I thought it would be good to post some pics & proof that cheaper long guns can still work. This is geared more towards hunting as I do not recommend cheap black guns. I took the Weatherby Vanguard out today. I have a Mark V, but this Vanguard has been my go to deer gun for a while. It is tough as nails and plenty accurate. I slapped a 3-9x40 Leupold Rifleman on it & haven't looked back. This was shot @ 120 yds.