feb, 2019 - 15 June, 2018
    Total rounds fired: 2091
    Stoppages: 0
    Malfunctions: Numerous failures of slide to lock back on an empty mag. I gave up counting.
    Breakages: 0

    The almost 25 year old Gen 2 has ben a very good performing gun for me. I broke a few personal records with it, itís been reliable, and it shoots quite well. Itís proved to be a capable training and backup gun for my Gen 5 and though the Gen 5 is a better gun in every way, I wouldnít feel at a disadvantage if I had to use the Gen 2 in a match.

    I really like the slide finish on the Gen 2, it is just so easy to manipulate for administrative tasks. The Gen 5 locks up way tighter and itís quite a bit harder to press check and rack the slide. I like the slab side panels of the Gen 2 and could do without the dimples on later generations. Skate tape works nicely on Gen 2 guns and you can get it high up on the side panel, where it belongs (looking at YOU Glock). The Gen 2 did not lock back reliably on an empty mag, but I have this issue frequently with my Gen 5 too. I just grip the gun a bit too high.

    Final thoughts are that Gen 2ís are great guns. You can usually find them cheap, and if I was on a budget, I would pick up an older Gen 2, a spare parts kit, and be happier with it than just about any new budget gun.

    Obligatory dirty pics:



    Last edited by Clobbersaurus; 06-16-2019 at 09:03 AM.
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  5. #525
    Hammertime
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    Apr 2016
    Location
    Desert Southwest
    Pistol: HK P30SK V3 (DA/SA)

    Caliber: 9mm

    Ammunition:
    S&B 115 grain FMJ
    S&B 124 grain FMJ
    Fiocchi 115 grain FMJ
    Winchester NATO 124 grain FMJ
    Magtech 115 grain FMJ
    Magtech 124 grain FMJ
    Fiocchi 124 grain FMJ
    Blazer Brass 124 grain FMJ
    American Eagle 115 grain FMJ
    American Eagle 124 grain FMJ
    American Eagle 147 grain FMJ
    Blazer Brass 115 grain FMJ
    Blazer Brass 147 grain FMJ
    Speer Lawman 115 grain FMJ
    Speer Lawman 124 grain FMJ
    Speer Lawman 147 grain FMJ
    Wolf poly 115 grain FMJ
    Silver Bear 115 grain FMJ
    Wolf Mil Spec Laquer FMJ

    Dates of testing: 5-6/2019

    Total rounds fired: 2032

    Stoppages:
    FTExtract: 2x Win 124 NATO, 3x S&B 115



    FT Lock Back on Empty: 10

    Malfunctions: none

    Breakages: none

    Impressions: this is a nifty little gun that shoots like a much bigger gun and grow better with use. In the hand it feels like a G26X with a G19 length grip using the pinky extender and a G26 length slide. This makes it a great shooter for its size. Slow fire accuracy was admirable. In rapid fire up close the slide cycles fast with minimal disruption of the sight picture coming back.

    However it has some warts: five failures to extract. That is a lot for an HK in my experience. They became less frequent as the test went on: 2 in the first 100, 2 more around 400, then a single one at 1300. It was decent ammo so I blame the gun for these.

    Most people arenít going to run thousands of rounds through their wee HK to ďshoot them in.Ē But, this is how HKs like to roll. This thing to its credit blew through 400 rounds of crappy steel ammo without a single problem. The steel has choked the Glocks lately usually with light primer strikes.

    Lighting primers is no problem with the stupid heavy hammer spring and 10.5 lb DA pull. There is little to nothing to be done about it with spring changes, so best just to learn it. The heavy pull didnít hurt accuracy much because it is so smooth with zero stacking before release. Still maybe LEM is better in this gun to avoid tendinitis. SA runs 3.5 lbs.

    Like all the P30 series, itís awesome ergonomically except, the enormous slide release levers that are a constant cause of FTLBE due to shooter thumb placement. I recommend going with a shorter slide release available from HK.

    The rail for a light is nice, but I found it constantly broke my support hand thumb nail along the side due to how I grip.

    Verdict: itís a keeper, but best to test thoroughly. I wonít give my my much smaller feeling Glock 26 for this gun, but if I were a TDA disciple, I would be all over this gun for carry.

  6. #526
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    Jun 2019
    Location
    Alaska
    Pistol: Glock 19 Gen 4..

    Pistol background.. ran 1100 rounds until BTF started. Replaced ejector (to a 30274) and Apex extractor. Cleaned the pistol and started over.. Placed the pistol into back up status and continued to carry an identically setup up G19 as an EDC. I shot this backup pistol in local matches and trained with it starting in June of last year. Today I eclipsed the 2000 round mark with it at a local match which I also won (no big deal.. it's a Fudd fest).

    2095 rounds fired, all Winchester white box 115grn RN.

    No stoppages, malfunctions, or anything. Runs perfect and it is now getting cleaned tonight and become my EDC pistol.

  7. #527
    Site Supporter BaiHu's Avatar
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    Dan Wesson Vigil 9mm
    Wilson ETM Magazines
    ~2,250 rounds mostly S&B
    Some lubrication along the way, but no cleaning until today.
    Pictures start from dirty to clean.
    No failures to anything once I received my ETM Magazines and that's when this test started.
    Just waiting for my holster from @JRCHolsters.

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