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  1. #281
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    Quote Originally Posted by BaiHu View Post
    Wait, this is still a thing? I thought we weren't supposed to clean ANY gun before 2000 rounds in memory of ToddG from March of last year? Crap! Gun cleaning: I'm doing it wrong.

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    Pistol: Glock 43
    Caliber: 9mm
    Ammunition: 950 Magtech 115gr FMJ, 350 Blazer Brass 115gr FMJ, 200 Rem. 115gr FMJ, 150 assorted JHP from Federal, Speer, Hornady, & Winchester, the balance was assorted FMJ.
    Dates of testing: 2/2/17-2/28/17
    Total rounds fired: 2,000
    Stoppages: 1 user-induced premature lockback of the slide at round #1,936, and one user-induced failure to lock open at round # shit I can't find it in my notes.
    Malfunctions: 0
    Breakages: 0
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  3. #283
    Quote Originally Posted by Tamara View Post
    Pistol: Wilson Combat Tactical Carry Professional
    Caliber: 9mm
    Ammunition: 100 Federal 124gr HST, 950 Winchester 124gr NATO Q4318, 950 Speer Lawman 147gr TMJ
    Dates of testing: 3/15/17-4/18/17
    Total rounds fired: 2,000
    Stoppages: 1 FTE*
    Malfunctions: 0
    Breakages: 0

    The stoppage was a near-squib round of Winchester Q4318. It went *pop* and the slide didn't even fully cycle, leaving the spent case in the chamber. I shined my flashlight at the muzzle to make sure I could see light on the feed ramp before resuming shooting. I don't count this stoppage against the gun.
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  4. #284
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    So on 12/122016 I reported on my Colt .38 Super that went 2000 rounds successfully.

    "2000 Round Challenge

    Pistol: Colt Government Model, bought new fall of 2012
    Caliber: .38 Super Auto
    Ammunition used: Fiocchi, Armscor, Geco, Sig Sauer, Remington, Handloads.
    Dates of testing: 8/19/16 to 12/12/16
    Total Rounds Fired: 2005
    Stoppages: 6, failure to go into battery
    Malfunctions: Zero
    Breakages: Zero"


    So I did clean it, just couldn't help myself, but that was it. I checked for unusual wear and tear but found nothing to remark. The Wilson shok-buff is still in good shape so it remains as is the Wilson flatwire #15 spring. Just went approximately 1000 rounds of my own handloads, a mix of 124 Extreme RN and Hornady HAP 115's. The 124's are loaded to reasonable PF with VV N320, the HAP's are loaded near max with VVN340. I am noticing zero case bulge [stock Colt unsupported barrel] but I am seeing primer flow with the S&B SPP I am using. Zero malfunctions with one failure to go into battery with the previously identified Checkmate mags. I knew better, but had to try, they are relegated to dry fire and gun handling drills now.
    Planning on going to small rifle primers for all my future .38 super loads, I haven't tried them yet but I am confident the full power Colt mainspring will set them off. It's really dirty again but shows no sign of slowing down.
    As a versatile heavy duty handgun with reasonable capacity I think this Colt fits the role.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1986s4 View Post
    So on 12/122016 I reported on my Colt .38 Super that went 2000 rounds successfully.

    "2000 Round Challenge

    Pistol: Colt Government Model, bought new fall of 2012
    Caliber: .38 Super Auto
    Ammunition used: Fiocchi, Armscor, Geco, Sig Sauer, Remington, Handloads.
    Dates of testing: 8/19/16 to 12/12/16
    Total Rounds Fired: 2005
    Stoppages: 6, failure to go into battery
    Malfunctions: Zero
    Breakages: Zero"


    So I did clean it, just couldn't help myself, but that was it. I checked for unusual wear and tear but found nothing to remark. The Wilson shok-buff is still in good shape so it remains as is the Wilson flatwire #15 spring. Just went approximately 1000 rounds of my own handloads, a mix of 124 Extreme RN and Hornady HAP 115's. The 124's are loaded to reasonable PF with VV N320, the HAP's are loaded near max with VVN340. I am noticing zero case bulge [stock Colt unsupported barrel] but I am seeing primer flow with the S&B SPP I am using. Zero malfunctions with one failure to go into battery with the previously identified Checkmate mags. I knew better, but had to try, they are relegated to dry fire and gun handling drills now.
    Planning on going to small rifle primers for all my future .38 super loads, I haven't tried them yet but I am confident the full power Colt mainspring will set them off. It's really dirty again but shows no sign of slowing down.
    As a versatile heavy duty handgun with reasonable capacity I think this Colt fits the role.
    Nice update. Thanks!


