Stoeger -- People don't understand red dots

[GJM]

At Gunsite rifle classes and reunions, during Col Cooper's ownership, we routinely shot launched shot clay pigeons with bolt rifles. I was once lucky enough to break two in a row using Finn Aagard's Mauser .30-06 with a 1.75-6 Leupold. Definitely target focusing, but we didn't really dwell on that concept back then, beyond a low power scope was what you wanted.

[dogcaller]

I still resist/resent/refuse the added cost and complexity but I suppose as my eyes get worse and worse maybe the cost & bulk & complexity tradeoff becomes more worthwhile.

Yup, this is where I was too, until last summer. The combination of aging eyes and my first set of progressive lenses is what put me over the hump. I didn’t want to [insert toddler wail: “I donWANNA!] think about the hassle, considerable expense, or aesthetics of adding RDS to a my handguns. Then I realized that a hard front sight focus is no longer possible, and I DO WANNA keep shooting, so I’m down the rabbit hole. It’s a mixed bag, so far, and don’t get me started on freaking plate systems…🙄

[Noah]

Yup, this is where I was too, until last summer. The combination of aging eyes and my first set of progressive lenses is what put me over the hump. I didn’t want to [insert toddler wail: “I donWANNA!] think about the hassle, considerable expense, or aesthetics of adding RDS to a my handguns. Then I realized that a hard front sight focus is no longer possible, and I DO WANNA keep shooting, so I’m down the rabbit hole. It’s a mixed bag, so far, and don’t get me started on freaking plate systems…🙄

Do target focus irons work for you?

[Glenn E. Meyer]

Target focus allowed me to shoot my 1911 decently, as mentioned in another thread. However, I would like the opportunity to actually see the front sight - LOL. Is that a strange desire?

[GJM]

Target focus allowed me to shoot my 1911 decently, as mentioned in another thread. However, I would like the opportunity to actually see the front sight - LOL. Is that a strange desire?

Be careful, that is a slippery slope.

[dogcaller]

Do target focus irons work for you?

I honestly haven’t tried it much. We’ll see how the Rogers Revolver Round-up goes, because I don’t have any RDS equipped revos.

I’ll have to play with target-focused irons— I’ll search up a thread, I’m sure there’s one here…

I can imagine it works for relatively coarse accuracy requirements, but I think about the head-shots I used to make on jackrabbits with my 22/45, at distance. I can’t imagine that sort of thing is possible…

[feudist]

The Pole Dancing analogy really spoke to me for some reason.

[Trajan]

Isn't this what Frank Proctor was teaching years ago with "seeing through the sights"?

Tbh I've always done this. I can see my sights are aligned without staring at the front. Most of my sights are fiber fronts though. My revolvers are either black or orange insert. I haven't had many issues with the technique. I am moving to dots though.

[Jamie]

Thank you @feudist.That video, as the majority of this thread, helps, a lot.

I am NOT googling "Pole Dancing" though I was tempted

I have apparently been BS'ing myself on several points. It's nice to know, even at my age, I can still learn. Thanks all!

[HCM]

Isn't this what Frank Proctor was teaching years ago with "seeing through the sights"?

Tbh I've always done this. I can see my sights are aligned without staring at the front. Most of my sights are fiber fronts though. My revolvers are either black or orange insert. I haven't had many issues with the technique. I am moving to dots though.

Yes and I suspect soft focus irons is what the old Cooper /Gunsite crowd was referring to as “flash sight picture.”