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Thread: 1911 Milling, BUIS & Compact Red Dot Choices

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elwin View Post
    Just curious, why no consideration of the Chambers/Charyn plates?

    The potential problem with a direct mill makes sense. One of the vaunted advantages of direct milling is the optic being tightly hemmed in front and back by slide material. If itís that tight, Iím not surprised to hear that optics of the same footprint may not fit.
    Iíve considered them. There are a couple of limitations to the chambers system:
    1) There is no plate to convert the gun back to standard irons like in the IOS, DPO, and Atlas systems
    2) All of the Chambers plates are BUI forward of the optic and their ACRO cut has no BUI option. I generally prefer a BUI behind the optic and recognize that this is a limitation with most of the IOS plates.

    I suppose that I should mention WCís True Zero plate system. It looks to sit a little higher, but is probably a great option for the EDC X9 and other external extractor guns that cannot get the IOS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norther View Post
    No, my Romeo X Compact wonít fit into the footprint milled for an EPS Carry, but it is so low that the dot height is just about identical with the original sights, which is exactly what I wanted. And itís so close to fitting that if I really wanted it to I am confident that I could remove the 0.010Ē necessary either off the slide or the sight or both to make it happen. I mostly only wanted to because the rear sight on the Romeo is better, but once I realized that Iíd have to change the front to something impossibly short for it to zero I decided against it. Iíll just remove the front sight.
    Thatís unfortunate - I was convinced a Romeo-X Compact wouldn't fit my LTT 92Cís EPS plate, but I looked at it under magnification with good light and found it pressed right in. The curved end makes exact positioning essential.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norther View Post
    No, my Romeo X Compact wonít fit into the footprint milled for an EPS Carry, but it is so low that the dot height is just about identical with the original sights, which is exactly what I wanted. And itís so close to fitting that if I really wanted it to I am confident that I could remove the 0.010Ē necessary either off the slide or the sight or both to make it happen. I mostly only wanted to because the rear sight on the Romeo is better, but once I realized that Iíd have to change the front to something impossibly short for it to zero I decided against it. Iíll just remove the front sight.
    I have a similar setup on two guns with a very low direct milled EPS Carry that requires a very short front sight. I just filed on plain black front sights to get them zeroed with the EPS rear "sight." I wouldn't say it's impossibly low, just vestigial, which is fine for backup irons.

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    I could try that. At least I wouldnít have an empty dovetail. The sight on it is a narrow fiber optic, but Iíd be cutting it off below the fiber so it could work. I think it would be a little shorter than that though. I have a flat topped slide and the bottom of the window is even with the top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sensei View Post
    2) Dawson Precision Optic (DPO) system: https://dscgunworks.com/ This guy can retrofit your 1911/2011 with the DPO found on Stacatto pistols. Dawson Precision is a well known entity. A mid-tier price at $350-450 for the cut plus cerakote the cut area only.
    Interesting. Do you have confirmation the DPO iron sight plate on a Non-Staccato pistol, would still fit? Iíd imagine so but Iíd be interested in seeing just how well it matches up.

    One of the most attractive things about the IOS system is the ability to swap back to irons and still look relatively stock. Itís also a positive about most plate systems from manufacturers that often gets overlooked. I think the ability to return to irons, even if the probability is very low once you embrace MRDS, is very valuable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gmac View Post
    Interesting. Do you have confirmation the DPO iron sight plate on a Non-Staccato pistol, would still fit? Iíd imagine so but Iíd be interested in seeing just how well it matches up.

    One of the most attractive things about the IOS system is the ability to swap back to irons and still look relatively stock. Itís also a positive about most plate systems from manufacturers that often gets overlooked. I think the ability to return to irons, even if the probability is very low once you embrace MRDS, is very valuable.

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    Here is a picture of a DPO plate on a Dan Wesson ECO that has been milled from the gunsmithís website. I donít see a reason why the irons plate wouldnít also fit.
    I like my rifles like my women - short, light, fast, brown, and suppressed.

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