60167's Pissin Hot Screamers

[60167]

I've loaded and shot 2k of 124 Xtreme over 4.0 of Titegroup to make 130 PF. I've ordered a fair amount of 147 projectiles... but they haven't arrived yet. So I stopped by Bass Pro today while I was on that side of town to discover that they have 147 Xtremes. I bought a box of those and a brick of Winchester primers, which I have no experience with.

I'm loading 3.1, 3.2, and 3.3 Grains of Titegroup at 1.140 OAL to try out. I don't have any plans on actually shooting these projectiles in any meaningful quantity but perhaps it's smart to work up a load for things I can easily grab off the shelf in a pinch.

[60167]

I've loaded and shot 2k of 124 Xtreme over 4.0 of Titegroup to make 130 PF. I've ordered a fair amount of 147 projectiles... but they haven't arrived yet. So I stopped by Bass Pro today while I was on that side of town to discover that they have 147 Xtremes. I bought a box of those and a brick of Winchester primers, which I have no experience with.

I'm loading 3.1, 3.2, and 3.3 Grains of Titegroup at 1.140 OAL to try out. I don't have any plans on actually shooting these projectiles in any meaningful quantity but perhaps it's smart to work up a load for things I can easily grab off the shelf in a pinch.

Update- I had feeding issues, where the slide was either locked closed on a chambered round, or a double feed from poor extraction.

I set my OAL for 1.145 but since I'm using mixed brass, the variance lead to some OAL being closer to 1.148 on the extreme end. When I was back at the bench, I pulled my factory M&P barrel and found that none of the rounds passed the plunk test because the bullet profile engaged with the rifling sooner compared to a pointier 124 which doesn't engage the rifling at that length. The overall length was short enough for the gun to cycle most of the time, but the extreme length of ~1.148 was just too much.

I did the plunk test (with failures) on a factory M&P barrel, but interestingly all rounds passed the test with an APEX barrel. My conclusion is that a case guage only tells half the story when I'm developing a load.

The more you know.

[60167]

I FINALLY got in an order of coated bullets (it only took 3 weeks to ship) and got everything set up. Like I stated in my first post, I planned on finding a load that works for my needs and cranking it out in volume with little desire to mess with a bunch of different variables.

The details are as follows:

• 147 grain round-nose polymer coated Brass Monkey projectile.
  CCI SPP or White River Energetics SPP
  3.3 Grains of Titegroup
  Loaded to 1.385"
  .375 Crimp

It's coming in at 922 FPS on average, which is a healthy 135 Power Factor. It shoot's 2" out of my MP's and functions just fine in my P365.

I can get a brick of CCI's locally for $80 or a brick of White River primers for .05 and free shipping online if I buy in enough volume. I've been shooting a bunch of locally sourced stuff with the White River primers lately and they've all seated fine and gone off without issue. I'll probably use CCI for big matches and WR for practice.

My biggest complaint is that these dang coated bullets are so freakin slick it's hard for me to grab them out of the tray and place them in the case mouth when reloading. It slows my process a bit and is just another nagging reminder that I need to nut up and get a 650 or something with a bullet feeder. Such is life.

[60167]

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This is foreshadowing.

[NETim]

I FINALLY got in an order of coated bullets (it only took 3 weeks to ship) and got everything set up. Like I stated in my first post, I planned on finding a load that works for my needs and cranking it out in volume with little desire to mess with a bunch of different variables.

The details are as follows:

• 147 grain round-nose polymer coated Brass Monkey projectile.
  CCI SPP or White River Energetics SPP
  3.3 Grains of Titegroup
  Loaded to 1.385"
  .375 Crimp

It's coming in at 922 FPS on average, which is a healthy 135 Power Factor. It shoot's 2" out of my MP's and functions just fine in my P365.

I can get a brick of CCI's locally for $80 or a brick of White River primers for .05 and free shipping online if I buy in enough volume. I've been shooting a bunch of locally sourced stuff with the White River primers lately and they've all seated fine and gone off without issue. I'll probably use CCI for big matches and WR for practice.

My biggest complaint is that these dang coated bullets are so freakin slick it's hard for me to grab them out of the tray and place them in the case mouth when reloading. It slows my process a bit and is just another nagging reminder that I need to nut up and get a 650 or something with a bullet feeder. Such is life.

Yes, you want a bullet feeder. It speeds up the loading process exponentially.

I have been using Servocios Adventuras(sp?) primers with excellent results. Ammoseek will give you the online prices for online retailers. SyA primers have been 100% in my Glocks and Prodigy. Seating them fully is key.

Your OAL sounds long to me. They pass the plunk test?

[revchuck38]

Your OAL sounds long to me. They pass the plunk test?

Yeah, that OAL wouldn't fit in a .38 Super magazine, much less a 9x19 mag. Did you mean 1.1385?

[60167]

Yeah, that OAL wouldn't fit in a .38 Super magazine, much less a 9x19 mag. Did you mean 1.1385?

You are correct.

[60167]

Yes, you want a bullet feeder. It speeds up the loading process exponentially.

I have been using Servocios Adventuras(sp?) primers with excellent results. Ammoseek will give you the online prices for online retailers. SyA primers have been 100% in my Glocks and Prodigy. Seating them fully is key.

Your OAL sounds long to me. They pass the plunk test?

I'm very interested in the SA Primers. I'm glad to hear they work for you.

[60167]

3000 rounds of Summit City 147. This should get me through a few weeks.

[willie]

3000 rounds of Summit City 147. This should get me through a few weeks.

Swingline makes rubber finger tips that might help picking these up.