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    The Collateral Drill

    Fun stuff. Obviously we're recreating the "yo homie is that my briefcase" scene from the movie. I decided on specific parameters for it, to go in my drill book.

    Range: 1 yd, 2 yd.
    Target: 2 silhouette, IDPA/USPSA type
    Rounds: 5
    Start position: concealed, hands at surrender

    Setup: 1 target facing shooter at 1 yard, 2nd target at 90 degrees to the right, at 2 yards.

    @ START, draw & fire 2 shots from retention at target 1, then 2 COM & 1 to head (Mozambique) at target 2.

    Goal, 3 seconds w/ good hits (defined as -0 or -1/A or C on 1st target, -0/A and head on 2nd.

    I ran it strong-side IWB, G17 irons-only. I did not bother with the initial move of swiping bad guy#1's weapon down.

    Also did not bother with the 6th, "anchor shot", as he's obviously in no hurry at that point, and target is down.

    Appears to be done in roughly 2 seconds in the movie?

    I ran it 3 times, first run cold, hadn't shot pistol in a week:

    2.95, 1st shot 1.46
    2.56, 1st shot 1.32
    2.75, 1st shot 1.32

    All runs were good hits, as described above.

    Was done for fun, and to "liven up" the training regimen, but seems the excercise does spotlight viable skills, such as rapid draw from concealment, retention shooting, pivoting on multiple targets, and of course the classic Mozambique.

    Anyone else want to run it, so we can create a baseline of times?

    ETA: hits from 1st run at 2.95

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    Last edited by ViniVidivici; 08-30-2024 at 04:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ViniVidivici View Post
    Fun stuff. Obviously we're recreating the "yo homie is that my briefcase" scene from the movie. I decided on specific parameters for it, to go in my drill book.

    Range: 1 yd, 2 yd.
    Target: 2 silhouette, IDPA/USPSA type
    Rounds: 5
    Start position: concealed, hands at surrender

    Setup: 1 target facing shooter at 1 yard, 2nd target at 90 degrees to the right, at 2 yards.

    @ START, draw & fire 2 shots from retention at target 1, then 2 COM & 1 to head (Mozambique) at target 2.

    Goal, 3 seconds w/ good hits (defined as -0 or -1/A or C on 1st target, -0/A and head on 2nd.

    I ran it strong-side IWB, G17 irons-only. I did not bother with the initial move of swiping bad guy#1's weapon down.

    Also did not bother with the 6th, "anchor shot", as he's obviously in no hurry at that point, and target is down.

    Appears to be done in roughly 2 seconds in the movie?

    I ran it 3 times, first run cold, hadn't shot pistol in a week:

    2.95, 1st shot 1.46
    2.56, 1st shot 1.32
    2.75, 1st shot 1.32

    All runs were good hits, as described above.

    Was done for fun, and to "liven up" the training regimen, but seems the excercise does spotlight viable skills, such as rapid draw from concealment, retention shooting, pivoting on multiple targets, and of course the classic Mozambique.

    Anyone else want to run it, so we can create a baseline of times?

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    I am sad my range allows drawing and such but I can't out targets at two different angles =(

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    I'm ballpark same, different days different pistols & different calibers over the years. Both front facing however either same distance or 2nd one farther back. Your 2nd run times are very good though.
    Concealed either t-shirt or jacket/shoot me first vest. I believe most my runs were owb like Vincent. Not sure if I've done aiwb.

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    I want to run it AIWB, might be faster, as that's usually how I carry out and about during the week, and I'm generally faster that way for first shot, on avg. .10 seconds faster.

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    May I suggest using same hand placement, parrying gun to side, and sometimes also do a transition back to #1 for headshot. 1st shot, 5th, 6th all recorded. While mostly for fun, monotony breakup, It may actually be a real useful drill.

    .45s also to be authentic, or Hks for extra juice.
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    No .45s or HKs here in the arms room.

    Ran it again twice today, from AIWB, and yes it is faster.

    2.50, 1st shot 1.10
    2.45, 1st shot 1.16

    Interesting thing, on both runs, the splits between the first two shots, and the two COM shots of the Mozambique, were the same, within each run.

    .25 on first run, .23 on 2nd. Just thought it was odd, maybe I've subconsciously developed a "controllable cadence" for multiple shots, whether they're coming from retention one-handed or extended in a normal 2-hand grip.

    Also noteworthy that the hits were better, despite being run cold on first run, just like last time. I think this is because I've been training so much AIWB last few years.

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