Probably depends on local.Originally Posted by Stephanie B
Around here, we call that June-July-August.
Probably depends on local.
Around here, we call that June-July-August.
"It's surprising how often you start wondering just how featureless a desert some people's inner landscapes must be."
-Maple Syrup Actual
In all of the Latin American countries I've been to, they had military on decent sized dirt bikes, often two to a bike. Usually doing what our LEOs do. Made sense, narrow roads, brutal traffic, protests tending to involve burning tires blocking the roads. But with at least one Mini-14 on back, you could get firepower somewhere in a hurry. Made sense to me.
Last time I was in East Jerusalem, I remember seeing Israeli Border troops on horseback, slung ARs. They were on and off roads, then packed dirt, then loose sandy dirt, back onto roads, etc
There are no dangerous weapons; there are only dangerous men. - Robert Heinlein
Locally, high desert, every motor guy I know keeps a gallon of water in the saddlebags, and aims to finish it during the 8-12 hour shift. Motors is kind of a prestige thing, and historically the gateway to SWAT, which was the gateway to Canine.
Both here and at my old agency, right down near the southern border, the bike patrol guys (including me, at both agencies) said "hell with the uniform regs, we are wearing camelbaks." The gold standard was the Gieger Rig, now owned by Aquamira, which uses a blood pressure cuff type bulb to inflate a second layer in the bladder, allowing the mouthpiece, when squeezed, to spray water. Filling up once a shift was expected, with a 3L bladder.
We also regularly went home for lunch, putting our body armor and water bladders in the freezer. The body armor was only good for 10-15 minutes, but it was good.
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Random technical note: Kevlar actually gets stronger in lower temperatures, at least within the range any human can possibly exist. It's not a huge huge difference, but it's there.
The amount it needs to get hotter to get weaker is pretty damn high, again, outside of reasonable expectations. I'm not as familiar with it's impact on wear over time (and I suspect it's much less significant than any armor manufacturer for liability reasons).
Impressive stuff. We'll see if DuPont's new EXO material will live up to the hype they've been putting out.
There are no dangerous weapons; there are only dangerous men. - Robert Heinlein
Knew a guy who worked motors in for LVMPD. He advised he spent ten minutes of every hour on patrol standing in the beer cooler of a convenience store.
- It's not the odds, it's the stakes.
- If you aren't dry practicing every week, you're not serious.....
- "Tache-Psyche Effect - a polite way of saying 'You suck.' " - GG
Once when riding motorcycles down in the Phx area from Flagstaff, it was beastly hot. At a gas station/quick mart we stopped at, there was an ice cooler out front, I said "If thats empty, Im getting in it". I looked, it was empty, and cold, I got in it for a few minutes.
“Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat.”
― Theodore Roosevelt
Definitely a pro tip.
I had one store in my zone that had a great walk in cooler and the manager kept it at the lowest temperature she could. I’d go in on a hot day, go in the cooler, take off the outter carrier, and prop it up where the blower vents would hit it.
I’d stand in there 15-20 minutes and throw the armor back on. Same clerk would supply me free ice for my cooler and let me keep a couple of cases of water in that walk in cooler.
Absolute Godsend of a setup.
God bless you, Leslie. You’re the greatest convenience store manager ever!
I read stuff like that and say to myself 'that's a solid officer that knows what's going on in his area and most likely is one of the go to guys for info throughout the jurisdiction. I think it's an art.
Adding nothing to the conversation since 2015....
Absolute treasure trove of intel at the local convenience store.
Leslie knew everything that went on in the area. Who was breaking into houses, cars, who was dealing, where folks on the lam were hiding, etc.
I need to go see her. It’s been too long.
Know several patrol cops who advocate same...
3rd shift for the last 22 years, so, thankfully, not a first hand source...
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