Two or three things might be possible:Originally Posted by runcible
1) He stole a .357 Glock, say a G32, and one mag, then installed the switch;
2) It was a .357 Glock with a conversion barrel and someone reported it was a .357 based off slide markings;
3) the yute hadn't read the Grizzlies thread on P-F.
Adding nothing to the conversation since 2015....
Took a class and a young woman had a 357 Sig Glock. She was a beginner but her male friends sold her on stopping power. She had a very hard time with it but someone lent her a backup 9mm and she did just fine.
Might be just bad reporting.
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Glenn that reminds me of one of my 10ish Paul (CSAT) classes, had 4-6 USSS men in it from the Dallas field office, all VG shooters but damn their .357 Sig Glocks were loud. End of 1st day Dan (resident agent D office) sent 2 back up to Dallas for more ammo, told ‘em to draw 10K more rds. from their armory, Dan was a solid fella/boss that was close to retiring, still have a coin he gave me.
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That’s not how crime guns work.
.357 Glock - cheap surplus PD trade or pawn shop gun someone adds a switch to.
Maybe it get test fired into a highway embankment in the hood once then not fired again till used in a crime.
More than a decade ago, the local Field Office sent me a "problem shooter" who had flunked the qual three times, mandating dedicated retraining. I had access to a range and was between trips, so it was a good fit. Shooter showed up, a very motivated young lady with TINY hands shooting a Glock 27 with our issued brutal recoiling 165gr duty ammo. The FO gave us three days to "fix" her. We did about an hour of classroom and dry fire, and I made some minor tweaks to her stance/grip/etc that shouldn't have caused her to not qualify. Then we went to the live fire range, and, at the end of the first string of fire, I had her ground her pistol, as she had darn near missed the silhouette more than half the time at 5 yards.
Handed her the G26 off my ankle, had her shoot a handful of "warm up" rounds, and voila, she was a decent shooter. First qual attempt with the G26 was in the mid 270s. Spent the rest of the three days shooting the G26 and G19 exclusively, and, by the end of her "retraining" she was a solid 290 shooter with either pistol. It wasn't because I'm a great instructor, either, she had skills and was motivated to perform well.
Why did she have the G27? Because her coworkers convinced her that 9mm was "sub caliber" and the 40 was the Hammer of Thor.
Sometimes it IS the arrow, not the Indian.
Hey buddy,
You may have taken my tongue-in-cheek remark in a manner differently than intended.
While I appreciate that fun/intuitive-to-shoot has nothing to do with it for the opps, I stand by my remark that a .357 Sig chambered Glock with a switch is not going to be a great experience to shoot. Personally, I find even the switched 9mm Glocks pretty abrasive to shoot.
Jules
Runcible Works
Agree - even the 9mm takes work.
We had a 40 Cal Glock with a switch, recovered up a high school student in school here a couple years ago, but I didn’t get to shoot that one.
Not the same, I know:
One of our local Sheriff's just had to have G18, so the agency got one. I generally like to shot anything, but really didn't much care for shooting the G18. I could pretty much shot singles, doubles, triples, and quads on demand with an MP5, no way with the trigger and cyclic rate of the G18. I gave it back after a magazine, just wasn't interested, a useless tool IMO.
I ass-u-me the cyclic rate of the 'switched' Glocks are the same - 1,000+ rpm?
Adding nothing to the conversation since 2015....
I've put a few hundred rounds downrange from a rented G18c, and while fun, it's limited fun.
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https://www.foxnews.com/us/chicago-l...cbo=v2-PWaGDt4
Chicago law enforcement officials ID suspect, announce charges in murder of police officer
Police announced the arrest of Darion McMillian, who is charged in connection with the murder of Officer Enrique Martinez
Re: control ability of full auto Glocks, it appears that in addition to killing the officer this suspect killed his homeboy who was driving the vehicle via “friendly fire”
Authorities in Chicago announced that a suspect has been arrested and released a mugshot of the convicted felon charged in connection to the murder of a Chicago police officer.
During a news conference on Wednesday, Chicago Police Superintendent Larry Snelling said Darion C. McMillian, 23, is facing multiple charges, including one count of first-degree murder of 26-year-old Chicago Police Officer Enrique Martinez.
"This offender is a convicted felon who was on electronic monitoring out of Will County. Needless to say, this individual should not have been on our streets with a fully automatic weapon, a weapon used to kill Officer Martinez, as well as another individual who was in the car with the offender," Snelling said.
Around 8 p.m. Monday, Martinez and his partner responded to a report about a vehicle, occupied by three people, blocking traffic in the East Chatham neighborhood.
Prior to additional officers arriving to assist the stop, Martinez and his partner spoke with the driver and observed McMillian reaching for a bag on the floor of the vehicle, police described.
When instructed to stop, McMillian allegedly pulled out a handgun and fired, fatally wounding Martinez.
Police said that the driver of the vehicle was also struck by gunfire and killed. The identity of the driver has yet to be released.
McMillian then allegedly pushed the driver’s body out of the car, moved to the driver’s seat and attempted to escape. As an officer tried to intervene and pull him out of the vehicle, McMillian reversed the car, dragging the officer, who fired his weapon once into the ground, police said.
While attempting to flee, police said McMillian crashed into a parked car and took off on foot into a nearby apartment, where a woman was inside.
McMillian reportedly found a knife and removed an electronic monitoring device from his ankle.
Police said the woman was not harmed and the officer who was dragged was in fair condition.
McMillian was later caught and arrested. Police said a second person was also detained, but was later released without charges.
Snelling praised the responding officers who apprehended McMillian "amidst a chaotic scene," and said they did it "in honor of Officer Martinez's sacrifice, and to make sure no one else in our community would face the same heartbreak that Officer Martinez's family is going through."
"I want that to resonate with everyone. Knowing the risks. Out in these streets. Officer Martinez and all of our police officers run toward this danger to protect everyone in the city," Snelling said. "We all need to be outraged at the violent offenders who are creating endless cycles of trauma in our communities.
While today's charges won't bring back Officer Enrique Martinez. It's our hope that these charges will bring a sense of justice. Justice for the Family. And all that knew and loved Officer Enrique Martinez," Johnson said.
McMillian had a criminal background, and was indicted by a grand jury in Will County on charges of unlawful possession of cannabis and unlawful possession of cannabis with intent to deliver in January 2023.
Then, last month, a Will County grand jury indicted McMillian on charges of defrauding a drug screening test, where he was then released on electronic monitoring, FOX 32 reported.
The police can't do this all alone. We need the community to step up. We need everybody to start stepping up. We need people to start looking at accountability for those who are committing these acts and repeatedly committing acts," Snelling said.
McMillian’s next court appearance is scheduled for Thursday at the Leighton Criminal Courthouse.
He is charged with two counts of first-degree murder, one being first-degree murder of a police officer, along with residential burglary, unlawful use of a weapon-machine gun, and unlawful use of a weapon in the shooting death of a police officer.
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