2,000 Round Challenge

[1986s4]

I agree the 1911 is more lubrication sensitive than some other types. I had a 1911 make it through the test with no failures, but I felt like I was really pushing it and expected a stoppage any time. Unless there is an issue specific to the gun, I don't necessarily view it as a big problem -- just something users need to be aware of.

Agreed and my experience too. Before I put mine [Colt .38 Super] through it's first 2000 round test I figured out it liked to be well lubed. After watching a Larry Vickers you tube video where he actually submerged a DD AR 15 in motor oil then fired it successfully I decided I really couldn't over lube it within reason. So generous grease on the rails and barrel hood and Mobil 1 in other places. In addition, full power springs and no bunny fart loads.
But, if one takes a long time to do the test, as in months, the lube may dry out a little.

[Bucky]

But, if one takes a long time to do the test, as in months, the lube may dry out a little.

A good lube shouldn’t dry put over time. It shouldn’t “evaporate”.

[1986s4]

A good lube shouldn’t dry put over time. It shouldn’t “evaporate”.

Pretty sure I didn't say "evaporate". Even good lube will dry out a little, or maybe it just mixes with carbon, dust, unburnt powder, heat, etc. It gets thick when exposed to the elements and doesn't move as freely. I can only relate what I experienced and the quality lube I use was definitely not as loose and slippery as it was when I started. In fact, Frog lube became a sticky paste over time.

[Bucky]

Pretty sure I didn't say "evaporate". Even good lube will dry out a little, or maybe it just mixes with carbon, dust, unburnt powder, heat, etc. It gets thick when exposed to the elements and doesn't move as freely. I can only relate what I experienced and the quality lube I use was definitely not as loose and slippery as it was when I started. In fact, Frog lube became a sticky paste over time.

I use Firepower FP10. I've not noticed any change over time with the gun sitting. YMMV

[Doc_Glock]

Pistol: HK P2000 V3

Caliber: 9mm

Ammunition: S&B 124 grain FMJ
S&B 124 grain NATO
Magtech 124 grain FMJ
Lawman 124 grain FMJ
S&B 115 grain FMJ
PMC 115 grain FMJ
Fiocchi 115 grain FMJ
Magtech 115 grain FMJ
Speer Lawman 115 grain FMJ
Federal American Eagle 115 grain FMJ
Armscor 115 grain FMJ
Silver Bear 115 grain FMJ
Brown Bear 115 grain FMJ
Wolf Mil Spec 115 grain FMJ
Barnaul White Box 115 grain FMJ
Fiocchi 124 grain FMJ
Winchester 124 grain FMJ NATO
Men 124 grain FMJ
American Eagle 147 grain FMJ
Speer Lawman 147 grain FMJ

Dates of testing: 11-12/2018

Total rounds fired: 2116

Stoppages: 9. 8 light strikes, 1 failure to return to battery.

Malfunctions: 0

Breakages: 0

I replaced this pistol’s hammer spring with an 11# spring to get the trigger pull to 8/4# from a stock 9/4.5#

It ran great until I ran some ammo with harder primers. I put the stock spring back in and ran 150 rounds of steel at the end of the test to see if it made a difference.

8 total hard primers/light strikes:
11# hammer spring:
6X Barnaul White Box,
1x MEN 124 grain.



12# stock hammer spring:
1X Wolf Mil Spec



7 of the light hits were DA pulls, 1 SA. All fired on second strike.

With steel ammunition, here is the failure rate for the springs:
6/200 with 11# spring.
1/150 with 12# spring.

Best to stick wit the stock spring and accept the heavier DA.

The FTRB incident happened with Winchester NATO 124 ammo and I a prepared to blame the ammo because: Winchester. That round chambered the second time and fired.

Not as reliable as I expected or hoped for from this particular HK. Started strong and problems came up at 1200 round mark.

Otherwise a very accurate and pleasant to shoot gun. I may check the firing pin channel to see if it is gunned up.

[Balisong]

That's quite the HK kick you're on Enel. Why is that out of curiosity? I am too, trying to settle on what will be my EDC.

