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    Week 58: The 4567 Drill

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    Week 58: The 4567 Drill
    results may be posted until 11:59pm EDT on Monday 24-December-2012.

    designed by Chris Edwards (Glock Professional, Inc.) and Todd Louis Green
    Range: 7yd
    Target: 6" circle (download pdf here)
    Start position: varies, see below
    Rounds fired: 20

    The 4567 was inspired by Gila Hayes’s “5×4″ drill and the various iterations thereof.

    The drill is run four times, five rounds each, on a six inch circle, at seven yards. A shot timer is used to begin each string of fire. The four strings of fire are:

    1. draw and fire 5 rounds from concealment, two-handed
    2. draw and fire 5 rounds from concealment, strong hand only
    3. from the ready position fire 5 rounds, weak hand only
    4. draw and fire 5 rounds from concealment, two-handed (repeat of string 1)


    For any shot outside of the 6″ circle, add 1 second to your time. Total the times (and penalties) for all four strings to determine your overall score:

    Basic score total time with penalties is 4+5+6+7 = 22 seconds
    Intermediate is 5+6+7 seconds = 18 seconds
    Advanced is 6+7 = 13 seconds

    This drill is also compatible with the Q-PT target using the inner (white outline) center of mass circle.
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    I had been shooting a 1911 9mm for the last couple of weeks but decided to run this drill with my G-17 that I have been shooting for years.

    Gen 3 G-17 Comp-Tac Holster, 5.11 vest.

    3.97, 5.38, 5.18, 3.56 one miss, score: 19.09

    I ran it again with the 9mm Colt 1911, Comp-Tac Holster, 5.11 vest.

    3.83, 4.84, 4.63, 3.59 clean, score: 16.89
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    G19 w/RMR06 in Unity ATOM mount carried AIWB in a Fricke Seraphim from under a long shirt shirt, fleece vest, and Gore-Tex jacket firing Fed AE9FP 147 gr FMJ.

    Ran it twice: 17.27 (2.57(-1)/5.05(-1)/4.82/2.83) and 14.33 (3.03/4.54/3.98/2.78) clean.
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    Challenging conditions -- 33F, blowing 20-30 mph, bare hands, Safariland 5189, G4 Glock 34, Fed AE 147, Otte soft shell

    Test 1

    2.82 -0
    4.32 -0
    3.96 -2
    3.32 -1

    14.42 + 3 = 17.42


    Test 2

    2.86 - 0
    3.97 - 0
    3.70 - 0
    3.04 - 1

    13.57 + 1 = 14.57

    Then, Mrs. GJM shot the test, same conditions this afternoon, Glock 34, Blade-Tec, Aguila ball, Arcteryx winter jacket

    2.81 - 0
    4.26 - 0
    4.01 - 1
    2.96 - 0

    14.04 + 1 = 15.04

    She has been working on her grip, post Vogel, and I was amazed by her splits on the first string (1.95 draw, .22, .21, .20, .23) which was down 0 points. A lot of this is the Vogel grip, BUT modified by SLG to move her back leg further back, with a more upright stance.
    Last edited by GJM; 12-17-2012 at 05:26 PM. Reason: add SLG reference per Mrs. GJM
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    Angry

    Glock 35 using PT target
    5.22 (-1) 6.46(-2) 5.84 (-4 ) 3.31 (-3) Total time w/ penalties 30.83

    Shot on PDF Target
    4.87 6.70 6.44 (-1) 4.75 Total W/ misses 23.76. Still sucks just sucks less.
    Stay Sharp & Stay Safe!
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    Glock 34 comp-tac paddle Carhart coat for cover garment.

    1. 6.58 +1
    2. 10.86
    3. 12.95
    4. 5.56
    Total 36.95

    also ran it with a M&P Pro 5" with a comp-tac paddle & same cover garment.

    1. 5.25 +1
    2. 10.68
    3. 12.74
    4. 5.83
    Total 35.50
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    Good drill. My timer was AWOL so I had to improvise. Indoor turners were set to 4 seconds face time. 6" circle target, non-specific. Glock 26, Glock OEM sport holster, long shirt, fixed sights, 9mm AE 115 FMJ (AE9DP). Regular earth-people guns and gear.

    My support hand only shooting is still the weak link. All strings were well within the set 4 sec face time, so 16 sec minimum. Adding misses...

    16 sec + 5 penalty = 21
    16 sec + 4 penalty = 20
    16 sec + 3 penalty = 19
    16 sec + 5 penalty = 21

    If my adaptation dilutes the drill too much, disregard.
    Last edited by ST911; 12-22-2012 at 03:51 PM.
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    Gen3 G34, Ameriglo Defoor sights, 124gr Blazer cleanfire ammo, concealed in a t-shirt in a Keeper.

    Lost the paper where I wrote down the individual string times. Total score was 13.08, including penalties for two dropped shots, one each on the SHO and WHO strings.
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    HK P30 V3 Heinie Straight Eight Qwiks
    AIWB from under a fleece
    Generic 6" circle

    S1: 2H 2.59c
    S2: SHO 3.92c
    S3: WHO 4.79 +1 penalty and trigger freeze
    S4: 2H 2.48
    Total: 13.78 + 1 = 14.78

    This was fired after roughly 300 rounds downrange. Shortly after finishing this drill, my V3 developed hammer follow. My LGS extended their lifetime warranty to me and it is being taken care of at no charge. More details to follow.
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    Second DA/SA in not that long that has ad that problem -- will be interested in what HK says. Do you start DA or cocked/locked?
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