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    Quote Originally Posted by BillSWPA View Post
    This really misunderstands the motives of both sides.
    Come live in Washington so you can understand the aimed punishment of anyone right of progressive. This knife thing ain't shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Navin Johnson View Post
    Come live in Washington so you can understand the aimed punishment of anyone right of progressive. This knife thing ain't shit.
    Yep, and, while I myself am very progressive and probably a Marxist (can I pick Groucho?) by P-F standards; these warm and fuzzy, security blanket laws are definitely targeted at furthering division just to create a rally cry.

    There are some good leaders in this state, unfortunately they all fall under the thumb of folks who choose to create a personal brand. Which I suppose is just the political weapon of the times, I think Ferguson and folks just want to be at the front of the parade.

    I had a late great-uncle who was a beloved judge in this town, and was always getting pressured to seek higher office. He used to say that anyone who holds an elected office that doesnt include the White House should refrain from speaking to the media for longer than 10 minutes; their actions should reinforce their brevity. Somewhere that coin got flipped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillSWPA View Post
    True in other circumstances, but I do not see that desire to punish anyone from anyone involved in the issues you mention. As we push for our agenda, be careful about falling into the trap of overly-vilifying the other side without seeing things from their side. The ability to see from their side ultimately helps us persuade the persuadable people of the correctness of our position.
    I put forward that you are a rational and fairly ethical/moral human, and making the mistake of assuming that other people's internal experience matches yours, perhaps reinforced by your approach to your beliefs or even vocation. With all respect, I agree with you. I just don't think most humans even consider it.
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    The Ammoland article is incorrect.

    There is no "knife ban" in libraries, public transit, or zoos.

    Knives are only specifically banned in areas where court proceedings are held, per RCW 9.41.300 Subsection (1)(b).

    Second Substitute Senate Bill 5444 is the law that was enacted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn Dodson View Post
    The Ammoland article is incorrect.

    There is no "knife ban" in libraries, public transit, or zoos.

    Knives are only specifically banned in areas where court proceedings are held, per RCW 9.41.300 Subsection (1)(b).

    Second Substitute Senate Bill 5444 is the law that was enacted.
    Yep. I wish people would try to read the legislation. New additions are underlined.

    It's a dense chunk of legislation, and unfortunately it has gotten longer in the last decade or so, but it can be read and interpreted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Borderland View Post
    Our range has the rule in the bylaws. No loaded weapons or magazines unless you're on the firing line. If you carry that would mean the magazine comes out and unloaded. I'm not sure everyone does that, but they might.
    Out of curiosity, what range is that? I used to live in WA until 2022. Kenmore range (blech!) was pretty strict that way, Cascade range in Maple Valley was relatively better and a LOT better place to shoot.

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    Back to the ban for a sec, the text of the bill that was signed into law is here.

    https://lawfilesext.leg.wa.gov/bienn....PL.pdf#page=1

    Im seeing clearly a section on zoos, aquariums and transit stops. Maybe Im missing something, as IANAL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maximus83 View Post
    Out of curiosity, what range is that? I used to live in WA until 2022. Kenmore range (blech!) was pretty strict that way, Cascade range in Maple Valley was relatively better and a LOT better place to shoot.
    Marysville Rifle Range. Closer to Arlington than Marysville. I've never heard of anyone having a problem with it at my range, but they do check the public non-members sometimes.

    I used to shoot at Kenmore back in the 90's when I lived in Kirkland.
    In the P-F basket of deplorables.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Totem Polar View Post
    Back to the ban for a sec, the text of the bill that was signed into law is here.

    https://lawfilesext.leg.wa.gov/bienn....PL.pdf#page=1

    Im seeing clearly a section on zoos, aquariums and transit stops. Maybe Im missing something, as IANAL.
    Some dude was just stabbed to death on the light rail in downtown Seattle a few days ago.


    https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/bre...F3WGTGSE2KAHY/


    This bill comes just in the nick of time.
    In the P-F basket of deplorables.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Borderland View Post


    This bill comes just in the nick of time.
    Indeed.
    But in the end all of these ideas just manufacture new criminals when the problem isn't a lack of criminals. -JRB

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