Washington state bans knives on public transportation

[TQP]

I don't use public transportation in the Portland metro area anyway, but this would seal the deal.

Busses and light rail will just be mobile homeless shelters, open-air latrines, and Mad Max thunderdome arenas.

Kind of like the 3rd class cars from Snowpiercer...

Seems appropriate...

[BillSWPA]

That's correct.



Also, I disagree with the Ammoland article that concludes the new law impacts carrying of knives.

You have to look closely at the statute and see what definitions of "weapon" are used in for the section in general and for particular subsections.

Here is the session law... https://lawfilesext.leg.wa.gov/bienn....SL.pdf#page=1



Of course, this state is making stuff so convoluted, it's getting quite easy for a law abiding person to run afoul of something.

Normally Knife Rights is good but I have to agree. The definition of weapon at the end refers to this:

https://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9.41.250

The narrower definitions apply to other sections.

I am not admitted in WA, so consult with someone who is before relying on this.

[ARC04]

Most cities limit blade to 3.5 inches including Seattle. A few are lower than that. Seattle also bans carrying any fixed blade unless it is related to your trade.

[idahojess]

Normally Knife Rights is good but I have to agree. The definition of weapon at the end refers to this:

https://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9.41.250

The narrower definitions apply to other sections.

I am not admitted in WA, so consult with someone who is before relying on this.

Exactly.

[Lex Luthier]

Last time I was in a Cabelas, if I recall correctly, the sign said carrying is OK unless you plan to take the gun out to sell, try holsters, etc. In such cases, it must be unloaded.

This is their rule in MN currently, too. At the gun counter, the trigger locks never come off before sale, no exceptions.

[Joe S]

@Totem Polar or anyone else, has there been any pushback on this from the working class folks who at least sometimes use mass transit and maybe, GASP, even use their knives for their vocation?

[Totem Polar]

@Totem Polar or anyone else, has there been any pushback on this from the working class folks who at least sometimes use mass transit and maybe, GASP, even use their knives for their vocation?

Being a bougie, myself (albeit a modestly paid one) I have no idea. I doubt it would do much good. The quad circle of Gov’ner, AG, and both houses are very resistant to pushback on much of anything.

At this point, I strongly suspect that this law already falls into the same historical state category as the 55mph speed limit and the 90-year ban on marijuana use, so far as compliance.

[Glenn E. Meyer]

Did I say this - I might have. The law is not expected to deter bad people. It is to give the law something to arrest folks for. An analogy was a local San Antonio law banning carry of 'clubs' in your car. Gang members would buy short aluminum bats and have them in their car to bop their opponents. Thus, SAPD, if they pulled you over and found a bat, they could arrest you.

[Wondering Beard]

Being a bougie, myself

Thread drift.

As my boomer self can gather, 'bougie' is the present day slang term for bourgeois. That term was a descriptive for a certain social class level (generally middle class, both lower and upper), it was French for those who lived in cities ('Bourg' being a term describing an urban area that was bigger than a village -another French word- though not a big as a cité, the French word from which we get 'city'). Those people were generally merchants/bankers/artisans etc.. , in other words people who made money from from either "a" trade or from trade itself. They generally were wealthier than your average city dweller or peasant but nowhere near the wealth of a noble. They were generally characterized (i.e. made into a stereotype) by a hard work ethic and a frugal lifestyle as well as morality.

During the middle 1800s, the bourgeois started being the very epitome of all the things wrong with "capitalism". The word remained an invective to this day, even though it represents much of the ideal of those who try for the "American Dream".

How this word got abreviated to bougie, I do not know. However, those who promulgated this variation were/are unaware of that word's French meaning; bougie = candle.

Thus @Totem Polar can rightly call himself a luminary.


:-)

[Clusterfrack]

Did I say this - I might have. The law is not expected to deter bad people. It is to give the law something to arrest folks for. An analogy was a local San Antonio law banning carry of 'clubs' in your car. Gang members would buy short aluminum bats and have them in their car to bop their opponents. Thus, SAPD, if they pulled you over and found a bat, they could arrest you.

That would require law enforcement on public transportation, a mandate to detain, search, and arrest suspects.

Without that, it’s just another law that only restricts law abiding citizens.