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  1. #11
    I’ll call customer service. @Jason M, I am glad they know their products.

    I prefer working on my own stuff where possible, and the extractor mechanism looks like it is within my capability level. If not, I can ship it back to HK. This is my daily driver, so to speak. I have a second P30 that I shot about 500 times and use that in the bedside safe.

    @CCT125US, how hard is the TRS to replace? I have heard it is a nightmare, but I have a couple of spares already.

    Thanks, all.

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    TRS is not that bad. Putting the gin in a vise helps, as does having the modified needle-nose pliers designed for the job.
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    @Chewbacca10 that's a hard one to answer. For me, it's about a 2 minute job. But, as mentioned elsewhere, that 2 minute job required a number of 30 minute commutes over the years.

    For instance, just today I received 2 Gray Guns straight triggers for my P2000 and P2000Sk. I foolishly sold my first set off for unknown reasons. I completely gutted and swapped the 2 triggers (including 2 TRS) in under 15 minutes on LEM (the hardest) variants. For me to say it's easy, discounts a lot of time spent learning.
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  4. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by Chewbacca10 View Post
    how hard is the TRS to replace?
    How long did it take you to trigger your P30 15k times? If the answer is longer than 3 years, I would send it to HK and enjoy a reliable firearm.

    (This is similar to my approach of car and motorcycle maintenance. If often necessary and easy or easy to learn, then DIY. If rarely necessary and not very easy, I pay a pro. Concerning DIY firearm maintenance, I'm very cautious because it takes a lot of effort to get a license for every single firearm in my country.)

    If you insist on DIY, then order such a special tool in advance:
    hkparts.net/all-parts/hk-pistols-trigger-return-spring-mounting-plier
    hkparts.net/all-parts/hk-pistol-trigger-return-spring-tool
    Last edited by P30; 09-03-2024 at 06:14 PM.

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    That’s the tool I use, and it makes installing TRS a nonevent.
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    I called customer service while I was on lunch break today. Customer service suggested switching the ammunition to make sure that wasn't the source. I am fairly convinced that isn't the issue as I think probably the last 4k or so rounds have been S&B 124 grain. Once I have eliminated that as a potential cause, customer service suggested removing the extractor and cleaning.

    Quote Originally Posted by P30 View Post
    How long did it take you to trigger your P30 15k times? If the answer is longer than 3 years, I would send it to HK and enjoy a reliable firearm.

    (This is similar to my approach of car and motorcycle maintenance. If often necessary and easy or easy to learn, then DIY. If rarely necessary and not very easy, I pay a pro. Concerning DIY firearm maintenance, I'm very cautious because it takes a lot of effort to get a license for every single firearm in my country.)

    If you insist on DIY, then order such a special tool in advance:
    hkparts.net/all-parts/hk-pistols-trigger-return-spring-mounting-plier
    hkparts.net/all-parts/hk-pistol-trigger-return-spring-tool
    Shipping a firearm the last time that I did it was a minor PITA and not cheap. I'm completely confident in my ability to replace the extractor components. The TRS looks like it might be tricky, but I need to watch a few videos and see from there. I have a step-by-step disassembly guide from another forum that might be of use as well.

    Knipex pliers are top quality. I have probably a dozen of the different patterns. That one, though, I wonder if that was a special run, because the 30 13 140 model looks crucially different. That's worth an email to Knipex U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jason M View Post
    TRS is not that bad. Putting the gin in a vise helps, as does having the modified needle-nose pliers designed for the job.
    Quote Originally Posted by CCT125US View Post
    @Chewbacca10 that's a hard one to answer. For me, it's about a 2 minute job. But, as mentioned elsewhere, that 2 minute job required a number of 30 minute commutes over the years.

    For instance, just today I received 2 Gray Guns straight triggers for my P2000 and P2000Sk. I foolishly sold my first set off for unknown reasons. I completely gutted and swapped the 2 triggers (including 2 TRS) in under 15 minutes on LEM (the hardest) variants. For me to say it's easy, discounts a lot of time spent learning.
    Good to know. Thank you both.

  7. #17
    The extractor is easy and will only take a minute or two to remove. You just need a 3/32 punch. The roll pin in the slide that retains the extractor is the forward most roll pin (closest to the breech face). Tap the pin out from the underside of the slide out the top. Personally, I like to tap the pin just to the top of the extractor slot in the slide. That lets you pull the extractor without fully removing the roll pin. This isn't necessary though, and you can tap the roll pin out entirely if you prefer.

    The extractor plug fits in the center of the extractor spring, so it's simple to reinstall. If you need pics, let me know and I can get them tomorrow.

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  8. #18

    Update

    I removed the extractor, spring, and plunger. I honestly don’t know what to think. The extractor and groove were definitely dirty, but not catastrophic. I did see some signs of wear to the finish of the extractor, but the geometry looked the same as my replacement.i cleaned the whole thing and put back the original parts. If that doesn’t solve the issue, I will replace the plunger and see.

    Also, I need one of those bench block things that look like a hockey puck.
    Last edited by Chewbacca10; 09-17-2024 at 07:15 PM.

  9. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by Chewbacca10 View Post
    I removed the extractor, spring, and plunger. I honestly don’t know what to think. The extractor and groove were definitely dirty, but not catastrophic. I did see some signs of wear to the finish of the extractor, but the geometry looked the same as my replacement.i cleaned the whole thing and put back the original parts. If that doesn’t solve the issue, I will replace the plunger and see.

    Also, I need one of those bench block things that look like a hockey puck.
    Wheeler armorer block on Amazon works well also.

  10. #20

    Update November 3, 2024

    It looks like the weak extraction was indeed caused by dirt and grime getting into the extractor groove. I was only able to fire 50 rounds a couple of weeks ago because I was working more with a new shooter than shooting myself, but I didn't get any brass coming straight back at me, which is good.

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