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  6. #286
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    Pistol: Glock 17 Gen 3
    Caliber: 9mm
    Ammunition: Primarily PPU 115 grain
    Dates of testing: 9/2016-5/2017
    Total rounds fired: 2,067
    Stoppages: 2
    Malfunctions: 0
    Breakages: 0

    Comments:
    This is a Gen 3 Frankenglock with G17 slide assembly that I combined with a Gen 3 G31 lower with chopped grip to allow 15 round G 19 mags to fit.

    I had no breakages, but broke the spirit of the 2k challenge by replacing parts to reduce BTF. Ejector was swapped from the .357/.40 ejector to the standard 336 unit, to the 30274 unit. Adding an on LCI bearing dropped BTF from 10% to 1-2%. Adding an Apex extractor dropped it to zero.

    I also installed a minus connector, Dawson Charger sights, and SCD during the course of the test.

    The two malfunctions were a FTE on round 599 absolutely due to an ancient and poorly spring magazine, and an unknown cause FTE/inline stovepipe around round 2000. This occurred with the Apex extractor and a Magpul GL9 magazine, and Ranger
    T +P ammo.


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    Pistol: Glock 17 Gen4, UUD prefix
    Caliber 9x19
    Ammunition: Mix of TulAmmo, Remington, SIG, Hornady, Winchester, Independence Aluminum, old Wolf Military Classic, American Eagle
    Dates of Testing: 20170413 - 20170520
    Total Fired: 2003
    Stoppages: 2 - Magpul GL9 and steel case - mags run fine with brass, not counted against pistol as the issue is easily repeatable

    Notes: Pistol bought used in October 2014. Previous to this test I had put 1812 rounds through the gun with minimal maintenance. This is my EDC, steel plate comp, and training gun.

  8. #288
    Pistol: Beretta PX4 Compact Carry
    Caliber: 9mm
    Dates of Testing: 4/4/2017 - 5/20/2017
    Ammunition: 2,112 total. Breakdown:
    Wolf 115 - 450
    Freedom Munitions 124 RN New - 450
    Federal 115 - 12
    Federal Aluminum 115 - 300
    Atlanta Arms 115 JHP Match - 20
    Winchester White Box 115 - 270
    Speer 115 - 50
    Speer 124 - 295
    Speer 124+P - 15
    Speer 147 - 250

    Notes: Very impressed with the shootability of this gun. It's a performer. It's everything I love about the Brigadier Tactical shrunk down into a G19 size DA/SA gun. I can shoot this tit for tat compared to my Brig Tac. Really enjoyed putting rounds through this and I plan to shoot either this or my full size PX4 in the June Langdon Tactical Class. Lubed with Lucas "Extreme Duty" gun oil on everything but the barrel cam (that got Lucas ED grease). Cleaned right up with a paper towel and brake cleaner in about 5 minutes. The NP3 on some of the internals sure sped up cleanup. It now resides in my JM AIWB and has assumed the role of primary carry gun.

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    Ugh I really need to get my PX4CC.


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  10. #290
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    Pistol: HK P2000 LEM V2 converted to V1
    Caliber: 9mm
    Ammunition: Many types



    Dates of testing: 3/2017-5/2017
    Total rounds fired: 2,010
    Stoppages: 0
    Malfunctions: 0
    Breakages: 0
    Comments:
    This HK P2000 ran perfectly. I would be comfortable carrying it and recommending it to anyone interested in a G19 sized gun. My only changes prior to starting test were to convert it from V2 to V1 with a trigger return spring, and add Dawson Carry sights. Initially I was shooting 3" high with the sights, but it settled in to shooting POA at top of front sight. I am unclear if this was due to different ammo, break in, or me getting familiar with the decidedly unusual LEM trigger. I ran it with the XL back strap for my medium sized hands since the trigger breaks quite far back toward the grip.

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