I give up on the LnL AP, and need advice on what I need for a 750.

[Spartan1980]

Besides the deflection, the prime punch bears against that soft casting and quickly forms a nice divot, further reducing seating depth.

When I called CS, they knew all about it and just said to tape a flat piece of steel or something there.

I should’ve packed the damn thing up & sold it at that point.

That's true but mine, even with the divot, the primer punch extended way up into the primer pocket without a primer. It was plenty long enough and then some.

The main deflection was in the ram itself. With that huge ram and compound links placing the handle so far out from center line, the whole assembly would just twist around when the force from primer insertion happened. It has a lot of leverage to twist being that far out.

It's really a perfect storm and they just cut too many corners in their mfg. tolerances for their design. To Hornady's credit they did try to make it right, but I could see it just wasn't ever going to match Dillon. I was shooting revolver major in USPSA and had to have primers seated very deeply with how much I lightened my mainsprings. It wasn't an option and had zero room for error. Dillon has no issue at all ramming them home.

[Tokarev]

I have loaded quite extensively on both the Hornady LNL and the Dillon 650. I have no experience with the 750.

The two presses are quite similar in that they are five station and rather limited in this regard. Adding bullet feed and powder check dies quickly use up any and all avaliable die locations. I'd hoped the 750 would have included a 6th station and I wish Hornady would look at updating the LNL to 6 or more stations.

Anyway, the primer system on both presses kind of sucks and I rarely use either. This is partly due to the primer system designs but also due to personal preference. For most loading, I prime off press using a hand primer tool. This allows me to visibly inspect each primer for proper orientation before loading it into ammo. It also allows me to run a finger over the primer to verify it is seated fully. Priming off press also allows me another chance to sort any 380 cases, cracked cases, etc before loading.

Being designed to run with a case feeder, the 650 is the better press in terms of speed. If only one caliber is to be loaded and/or the press will be configured to load one cartridge for awhile, the Dillon is the way to go.

If you plan on loading several different cartridges and don't want to spend money on the case feeder, the Hornady is the way to go. Primer system and die and shell plate conversions are much easier. And less expensive without the case feeder parts.

Lastly, the Hornady is quite versatile as a brass processor. The LNL primer swage system works well and is pretty speedy. It is probably the best thing going aside from the professional presses like the 1050/1100 or the Mk7 stuff. I've tried the primer punch swage deal for the 650 but never had very good luck with it. Plus Dillon says using it voids your warranty.

This might be the best use of the LNL if the space is available on the bench. Use it to size and de-prime and then swap it over to swage 223 and 308 brass.

One other thing on the Hornady design. I actually preferred the old swinging arm on the Pro Jector. It allowed a visual verification that the primer was right side up and that the primer system wasn't jammed or empty....

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