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    +P... is there really a plus?

    Hey all, trying to figure out what ammo I'll carry in my Glock 26. I've got Winchester PDX1 147gr in it right now, but wanted to go to a lighter round for increased velocity, especially out of that short barrel.

    Looking at Remington Golden Sabers - here's a comparison of velocities and energies for their 124gr and 124gr +P. The +P has about 10% more energy and about 5% more velocity at 0, 50, and 100 (feet, I think, but the page doesn't say).

    Any thoughts? Is +P a lot harder to shoot accurately than standard? Is the increased power worth any reduction in shootability or accuracy?
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    I don't find much difference in recoil with Speer Gold Dot +P. The extra pressure does insure that the weapon cycles and probably gives you more consistent expansion.

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    I can't address the G26, but unless I'm looking for it I don't notice the difference between +p and standard ammo in my G17 or G19.
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    We do all our testing with a 4" 9 mm, there is no significant change in terminal performance when dropping down to a 3.5" barrel...

    Pick the ammo that is most reliable, accurate, and easiest to purchase for your specific situation from the ones listed here: http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=19887

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocGKR View Post
    We do all our testing with a 4" 9 mm, there is no significant change in terminal performance when dropping down to a 3.5" barrel...

    Pick the ammo that is most reliable, accurate, and easiest to purchase for your specific situation from the ones listed here: http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=19887
    Thanks, Doc.

    Did you test the 124gr Golden Saber? Did it expand or penetrate less reliably than the 147gr?
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    We issue the 124gr +P Gold Dot at my job, we have found this to be a very reliable round. The extra impulse to the slide helps insure that the gun will function even when dirty, lacking lube, shot from a position other than flat footed on a square range by an officer who might be injured or firing one handed, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Armstrong View Post
    I can't address the G26, but unless I'm looking for it I don't notice the difference between +p and standard ammo in my G17 or G19.
    Same here. I gravitate to 124 grain +P because I have come to believe that this provides an additional element of functioning reliability in the Glock platform.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tpd223 View Post
    We issue the 124gr +P Gold Dot at my job, we have found this to be a very reliable round. The extra impulse to the slide helps insure that the gun will function even when dirty, lacking lube, shot from a position other than flat footed on a square range by an officer who might be injured or firing one handed, etc.
    That's the load I carry in my CCW Rig - I don't notice any recoil difference between it and 115 grain practice rounds.

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