I.C.E. Combat Focus Shooting Question

[Wendell]

...What I really want to get into is a more intense training class where I can really push myself. In the level 1 defensive pistol course I took last, the first 3/4 of the day was review for me, and only at the very end, when we combined shooting while moving, reloads, verbal commands, cover, etc, did I feel like I was pushing myself. Standing still and shooting at cardboard while focusing on the front site...I'm good to go...

It sounds to me as though you're ready for force-on-force.

[TR675]

Sounds like you're ready for Southnarc's TNMPSR* class.

*Ten Naked Man Prison Shower Rape

[Josh Runkle]

Thanks for the excellent replies everyone. I do recall reading a review of CFS where they mentioned he never covered fundamentals because he said "you just figure it out". I found that a bit strange. But I think I have the fundamentals, so that might be OK for me.

What I have decided is not to take the course, but to branch out from the instructor(s) I have taken classes from in the past. I asked this same question locally, and got similar answers; that it is excellent training but expensive for what it is. And that I could get more for my money with multiple courses from local guys. I got some good recommendations for groups that might be better, and are different, then those I've worked with before.

I have taken training in the past, so I am not clueless. I seem to always be the best shooter out of the group for what that's worth. What I really want to get into is a more intense training class where I can really push myself. In the level 1 defensive pistol course I took last, the first 3/4 of the day was review for me, and only at the very end, when we combined shooting while moving, reloads, verbal commands, cover, etc, did I feel like I was pushing myself. Standing still and shooting at cardboard while focusing on the front site...I'm good to go.

When I looked into other schools, I was told I had to start over with their level 1 course, that they didn't accept anyone else's as a prerequisite. That kind of turned me off, since I really wanted to push myself with something more advanced. Asking around though, I've been told that I will learn a lot even in the level 1 course, because it is very different than what I've taken. This would seem to lend credibility to the argument to take classes from a lot of different people.

Gonna pass on the Pincus course this time, and try to get into the level 1 course from these other guys. Thanks again for the responses.

What state are you in?

[ScotchMan]

I used to do a CCW shoot that we have weekly, it looks like competition but its set up more to be training. Two different scenarios each week with shoot/no-shoots, use of cover mandatory, tactical reloads, and other "real world" complications (like have to drag a dummy through the course to simulate a wounded bystander).

I haven't been in a while, I've had another commitment on that night. Don't do any other competition.

I live in NY state.

As for the Ten Naked Man Prison Shower Rape class, here we just call that "being a gun owner in NY state".

[ToddG]

I used to do a CCW shoot that we have weekly, it looks like competition but its set up more to be training. Two different scenarios each week with shoot/no-shoots, use of cover mandatory, tactical reloads, and other "real world" complications (like have to drag a dummy through the course to simulate a wounded bystander).

Apologies in advance for the thread jack, but I'd argue the number of times a CCW holder has had to (a) perform a "tactical" reload or (b) drag a wounded bystander to safety during an ongoing exchange of gunfire may in fact be zero.

[Sparks2112]

Apologies in advance for the thread jack, but I'd argue the number of times a CCW holder has had to (a) perform a "tactical" reload or (b) drag a wounded bystander to safety during an ongoing exchange of gunfire may in fact be zero.

But practicing getting your gun out from the surrender position and dumping 3-5 rounds from #2 into a target 3-6 feet away isn't cool.