Cartoon Guns must sell pretty well...

[Chuck Whitlock]

...seen plenty of folks using the Mesa Tactical Urbino or AR stock adapter kits, on here & elsewhere.

...but I still have no use for a pistol gripped stock on my shotgun.

Lots of people buy them even though they're a bad idea because lots of people have no idea what they are actually buying or why. A lot of people think pistol gripped stock setups are "tactical" for precisely the reasons I described above even though that thought is outdated and irrelevant.

@TCinVA,

I put an Urbino stock on my M1S90, not so much for the pistol grip as for the reduced LOP. The SGA is obviously a no-go. What would you recommend for this gun?

I kinda thought that the pistol grip worked well with push-pull. What am I missing? I'd like to get @03RN 's take as well.

[03RN]

@TCinVA,

I put an Urbino stock on my M1S90, not so much for the pistol grip as for the reduced LOP. The SGA is obviously a no-go. What would you recommend for this gun?

I kinda thought that the pistol grip worked well with push-pull. What am I missing? I'd like to get @03RN 's take as well.

Im good with either. Doing drils I don't notice a difference but jumping over stumps and avoiding other hazards has a more negative effect on times. But also run drills with m1903s and AR15s.
Im a big believer in

[SCCY Marshal]

I actually don't hate it. I think it looks pretty useful.

Will I buy one? Probably not.

If I had the scratch, I'd consider one for a 3 Gun loaner. AR safety for the newbie, practice reloads with a few reps of an empty mag, fast reloads on the clock, can paint/tape a spare mag for slugs, the heat shield will keep an AR guy from getting his fingers warm at the end of a stage being used to tubular rifle guards, and it would cause eye rolls among the serious business crowd for being a manual repeater. It would be worth the money for the last bit alone.

But I'm not rich so greenhorns can continue to borrow a 500A or share my 590.

People lose their mind over capacity. It's unfortunate because it's their loser mindset. My shotguns are not 5-8 round guns. They're infinite guns.

I shot 100 rounds through my Benelli today. I never once ran the magazine dry .

Your triple post was on a roll and ended with the best point.

[TCinVA]

@TCinVA,

I put an Urbino stock on my M1S90, not so much for the pistol grip as for the reduced LOP. The SGA is obviously a no-go. What would you recommend for this gun?

I kinda thought that the pistol grip worked well with push-pull. What am I missing? I'd like to get @03RN 's take as well.

I once put a pistol-gripped stock on a Beretta 1201 because it had a shorter LOP.

I don't like pistol grips on shotguns, but too long of a LOP is a worse problem to have in terms of effectively using the gun.

Of the PG stocks out there, the Urbino's rather large and squishy grip seems to help ameliorate some of the downsides of the pistol grip better than other stocks. If I were shooting that a lot, I would do so with my thumb on the right side of the grip instead of behind it in a traditional pistol style grip so as to avoid loading recoil into the basal joint of my thumb. You can still effectively push/pull that way.

[Chuck Whitlock]

Thanks for the feedback, gents.

@TCinVA,

As an alternative to the SGA on 590's and 870's, what are your thoughts and/or experiences with the Hogue short stock?

https://www.hogueinc.com/remington-8...stock-12-l-o-p

I'd like to get my agency to retrofit our 870s, and $89-ish for a stock and overmolded forend is a pretty good deal, especially when you're talking 50+ weapons.

https://www.hogueinc.com/rem-870-ove...orend-12-l-o-p

[TCinVA]

Thanks for the feedback, gents.

@TCinVA,

As an alternative to the SGA on 590's and 870's, what are your thoughts and/or experiences with the Hogue short stock?

https://www.hogueinc.com/remington-8...stock-12-l-o-p

I'd like to get my agency to retrofit our 870s, and $89-ish for a stock and overmolded forend is a pretty good deal, especially when you're talking 50+ weapons.

https://www.hogueinc.com/rem-870-ove...orend-12-l-o-p

The Hogue is a good piece of equipment. A little too short for my preferences but I can work with it just fine.

If I was wearing body armor regularly the LOP on that would be about perfect.

[03RN]

The Hogue is a good piece of equipment. A little too short for my preferences but I can work with it just fine.

If I was wearing body armor regularly the LOP on that would be about perfect.

They used to make a 13" one for a while. It was made for a online accessory store that I forget the name of. I wish I got a few.

[Centerfire]

Sigh,... why does Mossberg keep doing this? I know, I know, they are in business to make money, not necessarily guns, but still. This thing has an MSRP of almost $1,200! Who in their right mind would buy this abomination over an A300? I guess they are selling though. Just, wow... I have an 835 that I actually really like. With just a little more fine tuning and QC, that thing seems like it could be battle-worthy. But I think I would just about rather take a sharp stick to a fight rather than this thing pictured below. It's like all the derp got mashed into one gun.

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That gun has most of the features I see people adding to 1301's.

[TDA]

You can still get an M1 Super 90 on gunbroker for less than the MSRP on that Mossberg. Why wouldn’t you?

More to the point, that’s a basic Mossberg tarted up with strange accessories, why would I be 3 gunning with it?

[Wes Peart]

They used to make a 13" one for a while. It was made for a online accessory store that I forget the name of. I wish I got a few.

The one you want is the Speedfeed manufactured 870 youth stock with a R3 recoil pad. Gives a hair under 13" LOP and is a great stock.

Shot over a hundred 1600fps 12ga slugs in one day with it with zero bruising, many from prone.