Page 2 of 9 FirstFirst 1234 ... LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 81

Thread: Iran's President Missing After Helicopter Crash

  1. #11
    Site Supporter Kanye Wyoming's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2017
    Location
    A little too close to New Jersey
    Quote Originally Posted by Navin Johnson View Post
    And in all seriousness just cause one shit head is gone doesn’t mean an even worse shit head won’t
    take over

    Or worse yet the religious leaders
    Good point. And some of the commentary out there is to the effect that the kiboshing of the Foreign Minister will have more of a short term practical effect, whereas Raisi’s is more symbolic.

    Don’t know enough Iranian inside baseball to judge. One good point someone made was that by clearing the path for Khamenei’s son to succeed him, the Supreme Leadership will come to be viewed as something of a hereditary monarchy. Does that make a difference? Again, don’t know enough Iranian inside baseball to judge.

    I do know enough Iranian expats to know that there will be wild celebrations when, one day, the current regime is no more.

  2. #12
    Member TGS's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Back in northern Virginia
    Quote Originally Posted by Kanye Wyoming View Post
    I’m no expert on aviation or search and rescue or the topography along the Iranian-Azerbaijani border, but by all accounts it crashed (or had a “hard landing”) in a remote, mountainous area and weather conditions are very difficult.

    https://twitter.com/@twitter/status/1792284982607540416
    I know what you're saying makes sense, but....

    *glances at clock to verify it's still 2024*

    ....even with an old Bell 212, likely chosen on purpose for its analog technology, there are instruments and practices utilized in the protection of world leaders that make locating this helicopter a trivial manner outside of a cascading series of monumental failures, unless they happened to fly into a giant lead box that magically sealed itself.

    From my personal experience working with the Iranians, they're quite attentive to their protectees. This isn't some random helicopter that simply failed to land at the time indicated on their filed flight plan, and nobody knows where it went after takeoff.

    Color me skeptical, and I'm the guy here that's almost always shitting on conspiracy theories. Maybe he wasn't purposely shot down, but somebody slow-rolling the rescue effort to ensure he dies of hypothermia first sounds more plausible to me than, "oh, you know, it's like, in the mountains bro. And it's bad weather. And we know radio signals and satellite signals get blown off course by wind, so, yeah, it's hard to find him. And none of the helicopters escorting him noticed where he went down, either. "
    "Are you ready? Okay. Let's roll."- Last words of Todd Beamer

  3. #13
    Site Supporter
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    Erie County, NY
    No expect here, of course, the news videos show American style copters (someone will know the specifics) and the weather looks like you shouldn't fly in it. Of course, I could see the big wigs insisting that they fly.
    Cloud Yeller of the Boomer Age

  4. #14
    I’m really looking forward to moving to Wyoming and laying low there the rest of my life.
    #RESIST

  5. #15
    Site Supporter
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Location
    Central Front Range, CO
    Quote Originally Posted by LittleLebowski View Post
    I’m really looking forward to moving to Wyoming and laying low there the rest of my life.
    @Suvorov and I will come a bit north and we’ll set up a compound…

  6. #16
    I have friends that worked for Bell Helicopter in Iran, doing the training under the Shah. Apparently they are still using many of those same Bell and Bell Augusta helicopters today. One of my friends thinks the helicopter may have been a 214ST, which was developed at the request of the Shah. Flying helicopters in the mountains in bad weather isn't trivial, even for well trained crews in well maintained more modern helicopters.

    On another topic, apparently the Ospreys are limited to flights of no more than 30 minutes from a suitable landing place. We have recently had a bunch of CH-53E helicopters in for training.
    Likes pretty much everything in every caliber.

  7. #17
    President Ebrahim Raisi's helicopter didn't crash itself?
    ''Politics is for the present, but an equation is for eternity.'' ―Albert Einstein

    Full disclosure per the Pistol-Forum CoC: I am the author of Quantitative Ammunition Selection.

  8. #18
    Site Supporter Odin Bravo One's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    In the back of beyond
    Sometimes it is as simple as having someone on board who has yet to check the box for a helo crash…….. Murphy’s Law don’t go all Sharia and shit just cause you ain’t in Ireland.
    You can get much more of what you want with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone.

  9. #19
    Smoke Bomb / Ninja Vanish Chance's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Caption via WSJ:

    In this photo provided by Moj News Agency, rescue teams coordinated in northwestern Iran on Sunday.
    Name:  iran.jpg
Views: 330
Size:  29.4 KB

    Name:  iran_2.jpg
Views: 333
Size:  44.3 KB

    If that's the weather, I believe they're having trouble finding it. They might know it's "in this valley", but rescuers would have to be standing on top of the thing to actually see it.
    "Sapiens dicit: 'Ignoscere divinum est, sed noli pretium plenum pro pizza sero allata solvere.'" - Michelangelo

  10. #20
    Member TGS's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Back in northern Virginia
    Quote Originally Posted by Chance View Post

    If that's the weather, I believe they're having trouble finding it. They might know it's "in this valley", but rescuers would have to be standing on top of the thing to actually see it.
    If only there were devices in 2024 that could pinpoint the location of a radio signal or satellite coordinate down to a few meters, which aren't affected by wind, rain and fog. Maybe one day we could even use them to deliver missiles over hundreds of miles, that'd be pretty cool.

    If only.
    "Are you ready? Okay. Let's roll."- Last words of Todd Beamer

User Tag List

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •