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    John Farnam 2024 SHOT Range Day Feedback

    https://defense-training.com/2024-shot-show-range-day/

    22 Jan 24

    2024 SHOT Show, Las Vegas, NV

    Vicki and I are here in Las Vegas, NV for the 2024 SHOT Show!

    This is our opportunity to see new products, new ideas, old friends, new friends.

    Today was “Range Day” at a massive outdoor Range in Henderson, NV. It was cold, rainy, and thoroughly miserable!

    My main interest, as always, is weapons designed and intended for “serious purposes.” Lots of guns were on display, and I had the opportunity to handle and shoot a number of them that interested me:

    Walther’s PDP continues as Walther’s flagship pistol. It has all the features you would expect: polymer frame, variable grip geometry, striker fired, easy field-stripping for user-level maintenance, high-tech finish. Well engineered and very ergonomic.

    The one you want is the “F-Series.” They are slick and slim, designed for concealed carry.

    By contrast, the “regular” PDP is a little clunky!

    Shadow Systems continues as a premier manufacturer of serious pistols! My copy has never hiccuped.

    The one I most recommend is the MR920 “Foundation” Very much the size and function of a G19. Ideal for carrying. Competitively priced with any good, serious pistol.

    The MR920 “Elite” (same size) is also wonderful. It has a few more ergonomic features, but it is more expensive

    Shadow Systems also has a sub-compact version, the CR920. It runs just fine, but it is not fun to shoot with the +p 9mm ammunition we routinely carry.

    The foregoing is an issue shared with the Kel-Tec P15, the Ruger Max-9, and the Kimber R7-Mako. All four are 11-shooters (9mm) and designed for concealed carry, and all fit that role well.

    And, in a real lethal encounter, you’re probably not going to shoot many rounds anyway, but the problem is practice.

    When the act of shooting your pistol is so unpleasant that you hesitate to run many rounds through it during practice sessions, you’ll never get very good with it!

    Maybe not so big an issue with those with heavy, meaty hands, but it is a genuine issue for small, delicate hands!

    Extended magazines (incorporating a finger-shelf) may be helpful, but compromise concealability.

    I should also mention Kel-Tec’s SUB2000 folding 9mm autoloading rifle. Excellent for covert travel, and it uses Glock magazines.

    Savage is making a 5" 1911 pistol in 9mm. Very smooth and very pleasant to shoot. A nice “training gun,” but also suitable for concealed carry. At $1,300.00/copy, it’s a bit pricy!

    Henry’s entry into the “serious rifle” business is the “Lever-Action Supreme.” Short and compact, chambered for 5.56x45, and using STANAG magazines, this lever gun features a rotating bolt that looks very much like and M4 bolt! For convert travel, particularly in places like CA, NJ, et al, this little rifle may have a place!

    We all know how helpful dry-practice is in developing competent trigger technique. The “Dry-Fire Mag” makes it possible to dry-practice without having to manually reciprocate the slide between trigger presses.

    Highly recommended!

    I ran into my friend and esteemed colleague, Jeff Gonzalez this morning at the Range. Jeff is working with a new ammunition company, called Sim-X. I shot it for the first time today. Jeff has been down the road more than a few times, and when Jeff talks, I listen!

    The Sim-X 9mm round features a brass jacket and polymer core. It looks like a typical hollow-point pistol round, but the bullet itself weighs only 45grs. Muzzle velocity from a G19 is in excess of 2200 f/s!

    This round is designed specifically for personal defense. Muzzle blast is considerable, but recoil (G19) is mild. Penetration is limited, the bullet loses velocity quickly (not suitable for long-range shooting), and I’m not sure about barriers like car glass, sheet-rock.

    However, for personal defense at close range, this round looks promising.

    I have some for testing!

    The Show officially begins tomorrow morning at the Venetian Expo Center and Caesar’s Forum.

    I’ll be there all day, reporting back on what interests me.

    /John



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    Quote Originally Posted by Tokarev View Post
    The Sim-X 9mm round features a brass jacket and polymer core. It looks like a typical hollow-point pistol round, but the bullet itself weighs only 45grs. Muzzle velocity from a G19 is in excess of 2200 f/s!
    Low bullet weight for the caliber/high velocity pistol rounds have never lived up to the hype, but I'm sure it'll be different this time.

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    He lost me at, "Shadow Systems continues as a premier manufacturer of serious pistols!"

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    Lightweight for caliber, high velocity? Have we seen this before?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blended-metal_bullets

    (I bought several boxes in .32 ACP when trying to maximize the potential of a Kel-Tec P-32.)

    I will stick with conventional JHP for most applications, LHP as an option in .38 spl., and hard cast flat nose where more penetration is needed.
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    2024 SHOT Show, Frist Day!
    BY JOHN FARNAM | 6:34 AM

    23 Jan 24

    2024 SHOT Show, First Day:

    This year’s SHOT Show surely seems well attended to me!

    All display areas are filled. I’m trying to get through the whole thing.

    Of interest:

    Lone Wolf is making a complete serious pistol, the DUSK19. Very much like a G19, and the same price!

    An “Elite Version” features an integral “compensator” that vents gas upward. Very much not recommended, as it will be a hindrance when the gun is fired while being held close to the body.

    S&W’s M&P 12 is a compact 12ga pump shotgun, featuring two, parallel, six-shot magazine tubes. Tubes do not automatically “switch” when one is exhausted. They must be switched manually.

    Global Ordnance’s “AREX Delta L is another G19-like pistol, coming-in at $500.00.

    Caracal pistols, now manufactured in Boise, ID, (after a less-than-happy start several years ago) are now producing yet another, very credible G19-like pistol. Their “Quick-Sight” system (iron sights) puts the rear sight ahead of the ejection port. Very fast, but not as precise as is the case with a longer sight radius.

    FN’s flagship 509 pistol (9mm) has been joined by the “510″ (10mm) and the “545″ (45ACP).

    FN is also making the “Reflex Pistol,” a small pistol along the lines of Springfield Armory’s Hellcat.

    Again, FN makes upward-venting “compensators” available, and again highly not recommended, for reasons stated above.

    Springfield Armory’s “Echelon Pistol” is now their flagship serious handgun, replacing the XD and XD/M series. G17-sized, it features a removable trigger-control group, much like the SIG’s 320. Frames and slides can be mixed and matched. This feature will be attractive to institutional buyers.

    Daniel Defense is getting into the serious pistol business! Their first entry is the “H9.” No polymer! Aluminum frame and steel slide, so it’s on the heavy side. At $1,300.00, its also on the pricy side! The H9 will doubtless joined by a compact version, and maybe others.

    Lipsey Group is enhancing S&W’s 642 into the 642UC for “Ultra Carry” Improved sights. Nice system tuning. At $600.00, when you want a nice snubby in 38Spl or 32 H&R Mag, this is a nice way to go

    Lots more to see.

    More tomorrow!

    /John



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