I don’t recall too many stories recently about anyone at ADX Florence. It’s pretty much the Black Hole of Colorado.Originally Posted by HCountyGuy
Other than that, how’d that “execute him fast and let’s move on” work out for the Romans about 1,990 years ago?
If we have to march off into the next world, let us walk there on the bodies of our enemies.
Wow. I did not see that one coming.
There's nothing civil about this war.
Pretty good; a great number of them were converted and it gave their petering empire a rebirth that lasted 1100 years.
You know, big picture and all.
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Well, if the Romans had tossed him into their version of a supermax, Europeans would still be worshiping Zeus/Jupiter, Odin and whatever the hell the Celts worshipped.
Same with Sacco and Vanzetti. The whole martyrdom gig doesn’t fit with doing life in prison.
More to the point, it seemed to me that if any case was ripe for a change of venue, it was this one.
If we have to march off into the next world, let us walk there on the bodies of our enemies.
My point being they are not the same thing.
The appellate decision was perfectly legal as @vcdgrips laid out so well, but it’s not justice.
100% with Haslet on this. I don't see a lifetime in a bathroom sized cell as punishment befitting his premeditated actions.
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First off, the failings of the justice system are widespread and well-known. All too often, it comes down to a matter of money. You get the justice that you can afford.
Second, it's my uneducated opinion that the ruling was a given. The trial judge may be a respected jurist, but to an outside observer, it's hard to see how an appeal based on failure to grant a change of venue motion could have had any other outcome.
Finally, nobody's contesting guilt in this case. The defendant is going to die in a Federal prison. The question at bar is the timing.
If we have to march off into the next world, let us walk there on the bodies of our enemies.
I disagree. That transforms a justice system or a legal system into a revenge system.
If we have to march off into the next world, let us walk there on the bodies of our enemies.
Disagree. Strongly.
There's a time and place for mercy. There's a time and place for rehabilitation. There's a time and place for (swiftly executed) capital punishment. There is justice in each according to the circumstances...imho.
There's nothing civil about this war.
Exactly.
What about when the family of a murder victim forgive the suspect AND don’t want him/her to be incarcerated? Should the defendant be released? Or should a dispassionate assessment of his or her risk to society come into play, and potentially outweigh the wishes of the victim’s surviving loved ones?
The concept works both ways. Society shouldn’t place important decisions like how to respond to serious crimes in the hands of people who are personally and emotionally affected by the crimes in question, and who may have no grasp of what evidence-based practices could be applied, or no willingness to apply them. The victims are rarely if ever in the best position to decide on a sanction which best serves the interests of the community.
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