In either case I appreciate all your data points.

[Doc_Glock]

That's quite the HK kick you're on Enel. Why is that out of curiosity? I am too, trying to settle on what will be my EDC.

In either case I appreciate all your data points.

I discuss it in my training journal. In short I like HK’s. Especially DA/SA HKs of the “P” family.

But I carry Glocks and probably always will.

[Doc_Glock]

Pistol: Glock 19X

Caliber: 9mm

Ammunition: PPU NATO 124 grain FMJ
Magtech 124 grain FMJ
S&B 115 grain FMJ
American Eagle 124 grain FMJ
American Eagle 115 grain FMJ
Armscor 115 grain FMJ
Speer Lawman 115 grain FMJ
Fiocchi 115 grain FMJ
PMC Bronze 115 grain FMJ
Magtech 115 grain FMJ
Wolf Mil Spec 115 FMJ
Silver Bear 115 grain FMJ
Barnaul White Box 115 grain FMJ
Brown Bear 115 grain FMJ
American Eagle 147 grain FMJ
Speer Lawman 147 grain FMJ
Fiocchi 124 grain FMJ
Winchester NATO 124 grain FMJ
S&B 124 grain FMJ

Dates of testing: 11-12/2018

Total rounds fired: 2221

Stoppages: 1

Malfunctions: 0

Breakages: 0

Fabulous gun. I set several personal records on marksmanship oriented tasks.

The only stoppage was a hard primer on Wolf Mil Spec that fired second strike. The other 99 rounds fired fine as did the other 300 rounds of other steel cases ammo.

[LockedBreech]

Pistol: Glock 19X

Caliber: 9mm

Ammunition: PPU NATO 124 grain FMJ
Magtech 124 grain FMJ
S&B 115 grain FMJ
American Eagle 124 grain FMJ
American Eagle 115 grain FMJ
Armscor 115 grain FMJ
Speer Lawman 115 grain FMJ
Fiocchi 115 grain FMJ
PMC Bronze 115 grain FMJ
Magtech 115 grain FMJ
Wolf Mil Spec 115 FMJ
Silver Bear 115 grain FMJ
Barnaul White Box 115 grain FMJ
Brown Bear 115 grain FMJ
American Eagle 147 grain FMJ
Speer Lawman 147 grain FMJ
Fiocchi 124 grain FMJ
Winchester NATO 124 grain FMJ
S&B 124 grain FMJ

Dates of testing: 11-12/2018

Total rounds fired: 2221

Stoppages: 1

Malfunctions: 0

Breakages: 0

Fabulous gun. I set several personal records on marksmanship oriented tasks.

The only stoppage was a hard primer on Wolf Mil Spec that fired second strike. The other 99 rounds fired fine as did the other 300 rounds of other steel cases ammo.

That is a truly impressive test with that kind of variety. Probably safe to say the 19X is squared away.


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[SilentSc0rch]

Just finished up with my 19X FrankenGlock. Details below.

Model: Glock 19X
Frame Mods: grip cut to 19 length and stippled including index points and bottom of trigger guard
Slide Mods: ATEi RMR cut, slide serrations, and refinish
Sights: Trijicon RM06 Type 2, Ameriglo black suppressor sights
Light: Streamlight TLR-7
Trigger: Overwatch Precision TAC

The final round count was 2,003. The ammo was mostly Federal 115 brass with a little bit of Winchester White Box mixed in.

Stoppages: 0
Malfunctions: 0
Breakages: 0

Notes: the trigger was feeling a little dirty towards the end, most likely due to fouling (visible in photo). Starting at about 800 rounds, softly press checking wouldn't send the gun back into battery, but then the action smoothed out again at around 1,000.
















Maintenance notes: after detail stripping the gun and fully cleaning and lubing it, the wear patterns were interesting. Since the slide was refinished after the milling work, the wear on the barrel didn't seem quite as extreme (still very noticeable) as the wear on my factory finished Gen 5 barrel/slide combo. Also, I feel the Glock earned itself a custom slide plate.