That’s great, the mint green dial has a lot of hype around (for good reason) so even cooler you ended up with that one. When I picked up my P39 my AD informed me I’m still on the list for a 124060, even though I said I could be taken off. Depending on timing though if I get the call I may just pull the trigger, I’m about 8-9 months in.Originally Posted by Andy T
I agree with the hype. I like how the light plays around the dial. I specifically wanted a more colorful watch. I think I got this one because it's not as popular as a sub.
Factory Sponsored Certified Pre Owned Rolex Watches with a 2 yr warranty...
It will be interesting to see how this plays out i.e. 4 yr old no date sub with 2 yr warranty at 11k v a new one at 8ish k with a 5 yr warranty ...oh wait nothing new on the case.
https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/ro...-owned-program
This plus the recent news that Rolex expects to have its new factory online by 2030 has me even more anti Rolex.
Easy for me to say as I do not own one- The ROI/pricing is a result of manipulation. Folks have been civilly and criminally consequenced in other industries for similar shenanigans.
Say it with me:
I will never pay more than retail for a Rolex from an AD and/or a grey mkt dealer
I will never pay more than retail for a used Rolex from an AD and/or a grey mkt dealer
If I was retiring tomorrow with a 6ish K budget ( OP 41 at retail), I would buy Grand Seiko and not look back.
YMMV Greatly/FWIW
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We don't know how Rolex is going to price them yet (and that program isn't available in the US, for the time being). Rolex could go secondary market price (and it makes back what flippers make, who, when caught by Rolex get barred from any purchase of its product), it could go under retail price (they are used watches after all), or it could go with a discount under secondary market price (more likely). The changes to the secondary market are going to be interesting. AP already has decided that its dealers can charge market price or retail price at will, and what Rolex is doing here is not really different from what Mercedes is doing with its own cars.
Also, this only applies to watches that are at least three years old.
We'll see but I wouldn't be surprised if secondary market prices for Rolexes starts coming down further (as it already has in the last few months). Of course, I could be wrong.
I have bought from a, legitimate, used watch dealer, because the model is discontinued (e.g. my 214270 MK1) and the price was worth it to me (whether it is to anyone else is another story) and I will do so again if it strikes my fancy.
It's easy to blame Rolex for the high prices in the secondary market and unavailability at retail price, However, while one can blame Rolex for the latter (even though it makes over one million watches a year and that still doesn't satisfy demand), Rolex control over the former is near nonexistent (and it has been trying really hard to minimize abuse); one could just about argue that Rolex has been losing an enormous amount of potential business and it's now trying to claw some of it back. I personally don't see any market manipulation by Rolex, as opposed to by flippers and shady ADs. But, as you say, YMMV :-)
In the meanwhile, I'm looking at a JLC Reverso and a Cartier Santos.
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I purchased Rolexes because:
1. Brand recognition
2. Maintains its value
While Grand Seiko are nice watches, I doubt they are as well-known as Rolex. I purchased my first one from Costco (gray market), back when they still carried them.
My second one is from an AD at retail. I am not willing to pay more on a used market and perfectly fine waiting for my turn at the AD.
If Grand Seiko would up it's clasp's, giving on the fly micro adjustment, I think they would absolutely compete with Rolex. They won't compete in the mainstream, where people just want a status symbol. But to people who are actually into watches, the casework, dial's and movements are on par IMO.
Sup, new Sinn buddy
Found a deal on a secondhand fully-tegimented U50. The bracelet is surprisingly comfortable but I've been wearing it on a NATO strap for maximum tacticals.
Sweet! I think I decided that the U2 wears too big for me. I’m hoping WatchBuys comes to DFW or Houston in 2023 so I can check out U1 and U50 firsthand.Sup, new Sinn buddy
Found a deal on a secondhand fully-tegimented U50. The bracelet is surprisingly comfortable but I've been wearing it on a NATO strap for maximum tacticals.
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Is it bad that I’m contrarian enough to buy this if they made it with an ETA/ Sellita movement with a Sapphire crystal? I’d love it!! The detail is amazing 😂
That's hilarious.
Is it bad that I’m contrarian enough to buy this if they made it with an ETA/ Sellita movement with a Sapphire crystal? I’d love it!! The detail is amazing 😂
True story: In 1985 I was stationed in Iwakuni and TAD to Yokosuka. I was at the base exchange and they had a gold and stainless Sub for something like $750. I was a 1Lt but not flush and I thought that would be way too extravagant to put on a charge card. 🤷🏼
Woulda coulda shoulda.
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